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CUSE TOWN333
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.08.19 13:42:00 -
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since i have come back to this game i have noticed a horrible playerbase that has no fight in them whatsoever. 5min into every match and people are leaveing battle or running to the redline to grab their sniper rifle. bluedots leaveing battle redots leaveing battle dafuq u running to? there is no shame in staying in battle and haveing a bad game it probably will tuffen you up. and its not only the new player but vets to. i understand no one can make you fight but ask yourself why play the game in the first place. props to Summer Salt from Molon Labe who stayed in a battle after Sax and the rest just rage quit.
If you run your only going to die tired.
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Kodho
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.08.19 13:46:00 -
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Not me! I run to the redline with my sniper rifle right at the beginning of the match!
Long Live the Scout!
Kodho
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.08.19 13:47:00 -
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It's a joke at this stage.. between fggts checking leaderboard and leaving before even deploying and KDR padders giving up if it looks like they may have to sacrifice their precious stats to push an objective, it's pretty damn boring.
Add in the NPC freshies that have no Corp support Minus the few that RQ because they want to solo a squad based game
= Fun for All \o/
SOONtm
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
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Posted - 2015.08.19 13:47:00 -
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Your basically beating a dead horse, you know how many threads have been made about people leaving battle?
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
2
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Posted - 2015.08.19 13:50:00 -
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Tell that to CCP once they return from their holidays.
Modern society is lacking in empathy
Pole from flesh and bones
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game
944
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Posted - 2015.08.19 13:59:00 -
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I've never seen Summer Sault not pushing an objective. He's one of the rare blue that will face the enemy with you (and not behind you waiting for you to do the job in order to go "safely").
On topic: erase sniper rifle. Problem solved.
Bring your daughter... TO THE SLAUGHTER !
- Sequal Rise
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Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
163
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Posted - 2015.08.19 14:08:00 -
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Anyone who actually gives a crap about their KDR seriously needs #priorities. It's honestly a pointless stat because what is truly valued in this game is loyalty and the ability to actually work well with your team. I have NEVER cared about my KDR which is why sometimes I'll die up to 18 times in a one sided match because I'd rather say I tried my hardest than just give up like some spineless *****.
KEQ Diplomat
Gallente Loyalist ... Come at me bro.
A grenade to the head will most certainly get you dead.
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LOL KILLZ
LulKlz
305
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Posted - 2015.08.19 14:18:00 -
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When it comes to stomps I find myself whipping out the Apex. Go ahead and kill me. But know this I'll be taking a Proto with me. I used to be a Bonafied badass with a sniper rifle but those days are behind me. It's just so damn boring.
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Beld Errmon
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Posted - 2015.08.19 14:21:00 -
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Personally I only leave battle when its one of the lag inducing maps that become unplayble for me after about 2 mins, you can't blame anyone for not bothering to play those maps, for many the frame rate drops to less than 1.
As frustrating as it is, I can't blame solo players for quitting when they see a well known stomping squad on the otherside, playing against some of you people just isn't fun. You gang bang the **** out of everyone in the game going as far as to pull out prototanks on an already breaking team, and you wonder why ppl say **** it, im out.
There really isn't any answer to the problem, if you treat every pub match like its PC, capping the point and pushing the enemy to the redline in the first 2 mins, people are gunna leave and play a match that isn't completely pointless, and you've only got your own epicness to blame for it :)
Assault Dropship Pilot
Semi-Retired Closed Bittervet
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Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
163
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Posted - 2015.08.19 14:24:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:Personally I only leave battle when its one of the lag inducing maps that become unplayble for me after about 2 mins, you can't blame anyone for not bothering to play those maps, for many the frame rate drops to less than 1.
As frustrating as it is, I can't blame solo players for quitting when they see a well known stomping squad on the otherside, playing against some of you people just isn't fun. You gang bang the **** out of everyone in the game going as far as to pull out prototanks on an already breaking team, and you wonder why ppl say **** it, im out.
There really isn't any answer to the problem, if you treat every pub match like its PC, capping the point and pushing the enemy to the redline in the first 2 mins, people are gunna leave and play a match that isn't completely pointless, and you've only got your own epicness to blame for it :)
Might I make a suggestion;
Yesterday, I was on the stomped side of a redline match. I just threw down some nanohives and kept chucking cores over a wall at the enemy camping my redline. After about 10 minutes of them getting ****** up from cores, they backed right the hell off.
KEQ Diplomat
Gallente Loyalist ... Come at me bro.
A grenade to the head will most certainly get you dead.
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CUSE TOWN333
Ancient Exiles.
3
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Posted - 2015.08.19 14:31:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:Personally I only leave battle when its one of the lag inducing maps that become unplayble for me after about 2 mins, you can't blame anyone for not bothering to play those maps, for many the frame rate drops to less than 1.
As frustrating as it is, I can't blame solo players for quitting when they see a well known stomping squad on the otherside, playing against some of you people just isn't fun. You gang bang the **** out of everyone in the game going as far as to pull out prototanks on an already breaking team, and you wonder why ppl say **** it, im out.
There really isn't any answer to the problem, if you treat every pub match like its PC, capping the point and pushing the enemy to the redline in the first 2 mins, people are gunna leave and play a match that isn't completely pointless, and you've only got your own epicness to blame for it :) ask yourself this whats better never getting stomped by leaveing or running or never learning to get better and becomeing a future stomper?
If you run your only going to die tired.
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Starlight Burner
Vader's-Fist
419
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Posted - 2015.08.19 14:32:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote: there is no shame in staying in battle and haveing a bad game it probably will tuffen you up. and its not only the new player but vets to. i understand no one can make you fight but ask yourself why play the game in the first place.
- I can't make money by throwing myself at the enemy.
- I will lose more than I would gain.
- Satisfaction of staying in a losing battle, doesn't do **** besides street creed. How am I gonna fund my war against Gallente maggots in Faction Warfare?
- Why fight a battle that is a loss?
Boom ^
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CUSE TOWN333
Ancient Exiles.
3
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Posted - 2015.08.19 14:43:00 -
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Starlight Burner wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote: there is no shame in staying in battle and haveing a bad game it probably will tuffen you up. and its not only the new player but vets to. i understand no one can make you fight but ask yourself why play the game in the first place.
- I can't make money by throwing myself at the enemy.
