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Cline MKP
Moose Knuckle Pros
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Posted - 2015.09.15 17:54:00 -
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For the love of all things good and holy, please stop the MD jumpers. They are trash.
The MD itself isn't bad, really. The Myos are the real problem. Players should not be able to jump about 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can we please do something about this?! |
SLENDER M4N
Abstract Requiem
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Posted - 2015.09.15 18:04:00 -
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I once took out a jumpy mk.0 assault with a shotgun while he was mid air! 162 armor vs a 400+ armor assault can create very interesting results.
Soon to be MP 31B
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.09.15 18:06:00 -
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Cline MKP wrote:For the love of all things good and holy, please stop the MD jumpers. They are trash.
The MD itself isn't bad, really. The Myos are the real problem. Players should not be able to jump about 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can we please do something about this?!
For the love of all things good and holy, please get some gun game. You are trash.
The myos themselves aren't bad, really. These players are the real problem. Players should be able to aim at jumping targets, even if they jump 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can you please do something about this?
EDIT: Have your first like.
Welcome to the Dust514 forums.
EDIT EDIT: Before anyone says "LOL STFU Ghost, I bet you have no Gun Game at all"
Here you go, take this guide and be enlightened.
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If you see me on Dust, my computer must be dead.
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Vicious Minotaur
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Posted - 2015.09.15 18:08:00 -
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Jumping is fun, and its practitioners are as easy to kill with firearms as those kids in that one elementary school.
I am a minotaur.
Beware my poop.
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Cline MKP
Moose Knuckle Pros
10
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Posted - 2015.09.15 18:10:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote: For the love of all things good and holy, please get some gun game. You are trash.
The myos themselves aren't bad, really. These players are the real problem. Players should be able to aim at jumping targets, even if they jump 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can you please do something about this?
You see? Players like you are just plain assholes. Even with the sensitivity maxed, you cannot track these guys. They move too fast. Most of my deaths have been from MD jumpers. I can take em out easily from a distance but when a flood of bunny hoppers comes rushing at you and MD rounds are flying EVERYWHERE, there isn't anything you can do.
p.s. I bet you are one of these bunny hopping scrubs, huh? |
Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
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Posted - 2015.09.15 18:11:00 -
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Wow. Four posts in a row that make me wish I'd never heard of this game, for four different reasons.
There are four main races in DUST514: The Amarr, bla, bla, and bla.
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Regnier Feros
Pielords
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Posted - 2015.09.15 18:15:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.09.15 18:16:00 -
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Cline MKP wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote: For the love of all things good and holy, please get some gun game. You are trash.
The myos themselves aren't bad, really. These players are the real problem. Players should be able to aim at jumping targets, even if they jump 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can you please do something about this?
You see? Players like you are just plain assholes. Even with the sensitivity maxed, you cannot track these guys. They move too fast. Most of my deaths have been from MD jumpers. I can take em out easily from a distance but when a flood of bunny hoppers comes rushing at you and MD rounds are flying EVERYWHERE, there isn't anything you can do. p.s. I bet you are one of these bunny hopping scrubs, huh?
That post was satire.
See how easy it is to complain about something?
You're complaining that people with jumps are impossible to hit. I used the exact same sentence structure to show that your same argument can easily be made for the reverse side.
At the end of the day, you can't stop someone from running those fits, or the fact that Myos are practically here to stay (Especially since they were patched to where CCP wanted them).
So STFU, HTFU, and learn to aim and deal with it. The fact that these things aren't being spammed in PC is proof enough that they aren't "Impossible to hit". They have drawbacks, you just aren't exploiting them.
And no, I don't have a bunny hopping fit. You are probably new here, but I'm a fairly well known Minmatar Scout enthusiast. I have fun by grabbing my Nova Knives and stabbing idiots in the back. Watch your six o' clock or die.
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
If you see me on Dust, my computer must be dead.
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Summa Militum
Art.of.Death Smart Deploy
749
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Posted - 2015.09.15 18:17:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Cline MKP wrote:For the love of all things good and holy, please stop the MD jumpers. They are trash.
The MD itself isn't bad, really. The Myos are the real problem. Players should not be able to jump about 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can we please do something about this?! For the love of all things good and holy, please get some gun game. You are trash. The myos themselves aren't bad, really. These players are the real problem. Players should be able to aim at jumping targets, even if they jump 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can you please do something about this?
How about you pull your head out your ass and think it through?
