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Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2015.09.15 18:06:00 -
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Cline MKP wrote:For the love of all things good and holy, please stop the MD jumpers. They are trash.
The MD itself isn't bad, really. The Myos are the real problem. Players should not be able to jump about 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can we please do something about this?!
For the love of all things good and holy, please get some gun game. You are trash.
The myos themselves aren't bad, really. These players are the real problem. Players should be able to aim at jumping targets, even if they jump 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can you please do something about this?
EDIT: Have your first like.
Welcome to the Dust514 forums.
EDIT EDIT: Before anyone says "LOL STFU Ghost, I bet you have no Gun Game at all"
Here you go, take this guide and be enlightened.
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
If you see me on Dust, my computer must be dead.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.09.15 18:16:00 -
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Cline MKP wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote: For the love of all things good and holy, please get some gun game. You are trash.
The myos themselves aren't bad, really. These players are the real problem. Players should be able to aim at jumping targets, even if they jump 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can you please do something about this?
You see? Players like you are just plain assholes. Even with the sensitivity maxed, you cannot track these guys. They move too fast. Most of my deaths have been from MD jumpers. I can take em out easily from a distance but when a flood of bunny hoppers comes rushing at you and MD rounds are flying EVERYWHERE, there isn't anything you can do. p.s. I bet you are one of these bunny hopping scrubs, huh?
That post was satire.
See how easy it is to complain about something?
You're complaining that people with jumps are impossible to hit. I used the exact same sentence structure to show that your same argument can easily be made for the reverse side.
At the end of the day, you can't stop someone from running those fits, or the fact that Myos are practically here to stay (Especially since they were patched to where CCP wanted them).
So STFU, HTFU, and learn to aim and deal with it. The fact that these things aren't being spammed in PC is proof enough that they aren't "Impossible to hit". They have drawbacks, you just aren't exploiting them.
And no, I don't have a bunny hopping fit. You are probably new here, but I'm a fairly well known Minmatar Scout enthusiast. I have fun by grabbing my Nova Knives and stabbing idiots in the back. Watch your six o' clock or die.
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
If you see me on Dust, my computer must be dead.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.09.15 18:20:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Cline MKP wrote:For the love of all things good and holy, please stop the MD jumpers. They are trash.
The MD itself isn't bad, really. The Myos are the real problem. Players should not be able to jump about 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can we please do something about this?! For the love of all things good and holy, please get some gun game. You are trash. The myos themselves aren't bad, really. These players are the real problem. Players should be able to aim at jumping targets, even if they jump 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can you please do something about this? How about you pull your head out your ass and think it through? I agree with you that people need to pay attention more when a jumpy comes around and they need to work to develop the necessary skill to shoot them but when you have an Armor stacked jumpy whose Mass Driver can out DPS you the ability to shoot the jumpy isn't going to help you unless you are able to shoot them with a Plasma Cannon.
The suit has major drawbacks and vulnerabilities.
Find them and exploit them.
If these things were really so hard to fight against, they would be spammed in PC.
They aren't for a reason.
Remember way back when? With the RR gallente sentinels?
Everyone complained about how OP they were and offered no counterplay?
Same situation. They HAVE weakness. Exploit them. They didn't work in PC because we all knew how to counter them.
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
If you see me on Dust, my computer must be dead.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.09.15 18:23:00 -
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axis alpha wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Cline MKP wrote:For the love of all things good and holy, please stop the MD jumpers. They are trash.
The MD itself isn't bad, really. The Myos are the real problem. Players should not be able to jump about 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can we please do something about this?! For the love of all things good and holy, please get some gun game. You are trash. The myos themselves aren't bad, really. These players are the real problem. Players should be able to aim at jumping targets, even if they jump 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can you please do something about this? EDIT: Have your first like. Welcome to the Dust514 forums. lol gun game???? if half the players using these trash tactics had gun game they wouldnt need run right in your face then jump way faster than anyone can aim up and blast you with a flaylock or MD. they would NOT use jump mods and actually fight on the ground.....if they had GUN GAME.
Here is an article you should read.
Adapt and overcome. As I've said earlier in this thread, there is counterplay to this suit.
People who are using these suits are exploiting the fact that a good 60% of this community can't aim decently.
Against decent players, they get melted. A Duvolle at 30m will absolutely melt someone who tries to jump. MD has crappy DPS at range.
