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Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2015.11.03 17:19:00 -
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lr is ina perfect place in every way
on every level whatever u do will put it out of balance
even the mlt lr is currently deadly if used properly
it may not be easy to use but it doesnt need to be its an elegant tool and requires elegance to operate that is all
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Posted - 2015.11.03 18:35:00 -
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Posted - 2015.11.03 19:06:00 -
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What about zoom level when ADS, Morte? Would it help too much (or hurt) if increased slightly?
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Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2015.11.03 19:50:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:What about zoom level when ADS, Morte? Would it help too much (or hurt) if increased slightly?
i think it would hurt honestly it doesnt need any more zoom fidelity and more zoom makes it harder to use closer
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Posted - 2015.11.03 20:21:00 -
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Why would we buff the laser rifle?
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Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2015.11.03 22:06:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Why would we buff the laser rifle?
it was brought up ina thread along with buffing scr and changing amar assault bonus i dont like the idea of making my favorite gun easier to use as
when its used with skill its actually ina really solid place
the reason lr isnt used as much isnt because there is anything wrong with the gun its range or even its damage
its just not easy to use it doesnt spray it has 0 tolerance for missing 0 kick and its 100% accurate which means if you cant aim you cant use this gun at all
nothing wrong with it ide like to keep the few skill based guns dust has
most everything in this game is a spray and pray gun very few guns actually require you to aim the ones that do normally also have really strong hipfire
bolt pistol ion pistol sc pistol
the only ones i know of that dont are lr and sr
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Posted - 2015.11.03 23:48:00 -
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It is very unlikely that they will buff it anytime soon, hell after the discussion of a few months ago they said it wasn't too bad. But seeing as how they have already dealt with the weapons they were concerned with... If any buff does happen it will probably be clipsize.
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.11.04 01:35:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Why would we buff the laser rifle? it was brought up ina thread along with buffing scr and changing amar assault bonus i dont like the idea of making my favorite gun easier to use as when its used with skill its actually ina really solid place the reason lr isnt used as much isnt because there is anything wrong with the gun its range or even its damage its just not easy to use it doesnt spray it has 0 tolerance for missing 0 kick and its 100% accurate which means if you cant aim you cant use this gun at all nothing wrong with it ide like to keep the few skill based guns dust has most everything in this game is a spray and pray gun very few guns actually require you to aim the ones that do normally also have really strong hipfire bolt pistol ion pistol sc pistol the only ones i know of that dont are lr and sr
Laser Rifle aiming is everything and the most crucial part of using it. What you said about the Scrambler is true in close range, but at long range it does require skill to use and precision aiming.
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Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2015.11.04 01:51:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Why would we buff the laser rifle? it was brought up ina thread along with buffing scr and changing amar assault bonus i dont like the idea of making my favorite gun easier to use as when its used with skill its actually ina really solid place the reason lr isnt used as much isnt because there is anything wrong with the gun its range or even its damage its just not easy to use it doesnt spray it has 0 tolerance for missing 0 kick and its 100% accurate which means if you cant aim you cant use this gun at all nothing wrong with it ide like to keep the few skill based guns dust has most everything in this game is a spray and pray gun very few guns actually require you to aim the ones that do normally also have really strong hipfire bolt pistol ion pistol sc pistol the only ones i know of that dont are lr and sr Laser Rifle aiming is everything and the most crucial part of using it. What you said about the Scrambler is true in close range, but at long range it does require skill to use and precision aiming.
which is exactly why ive been saying it needed a cqc nerf from day 1...
the gun was so strong in cqc that people who used it rarey had the ability to use it at range even now most scr users suck there are those though that operate with it just fine..