I agree with you that people need to pay attention more when a jumpy comes around and they need to work to develop the necessary skill to shoot them but when you have an Armor stacked jumpy whose Mass Driver can out DPS you the ability to shoot the jumpy isn't going to help you unless you are able to shoot them with a Plasma Cannon. |
axis alpha
ScReWeD uP InC
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Posted - 2015.09.15 18:19:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Cline MKP wrote:For the love of all things good and holy, please stop the MD jumpers. They are trash.
The MD itself isn't bad, really. The Myos are the real problem. Players should not be able to jump about 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can we please do something about this?! For the love of all things good and holy, please get some gun game. You are trash. The myos themselves aren't bad, really. These players are the real problem. Players should be able to aim at jumping targets, even if they jump 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can you please do something about this? EDIT: Have your first like. Welcome to the Dust514 forums. lol gun game????
if half the players using these trash tactics had gun game they wouldnt need run right in your face then jump way faster than anyone can aim up and blast you with a flaylock or MD. they would NOT use jump mods and actually fight on the ground.....if they had GUN GAME.
edit, i can aim and hit these guys no problem from if i have the distance. its just annoying af when they run right up to you then jump.
Hullaballo and howdy doo! Musty prawns, and Timbucktu.
Yeltsibee and hibbertyhoo
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.09.15 18:20:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Cline MKP wrote:For the love of all things good and holy, please stop the MD jumpers. They are trash.
The MD itself isn't bad, really. The Myos are the real problem. Players should not be able to jump about 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can we please do something about this?! For the love of all things good and holy, please get some gun game. You are trash. The myos themselves aren't bad, really. These players are the real problem. Players should be able to aim at jumping targets, even if they jump 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can you please do something about this? How about you pull your head out your ass and think it through? I agree with you that people need to pay attention more when a jumpy comes around and they need to work to develop the necessary skill to shoot them but when you have an Armor stacked jumpy whose Mass Driver can out DPS you the ability to shoot the jumpy isn't going to help you unless you are able to shoot them with a Plasma Cannon.
The suit has major drawbacks and vulnerabilities.
Find them and exploit them.
If these things were really so hard to fight against, they would be spammed in PC.
They aren't for a reason.
Remember way back when? With the RR gallente sentinels?
Everyone complained about how OP they were and offered no counterplay?
Same situation. They HAVE weakness. Exploit them. They didn't work in PC because we all knew how to counter them.
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
If you see me on Dust, my computer must be dead.
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Cline MKP
Moose Knuckle Pros
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Posted - 2015.09.15 18:21:00 -
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As I previously stated, I can kill them from a distance. If they are anywhere close, it's no contest. I saw a Caldari CK.0 with 500+ shields jumping like tigger!
Before you say anything, I can run assault ck.0 and logi ck.0 on my other profile. Please explain how you can get your shields that high and still jump to the moon? |
Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.09.15 18:23:00 -
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I must agree with the OP.. These jumpy MD are unbearable. The spam is real, and the hit detection is broken. Most of the time they won't take damage while in mid air and will spam you with so many rounds of MD that you wont be able to see anything.
It's a trash technique for people with no gungame who found a new way to kill as they don't know how to do it properly.
Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER !
- Sequal Rise
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.09.15 18:23:00 -
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axis alpha wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Cline MKP wrote:For the love of all things good and holy, please stop the MD jumpers. They are trash.
The MD itself isn't bad, really. The Myos are the real problem. Players should not be able to jump about 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can we please do something about this?! For the love of all things good and holy, please get some gun game. You are trash. The myos themselves aren't bad, really. These players are the real problem. Players should be able to aim at jumping targets, even if they jump 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can you please do something about this? EDIT: Have your first like. Welcome to the Dust514 forums. lol gun game???? if half the players using these trash tactics had gun game they wouldnt need run right in your face then jump way faster than anyone can aim up and blast you with a flaylock or MD. they would NOT use jump mods and actually fight on the ground.....if they had GUN GAME.
Here is an article you should read.
Adapt and overcome. As I've said earlier in this thread, there is counterplay to this suit.
People who are using these suits are exploiting the fact that a good 60% of this community can't aim decently.
Against decent players, they get melted. A Duvolle at 30m will absolutely melt someone who tries to jump. MD has crappy DPS at range.
Don't make the mistake of trying to get right on top of them. The jump will take them out of your ability to aim up, and they can just jump on your head over and over until you die.
Give them some space, and mow them down.
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
If you see me on Dust, my computer must be dead.
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axis alpha
ScReWeD uP InC
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Posted - 2015.09.15 18:27:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:axis alpha wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Cline MKP wrote:For the love of all things good and holy, please stop the MD jumpers. They are trash.