- I will lose more than I would gain.
- Satisfaction of staying in a losing battle, doesn't do **** besides street creed. How am I gonna fund my war against Gallente maggots in Faction Warfare?
- Why fight a battle that is a loss?
Boom ^ ok prime example right here ^ your corporation has the goal to take 100% of MH in PC. now ask yourself if you keep leaveing battle and never testing yourself when you go to launch a attack in PC how many districts do you think you will flip? your CEO should have installed this knowledge to you because 501st will stay and fight i know this.
If you run your only going to die tired.
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Beld Errmon
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Posted - 2015.08.19 14:45:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:Personally I only leave battle when its one of the lag inducing maps that become unplayble for me after about 2 mins, you can't blame anyone for not bothering to play those maps, for many the frame rate drops to less than 1.
As frustrating as it is, I can't blame solo players for quitting when they see a well known stomping squad on the otherside, playing against some of you people just isn't fun. You gang bang the **** out of everyone in the game going as far as to pull out prototanks on an already breaking team, and you wonder why ppl say **** it, im out.
There really isn't any answer to the problem, if you treat every pub match like its PC, capping the point and pushing the enemy to the redline in the first 2 mins, people are gunna leave and play a match that isn't completely pointless, and you've only got your own epicness to blame for it :) ask yourself this whats better never getting stomped by leaveing or running or never learning to get better and becomeing a future stomper?
yeah, I play battles till the end even when they suck, I'm putting forward what i imagine is the average leavers point of view, so you can go convince them that you kicking them repeatably in the balls will make them better players. Frankly the only thing a person is going to learn from trying to fight back outnumbered while being redlined is:
You might as well leave because the moment they scan you 6 ppl are gunna run you down and compete with each other for your kill, if you manage to kill one of them while they focus fire on you, you've done well son much E honour.
Assault Dropship Pilot
Semi-Retired Closed Bittervet
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Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
164
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Posted - 2015.08.19 14:48:00 -
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Starlight Burner wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote: there is no shame in staying in battle and haveing a bad game it probably will tuffen you up. and its not only the new player but vets to. i understand no one can make you fight but ask yourself why play the game in the first place.
- I can't make money by throwing myself at the enemy.
- I will lose more than I would gain.
- Satisfaction of staying in a losing battle, doesn't do **** besides street creed. How am I gonna fund my war against Gallente maggots in Faction Warfare?
- Why fight a battle that is a loss?
Boom ^
Do you need a BPO suit? I can hook you up if you do. I'm sitting on a ton that I don't need/don't use. I'll even give you one for free lol
KEQ Diplomat
Gallente Loyalist ... Come at me bro.
A grenade to the head will most certainly get you dead.
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CUSE TOWN333
Ancient Exiles.
3
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Posted - 2015.08.19 14:51:00 -
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ok instead of trying to shame people for not fighting cause that never worked. lets honor the people that do stay in hopes new players will want to grow up one day to be like them. everyone list players you see that never give up i will start. 501st, Masha Mario, D4GGER, TheDick, Alcina, Ari, Summer Salt, Thor, Mortisha from glory.
If you run your only going to die tired.
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Henrietta Unknown
Corrosive Synergy No Context
1
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Posted - 2015.08.19 14:52:00 -
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E honor? Lol. And if fighting hopeless battles made you more experienced, then what have the blueberries been doing all this time? The ones who once went 10+ deaths and still do?
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Beld Errmon
2
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Posted - 2015.08.19 14:53:00 -
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Alcina Nektaria wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:Personally I only leave battle when its one of the lag inducing maps that become unplayble for me after about 2 mins, you can't blame anyone for not bothering to play those maps, for many the frame rate drops to less than 1.
As frustrating as it is, I can't blame solo players for quitting when they see a well known stomping squad on the otherside, playing against some of you people just isn't fun. You gang bang the **** out of everyone in the game going as far as to pull out prototanks on an already breaking team, and you wonder why ppl say **** it, im out.
There really isn't any answer to the problem, if you treat every pub match like its PC, capping the point and pushing the enemy to the redline in the first 2 mins, people are gunna leave and play a match that isn't completely pointless, and you've only got your own epicness to blame for it :) Might I make a suggestion; Yesterday, I was on the stomped side of a redline match. I just threw down some nanohives and kept chucking cores over a wall at the enemy camping my redline. After about 10 minutes of them getting ****** up from cores, they backed right the hell off.
No because I don't need your suggestions, I don't fight from the redline, I get my dropship and I skirmish the enemy team till they get so pissed off at me that they circle jerk on a roof while spamming missiles and forge at me.
Assault Dropship Pilot
Semi-Retired Closed Bittervet
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Starlight Burner
Vader's-Fist
420
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Posted - 2015.08.19 14:55:00 -
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Alcina Nektaria wrote: Do you need a BPO suit? I can hook you up if you do. I'm sitting on a ton that I don't need/don't use. I'll even give you one for free lol
I have plenty of BPOs. I was just stating reasons I wouldn't stay in battle. Also, just because I have a BPO and could still fight, doesn't make the game anymore fun than it already isn't.
Getting your face stomped in after so many times, makes you quit the game. Hence the low population this game has along with many other negative features.
No one likes getting their **** kicked in for the majority of their play time.
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Hawkings Greenback
Dead Man's Game
385
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Posted - 2015.08.19 14:58:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:It's a joke at this stage.. between fggts checking leaderboard and leaving before even deploying and KDR padders giving up if it looks like they may have to sacrifice their precious stats to push an objective, it's pretty damn boring.
Add in the NPC freshies that have no Corp support Minus the few that RQ because they want to solo a squad based game
= Fun for All \o/
Me : what shall I do this evening ??
PS3 : play DUST 514 man, it could be better than last time !!!
Me : F u c k it, go on then.
PS3 breathes to life. DUST loads.
Me : Lets get into a squad.
Joins squad
Gets **** pushed in hard by multiple tryhards
PS3/DUST : ( sounds of laughter )
Me : Meh, still the same
Drops controller down couch, watches anime / p0rn / netflix then goes to bed
"Forum Lurker" since 2012
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Starlight Burner
Vader's-Fist
421
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:00:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote: ok prime example right here. your corporation has the goal to take 100% of MH in PC. now ask yourself if you keep leaveing battle and never testing yourself when you go to launch a attack in PC how many districts do you think you will flip? your CEO should have installed this knowledge to you because 501st will stay and fight i know this.