the ones who know how to aim
i agree in mid -long range scr takes skill..but then so does the tac ar and the lr..long range weapons are all skill based weapons the most spray and pray one is the rr and even that takes some skill
unfortunately dust caters towards scrubs..most combat is cqc and most all cqc weapons take very little aiming
which is why i prefer long range ..i prefer a challenge is why i roll with mlt lr like i do
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Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2015.11.04 01:53:00 -
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Forever ETC wrote:It is very unlikely that they will buff it anytime soon, hell after the discussion of a few months ago they said it wasn't too bad. But seeing as how they have already dealt with the weapons they were concerned with... If any buff does happen it will probably be clipsize.
clipsize is fine i dont mind not having to reload as often..but that will double my kill streaks,,,ide like to see how that one plays out
it is an area denial weapon after all...larger clip = more firing time..(i wont have to pause to reload essentially just wait the 2 seconds for it to cool down) more fire time more denial
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Posted - 2015.11.04 02:42:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Forever ETC wrote:It is very unlikely that they will buff it anytime soon, hell after the discussion of a few months ago they said it wasn't too bad. But seeing as how they have already dealt with the weapons they were concerned with... If any buff does happen it will probably be clipsize. clipsize is fine i dont mind not having to reload as often..but that will double my kill streaks,,,ide like to see how that one plays out it is an area denial weapon after all...larger clip = more firing time..(i wont have to pause to reload essentially just wait the 2 seconds for it to cool down) more fire time more denial
Again, clipsize buff has already been decided upon months ago, if anything changes with this weapon that will be one of the things.
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Posted - 2015.11.04 11:02:00 -
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Every race apart form Amarr has a light AV weapon...
Don't hesitate, make the LR AV.
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Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2015.11.04 12:34:00 -
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:Every race apart form Amarr has a light AV weapon...
Don't hesitate, make the LR AV.
itll be the stupidest thing in dust...ooo a tiny beam that hurts vehicles oooo...pfft
scrambler lance way better
i hope they dont do something like add an av variant of the lr what a waste of time
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Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2015.11.04 12:37:00 -
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Forever ETC wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Forever ETC wrote:It is very unlikely that they will buff it anytime soon, hell after the discussion of a few months ago they said it wasn't too bad. But seeing as how they have already dealt with the weapons they were concerned with... If any buff does happen it will probably be clipsize. clipsize is fine i dont mind not having to reload as often..but that will double my kill streaks,,,ide like to see how that one plays out it is an area denial weapon after all...larger clip = more firing time..(i wont have to pause to reload essentially just wait the 2 seconds for it to cool down) more fire time more denial Again, clipsize buff has already been decided upon months ago, if anything changes with this weapon that will be one of the things.
really i dont see where ccp said they are needlessly buffing one of the most dangerous guns in dust
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.11.04 14:40:00 -
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:Every race apart form Amarr has a light AV weapon...
Don't hesitate, make the LR AV.
I already got the stats in a spreadsheet on my Amarr Commando and Assault balancing thread.
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Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2015.11.04 14:56:00 -
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:Every race apart form Amarr has a light AV weapon...
Don't hesitate, make the LR AV.
dont make the lr av ..make an av variant ..they had best not change the current lrs role ..unfortunately that'll kill dust for me actually go ahead ccp im addicted to the lr not dust go ahead i shouldnt be playing this piece of crap anyways if it wasnt for my problem with shiny things :/
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Posted - 2015.11.04 15:05:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Forever ETC wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Forever ETC wrote:It is very unlikely that they will buff it anytime soon, hell after the discussion of a few months ago they said it wasn't too bad. But seeing as how they have already dealt with the weapons they were concerned with... If any buff does happen it will probably be clipsize. clipsize is fine i dont mind not having to reload as often..but that will double my kill streaks,,,ide like to see how that one plays out it is an area denial weapon after all...larger clip = more firing time..(i wont have to pause to reload essentially just wait the 2 seconds for it to cool down) more fire time more denial Again, clipsize buff has already been decided upon months ago, if anything changes with this weapon that will be one of the things. really i dont see where ccp said they are needlessly buffing one of the most dangerous guns in dust
It was back a few months ago, it was the first CPM Feedback thread. As for the AV LR, that would be our Breach Variant as Blaz has already said...