The MD itself isn't bad, really. The Myos are the real problem. Players should not be able to jump about 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can we please do something about this?! For the love of all things good and holy, please get some gun game. You are trash. The myos themselves aren't bad, really. These players are the real problem. Players should be able to aim at jumping targets, even if they jump 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can you please do something about this? EDIT: Have your first like. Welcome to the Dust514 forums. lol gun game???? if half the players using these trash tactics had gun game they wouldnt need run right in your face then jump way faster than anyone can aim up and blast you with a flaylock or MD. they would NOT use jump mods and actually fight on the ground.....if they had GUN GAME. Here is an article you should read.Adapt and overcome. As I've said earlier in this thread, there is counterplay to this suit. People who are using these suits are exploiting the fact that a good 60% of this community can't aim decently. Against decent players, they get melted. A Duvolle at 30m will absolutely melt someone who tries to jump. MD has crappy DPS at range. Don't make the mistake of trying to get right on top of them. The jump will take them out of your ability to aim up, and they can just jump on your head over and over until you die. Give them some space, and mow them down.
i understand what you are saying and i agree but what im saying is that sometimes and very rarely its unbeatable. its not smart to run that fit and its not very effective to win a battle but its still annoying af.
Hullaballo and howdy doo! Musty prawns, and Timbucktu.
Yeltsibee and hibbertyhoo
Kick 'em in the dishpan. Hoo hoo hoo!
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.09.15 18:29:00 -
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Cline MKP wrote:For the love of all things good and holy, please stop the MD jumpers. They are trash.
The MD itself isn't bad, really. The Myos are the real problem. Players should not be able to jump about 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can we please do something about this?!
I think it is the horrible sensitivity and the way aim assist works that make it REALLY bad.
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Cline MKP
Moose Knuckle Pros
10
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Posted - 2015.09.15 18:30:00 -
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Look, I know it can be beaten. I have done it.
Tec N9ne is a prime example of asshattery.
He will jump through city maps, flinging MD rounds like its noboby's business and trying to deal 800+ dmg before he jumps again is tough. A guy in my squad, along with myself were shooting him and he got both of us.
Tell me how he can melt a proto sent and a std commando with relative ease? You can't run from splash dmg. As I said, he just jumps from building to building, like its nothing. |
Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
1
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Posted - 2015.09.15 18:30:00 -
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If you think this tactic isn't used in PC, then you should play against academy inferno Kaisar.
These POS can only spam jumpy Agimus MD that spit core grenades everywhere. And it works! The lag gets terrible, and you can't do anything against them because of lags and hit detections...
Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER !
- Sequal Rise
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
12
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Posted - 2015.09.15 18:33:00 -
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Sequal's Back wrote:If you think this tactic isn't used in PC, then you should play against academy inferno Kaisar.
These POS can only spam jumpy Agimus MD that spit core grenades everywhere. And it works! The lag gets terrible, and you can't do anything against them because of lags and hit detections...
lol, they run that versus groups they know it will work against.
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
If you see me on Dust, my computer must be dead.
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Vesta Opalus
Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance
1
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Posted - 2015.09.15 18:45:00 -
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Are you sure myos are OP?
Are you sure these guys using them wouldnt kill you anyway if they were using another fit?
Are you sure you arent just fixating on myos and getting butthurt about them because thats the most obvious part of the fitting?
Like many have said here, if you have an even mediocre gun game like myself you can absolutely massacre myofibril fits 99 times out of 100.
Myofibrils are actually nerfing your fitting in general use unless you situationally exploit positioning with them (which is the point of them, after all).
If you are getting killed consistently by a myo fit, theres a pretty good chance you'd lose to the same person in a non myo fit. In fact that player would almost certainly be more dangerous without them. |
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Thumb Green
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Posted - 2015.09.15 18:48:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Cline MKP wrote:For the love of all things good and holy, please stop the MD jumpers. They are trash.
The MD itself isn't bad, really. The Myos are the real problem. Players should not be able to jump about 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can we please do something about this?! For the love of all things good and holy, please get some gun game. You are trash. The myos themselves aren't bad, really. These players are the real problem. Players should be able to aim at jumping targets, even if they jump 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can you please do something about this?
Except in cqc they're nearly impossible to track, my controller literally can't keep up on sensitivity settings that don't screw me up as I switch fits with different weapons that all turn at different rates.
If the drawback of having less HP, as some will point out, had any real significance we wouldn't see so many grasshoppers.
