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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.25 01:49:00 -
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Shadowed Cola wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=219489&find=unread
Here's your port, and why it's not coming, lol. We use the term "port" very loosely. Some call it a port, some call it Dust (x86), but either way we are talking about a New Eden FPS on a current gen platform (PC/PS4). And remember, as per my initial tweet: "The silence surrounding #Dust514 's future needs to stop" Meaning, we want CCP to talk to us about the future of Dust. Whatever the future might be. Perhaps they are doing EXACTLY what you describe in your post. Then they need to open a dialogue with us about it. as stated further down in that thread, they can't. Dust is making money after year of it not, they don't want this to stop, and news of Legion will likely do that. So until the game is coming out the doors that very moment, CCP will keep quiet to milk Dust. They fear community backlash, and they probably can't figure a reason to keep people playing Dust after it's announcement since Funds earned from Dust stay in Dust, so helping here doesn't help else-where. That's not the way a company works, man. Earnings from all their IPs go into the same bank at the end of the day.
As well, the fact that all progress made on PS3 would just get you further ahead for PS4 would be plenty incentive to keep playing and buying items, since they would all carry over.
Amidst the blue skies
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.10.25 01:52:00 -
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The pessimistic tin foil is even more hilarious than the generic tin foil.
Negative Introspection - Aeon's CPM Blog
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.25 01:58:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=219489&find=unread
Here's your port, and why it's not coming, lol. We use the term "port" very loosely. Some call it a port, some call it Dust (x86), but either way we are talking about a New Eden FPS on a current gen platform (PC/PS4). And remember, as per my initial tweet: "The silence surrounding #Dust514 's future needs to stop" Meaning, we want CCP to talk to us about the future of Dust. Whatever the future might be. Perhaps they are doing EXACTLY what you describe in your post. Then they need to open a dialogue with us about it. as stated further down in that thread, they can't. Dust is making money after year of it not, they don't want this to stop, and news of Legion will likely do that. So until the game is coming out the doors that very moment, CCP will keep quiet to milk Dust. They fear community backlash, and they probably can't figure a reason to keep people playing Dust after it's announcement since Funds earned from Dust stay in Dust, so helping here doesn't help else-where. That's not the way a company works, man. Earnings from all their IPs go into the same bank at the end of the day. As well, the fact that all progress made on PS3 would just get you further ahead for PS4 would be plenty incentive to keep playing and buying items, since they would all carry over. Can you really make this claim? I don't know how CCP handles finances or how they handle budgeting, how do you know? |
Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.25 02:00:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:The pessimistic tin foil is even more hilarious than the generic tin foil. Where's the pessimism? The statement that CCP has a track record, so be careful?
You sure you just don't suck at reading like you suck in game?
How about explain to everyone how a game that close to finish in 2014 still has no information. |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.10.25 02:06:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:The pessimistic tin foil is even more hilarious than the generic tin foil. CCP could clear things up for us if they wanted to. Until they feel inclined to do so all we can do is speculate. Sometimes that speculation is negative.
It wasn't that long ago you were pretty upset with CCP's silence, was it? Now you have seen behind the NDA and know what's going on. We STILL don't. We're coming up on two years now. Can you blame us?
"I get to fist tanks in butt" - Jadek Menaheim
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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil. Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.25 02:08:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:The pessimistic tin foil is even more hilarious than the generic tin foil. CCP could clear things up for us if they wanted to. Until they feel inclined to do so all we can do is speculate. Sometimes that speculation is negative. It wasn't that long ago you were pretty upset with CCP's silence, was it? Now you have seen behind the NDA and know what's going on. We STILL don't. We're coming up on two years now. Can you blame us? What if?
The NDA was not being enforced by CCP but by its shareholders?
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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.25 02:10:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:The pessimistic tin foil is even more hilarious than the generic tin foil. CCP could clear things up for us if they wanted to. Until they feel inclined to do so all we can do is speculate. Sometimes that speculation is negative. It wasn't that long ago you were pretty upset with CCP's silence, was it? Now you have seen behind the NDA and know what's going on. We STILL don't. We're coming up on two years now. Can you blame us? What if? The NDA was not being enforced by CCP but by its shareholders? They don't have any anymore. They paid back the bonds they took out before, which is why they don't disclose financial information the way they used to anymore.
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TIGER SHARK1501
Savage Bullet RUST415
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Posted - 2015.10.25 02:10:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Cat Merc wrote:CallMeNoName wrote:>came into this thread, seeing the CPM tag, had high hopes >turns out they are completely dodging the topic and talking about stupid crud
You elected these people.