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Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2015.11.04 15:07:00 -
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Forever ETC wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Forever ETC wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Forever ETC wrote:It is very unlikely that they will buff it anytime soon, hell after the discussion of a few months ago they said it wasn't too bad. But seeing as how they have already dealt with the weapons they were concerned with... If any buff does happen it will probably be clipsize. clipsize is fine i dont mind not having to reload as often..but that will double my kill streaks,,,ide like to see how that one plays out it is an area denial weapon after all...larger clip = more firing time..(i wont have to pause to reload essentially just wait the 2 seconds for it to cool down) more fire time more denial Again, clipsize buff has already been decided upon months ago, if anything changes with this weapon that will be one of the things. really i dont see where ccp said they are needlessly buffing one of the most dangerous guns in dust It was back a few months ago, it was the first CPM Feedback thread. As for the AV LR, that would be our Breach Variant as Blaz has already said...
ive been gone for months
i just got back when a friend pointed me to your thread ...i did a few matches before i responded just to make sure lr didnt suddenly become up
ok im cool with new variants i thought the premise was changing the current one
i still think there should be a scrambler lance av variant for amar heavy weapons
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XxBlazikenxX
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Posted - 2015.11.04 15:20:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:Every race apart form Amarr has a light AV weapon...
Don't hesitate, make the LR AV. dont make the lr av ..make an av variant ..they had best not change the current lrs role ..unfortunately that'll kill dust for me actually go ahead ccp im addicted to the lr not dust go ahead i shouldnt be playing this piece of crap anyways if it wasnt for my problem with shiny things :/
I already have the stats for a new varient of a laser rifle that will require no new assets. I call it the "Breach Laser Rifle"
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Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2015.11.04 16:32:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:Every race apart form Amarr has a light AV weapon...
Don't hesitate, make the LR AV. dont make the lr av ..make an av variant ..they had best not change the current lrs role ..unfortunately that'll kill dust for me actually go ahead ccp im addicted to the lr not dust go ahead i shouldnt be playing this piece of crap anyways if it wasnt for my problem with shiny things :/ I already have the stats for a new varient of a laser rifle that will require no new assets. I call it the "Breach Laser Rifle"
link ?
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just dont buff lr ..this is why
http://imgur.com/J3GGbMX
i will get board
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Posted - 2015.11.04 17:20:00 -
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Have to agree with the OP here! Laser Rifle is one of the few guns that is actually in a good place for its role on the field, and not just being buffed/nerfed because of usage stats.
I was soooo glad when the galass AR RoF bonus didn't effect the TacAR and burst AR! Those weapons take skill (or modded controller for those with no skill), and would've easily become fotm like day 1.
Currently the LR is as it should be. Dangerous as all hell at range, but in close you need a beast sidearm!
I could see the clipsize buff going through without a hitch, but anything else would seem sketchy. A better zoom would make it deadly beyond reason!
Glad there are still guys trying to have the weapons in the game be balanced, and not just trying to get their personal weapons be buffed for no reason. +1
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Posted - 2015.11.04 17:22:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:
I was soooo glad when the galass AR RoF bonus didn't effect the TacAR and burst AR! Those weapons take skill (or modded controller for those with no skill), and would've easily become fotm like day 1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsJMFsyHgI0
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Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2015.11.04 17:29:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:
I was soooo glad when the galass AR RoF bonus didn't effect the TacAR and burst AR! Those weapons take skill (or modded controller for those with no skill), and would've easily become fotm like day 1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsJMFsyHgI0
it doesnt really make the tac any better though if anything its worse ona gal assault it increases the kick .....
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Posted - 2015.11.04 17:39:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:Every race apart form Amarr has a light AV weapon...