Trying to bring the slayer logi back.... unsuccessfully so far.
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Count- -Crotchula
TasteTheTamsen
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Posted - 2015.09.15 18:56:00 -
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axis alpha wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Cline MKP wrote:For the love of all things good and holy, please stop the MD jumpers. They are trash.
The MD itself isn't bad, really. The Myos are the real problem. Players should not be able to jump about 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can we please do something about this?! For the love of all things good and holy, please get some gun game. You are trash. The myos themselves aren't bad, really. These players are the real problem. Players should be able to aim at jumping targets, even if they jump 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can you please do something about this? EDIT: Have your first like. Welcome to the Dust514 forums. lol gun game???? if half the players using these trash tactics had gun game they wouldnt need run right in your face then jump way faster than anyone can aim up and blast you with a flaylock or MD. they would NOT use jump mods and actually fight on the ground.....if they had GUN GAME. edit, i can aim and hit these guys no problem from if i have the distance. its just annoying af when they run right up to you then jump.
lol anyone saying get gungame is a ******* idiot,
I had some prick earlier called ELITE QC who, every time he realised he was losing a fire-fight, would run at me and do 1300 damage with a ******* melee attack.
People literally STOP shooting in a first person SHOOTER to melee you.
You COULD skill up all your weapons, fit your guy perfectly and be the best aim in the world, OR just use the ******* melee attack and kill someone in one hit.
gungame means NOTHING in a game FULL of one hit kill scrub weapons gungame means NOTHING in a game which allows bad players to get easy kills.
you do not need gungame in DUST, just camp, be annoying, spam explosive weapons, spam one hit kill weapons.
gungame doesn't even ******* come into it, DUST is a sandbox lobby shooter where you can literally sit on the top of the map and spam a grenade launcher if you want.
or you can jump 50 feet in the air
this is not a serious game this is not a serious shooter
this game is a joke.
"you are pathetic little fat bald man sitting on the chair with chinese controller". -4lbert wesker
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
1
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Posted - 2015.09.15 18:58:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Cline MKP wrote:For the love of all things good and holy, please stop the MD jumpers. They are trash.
The MD itself isn't bad, really. The Myos are the real problem. Players should not be able to jump about 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can we please do something about this?! For the love of all things good and holy, please go back in time and start playing Quake Arena. Jumpy, funny, merry-go-round mechanics are trash in a tactical shooter ground combat game. The players themselves aren't bad, really. The juvenile mentality of console kiddies are the real problem. Players should be able to accomplish tasks without jumping 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can you please cancel DUST and make the d*mn game you were trying to make in the first place? Here you go, take this guide and be enlightened.
FIFY.
CCP logic GÇô We fix what doesn't need breaking.
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Count- -Crotchula
TasteTheTamsen
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Posted - 2015.09.15 18:59:00 -
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Sequal's Back wrote:If you think this tactic isn't used in PC, then you should play against academy inferno Kaisar.
These POS can only spam jumpy Agimus MD that spit core grenades everywhere. And it works! The lag gets terrible, and you can't do anything against them because of lags and hit detections...
wow they sound like a great group of people.
academy inferno are cannon fodder, they are NPC, I didn't even think they were a real corp for a few years.
and if anybody seriously goes through the effort of setting up a PC, possibly having a good match against people who came for a good match and then spams mass drivers, should be banned from ever playing "competitively".
Why do the same trash in pubs in PC? That goes against the point of even playing a PC match.
What utter, utter scrubs.
"you are pathetic little fat bald man sitting on the chair with chinese controller". -4lbert wesker
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Asad Thahab-Jabal
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.09.15 19:04:00 -
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Myofib MD and flaylock jumping is cancer. Please balance the myofib, Rattati. Tone down the jump height by a noticeable amount. |
Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.09.15 19:16:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Cline MKP wrote:For the love of all things good and holy, please stop the MD jumpers. They are trash.
The MD itself isn't bad, really. The Myos are the real problem. Players should not be able to jump about 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can we please do something about this?! For the love of all things good and holy, please go back in time and start playing Quake Arena. Jumpy, funny, merry-go-round mechanics are trash in a tactical shooter ground combat game. The players themselves aren't bad, really. The juvenile mentality of console kiddies are the real problem. Players should be able to accomplish tasks without jumping 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can you please cancel DUST and make the d*mn game you were trying to make in the first place? Here you go, take this guide and be enlightened. FIFY.
Not gonna lie.
I loved games like Quake and Tribes.
I'm used to far worse than this.