I'm a CP worker. Don't PC unless I have to. Again, how am I going to fund my war against Gallente Scum in Factional Warfare, if all I'm getting is 130k isk for a **** match and take a loss in isk.
Okay what about my BPOs? The fk would I continue to sit through frustration for to make 130k isk for?
CEO of Arrary of Clusters, a close relations corporation
Caldari Factional Warfare, enlist today!
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Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
166
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:03:00 -
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Starlight Burner wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote: ok prime example right here. your corporation has the goal to take 100% of MH in PC. now ask yourself if you keep leaveing battle and never testing yourself when you go to launch a attack in PC how many districts do you think you will flip? your CEO should have installed this knowledge to you because 501st will stay and fight i know this.
I'm a CP worker. Don't PC unless I have to. Again, how am I going to fund my war against Gallente Scum in Factional Warfare, if all I'm getting is 130k isk for a **** match and take a loss in isk. Okay what about my BPOs? The fk would I continue to sit through frustration for to make 130k isk for?
I mean....I'm a decent player, certainly not the best or worst, though I'm like the upper middle class. I average at least 410k a match even when I get stomped so you must be pretty bad if you're only getting 130k.......
KEQ Diplomat
Gallente Loyalist ... Come at me bro.
A grenade to the head will most certainly get you dead.
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Starlight Burner
Vader's-Fist
421
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:06:00 -
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Alcina Nektaria wrote: I average at least 410k a match even when I get stomped so you must be pretty bad if you're only getting 130k....... I average at least 410k a match even when I get stomped ^ This is a joke.
so you must be pretty bad if you're only getting 130k....... ^ This is a insult and rude. Also, I'm not bad. I make my appearance known on the leaderboards. Especially in Faction Warfare against Gallente supporters.
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Caldari Factional Warfare, enlist today!
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Beld Errmon
2
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:11:00 -
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I wonder if some of you see how bad some of these battles get, one match I was in tonight, my team was redlined in the first couple of mins, by the end of the match the enemy team had 5 tanks guarding the redline, how can you expect people to keep trying in the face of that kinda buggery? (on a side note one of those tanks made the mistake of straying away from his stompy mates and I taught him that the railbus is lethal to shield tanks *smirk*)
Assault Dropship Pilot
Semi-Retired Closed Bittervet
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Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
168
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:13:00 -
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Starlight Burner wrote:Alcina Nektaria wrote: I average at least 410k a match even when I get stomped so you must be pretty bad if you're only getting 130k....... I average at least 410k a match even when I get stomped
^ This is a joke. so you must be pretty bad if you're only getting 130k.......^ This is a insult and rude. Also, I'm not bad. I make my appearance known on the leaderboards. Especially in Faction Warfare against Gallente supporters.
no not a joke, i assure you. also just an observation. even on a stomped end of a match my wp value is 1500+ (most of the time) it happens when you actually PUSH and don't give up. that's what gameplay looks like
KEQ Diplomat
Gallente Loyalist ... Come at me bro.
A grenade to the head will most certainly get you dead.
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VAHZZ
Vader's-Fist
7
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:16:00 -
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Alcina Nektaria wrote:Starlight Burner wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote: there is no shame in staying in battle and haveing a bad game it probably will tuffen you up. and its not only the new player but vets to. i understand no one can make you fight but ask yourself why play the game in the first place.
- I can't make money by throwing myself at the enemy.
- I will lose more than I would gain.
- Satisfaction of staying in a losing battle, doesn't do **** besides street creed. How am I gonna fund my war against Gallente maggots in Faction Warfare?
- Why fight a battle that is a loss?
Boom ^ Do you need a BPO suit? I can hook you up if you do. I'm sitting on a ton that I don't need/don't use. I'll even give you one for free lol I HEARD FREE! Free? You give free?
Director of Vader's Fist
I survived Survivor
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Starlight Burner
Vader's-Fist
421
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:16:00 -
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Alcina Nektaria wrote:no not a joke, i assure you. also just an observation. even on a stomped end of a match my wp value is 1500+ (most of the time) it happens when you actually PUSH and don't give up. that's what gameplay looks like Observation my ass. This ain't the War Room so **** talking each other ain't really needed.
Nonetheless, The majority of players will not fight a match or continue fighting a match just for bragging rights or street creed. It's not a opinion but a fact that the risk / reward system is not worth enough value to continue trying.
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Caldari Factional Warfare, enlist today!
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VAHZZ
Vader's-Fist
7
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:18:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Starlight Burner wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote: there is no shame in staying in battle and haveing a bad game it probably will tuffen you up. and its not only the new player but vets to. i understand no one can make you fight but ask yourself why play the game in the first place.
- I can't make money by throwing myself at the enemy.
- I will lose more than I would gain.
- Satisfaction of staying in a losing battle, doesn't do **** besides street creed. How am I gonna fund my war against Gallente maggots in Faction Warfare?
- Why fight a battle that is a loss?
Boom ^ ok prime example right here ^ your corporation has the goal to take 100% of MH in PC. now ask yourself if you keep leaveing battle and never testing yourself when you go to launch a attack in PC how many districts do you think you will flip? your CEO should have installed this knowledge to you because 501st will stay and fight i know this.
501st and VAHZZ stay no matter what. I despise leaving a battle, unless my girl or fam pop in.
I am a little disheartened to hear some of my corpmates are dipping, I am going to have to get a little more insane on them apparently.
Director of Vader's Fist
I survived Survivor
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Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
168
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:18:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:Alcina Nektaria wrote: Do you need a BPO suit? I can hook you up if you do. I'm sitting on a ton that I don't need/don't use. I'll even give you one for free lol
I HEARD FREE! Free? You give free?
I will give you a free one because you are you. What do you want?
Standard: C-1 Assault C-1 Scout G-1 Assault G-1 Scout G-1 Commando M-1 Commando M-1 Logi (I think) A-1 Sentinel A-1 Scout (I think)
I'm not able to check right this second, there may be more and I have multiples. Just let me know what you want
KEQ Diplomat
Gallente Loyalist ... Come at me bro.
A grenade to the head will most certainly get you dead.
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CUSE TOWN333
Ancient Exiles.
