at max ranks for ewar you should be able to detect any scout that has a single damp on at 15m and everything else in under 6m

allowing you to tank while having this visibility is what makes it a great scout hunter, the range would only serve to give squad mates more vision as the cal scout can do but keep in mind that the cal scout has to give up all of its hp to be able to do this meaning they have to rely more on it and their squad to keep them alive

the only scouts that should be able to even get close without you noticing are double damped gal and cal scouts as a min scout needs three damps just to go under the middle ring

a gal scout that is double damped loses most of its main tank and a cal scout is easy to deal with as it can easily be destroyed by anti shiled weapons in under half a second and you will likely see it before it sees you, the gal scout is really the only thing you have to sorta worry about but even then you should have enough tank to be able to survive any ranged attacks and if it gets too close for knifing or to use a shotgun you should be able to pick him up and react fast enough to eliminate it

you can use an AScR and BP combo or CR and BScP combo to hunt scouts any of the scouts that are damped well enough should have very low eHP and those that aren't should easily be picked up and picked off quickly

This is a simple question.

Rather than shoehorning the Amscout into the recon role and assassination role (which is better handled by the other scouts) would it be better suited as a "Light Assault" intended for Fast Attack and Counter-Reconnaisance work?

Not trolling, and not judging.

Put your two cents here.

If only range extender were good as they used to be, am scout would be quite useful.

Sums up my original thoughts pretty well actually.

I hadn't set my heart on biotics but that seems a solid option. Do we have any other suggestions for how the amscout might better perform?

Sums up my original thoughts pretty well actually.

I hadn't set my heart on biotics but that seems a solid option. Do we have any other suggestions for how the amscout might better perform?

This is a simple question.

Rather than shoehorning the Amscout into the recon role and assassination role (which is better handled by the other scouts) would it be better suited as a "Light Assault" intended for Fast Attack and Counter-Reconnaisance work?

Not trolling, and not judging.

Put your two cents here.

Gal scout is dampening and low power, high range scans.

Caldari is dampening and high power, short range scans.

Minmatar is speed and dampening.

Amarr is durability and dampening.

Personally, I like the idea of the Amarr scout being the go to "Low profile slayer". If you want to slap dampeners on an assault, it should be emulating the Amarr scout. That being said, you need to be VERY CAREFUL with HP values.

If you aren't careful, Amarr scout will literally replace assaults.

Is it possible to give a suit a Bonus that only can be applied to one class of suits?
Amarr scout bonus plus whatever to Scan Precision to seeing light suits only and a General scan percison to the other classes of suits.That way it could be a scout killer without being a killer of all dropsuits.

Strong Scan Precision is as much about detecting/avoiding threats as it is sniffing out infiltrators. Fit to maximize their strength at EWAR, these units weigh in at 250HP-350HP. They must choose every fight very carefully, and their survival depends largely upon detecting and assessing threats before they themselves are detected.

Restricting the AM Scout's scans to focus only on other Scouts would hurt the AM Scout more than it'd help.

I'd say "torch" rather than reduce.

I've managed to get a sentinel really low on the damps (compared to normal, and there's no guarantee that a bonus to only pick up scouts would spot that fatfit. Adipem, you know the baseline scout stuff better than me.

And if my triple-damped amsent can't get under that baseline, then an assault surely can.

Not sure what you're saying, Breakin. In case I was unclear, Luther's idea above would do more harm than good to the AM Scout. You can't hunt scouts if you're dead, and if you're blind to everything but Scouts, you'll definitely be dead.

As for your heavy, 3 complex damps will get your scan profile under 28dB Active Scans as well as all outer-ring passive scans. If you're interested in passive scan values, here's breakdown: Google Doc. To the right of the first sheet is a summary of scan profiles for all unit types.

I was saying that an amscout that only got a bonus to fighting scouts would be dead meat against anyone who even partially took EWAR seriously. and with ranges for scanning being absolute crap, the Amscout has excellent base sensory range... Within the optimal of a Breach Assault Rifle.

I don't see how biotics man gives it a role. What will that bring to the table? What role needs lots of biotics? I mean it could be a nice lolfit suit, but what place would it have in competitive gameplay?

This is a simple question.

Rather than shoehorning the Amscout into the recon role and assassination role (which is better handled by the other scouts) would it be better suited as a "Light Assault" intended for Fast Attack and Counter-Reconnaisance work?

Not trolling, and not judging.

Put your two cents here.

what if the amscout's bonusing was for precision and range rather than precision and stamina?

This is a simple question.

Rather than shoehorning the Amscout into the recon role and assassination role (which is better handled by the other scouts) would it be better suited as a "Light Assault" intended for Fast Attack and Counter-Reconnaisance work?

Not trolling, and not judging.

Put your two cents here.