Don't make the mistake of trying to get right on top of them. The jump will take them out of your ability to aim up, and they can just jump on your head over and over until you die.
Give them some space, and mow them down.
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
If you see me on Dust, my computer must be dead.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.09.15 18:33:00 -
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Sequal's Back wrote:If you think this tactic isn't used in PC, then you should play against academy inferno Kaisar.
These POS can only spam jumpy Agimus MD that spit core grenades everywhere. And it works! The lag gets terrible, and you can't do anything against them because of lags and hit detections...
lol, they run that versus groups they know it will work against.
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
If you see me on Dust, my computer must be dead.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.09.15 19:16:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Cline MKP wrote:For the love of all things good and holy, please stop the MD jumpers. They are trash.
The MD itself isn't bad, really. The Myos are the real problem. Players should not be able to jump about 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can we please do something about this?! For the love of all things good and holy, please go back in time and start playing Quake Arena. Jumpy, funny, merry-go-round mechanics are trash in a tactical shooter ground combat game. The players themselves aren't bad, really. The juvenile mentality of console kiddies are the real problem. Players should be able to accomplish tasks without jumping 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can you please cancel DUST and make the d*mn game you were trying to make in the first place? Here you go, take this guide and be enlightened. FIFY.
Not gonna lie.
I loved games like Quake and Tribes.
I'm used to far worse than this.
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
If you see me on Dust, my computer must be dead.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.09.15 19:19:00 -
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Count- -Crotchula wrote:axis alpha wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Cline MKP wrote:For the love of all things good and holy, please stop the MD jumpers. They are trash.
The MD itself isn't bad, really. The Myos are the real problem. Players should not be able to jump about 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can we please do something about this?! For the love of all things good and holy, please get some gun game. You are trash. The myos themselves aren't bad, really. These players are the real problem. Players should be able to aim at jumping targets, even if they jump 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can you please do something about this? EDIT: Have your first like. Welcome to the Dust514 forums. lol gun game???? if half the players using these trash tactics had gun game they wouldnt need run right in your face then jump way faster than anyone can aim up and blast you with a flaylock or MD. they would NOT use jump mods and actually fight on the ground.....if they had GUN GAME. edit, i can aim and hit these guys no problem from if i have the distance. its just annoying af when they run right up to you then jump. lol anyone saying get gungame is a ******* idiot, I had some prick earlier called ELITE QC who, every time he realised he was losing a fire-fight, would run at me and do 1300 damage with a ******* melee attack. People literally STOP shooting in a first person SHOOTER to melee you. You COULD skill up all your weapons, fit your guy perfectly and be the best aim in the world, OR just use the ******* melee attack and kill someone in one hit. gungame means NOTHING in a game FULL of one hit kill scrub weapons gungame means NOTHING in a game which allows bad players to get easy kills. you do not need gungame in DUST, just camp, be annoying, spam explosive weapons, spam one hit kill weapons. gungame doesn't even ******* come into it, DUST is a sandbox lobby shooter where you can literally sit on the top of the map and spam a grenade launcher if you want. or you can jump 50 feet in the air this is not a serious game this is not a serious shooter this game is a joke.
I'm not disagreeing.
But these guys need to learn it somewhere. Gungame isn't exactly vital to Dust, but it sure will put you above a lot of people VERY quickly.
I came back to Dust after a good 3 month hiatus and was still surprised at how some people still hadn't learned that stafing+shooting is 10x better than shooting and standing still.
like wtf.
That being said, real gun game exists somewhere between Arma and CS.
You gotta have that strafe, recoil control, and situational awareness.
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
If you see me on Dust, my computer must be dead.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.09.15 19:48:00 -
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Dont-be-a-D1CK wrote:The Jumpy fits are being utilised in PC much more than you seem to think Ghost, and not just stomps but in competetive battles they see some use and can have one hell of an impact, as you are dealing with a squad on the ground and some hero comes flying over you spamming MD/PLC/FP, Gal fits keep the most speed+HP using them and seem the go-to though Min can do it just as well with less tank and more speed. They have counters but I do think they imbalance gameplay...
As for the get gungame responses.. this applies to 99% of the Dust playerbase
Working your WASD while popping skulls, or playing ballerina with a DS3 and AA is hardly "gungame"
Sure it works, but the simple fact is some gamers want to play, not tryhard and Dust mechanics punish one side of that
One guy =/= spam
Its a niche fit with a set of strengths and weaknesses.