3
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:19:00 -
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Starlight Burner wrote:Alcina Nektaria wrote: I average at least 410k a match even when I get stomped so you must be pretty bad if you're only getting 130k....... I average at least 410k a match even when I get stomped
^ This is a joke. so you must be pretty bad if you're only getting 130k.......^ This is a insult and rude. Also, I'm not bad. I make my appearance known on the leaderboards. Especially in Faction Warfare against Gallente supporters. this was not a attack on your abilities friend. we are just trying to encourage you to fight.
If you run your only going to die tired.
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Balistyc Farshot
MONSTER SYNERGY
347
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:20:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:I wonder if some of you see how bad some of these battles get, one match I was in tonight, my team was redlined in the first couple of mins, by the end of the match the enemy team had 5 tanks guarding the redline, how can you expect people to keep trying in the face of that kinda buggery? (on a side note one of those tanks made the mistake of straying away from his stompy mates and I taught him that the railbus is lethal to shield tanks *smirk*)
See, you don't understand that you need to change the drive for victory. Your new victory should be bleeding your enemy. I would have eaten all 5 tanks then laughed at them. Or you zip around behind them, drop a ton of Proxies and poke hack the letter then hide. When the tanks race to get the point back they hit the proxies. I love vehicle stompers because they make it easy to know how to strike them back. What really sucks is when you have a team of quitters who start throwing themselves at the meat grinder while someone like me sneaks around, takes the point and draws back the whole other team for a good old 15 v 1 (That gets me off seeing them come at me like that.) The problem is the blues are so disheartened at that point that they don't know they need to push then.
"Dying with your rep tool out - the logi-flasher!"
Who hasn't been caught by a cute little female scout doing this?
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
816
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:22:00 -
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Maybe if the matches didn't lag to hell even in Pubs more people would be inclined to stay and actually try to carry. |
Beld Errmon
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:22:00 -
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Alcina Nektaria wrote:Starlight Burner wrote:Alcina Nektaria wrote: I average at least 410k a match even when I get stomped so you must be pretty bad if you're only getting 130k....... I average at least 410k a match even when I get stomped
^ This is a joke. so you must be pretty bad if you're only getting 130k.......^ This is a insult and rude. Also, I'm not bad. I make my appearance known on the leaderboards. Especially in Faction Warfare against Gallente supporters. no not a joke, i assure you. also just an observation. even on a stomped end of a match my wp value is 1500+ (most of the time) it happens when you actually PUSH and don't give up. that's what gameplay looks like
Yeah its not hard to get WPs, if you do something other than run a std assault suit into battle, I can make 1500 off a few well placed uplinks and scratch my arse in the sky watching for the rest of the match, but some dude with the bare basics in the game needs to hack and shoot stuff to get anywhere, pretty hard to do when you've gotta run 200m before getting stomped.
I've got a birds eye view of a lot of these matches, I've watched as a couple of guys spawn on an uplink i've placed behind the redline blockade, half the enemy team sprints back there kills the 3 daring souls that spawned and quickly take out the link (if its one i couldn't place somewhere hard to get to without a dropship) then its straight back to the redline to whinge about boring games where people only snipe.
Guess my point is people are getting the games they deserve through their lack of valor.
Assault Dropship Pilot
Semi-Retired Closed Bittervet
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DUST Fiend
17
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:25:00 -
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Only a sad no life try hard tries hard in a dead end game with no future lmfao. I never leave unless I'm dropped, but I don't blame people for not wanting to get farmed in lagville
I am a beautiful space manatee, flying through the sky with the greatest of ease
Swarms everywhere.
WoD 514
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Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
168
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:27:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote: Guess my point is people are getting the games they deserve through their lack of valor.
I agree, people who leave battles deserve to be put in ones where they get stomped.
KEQ Diplomat
Gallente Loyalist ... Come at me bro.
A grenade to the head will most certainly get you dead.
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VAHZZ
Vader's-Fist
7
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:30:00 -
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Alcina Nektaria wrote:VAHZZ wrote:Alcina Nektaria wrote: Do you need a BPO suit? I can hook you up if you do. I'm sitting on a ton that I don't need/don't use. I'll even give you one for free lol
I HEARD FREE! Free? You give free? I will give you a free one because you are you. What do you want? Standard: C-1 Assault C-1 Scout G-1 Assault G-1 Scout G-1 Commando M-1 Commando M-1 Logi (I think) A-1 Sentinel A-1 Scout (I think) I'm not able to check right this second, there may be more and I have multiples. Just let me know what you want
G-I Scout. Been a GalScout since beta.
Director of Vader's Fist
I survived Survivor
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Beld Errmon
2
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:31:00 -
[37] - Quote
Balistyc Farshot wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:I wonder if some of you see how bad some of these battles get, one match I was in tonight, my team was redlined in the first couple of mins, by the end of the match the enemy team had 5 tanks guarding the redline, how can you expect people to keep trying in the face of that kinda buggery? (on a side note one of those tanks made the mistake of straying away from his stompy mates and I taught him that the railbus is lethal to shield tanks *smirk*) See, you don't understand that you need to change the drive for victory. Your new victory should be bleeding your enemy. I would have eaten all 5 tanks then laughed at them. Or you zip around behind them, drop a ton of Proxies and poke hack the letter then hide. When the tanks race to get the point back they hit the proxies. I love vehicle stompers because they make it easy to know how to strike them back. What really sucks is when you have a team of quitters who start throwing themselves at the meat grinder while someone like me sneaks around, takes the point and draws back the whole other team for a good old 15 v 1 (That gets me off seeing them come at me like that.) The problem is the blues are so disheartened at that point that they don't know they need to push then.
alright guess i need to say it again, i'm advocating a point of view i don't share, I stay in battles and I fight hard in the face of stupid odds, but what I am trying to do is demonstrate empathy which is a concept some the autists and assbergernaughts here clearly can't grasp.
But thanks for the proxy tip, that actually sounds cunning and I may try it.
Assault Dropship Pilot
Semi-Retired Closed Bittervet
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Starlight Burner
Vader's-Fist
421
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:31:00 -
[38] - Quote
CUSE TOWN333 wrote: this was not a attack on your abilities friend. we are just trying to encourage you to fight.