Don't hesitate, make the LR AV. dont make the lr av ..make an av variant ..they had best not change the current lrs role ..unfortunately that'll kill dust for me actually go ahead ccp im addicted to the lr not dust go ahead i shouldnt be playing this piece of crap anyways if it wasnt for my problem with shiny things :/ I already have the stats for a new varient of a laser rifle that will require no new assets. I call it the "Breach Laser Rifle" link ? \ just dont buff lr ..this is why http://imgur.com/J3GGbMXi will get board
For some reason it won't let me link things, just look in GD and look in the thread "Feedback: Amarr Commando and Assault balancing"
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Posted - 2015.11.04 17:57:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:
I was soooo glad when the galass AR RoF bonus didn't effect the TacAR and burst AR! Those weapons take skill (or modded controller for those with no skill), and would've easily become fotm like day 1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsJMFsyHgI0 it doesnt really make the tac any better though if anything its worse ona gal assault it increases the kick .....
This is what I meant lol! In the hands of a skilled operator the tac and burst can be deadly with the RoF, but you lose more in accuracy, which is the highlight of the weapons, than you gain in RoF.
The RoF bonus shows its colors mainly on the breach and assault plasma rifles more than ever.
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:01:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:
I was soooo glad when the galass AR RoF bonus didn't effect the TacAR and burst AR! Those weapons take skill (or modded controller for those with no skill), and would've easily become fotm like day 1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsJMFsyHgI0 it doesnt really make the tac any better though if anything its worse ona gal assault it increases the kick ..... This is what I meant lol! In the hands of a skilled operator the tac and burst can be deadly with the RoF, but you lose more in accuracy, which is the highlight of the weapons, than you gain in RoF. The RoF bonus shows its colors mainly on the breach and assault plasma rifles more than ever.
yeah aiming is important to people who dont spray and pray ide use a tac ar on a galmando but never a gal assault...i keep missing headshots because that damn kick
the buff to gal assault made it dominant in cqc...with its rifles but it weakened its range ability i think but who cares 95% of dust players cant aim and spray and pray
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Mortedeamor wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:
I was soooo glad when the galass AR RoF bonus didn't effect the TacAR and burst AR! Those weapons take skill (or modded controller for those with no skill), and would've easily become fotm like day 1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsJMFsyHgI0 it doesnt really make the tac any better though if anything its worse ona gal assault it increases the kick ..... This is what I meant lol! In the hands of a skilled operator the tac and burst can be deadly with the RoF, but you lose more in accuracy, which is the highlight of the weapons, than you gain in RoF. The RoF bonus shows its colors mainly on the breach and assault plasma rifles more than ever. yeah aiming is important to people who dont spray and pray ide use a tac ar on a galmando but never a gal assault...i keep missing headshots because that damn kick the buff to gal assault made it dominant in cqc...with its rifles but it weakened its range ability i think but who cares 95% of dust players cant aim and spray and pray
Most use ARR or aiming modification that removes all recoil. Some even use aiming modification on spray and prey weapons lol!
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Posted - 2015.11.04 18:45:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:Every race apart form Amarr has a light AV weapon...
Don't hesitate, make the LR AV. itll be the stupidest thing in dust...ooo a tiny beam that hurts vehicles oooo...pfft scrambler lance way better i hope they dont do something like add an av variant of the lr what a waste of time
Dip the forge in molten gold, increase the size of the beam, give it the old laser rifle sound and make it so its effective on vehicles and less so on infantry. Amarr AV! 
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Posted - 2015.11.05 20:25:00 -
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We weren't looking at buffing it so much as altering it to work on the other amarr suits.
Until they work efficiently on the commandos, scouts and logis they aren't just fine.
But we're looking at zero-sum alterations that don't change the overall performance of the weapon.
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Posted - 2015.11.05 20:33:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:We weren't looking at buffing it so much as altering it to work on the other amarr suits.
Until they work efficiently on the commandos, scouts and logis they aren't just fine.
But we're looking at zero-sum alterations that don't change the overall performance of the weapon.
Oh good just like the ScR was altered to work on other suits.
How about just stay away from it completely.
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