I remember back in the days of beta when the sniper was good. I remember starting off as a sniper, Atiim was actually the one who took me under his wing and taught me the DUST way. I remember the sniper squads back in the golden days of Snipers United. I remember going up against Sleepy Zan, Crusty Clown, and Gem Cutter. I remember when Symbs still used it. I remember my precious scout suit, i remember my trusty NT-511, i remember it all.

I adamantly defended the sniper namesake from a barrage of insults and attacks: "Redliners are the worst" "Snipers are just redline cowards" "Scrum, the lot of them" "Camping Cowards is all a sniper is" "They don't even help the team" I heard it all, and i have done my best to defend my sniper brethren. Indeed, Redlining is a scummy act, but that is not what a true sniper does.

I have seen my brethren renounce it's ways. Symbs refuses to use it, both Zan and Gem are gone, Crusty wishes it back to it's former glory, but he doesn't use it, i doubt my old friend Atiim uses it, he probably sticks to being an awesome matari commando, even I, who adamantly withstood such vehement attacks, even I who adamantly defended the namesake of my brethen, EVEN I WHO HELD THE CLASS TO SUCH LOFTY HEIGHTS, even I refuse to use the sniper.

When need our lofty perch back. We need our class back. No longer nerfed into oblivion, but returned to it's former grace. Despite despising the snipers of today, envious of their convinction, enraged when i actually get sniped, i want it back.

I wish for my brethren to help me come up with feasible calculations for an actual buff, even perhaps Aeon, since he says he has ideas. I know of degrees, but i need help.

In closing, Stay Gold Snipers.

+1

I did it for his, but remember I do not agree to a certain extent.

You say +1 yet do not like. Wut?

I remember back in the days of beta when the sniper was good. I remember starting off as a sniper, Atiim was actually the one who took me under his wing and taught me the DUST way. I remember the sniper squads back in the golden days of Snipers United. I remember going up against Sleepy Zan, Crusty Clown, and Gem Cutter. I remember when Symbs still used it. I remember my precious scout suit, i remember my trusty NT-511, i remember it all.

I adamantly defended the sniper namesake from a barrage of insults and attacks: "Redliners are the worst" "Snipers are just redline cowards" "Scrum, the lot of them" "Camping Cowards is all a sniper is" "They don't even help the team" I heard it all, and i have done my best to defend my sniper brethren. Indeed, Redlining is a scummy act, but that is not what a true sniper does.

I have seen my brethren renounce it's ways. Symbs refuses to use it, both Zan and Gem are gone, Crusty wishes it back to it's former glory, but he doesn't use it, i doubt my old friend Atiim uses it, he probably sticks to being an awesome matari commando, even I, who adamantly withstood such vehement attacks, even I who adamantly defended the namesake of my brethen, EVEN I WHO HELD THE CLASS TO SUCH LOFTY HEIGHTS, even I refuse to use the sniper.

When need our lofty perch back. We need our class back. No longer nerfed into oblivion, but returned to it's former grace. Despite despising the snipers of today, envious of their convinction, enraged when i actually get sniped, i want it back.

I wish for my brethren to help me come up with feasible calculations for an actual buff, even perhaps Aeon, since he says he has ideas. I know of degrees, but i need help.

In closing, Stay Gold Snipers.

The top 2 things that kill me are shotguns and snipers, also every time I break out a thales I seem to get 20+ kills. I don't really feel there's a reason for a buff.

No Vahzz, you weren't summoned to spread your sniper buff propaganda.

My favoured role (yes ROLE) in any game is sniper. I started this game as a sniper, all of 5 months or so ago. I still favour it, but I find it boring and pointless the way it's been nerfed and the redline reduced to the point of ridiculousness. A sniper rifle SHOULD have a range of at least 1km, even 2km, with the right marksman. The idea that ANY of the rifles, including the militia SR, would have a range of less than 500m is just stupid.

I will quite happily go back to sniping when the time comes, and still pull it out on occasion to countersnipe. But I'm not holding my breath for a buff..

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.The reason you get 20+ kills is that it's too easy. If you were forced to snipe at a reasonable distance, say 1.5km, with some sort of believable range-accuracy dropoff it would be nothing of the sort. Any buff for the SR should also include a reworking of the physics and a change to the redline.

Sniping being good right out of the box is what has given it a bad name. Also, if a sniper is more than just the shotting then they need these other abilities that help the team.