I fight and so do a LOT of other players; HOWEVER, when the main player body of DUST that funds CCP can NOT enjoy a game without getting their face stomped in for 70% of their matches, they will quit. Should they like the game and continue playing it, just like any other gamer in any lobby, if I'm playing for enjoyment or some sort of ' fun ' factor, staying in that match will not bring me enjoyment.
Unfortunately, casual or non-competitive gamers are the larger body of gamers now. They do not want to feel challenged all the time. They would just like to play the game for the seek of fun during their leisure time. Why on earth would they play through frustration only to continue to get no where or with minimal gain?
That is why games have multiple game modes that encourage competitive play, casual lobby play, or straight out PvE fun. If DUST had a game mode where lesser challenging seeking players can play and eventually move onwards to higher risk / reward game modes, that will fix the leaving matches probability or at least encourage them to try different tactics than check scoreboard for known names / corps and leave.
It's a combination of players, developers, publisher and console choice for the game. I don't blame people who leave except people I know who are skilled in some way to put up some competition.
CEO of Arrary of Clusters, a close relations corporation
Caldari Factional Warfare, enlist today!
Thank you for DUST
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Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
170
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:33:00 -
[39] - Quote
VAHZZ wrote:Alcina Nektaria wrote:VAHZZ wrote:Alcina Nektaria wrote: Do you need a BPO suit? I can hook you up if you do. I'm sitting on a ton that I don't need/don't use. I'll even give you one for free lol
I HEARD FREE! Free? You give free? I will give you a free one because you are you. What do you want? Standard: C-1 Assault C-1 Scout G-1 Assault G-1 Scout G-1 Commando M-1 Commando M-1 Logi (I think) A-1 Sentinel A-1 Scout (I think) I'm not able to check right this second, there may be more and I have multiples. Just let me know what you want G-I Scout. Been a GalScout since beta.
I'll send it over later when I'm home.
KEQ Diplomat
Gallente Loyalist ... Come at me bro.
A grenade to the head will most certainly get you dead.
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Beld Errmon
2
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:35:00 -
[40] - Quote
Alcina Nektaria wrote:Beld Errmon wrote: Guess my point is people are getting the games they deserve through their lack of valor. I agree, people who leave battles deserve to be put in ones where they get stomped.
Yes, where they'll leave another squad of stompets sexually frustrated on the redline, losing protosuits to untouchable snipers, everyone wins!
Assault Dropship Pilot
Semi-Retired Closed Bittervet
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Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
170
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:38:00 -
[41] - Quote
Beld Errmon wrote:Alcina Nektaria wrote:Beld Errmon wrote: Guess my point is people are getting the games they deserve through their lack of valor. I agree, people who leave battles deserve to be put in ones where they get stomped. Yes, where they'll leave another squad of stompets sexually frustrated on the redline, losing protosuits to untouchable snipers, everyone wins!
There's always a counter. It just requires basic intelligence to pull off. The game won't get better by people sitting in their mother's basements QQing over every little match.
KEQ Diplomat
Gallente Loyalist ... Come at me bro.
A grenade to the head will most certainly get you dead.
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
817
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:40:00 -
[42] - Quote
Beld Errmon wrote:Alcina Nektaria wrote:Beld Errmon wrote: Guess my point is people are getting the games they deserve through their lack of valor. I agree, people who leave battles deserve to be put in ones where they get stomped. Yes, where they'll leave another squad of stompets sexually frustrated on the redline, losing protosuits to untouchable snipers, everyone wins! The real discussion should be the removal of the redline. |
Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
817
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:42:00 -
[43] - Quote
Alcina Nektaria wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:Alcina Nektaria wrote:Beld Errmon wrote: Guess my point is people are getting the games they deserve through their lack of valor. I agree, people who leave battles deserve to be put in ones where they get stomped. Yes, where they'll leave another squad of stompets sexually frustrated on the redline, losing protosuits to untouchable snipers, everyone wins! There's always a counter. It just requires basic intelligence to pull off. The game won't get better by people sitting in their mother's basements QQing over every little match. The counter to red-line sniping is to do the exact same thing back at them - return snipe.
That's not a proper counter.
#RemoveTheRedLine |
Beld Errmon
2
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:43:00 -
[44] - Quote
Shadowed Cola wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:Alcina Nektaria wrote:Beld Errmon wrote: Guess my point is people are getting the games they deserve through their lack of valor. I agree, people who leave battles deserve to be put in ones where they get stomped. Yes, where they'll leave another squad of stompets sexually frustrated on the redline, losing protosuits to untouchable snipers, everyone wins! The real discussion should be the removal of the redline.
I agree, remove it and bring in a mechanic that accelerates the damage a redlined teams MCC takes, matches take too long and can rarely be turned around from these routs.
Assault Dropship Pilot
Semi-Retired Closed Bittervet
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Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
170
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:44:00 -
[45] - Quote
Shadowed Cola wrote:Alcina Nektaria wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:Alcina Nektaria wrote:Beld Errmon wrote: Guess my point is people are getting the games they deserve through their lack of valor. I agree, people who leave battles deserve to be put in ones where they get stomped. Yes, where they'll leave another squad of stompets sexually frustrated on the redline, losing protosuits to untouchable snipers, everyone wins! There's always a counter. It just requires basic intelligence to pull off. The game won't get better by people sitting in their mother's basements QQing over every little match. The counter to red-line sniping is to do the exact same thing back at them - return snipe. That's not a proper counter. #RemoveTheRedLine
Agreed, remove redline. As far as countering, there's more than countersniping. I personally like to go drop a dropship on them, or hop out and sacrifice myself to kill them.
KEQ Diplomat
Gallente Loyalist ... Come at me bro.
A grenade to the head will most certainly get you dead.
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
817
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:44:00 -
[46] - Quote
Beld Errmon wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:Alcina Nektaria wrote:Beld Errmon wrote: Guess my point is people are getting the games they deserve through their lack of valor. I agree, people who leave battles deserve to be put in ones where they get stomped. Yes, where they'll leave another squad of stompets sexually frustrated on the redline, losing protosuits to untouchable snipers, everyone wins! The real discussion should be the removal of the redline. I agree, remove it and bring in a mechanic that accelerates the damage a redlined teams MCC takes, matches take too long and can rarely be turned around from these routs. Just give the enemy MCC a few turrets to make camping useless |
LOL KILLZ
LulKlz
306
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:48:00 -
[47] - Quote
Alcina Nektaria wrote:Starlight Burner wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote: there is no shame in staying in battle and haveing a bad game it probably will tuffen you up. and its not only the new player but vets to. i understand no one can make you fight but ask yourself why play the game in the first place.
