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VAHZZ
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Posted - 2015.12.13 21:08:00 -
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I remember back in the days of beta when the sniper was good. I remember starting off as a sniper, Atiim was actually the one who took me under his wing and taught me the DUST way. I remember the sniper squads back in the golden days of Snipers United. I remember going up against Sleepy Zan, Crusty Clown, and Gem Cutter. I remember when Symbs still used it. I remember my precious scout suit, i remember my trusty NT-511, i remember it all.
I adamantly defended the sniper namesake from a barrage of insults and attacks: "Redliners are the worst" "Snipers are just redline cowards" "Scrum, the lot of them" "Camping Cowards is all a sniper is" "They don't even help the team" I heard it all, and i have done my best to defend my sniper brethren. Indeed, Redlining is a scummy act, but that is not what a true sniper does.
I have seen my brethren renounce it's ways. Symbs refuses to use it, both Zan and Gem are gone, Crusty wishes it back to it's former glory, but he doesn't use it, i doubt my old friend Atiim uses it, he probably sticks to being an awesome matari commando, even I, who adamantly withstood such vehement attacks, even I who adamantly defended the namesake of my brethen, EVEN I WHO HELD THE CLASS TO SUCH LOFTY HEIGHTS, even I refuse to use the sniper.
When need our lofty perch back. We need our class back. No longer nerfed into oblivion, but returned to it's former grace. Despite despising the snipers of today, envious of their convinction, enraged when i actually get sniped, i want it back.
I wish for my brethren to help me come up with feasible calculations for an actual buff, even perhaps Aeon, since he says he has ideas. I know of degrees, but i need help.
In closing, Stay Gold Snipers. |
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Posted - 2015.12.13 21:54:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:+1 You say +1 yet do not like. Wut? |
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Posted - 2015.12.13 22:33:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:I did it for his, but remember I do not agree to a certain extent. I remember, and i agree it could cause problems, but it is a problem already, it is the worst gun in the game atm. Read the part where i say i want feasible numbers, so that ccp doesnt ccp, i dont want it to overbuff, i want it to be balanced and not overlypowerful. |
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Posted - 2015.12.14 00:04:00 -
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Krixus Flux wrote:No Vahzz, you weren't summoned to spread your sniper buff propaganda. Truth is, you all summond me, SO THE PROPAGANDA LIVES |
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Posted - 2015.12.14 00:08:00 -
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Alena Asakura wrote: My favoured role (yes ROLE) in any game is sniper. I started this game as a sniper, all of 5 months or so ago. I still favour it, but I find it boring and pointless the way it's been nerfed and the redline reduced to the point of ridiculousness. A sniper rifle SHOULD have a range of at least 1km, even 2km, with the right marksman. The idea that ANY of the rifles, including the militia SR, would have a range of less than 500m is just stupid.
I will quite happily go back to sniping when the time comes, and still pull it out on occasion to countersnipe. But I'm not holding my breath for a buff..
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.The reason you get 20+ kills is that it's too easy. If you were forced to snipe at a reasonable distance, say 1.5km, with some sort of believable range-accuracy dropoff it would be nothing of the sort. Any buff for the SR should also include a reworking of the physics and a change to the redline.
You I like, reasonable and proper. And I agree on all points. And tbh, all of DUST needs a reworking. |
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Posted - 2015.12.14 01:04:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:Sniping being good right out of the box is what has given it a bad name. Also, if a sniper is more than just the shotting then they need these other abilities that help the team.
First, the sniper should be a combo of the suit (light) bonuses, rifle skill tree and mods. Damage, sway and scope mag should be the combo of suit, mods and rifle skills and not just the weapon bonuses.
Second, the suit or weapons bonuses should give scan abilities with the scope. So, you can hover over enemies and they appear to the team, but as a matter of sp investment.
Third, there should be other scout like abilities as well to assist the team. For instance, how about a built in hack bonus on the suit that promotes close range sniping out of the redline. Or maybe, a boost to myos to hop up on low areas easier for close sniping (again trying to get snipers off the redline).
So, a non-skilled sniper in a non-sniper suit would get 100m scope mag, horrendous sway and nill damage. Also, no assists from scanning et al.
In addition, the maps need more LoS areas off the redline, but at medium distance. With a sniper having to be such a heavy sp investment, it wouldn't be unwarranted to allow a proper sniper some advantage. The sniper spam would be reduced. *golf clap* indeed.
When I hit 10k likes, rename me Darth Kic Kat and let's play hopscotch.
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Posted - 2015.12.14 05:30:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:no, don't buff the sniper rifle.
COMPLETELY REWORK it.
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Posted - 2015.12.14 20:07:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:So snipers got a damage buff, an actual headshot multiplier, more ammo for the tactical variant... And you want to return snipers to their "former glory"?