But hey, Duke-kun still holds a place in my heart <3 They're pestering CCP about it all the time, but that's all that they can do. They don't have any real power, and aren't CCP's messengers. Don't point your finger at them. Oh yeah, no real power, lemme tell you. We totally didn't make shields at least halfway viable after how many months/years of stagnation? Anyway, I made a thing. Power as in being able to force CCP to do anything. You can attempt to convince, bringing logic and knowledge to the argument, but the final decision rests with CCP.
They would sell Aurum to me like this.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.10.25 02:12:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:What if? The NDA was not being enforced by CCP but by its shareholders? I assume you mean the silence is being enforced indirectly by CCP's shareholders being nervous about porting the game. Counter-argument: CCP is privately owned.
"I get to fist tanks in butt" - Jadek Menaheim
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.25 02:15:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:The pessimistic tin foil is even more hilarious than the generic tin foil. CCP could clear things up for us if they wanted to. Until they feel inclined to do so all we can do is speculate. Sometimes that speculation is negative. It wasn't that long ago you were pretty upset with CCP's silence, was it? Now you have seen behind the NDA and know what's going on. We STILL don't. We're coming up on two years now. Can you blame us? He should be far more understanding. He quit Dust over CCP's lack of communication TWICE.
Or was it three times?
idk, I stopped counting, Aeon used to be one of the loudest, WAKE THE **** UP CCP, voices on the forums, but like you said, now that he has NDA - he changed. |
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.10.25 02:20:00 -
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Shadowed Cola wrote:Aeon used to be one of the loudest, WAKE THE **** UP CCP, voices on the forums, but like you said, now that he has NDA - he changed. That says a lot by itself.
I consider Aeon to be the canary in the coalmine. If CCP didn't have ANY plans to port then he would have gone rotten bananas apeshit crazy and made Judge look like a CPM poster child. Since Aeon did not I can assume CCP is going to do something with Dust on PC and/or PS4.
That still doesn't fix this problem CCP seems to have the hardest time understanding: TALK TO US.
"I get to fist tanks in butt" - Jadek Menaheim
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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.25 02:21:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:Aeon used to be one of the loudest, WAKE THE **** UP CCP, voices on the forums, but like you said, now that he has NDA - he changed. That says a lot by itself. I consider Aeon to be the canary in the coalmine. If CCP didn't have ANY plans to port then he would have gone rotten bananas apeshit crazy and made Judge look like a CPM poster child. Since Aeon did not I can assume CCP is going to do something with Dust on PC and/or PS4. That still doesn't fix this problem CCP seems to have the hardest time understanding: TALK TO US. It does get VERY frustrating that they either blab on nonstop or go completely mute.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.10.25 02:26:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:It does get VERY frustrating that they either blab on nonstop or go completely mute. I was just telling someone the other day that CCP is the ultimate extreme communicator.
Either they don't tell you anything at all and make their playerbase angry from lack of news... Or they say a whole bunch of **** in the wrong way and generally awkward make everything worse...
CCP, fellas, gentlemen,
Lean in close and take a listen. There is a middle ground between those two polarities. You can talk to your customers in a way that satisfies them AND leaves you with wiggle room in case disaster happens. Practice this and get back to us, please.
"I get to fist tanks in butt" - Jadek Menaheim
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Amendus Decimus
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.10.25 03:03:00 -
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To bad we cant go eve style attacking a facility :p |
Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.25 03:10:00 -
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Anyone else still remember all the threads about Skyfire Cannons, meant to kill EvE ships from the surface, the Lift meant to connect to EvE stations so we can share a drink with them, or boarding EvE ships?
Good times, having dreams. |
Xvos Reigns
PIanet Express Damage LLC
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Posted - 2015.10.25 07:48:00 -
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Already have my ps4. Waiting for something worth it to actually play the damned thing.
At this point it's nothing more than an expensive Roku...I only use the thing for Netflix.
CCP please #PortDust514
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benandjerrys
Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden
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Posted - 2015.10.25 14:07:00 -
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Maths: CCP - NDA = my $$$
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Mobius Wyvern
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.10.25 15:27:00 -
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benandjerrys wrote:Maths: CCP - NDA = my $$$ Hey, stop that.
Some people here are Americans. They don't teach us arithmetic until college.
Amidst the blue skies
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benandjerrys
Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden
920
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Posted - 2015.10.25 16:16:00 -
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Maths gets all complicated when letters are added you are right. I'll stop.