- I can't make money by throwing myself at the enemy.
- I will lose more than I would gain.
- Satisfaction of staying in a losing battle, doesn't do **** besides street creed. How am I gonna fund my war against Gallente maggots in Faction Warfare?
- Why fight a battle that is a loss?
Boom ^ Do you need a BPO suit? I can hook you up if you do. I'm sitting on a ton that I don't need/don't use. I'll even give you one for free lol **** you giving them away? I'm missing an assault and commando BPO. Hook it up
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Beld Errmon
2
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:48:00 -
[48] - Quote
We've gotta think small, the dev team thats left can't do much to the game these days, its just in "profit" mode now, once the profit is too small to bother with they'll pull the plug.
Assault Dropship Pilot
Semi-Retired Closed Bittervet
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Diablo Gamekeeper
Corrosive Synergy No Context
583
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:51:00 -
[49] - Quote
Starlight Burner wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote: there is no shame in staying in battle and haveing a bad game it probably will tuffen you up. and its not only the new player but vets to. i understand no one can make you fight but ask yourself why play the game in the first place.
- I can't make money by throwing myself at the enemy.
- I will lose more than I would gain.
- Satisfaction of staying in a losing battle, doesn't do **** besides street creed. How am I gonna fund my war against Gallente maggots in Faction Warfare?
- Why fight a battle that is a loss?
Boom ^ how is the "taking over molden heath" going?
I'm back
Rainbow Dash
I have DESTROYED CCP Rattati
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Darken-Sol
Darken's Forge and Trade
2
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:54:00 -
[50] - Quote
CUSE TOWN333 wrote:since i have come back to this game i have noticed a horrible playerbase that has no fight in them whatsoever. 5min into every match and people are leaveing battle or running to the redline to grab their sniper rifle. bluedots leaveing battle redots leaveing battle dafuq u running to? there is no shame in staying in battle and haveing a bad game it probably will tuffen you up. and its not only the new player but vets to. i understand no one can make you fight but ask yourself why play the game in the first place. props to Summer Salt from Molon Labe who stayed in a battle after Sax and the rest just rage quit.
Go fight for gallente if you want good fights. Or to understand why people leave and quit.
Crush them
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Starlight Burner
Vader's-Fist
422
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:57:00 -
[51] - Quote
Diablo Gamekeeper wrote: how is the "taking over molden heath" going?
Progress is being made.
Your link in your signature isn't working.
Fix it.
CEO of Arrary of Clusters, a close relations corporation
Caldari Factional Warfare, enlist today!
Thank you for DUST
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Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
170
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Posted - 2015.08.19 15:59:00 -
[52] - Quote
LOL KILLZ wrote:Alcina Nektaria wrote:Do you need a BPO suit? I can hook you up if you do. I'm sitting on a ton that I don't need/don't use. I'll even give you one for free lol **** you giving them away? I'm missing an assault and commando BPO. Hook it up What race? I just want them out of my inventory tbh
KEQ Diplomat
Gallente Loyalist ... Come at me bro.
A grenade to the head will most certainly get you dead.
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General Mosquito
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
344
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Posted - 2015.08.19 16:00:00 -
[53] - Quote
Why are people surprised when a casual lobby shooter doesn't draw in competitive players?
Even most of the so called competitive players all zerg to the same corps rather than get a challenge.
Risk aversion has been beaten into the very heart of this game.
The Attorney General - Mr. Hybrid Vayu
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CUSE TOWN333
Ancient Exiles.
3
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Posted - 2015.08.19 16:10:00 -
[54] - Quote
Darken-Sol wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:since i have come back to this game i have noticed a horrible playerbase that has no fight in them whatsoever. 5min into every match and people are leaveing battle or running to the redline to grab their sniper rifle. bluedots leaveing battle redots leaveing battle dafuq u running to? there is no shame in staying in battle and haveing a bad game it probably will tuffen you up. and its not only the new player but vets to. i understand no one can make you fight but ask yourself why play the game in the first place. props to Summer Salt from Molon Labe who stayed in a battle after Sax and the rest just rage quit. Go fight for gallente if you want good fights. Or to understand why people leave and quit. i did and i see what you mean but still.....
If you run your only going to die tired.
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LOL KILLZ
LulKlz
309
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Posted - 2015.08.19 16:18:00 -
[55] - Quote
Alcina Nektaria wrote:LOL KILLZ wrote:Alcina Nektaria wrote:Do you need a BPO suit? I can hook you up if you do. I'm sitting on a ton that I don't need/don't use. I'll even give you one for free lol **** you giving them away? I'm missing an assault and commando BPO. Hook it up What race? I just want them out of my inventory tbh Amarr. I'll also take anything caldari
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
818
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Posted - 2015.08.19 16:18:00 -
[56] - Quote
General Mosquito wrote:Why are people surprised when a casual lobby shooter doesn't draw in competitive players?
Even most of the so called competitive players all zerg to the same corps rather than get a challenge.
Risk aversion has been beaten into the very heart of this game. This is exactly correct - there's no reason to be competitive in Dust anymore with the care-bear mechanics and intense lag everywhere you go.
Apex ruined the Risk vs Reward that flavored Dust to be something more then an FPS - every year we generally go down the path of CoD - free **** for everyone to spam until the FOTM changes. |
7th Son 7
Hakuna Matatah Inc
1
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Posted - 2015.08.19 16:32:00 -
[57] - Quote
I would like to add, a lot of these Corps that squad up and go into pubs have two pretty big advantages over a team. First, a lot of these Corps that come into pubs have PC money and second their on comms when our team is not. So they can afford to use the best equipment to stay competitive. You mentioned APEX suits Cuse, but how many pc's do you fight in with APEX ? Yes you can do it, which I have it just get's old watching your team redlined from the jump even if you manage to break even and/or go positive.
Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ----- OSHO
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Taeyeon Seyun
DUST University Ivy League
144
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Posted - 2015.08.19 17:27:00 -
[58] - Quote
Alcina Nektaria wrote:VAHZZ wrote:Alcina Nektaria wrote: Do you need a BPO suit? I can hook you up if you do. I'm sitting on a ton that I don't need/don't use. I'll even give you one for free lol
I HEARD FREE! Free? You give free? I will give you a free one because you are you. What do you want? Standard: C-1 Assault C-1 Scout G-1 Assault G-1 Scout G-1 Commando M-1 Commando M-1 Logi (I think) A-1 Sentinel A-1 Scout (I think) I'm not able to check right this second, there may be more and I have multiples. Just let me know what you want
My main can give the A-1 sent a good home. ^.^ Her name is Mizuki Nozumi. I don't mind being stomped. I mainly play skirm and FW ans I noticed that redline matches don't happen as much as Dom. I usually am in a corp squad, so we are having fun no matter what. We are also learning from being stomped. After a hard fought fw we will discuss things we noticed the other team doing, and pick things out to work on. We learn and grow from it.
* Cupcake enthusiast *
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CUSE TOWN333
Ancient Exiles.
3
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Posted - 2015.08.19 17:48:00 -
[59] - Quote
7th Son 7 wrote:I would like to add, a lot of these Corps that squad up and go into pubs have two pretty big advantages over a team. First, a lot of these Corps that come into pubs have PC money and second their on comms when our team is not. So they can afford to use the best equipment to stay competitive. You mentioned APEX suits Cuse, but how many pc's do you fight in with APEX ? Yes you can do it, which I have it just get's old watching your team redlined from the jump even if you manage to break even and/or go positive. i don't really have any Apex suits besides the gallente scout that im not even skilled into any more
If you run your only going to die tired.
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Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
174
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Posted - 2015.08.19 17:50:00 -
[60] - Quote
CUSE TOWN333 wrote: i don't really have any Apex suits besides the gallente scout that im not even skilled into any more
That makes me sad....I want that damn suit.
KEQ Diplomat
Gallente Loyalist ... Come at me bro.
A grenade to the head will most certainly get you dead.
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CUSE TOWN333
Ancient Exiles.
3
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Posted - 2015.08.19 17:54:00 -
[61] - Quote
Alcina Nektaria wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote: i don't really have any Apex suits besides the gallente scout that im not even skilled into any more That makes me sad....I want that damn suit. you want the only thing i have left cruel women go away
If you run your only going to die tired.
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Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
174
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Posted - 2015.08.19 17:58:00 -
[62] - Quote
CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Alcina Nektaria wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote: i don't really have any Apex suits besides the gallente scout that im not even skilled into any more That makes me sad....I want that damn suit. you want the only thing i have left cruel women go away
but but but...... you can't resist this
KEQ Diplomat
Gallente Loyalist ... Come at me bro.
A grenade to the head will most certainly get you dead.
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
2
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Posted - 2015.08.19 18:11:00 -
[63] - Quote
At this point their mentality won't change I guess.
By leaving and not taking the challenge you are not going anywhere. However, difficulty of this challenge is too much in most cases. Small playerbase divided by many queue variations = bad matchamking
Modern society is lacking in empathy
Pole from flesh and bones
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
3
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Posted - 2015.08.19 18:14:00 -
[64] - Quote
CUSE TOWN333 wrote:since i have come back to this game i have noticed a horrible playerbase that has no fight in them whatsoever. 5min into every match and people are leaveing battle or running to the redline to grab their sniper rifle. bluedots leaveing battle redots leaveing battle dafuq u running to? there is no shame in staying in battle and haveing a bad game it probably will tuffen you up. and its not only the new player but vets to. i understand no one can make you fight but ask yourself why play the game in the first place. props to Summer Salt from Molon Labe who stayed in a battle after Sax and the rest just rage quit.
You damn well know that does not apply to me. Not saying that my Zerg like ways are at all tactical but I get in there dont I!
P.S
You left us again!? Guess its time to find a new corp. My loyalty is expended, besides I think most of the guys I joined KEQ with have all left now.
"Madness how we turned our common-ground into a battle-ground.." - Essa
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Edgar Reinhart
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
131
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Posted - 2015.08.19 18:20:00 -
[65] - Quote
Alcina Nektaria wrote:VAHZZ wrote:Alcina Nektaria wrote: Do you need a BPO suit? I can hook you up if you do. I'm sitting on a ton that I don't need/don't use. I'll even give you one for free lol
I HEARD FREE! Free? You give free? I will give you a free one because you are you. What do you want? Standard: C-1 Assault C-1 Scout G-1 Assault G-1 Scout G-1 Commando M-1 Commando M-1 Logi (I think) A-1 Sentinel A-1 Scout (I think) I'm not able to check right this second, there may be more and I have multiples. Just let me know what you want
I'm going to be cheeky, nip in here and say that I could always give a Gal Assault a good home. I would be my first BPO so I'm not 100% sure how to care for it but I'm sure I would love it and hug it and call it George. |
Patrick57
10
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Posted - 2015.08.19 18:22:00 -
[66] - Quote
Starlight Burner wrote:
- I can't make money by throwing myself at the enemy.
- I will lose more than I would gain.
just run a standard or cheap suit dude. you don't need to run advanced or proto all the time
http://i.imgur.com/QGx5fQH.gifv
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
3
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Posted - 2015.08.19 18:23:00 -
[67] - Quote
Darken-Sol wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:since i have come back to this game i have noticed a horrible playerbase that has no fight in them whatsoever. 5min into every match and people are leaveing battle or running to the redline to grab their sniper rifle. bluedots leaveing battle redots leaveing battle dafuq u running to? there is no shame in staying in battle and haveing a bad game it probably will tuffen you up. and its not only the new player but vets to. i understand no one can make you fight but ask yourself why play the game in the first place. props to Summer Salt from Molon Labe who stayed in a battle after Sax and the rest just rage quit. Go fight for gallente if you want good fights. Or to understand why people leave and quit.
Can confirm I spent the last week or two doing Gall FW (admittedly solo most of the time) and I got my **** pushed in for two weeks straight near enough.
Did I give up? Hell NO! I accepted the fate and tried to increase my "skills" if you can call them that. But hey I have my lovely looking Gallente Factional Scout skin and I am happy. (Just wish skins would show in the warbarge....)