Be honest, you want to be able to snipe across the entire map again, don't you? Is that bad? If you can't do that it pretty much defeats the point of the weapon. As long as the visual effects that give us cues as to shot direction work so we can coordinate to counter the sniper, I don't see the issue. She just butthurt, like most sniper haters. If we get rid of the redline it would fix the redline sniper problems, if we expand the match it would fix some problems, if we got our perches back, it would fix problems, if the damn sway wasn't so crazy, it would fix problems. To be honest, i want the sniper reworked, but mostly yes, i would like a range buff.
When I hit 10k likes, rename me Darth Kic Kat and let's play hopscotch.
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Posted - 2015.12.14 23:00:00 -
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Ggg Hjjhk wrote:I snipe regularly, with ADV n damage mods with Profile Damps, in a Logi or Scout. N I think the red line problem can be solved. Take the distance mesurment off so we can come out of the shadows. Because when I frontline n get sniped I know where they are immediately. I use they way my body falls, n the distance to figure it out. If when head shotted there was no range then id set up somewhere nice, and in the thick of things But if I can shoot one person, him call out the range and the squad sees which way his dead body rag doll (best part of sniping is having someone run n u head shot them making the body fly over rails or slam into the ground) then seems like the snipe role isn't as useful. After saying that. A great change would be if behind the red line sniping u can't get head shots n bullets do half damage. If ur out of the redline normal damage for where u hit. Any snipers think that would help things?? Keep the KDR padders from being able to do just that, and if ur redlining most useful u can be is to call to your squad where the enemy is.
Redline Snipers don't actually shoot INSIDE the redline. And you do know that theory of yours only works against inexperienced snipers, because a true sniper does not stay in one spot like an idiot, a true sniper shoots, knows he has been exposed and then goes to a different spot. So that whole, ragdoll distance direction theory of yours is useless against the likes of me, zan, gem, crusty, atiim, maybe even kaizuka, idk if he is stupid or people around him are.
When I hit 10k likes, rename me Darth Kic Kat and let's play hopscotch.
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Posted - 2015.12.14 23:01:00 -
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god clone wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:So snipers got a damage buff, an actual headshot multiplier, more ammo for the tactical variant... And you want to return snipers to their "former glory"?
Be honest, you want to be able to snipe across the entire map again, don't you? No, I want the maps to be larger, the range to be greater and a range-accuracy falloff, so they SR is at least something like what it's supposed to be. Ok so are you the same person having a conversation with yourself? I find it too coincidental that you're both named Alena. Only I can argue with myself!
You tell em me!
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Posted - 2015.12.14 23:18:00 -
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god clone wrote:VAHZZ wrote:god clone wrote:Alena Asakura wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:So snipers got a damage buff, an actual headshot multiplier, more ammo for the tactical variant... And you want to return snipers to their "former glory"?
Be honest, you want to be able to snipe across the entire map again, don't you? No, I want the maps to be larger, the range to be greater and a range-accuracy falloff, so they SR is at least something like what it's supposed to be. Ok so are you the same person having a conversation with yourself? I find it too coincidental that you're both named Alena. Only I can argue with myself! You tell em me! Maybe they're both vahzz alts and you're all arguing with your selves... New Eden is divided into 3 sections.
GJR/VAHZZ Jadek ArkKirkMercAmadi
So the world may never know.
But possibly me, or Cat.
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Posted - 2015.12.16 01:50:00 -
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It is seriously hard to understand you, your english is atrocious.
Long live the king
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Posted - 2015.12.16 18:12:00 -
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Crusty Clown wrote:Ahh yes the good ole days .....yes I do miss it. I say bring back the sniper distance but make the red lines dissappear. Vahzz o7 Widen out the maps, because most of the old good perchs are in the redline now. Crusty o7
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Posted - 2015.12.17 22:28:00 -
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Zan Azikuchi wrote:Yeah.... I really got nothing, SR was never really in a good position in the first place, all it did was trade range for power, but I would have rather kept the range if that was going to be the case....
Counter's: Sniper's, dropship, railgun (tank/installation, you'd be surprised). People didn't want to accept that those were the only counter's to a sniper.
Mind you prior before Calmando, sniper's had no real self defensive power, SMG's after closed beta became trashy leading to poor defensive strength should someone get a dropship to hunt you down, jumping out with a heavy that is, otherwise if it were an Assault Dropship, you were done.
Essentially, the nerf was done so that player's could sit there and hunt down player's with officer gun's which is what the infantry community wanted, to not sit there, change suit's, just to get 1 person, laziness, these same people who once played this game religiously now gone, and for what? Just to ruin the fun for an entire side of the community? To me the range nerf was always in of itself, the work's of the biggest trolls in the world, and they were successful with their work.
So now in the end, what pretty much happened is that all those so called "elite" player's of dust got what they wanted, player's stopped sniping in general, some toned it back a bit, other's quit, but those E-peen stroking egotistical scrub's from all those "professional" corporation's, simply got an inflated K/D score, which is what they got because of conspirators from every other side of the community (be they, the vehicle community or otherwise). Always a way with words, 10/10.
Long live the king
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