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.10.25 17:00:00 -
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benandjerrys wrote:Maths: CCP - NDA = my $$$ So uh Does that mean that CCP + NDA > CCP - NDA?
Ripley Riley:
> Post Hotfix Foxour Gallente Assault:
> DakkadakkadakkadakkaFREEDOMdakkadakka
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Chosokabe Ite
Shields Of The State
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Posted - 2015.10.25 21:00:00 -
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Been thinking.
Even if this thread reached 50 pages, I doubt it'll coax a response. The Dust forums are too insignificant. If you want CCP's eyes and ears then you need to make a fuss in EVE, Jita in particular.
That or maybe folks currently at EVE Vegas can make a ruckus. But that might get them kicked out.
Jita should be good enough. |
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GM Archduke
Game Masters C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.10.25 21:09:00 -
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The thing is that we're well aware of this thread, and the movement in general. That doesn't mean we can comment on any possible future plans though. We'll make announcements if and when we have something to announce regarding this.
GM Archduke
CCP Customer Support | EVE Online | DUST 514
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Cat Merc
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.10.25 21:31:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:The thing is that we're well aware of this thread, and the movement in general. That doesn't mean we can comment on any possible future plans though. We'll make announcements if and when we have something to announce regarding this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJscrxxl_Bg
Ripley Riley:
> Post Hotfix Foxour Gallente Assault:
> DakkadakkadakkadakkaFREEDOMdakkadakka
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.10.25 21:52:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:The thing is that we're well aware of this thread, and the movement in general. That doesn't mean we can comment on any possible future plans though. We'll make announcements if and when we have something to announce regarding this. You are good man for talking to us, Archduke. Thanks for that much.
If you ever get the opportunity to speak to the higher ups please pass along our incredible frustration with their silence.
"I get to fist tanks in butt" - Jadek Menaheim
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.10.25 22:08:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:GM Archduke wrote:The thing is that we're well aware of this thread, and the movement in general. That doesn't mean we can comment on any possible future plans though. We'll make announcements if and when we have something to announce regarding this. You are good man for talking to us, Archduke. Thanks for that much. If you ever get the opportunity to speak to the higher ups please pass along our incredible frustration with their silence.
They are -well- aware. Trust me. CPM and the community managers have made that abundantly clear.
Negative Introspection - Aeon's CPM Blog
Skype: nomistrav
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.25 22:13:00 -
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He has a point.
You guys remember Uprising's Heavy Thread started by Lance 1ballArmstrong?
100+ pages, Rattati first was introduced to a lot of us through that thread, because he came in and said, "Wazzup, I hear yo asses be getting spanked, how can I help?"
Then he'd theory craft with us, but that was it. He did much what Archduke is doing here, mostly posting just to pacify rage then bring solutions.
Which, I'm honestly fine with, but someone has to troll CCP since the rest of you are cowards.
Arch 1v1 me bro. |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.10.25 22:32:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:They are -well- aware. Trust me. CPM and the community managers have made that abundantly clear. If they are aware then why do they continue to ignore us? I'm not arguing with you, just genuinely curious. In the businesses where I work if a customer requests an update you give them one. Sometimes the update is 'We're still working on this, but we hear you and will have a something to talk about in X days' And then we VASTLY over-estimate that X days to give us plenty of wiggle room.
"I get to fist tanks in butt" - Jadek Menaheim
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.10.25 22:34:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:They are -well- aware. Trust me. CPM and the community managers have made that abundantly clear. If they are aware then why do they continue to ignore us? I'm not arguing with you, just genuinely curious. In the businesses where I work if a customer requests an update you give them one. Sometimes the update is 'We're still working on this, but we hear you and will have a something to talk about in X days' And then we VASTLY over-estimate that X days to give us plenty of wiggle room.
As continually stated by CCP and others, they're not going to say anything unless it's a 100% sure-fire thing. 1.3 is still in the works unless something crazy happens, so, stay tuned.
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Skype: nomistrav
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.10.25 22:35:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:As continually stated by CCP and others, they're not going to say anything unless it's a 100% sure-fire thing. 1.3 is still in the works unless something crazy happens, so, stay tuned. ... yes but... no one gives a **** about Warlords 1.3 Plenty of people care about a port though.
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benandjerrys
Vader's-Fist The Empire of New Eden
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Posted - 2015.10.25 22:44:00 -
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GM Archduke wrote:if and when
Not trying to misquote you but did you mean "if or when"?
Cause THAT ^ would answer all my questions. Other than what we are already doing... What will we as the community have to do to support a port?
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