First, the sniper should be a combo of the suit (light) bonuses, rifle skill tree and mods. Damage, sway and scope mag should be the combo of suit, mods and rifle skills and not just the weapon bonuses.

Second, the suit or weapons bonuses should give scan abilities with the scope. So, you can hover over enemies and they appear to the team, but as a matter of sp investment.

Third, there should be other scout like abilities as well to assist the team. For instance, how about a built in hack bonus on the suit that promotes close range sniping out of the redline. Or maybe, a boost to myos to hop up on low areas easier for close sniping (again trying to get snipers off the redline).

So, a non-skilled sniper in a non-sniper suit would get 100m scope mag, horrendous sway and nill damage. Also, no assists from scanning et al.


In addition, the maps need more LoS areas off the redline, but at medium distance. With a sniper having to be such a heavy sp investment, it wouldn't be unwarranted to allow a proper sniper some advantage. The sniper spam would be reduced.

Sniping being good right out of the box is what has given it a bad name. Also, if a sniper is more than just the shotting then they need these other abilities that help the team.


First, the sniper should be a combo of the suit (light) bonuses, rifle skill tree and mods. Damage, sway and scope mag should be the combo of suit, mods and rifle skills and not just the weapon bonuses.

Second, the suit or weapons bonuses should give scan abilities with the scope. So, you can hover over enemies and they appear to the team, but as a matter of sp investment.

Third, there should be other scout like abilities as well to assist the team. For instance, how about a built in hack bonus on the suit that promotes close range sniping out of the redline. Or maybe, a boost to myos to hop up on low areas easier for close sniping (again trying to get snipers off the redline).

So, a non-skilled sniper in a non-sniper suit would get 100m scope mag, horrendous sway and nill damage. Also, no assists from scanning et al.


In addition, the maps need more LoS areas off the redline, but at medium distance. With a sniper having to be such a heavy sp investment, it wouldn't be unwarranted to allow a proper sniper some advantage. The sniper spam would be reduced.

I remember back in the days of beta when the sniper was good. I remember starting off as a sniper, Atiim was actually the one who took me under his wing and taught me the DUST way. I remember the sniper squads back in the golden days of Snipers United. I remember going up against Sleepy Zan, Crusty Clown, and Gem Cutter. I remember when Symbs still used it. I remember my precious scout suit, i remember my trusty NT-511, i remember it all.

I adamantly defended the sniper namesake from a barrage of insults and attacks: "Redliners are the worst" "Snipers are just redline cowards" "Scrum, the lot of them" "Camping Cowards is all a sniper is" "They don't even help the team" I heard it all, and i have done my best to defend my sniper brethren. Indeed, Redlining is a scummy act, but that is not what a true sniper does.

I have seen my brethren renounce it's ways. Symbs refuses to use it, both Zan and Gem are gone, Crusty wishes it back to it's former glory, but he doesn't use it, i doubt my old friend Atiim uses it, he probably sticks to being an awesome matari commando, even I, who adamantly withstood such vehement attacks, even I who adamantly defended the namesake of my brethen, EVEN I WHO HELD THE CLASS TO SUCH LOFTY HEIGHTS, even I refuse to use the sniper.

When need our lofty perch back. We need our class back. No longer nerfed into oblivion, but returned to it's former grace. Despite despising the snipers of today, envious of their convinction, enraged when i actually get sniped, i want it back.

I wish for my brethren to help me come up with feasible calculations for an actual buff, even perhaps Aeon, since he says he has ideas. I know of degrees, but i need help.

In closing, Stay Gold Snipers.

no, don't buff the sniper rifle.


COMPLETELY REWORK it.

I cant condone a buff to snipers in any way. They are quite statistically the least effective weapon in dust as far as playing the objective. I don't hate sniper rifles in dust. I hate the way they're used and the way CCP forces them to be used. No weapon is worth a **** if you have to stay crouched and not move to use it. No other game has sniping dynamics like dust and its rather obvious why...it's terrible. Until sniper rifles are actually useful ON THE BATTLEFIELD I think they should be nerfed as much as possible. Make them fancy snowball launchers.

Buff the damage. Buff the headshot multiplier. Nerf the range. Nerf the rof.

Make it ala forgegun for infantry.

Dmg 500. Headshot x350%. Range 300m. Rof 50.

Assault sniper rifle anyone?

Yeah sure, lets go ahead and buff a weapon that can OHKO from 450m.