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
If you see me on Dust, my computer must be dead.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
12
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Posted - 2015.09.15 19:19:00 -
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Count- -Crotchula wrote:axis alpha wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Cline MKP wrote:For the love of all things good and holy, please stop the MD jumpers. They are trash.
The MD itself isn't bad, really. The Myos are the real problem. Players should not be able to jump about 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can we please do something about this?! For the love of all things good and holy, please get some gun game. You are trash. The myos themselves aren't bad, really. These players are the real problem. Players should be able to aim at jumping targets, even if they jump 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can you please do something about this? EDIT: Have your first like. Welcome to the Dust514 forums. lol gun game???? if half the players using these trash tactics had gun game they wouldnt need run right in your face then jump way faster than anyone can aim up and blast you with a flaylock or MD. they would NOT use jump mods and actually fight on the ground.....if they had GUN GAME. edit, i can aim and hit these guys no problem from if i have the distance. its just annoying af when they run right up to you then jump. lol anyone saying get gungame is a ******* idiot, I had some prick earlier called ELITE QC who, every time he realised he was losing a fire-fight, would run at me and do 1300 damage with a ******* melee attack. People literally STOP shooting in a first person SHOOTER to melee you. You COULD skill up all your weapons, fit your guy perfectly and be the best aim in the world, OR just use the ******* melee attack and kill someone in one hit. gungame means NOTHING in a game FULL of one hit kill scrub weapons gungame means NOTHING in a game which allows bad players to get easy kills. you do not need gungame in DUST, just camp, be annoying, spam explosive weapons, spam one hit kill weapons. gungame doesn't even ******* come into it, DUST is a sandbox lobby shooter where you can literally sit on the top of the map and spam a grenade launcher if you want. or you can jump 50 feet in the air this is not a serious game this is not a serious shooter this game is a joke.
I'm not disagreeing.
But these guys need to learn it somewhere. Gungame isn't exactly vital to Dust, but it sure will put you above a lot of people VERY quickly.
I came back to Dust after a good 3 month hiatus and was still surprised at how some people still hadn't learned that stafing+shooting is 10x better than shooting and standing still.
like wtf.
That being said, real gun game exists somewhere between Arma and CS.
You gotta have that strafe, recoil control, and situational awareness.
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
If you see me on Dust, my computer must be dead.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Four Horseman Tactical Agency
2
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Posted - 2015.09.15 19:30:00 -
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Sequal's Back wrote:I must agree with the OP.. These jumpy MD are unbearable. The spam is real, and the hit detection is broken. Most of the time they won't take damage while in mid air and will spam you with so many rounds of MD that you wont be able to see anything.
It's a trash technique for people with no gungame who found a new way to kill as they don't know how to do it properly. Sounds just like core spam to me .
Teamwork is really important - said the Tyrannosarus Rex from Kung Fury .
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Dont-be-a-D1CK
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.09.15 19:35:00 -
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The Jumpy fits are being utilised in PC much more than you seem to think Ghost, and not just stomps but in competetive battles they see some use and can have one hell of an impact, as you are dealing with a squad on the ground and some hero comes flying over you spamming MD/PLC/FP, Gal fits keep the most speed+HP using them and seem the go-to though Min can do it just as well with less tank and more speed. They have counters but I do think they imbalance gameplay...
As for the get gungame responses.. this applies to 99% of the Dust playerbase
Working your WASD while popping skulls, or playing ballerina with a DS3 and AA is hardly "gungame"
Sure it works, but the simple fact is some gamers want to play, not tryhard and Dust mechanics punish one side of that
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.09.15 19:48:00 -
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Dont-be-a-D1CK wrote:The Jumpy fits are being utilised in PC much more than you seem to think Ghost, and not just stomps but in competetive battles they see some use and can have one hell of an impact, as you are dealing with a squad on the ground and some hero comes flying over you spamming MD/PLC/FP, Gal fits keep the most speed+HP using them and seem the go-to though Min can do it just as well with less tank and more speed. They have counters but I do think they imbalance gameplay...
As for the get gungame responses.. this applies to 99% of the Dust playerbase
Working your WASD while popping skulls, or playing ballerina with a DS3 and AA is hardly "gungame"
Sure it works, but the simple fact is some gamers want to play, not tryhard and Dust mechanics punish one side of that
One guy =/= spam
Its a niche fit with a set of strengths and weaknesses.
One guy running it can be valuable. You can get into areas others can't access and lay down some wicked area denial.
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
If you see me on Dust, my computer must be dead.
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