One guy running it can be valuable. You can get into areas others can't access and lay down some wicked area denial.
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
If you see me on Dust, my computer must be dead.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.09.16 01:43:00 -
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Regnier Feros wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:axis alpha wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Cline MKP wrote:For the love of all things good and holy, please stop the MD jumpers. They are trash.
The MD itself isn't bad, really. The Myos are the real problem. Players should not be able to jump about 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can we please do something about this?! For the love of all things good and holy, please get some gun game. You are trash. The myos themselves aren't bad, really. These players are the real problem. Players should be able to aim at jumping targets, even if they jump 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can you please do something about this? EDIT: Have your first like. Welcome to the Dust514 forums. lol gun game???? if half the players using these trash tactics had gun game they wouldnt need run right in your face then jump way faster than anyone can aim up and blast you with a flaylock or MD. they would NOT use jump mods and actually fight on the ground.....if they had GUN GAME. Here is an article you should read.Adapt and overcome. As I've said earlier in this thread, there is counterplay to this suit. People who are using these suits are exploiting the fact that a good 60% of this community can't aim decently. Against decent players, they get melted. A Duvolle at 30m will absolutely melt someone who tries to jump. MD has crappy DPS at range. Don't make the mistake of trying to get right on top of them. The jump will take them out of your ability to aim up, and they can just jump on your head over and over until you die. Give them some space, and mow them down. We need to squad up sometime
Pubchat is LOLFA
I'll be on tonight
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
If you see me on Dust, my computer must be dead.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.09.16 01:45:00 -
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4lbert Wesker wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Cline MKP wrote:For the love of all things good and holy, please stop the MD jumpers. They are trash.
The MD itself isn't bad, really. The Myos are the real problem. Players should not be able to jump about 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can we please do something about this?! For the love of all things good and holy, please get some gun game. You are trash. The myos themselves aren't bad, really. These players are the real problem. Players should be able to aim at jumping targets, even if they jump 15-20 ft or more. This is absurd. Can you please do something about this? EDIT: Have your first like. Welcome to the Dust514 forums. EDIT EDIT: Before anyone says "LOL STFU Ghost, I bet you have no Gun Game at all" Here you go, take this guide and be enlightened. I see you enjoy with jumping and shooting with MD :) It's not matter of gun game because you can't expect new player to counter that. Really it's easy to say "git gud" rather than remove jumping mods DUST 514 DON'T ******* NEED!!!!!!!
I don't know about you, but I personally love the variety of tactics present in this game.
Subtracting options available to players is something that should only be done if it is blatantly overpowered or exploitable.
I'm saying that it isn't, and thus should be left.
As I mentioned earlier, I'm primarily a rifleman/nova knife scout. I typically don't run super jumpy fits with mass drivers.
I run jumpy fits with Min Scouts for mobility. Nothing like being able to jump over heavies heads when you're surprised.
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
If you see me on Dust, my computer must be dead.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.09.23 12:13:00 -
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JEDI LORD HOTH wrote:Cris X Cross makes ya wanna JUMP...JUMP.
Points for the music quote
Double points for the Hoth username.
I take it you have read the Bane Series?
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.09.23 12:16:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Cline MKP wrote:Pretty sure a CPM shouldn't say htfu, stfu or gtfo. You sgoukd argue both sides. In other words, be neutral. You, sir, are extremely bias. Not very good for a CPM. But what do I know. I just whine because people use bs exploits. But whatever. Have fun jumping. You're absolutely right. Next time I won't say anything and just skip straight to ignoring the people that don't want to discuss, they just want to complain. That post was made because I'm not going to argue with people that want it just their way: Outright removal of a module. Dust 514 has seen enough things removed that have never come back (see Marauders, LLAVs, Logi Dropships, etc etc). So if a person wants to talk balance, sure, I'll talk with them about balance. But if they don't want balance and just want the module removed? I'm not going to waste my time. Consider that a warning. You can call me bias all you want but it doesn't change the fact that I'm just not going to hear it. CCP has the ban hammer as their "going nuclear" tactic, I have outright dismissal and will use it to the fullest extent of my capability. If you want the module balanced, hit me up but if you want the module removed, talk to the other CPM (though I supremely doubt they'll hear it any more than I will; I'm just going to tell you upfront that I'm not going to hear you out)
Yeah, stick to your guns Amadi!
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
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