DUST Search - Theorycrafting the Amarr Scout

Breakin Stuff wrote:

Adipem Nothi wrote:

Breakin Stuff wrote:

Adipem Nothi wrote:

Luther Mandrix wrote:

Is it possible to give a suit a Bonus that only can be applied to one class of suits?
Amarr scout bonus plus whatever to Scan Precision to seeing light suits only and a General scan percison to the other classes of suits.That way it could be a scout killer without being a killer of all dropsuits.

Strong Scan Precision is as much about detecting/avoiding threats as it is sniffing out infiltrators. Fit to maximize their strength at EWAR, these units weigh in at 250HP-350HP. They must choose every fight very carefully, and their survival depends largely upon detecting and assessing threats before they themselves are detected.

Restricting the AM Scout's scans to focus only on other Scouts would hurt the AM Scout more than it'd help.

I'd say "torch" rather than reduce.

I've managed to get a sentinel really low on the damps (compared to normal, and there's no guarantee that a bonus to only pick up scouts would spot that fatfit. Adipem, you know the baseline scout stuff better than me.

And if my triple-damped amsent can't get under that baseline, then an assault surely can.

Not sure what you're saying, Breakin. In case I was unclear, Luther's idea above would do more harm than good to the AM Scout. You can't hunt scouts if you're dead, and if you're blind to everything but Scouts, you'll definitely be dead.

As for your heavy, 3 complex damps will get your scan profile under 28dB Active Scans as well as all outer-ring passive scans. If you're interested in passive scan values, here's breakdown: Google Doc. To the right of the first sheet is a summary of scan profiles for all unit types.

I was saying that an amscout that only got a bonus to fighting scouts would be dead meat against anyone who even partially took EWAR seriously. and with ranges for scanning being absolute crap, the Amscout has excellent base sensory range... Within the optimal of a Breach Assault Rifle.


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Luther Mandrix WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL RUST415 625	Posted - 2015.08.28 22:02:00 - [1] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: This is a simple question. Rather than shoehorning the Amscout into the recon role and assassination role (which is better handled by the other scouts) would it be better suited as a "Light Assault" intended for Fast Attack and Counter-Reconnaisance work? Not trolling, and not judging. Put your two cents here. Sounds good If the Amarr scout was a scout Killer!!!!!!!!! but was not a (OP Cal logi of old) (So how about a damage bonus against light suits only!) And a bonus to scan percision against light suits. This way It would be The scout Killer!
Luther Mandrix WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL RUST415 625	Posted - 2015.08.28 22:08:00 - [2] - Quote Luther Mandrix wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: This is a simple question. Rather than shoehorning the Amscout into the recon role and assassination role (which is better handled by the other scouts) would it be better suited as a "Light Assault" intended for Fast Attack and Counter-Reconnaisance work? Not trolling, and not judging. Put your two cents here. Sounds good If the Amarr scout was a scout Killer!!!!!!!!! but was not a (OP Cal logi of old) (So how about a damage bonus against light suits only!) And a bonus to scan percision against light suits. This way It would be The scout Killer! The Apex Version of This scout should have a Contact Gernade Bolt Pistol Assault Scrambler Rifle Compact NanoHive Cloak
Luther Mandrix WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL RUST415 632	Posted - 2015.08.30 19:41:00 - [3] - Quote Is it possible to give a suit a Bonus that only can be applied to one class of suits? Amarr scout bonus plus whatever to Scan Precision to seeing light suits only and a General scan percison to the other classes of suits.That way it could be a scout killer without being a killer of all dropsuits.
Luther Mandrix WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL RUST415 632	Posted - 2015.08.31 01:28:00 - [4] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Luther Mandrix wrote: Is it possible to give a suit a Bonus that only can be applied to one class of suits? Amarr scout bonus plus whatever to Scan Precision to seeing light suits only and a General scan percison to the other classes of suits.That way it could be a scout killer without being a killer of all dropsuits. Strong Scan Precision is as much about detecting/avoiding threats as it is sniffing out infiltrators. Fit to maximize their strength at EWAR, these units weigh in at 250HP-350HP. They must choose every fight very carefully, and their survival depends largely upon detecting and assessing threats before they themselves are detected. Restricting the AM Scout's scans to focus only on other Scouts would hurt the AM Scout more than it'd help. I'd say "torch" rather than reduce. I've managed to get a sentinel really low on the damps (compared to normal, and there's no guarantee that a bonus to only pick up scouts would spot that fatfit. Adipem, you know the baseline scout stuff better than me. And if my triple-damped amsent can't get under that baseline, then an assault surely can. Not sure what you're saying, Breakin. In case I was unclear, Luther's idea above would do more harm than good to the AM Scout. You can't hunt scouts if you're dead, and if you're blind to everything but Scouts, you'll definitely be dead. As for your heavy, 3 complex damps will get your scan profile under 28dB Active Scans as well as all outer-ring passive scans. If you're interested in passive scan values, here's breakdown: Google Doc. To the right of the first sheet is a summary of scan profiles for all unit types. I was saying that an amscout that only got a bonus to fighting scouts would be dead meat against anyone who even partially took EWAR seriously. and with ranges for scanning being absolute crap, the Amscout has excellent base sensory range... Within the optimal of a Breach Assault Rifle. Just because it has a greater bonus to looking for scouts doesn't mean it can't have any bonus to finding other suit. Just give it two bonuses % to light suits detection(greater) And % to finding all the other suits detection(not as great as light suit bonus)