"Madness how we turned our common-ground into a battle-ground.." - Essa
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Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
175
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Posted - 2015.08.19 18:23:00 -
[68] - Quote
Edgar Reinhart wrote:Alcina Nektaria wrote:VAHZZ wrote:Alcina Nektaria wrote: Do you need a BPO suit? I can hook you up if you do. I'm sitting on a ton that I don't need/don't use. I'll even give you one for free lol
I HEARD FREE! Free? You give free? I will give you a free one because you are you. What do you want? Standard: C-1 Assault C-1 Scout G-1 Assault G-1 Scout G-1 Commando M-1 Commando M-1 Logi (I think) A-1 Sentinel A-1 Scout (I think) I'm not able to check right this second, there may be more and I have multiples. Just let me know what you want I'm going to be cheeky, nip in here and say that I could always give a Gal Assault a good home. I would be my first BPO so I'm not 100% sure how to care for it but I'm sure I would love it and hug it and call it George.
^ lol George. You have won yourself a bpo
KEQ Diplomat
Gallente Loyalist ... Come at me bro.
A grenade to the head will most certainly get you dead.
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Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
175
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Posted - 2015.08.19 18:24:00 -
[69] - Quote
CommanderBolt wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:since i have come back to this game i have noticed a horrible playerbase that has no fight in them whatsoever. 5min into every match and people are leaveing battle or running to the redline to grab their sniper rifle. bluedots leaveing battle redots leaveing battle dafuq u running to? there is no shame in staying in battle and haveing a bad game it probably will tuffen you up. and its not only the new player but vets to. i understand no one can make you fight but ask yourself why play the game in the first place. props to Summer Salt from Molon Labe who stayed in a battle after Sax and the rest just rage quit. Go fight for gallente if you want good fights. Or to understand why people leave and quit. Can confirm I spent the last week or two doing Gall FW (admittedly solo most of the time) and I got my **** pushed in for two weeks straight near enough. Did I give up? Hell NO! I accepted the fate and tried to increase my "skills" if you can call them that. But hey I have my lovely looking Gallente Factional Scout skin and I am happy. (Just wish skins would show in the warbarge....)
Dust User would comment on this with
#honor
KEQ Diplomat
Gallente Loyalist ... Come at me bro.
A grenade to the head will most certainly get you dead.
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VAHZZ
Vader's-Fist
7
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Posted - 2015.08.19 18:25:00 -
[70] - Quote
CommanderBolt wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:since i have come back to this game i have noticed a horrible playerbase that has no fight in them whatsoever. 5min into every match and people are leaveing battle or running to the redline to grab their sniper rifle. bluedots leaveing battle redots leaveing battle dafuq u running to? there is no shame in staying in battle and haveing a bad game it probably will tuffen you up. and its not only the new player but vets to. i understand no one can make you fight but ask yourself why play the game in the first place. props to Summer Salt from Molon Labe who stayed in a battle after Sax and the rest just rage quit. Go fight for gallente if you want good fights. Or to understand why people leave and quit. Can confirm I spent the last week or two doing Gall FW (admittedly solo most of the time) and I got my **** pushed in for two weeks straight near enough. Did I give up? Hell NO! I accepted the fate and tried to increase my "skills" if you can call them that. But hey I have my lovely looking Gallente Factional Scout skin and I am happy. (Just wish skins would show in the warbarge....)
You bought the atrocious looking GalScout LP SKIN? Good lord man. It is generic as hell, the Legacy and Serpentis is the only good looking Gal SKIN.
Director of Vader's Fist
I survived Survivor
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Patrick57
10
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Posted - 2015.08.19 18:26:00 -
[71] - Quote
CommanderBolt wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:since i have come back to this game i have noticed a horrible playerbase that has no fight in them whatsoever. 5min into every match and people are leaveing battle or running to the redline to grab their sniper rifle. bluedots leaveing battle redots leaveing battle dafuq u running to? there is no shame in staying in battle and haveing a bad game it probably will tuffen you up. and its not only the new player but vets to. i understand no one can make you fight but ask yourself why play the game in the first place. props to Summer Salt from Molon Labe who stayed in a battle after Sax and the rest just rage quit. Go fight for gallente if you want good fights. Or to understand why people leave and quit. Can confirm I spent the last week or two doing Gall FW (admittedly solo most of the time) and I got my **** pushed in for two weeks straight near enough. Did I give up? Hell NO! I accepted the fate and tried to increase my "skills" if you can call them that. But hey I have my lovely looking Gallente Factional Scout skin and I am happy. (Just wish skins would show in the warbarge....) Woah are you saying that the caldari are winning? time to farm for the cal logi bpo...
http://i.imgur.com/QGx5fQH.gifv
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Taeyeon Seyun
DUST University Ivy League
144
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Posted - 2015.08.19 18:43:00 -
[72] - Quote
CommanderBolt wrote: Can confirm I spent the last week or two doing Gall FW (admittedly solo most of the time) and I got my **** pushed in for two weeks straight near enough.
Yeah my corp has been running galfw just about everynight the last few nights. It has been rough hehe. Went up againt Cuse Towns squad a few times. But we are holding our own I feel. After a match we will discuss things we noticed the other team doing, and pick things we out for us to work on. Learn more from being stomped than having an easy match I think. I don't mind being stomped. Like I said there are things to learn from if you watch and pay attention to the other team.
* Cupcake enthusiast *
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Denesian Morenti
Horizons' Edge No Context
56
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Posted - 2015.08.19 19:01:00 -
[73] - Quote
LOL KILLZ wrote:When it comes to stomps I find myself whipping out the Apex. Go ahead and kill me. But know this I'll be taking a Proto with me. I used to be a Bonafied badass with a sniper rifle but those days are behind me. It's just so damn boring.
That's how I roll as well. Got an proto suit with a Thales one game with my spartan apex. Took 1 grenade, the entire clip of my toxin AR and some of my side arm, but he fell and I survived.
I like my raspberries melted with a side of ice cream.
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Bremen van Equis
Incorruptibles
644
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Posted - 2015.08.19 19:26:00 -
[74] - Quote
My respect goes to buttlicker mcfatshit. 999th on the all time wins/losses learderboard... with a ratio 2023.48. How he/she achieved that with only 14 kills and a KDR that's worse than mine, I'll never know. But damn, that's a LOT of winning.
Point being, fix the W/L ratio leaderboard to ignore statistically irrelevant mercs, and let's see who's TRYING HARD!!!
Buckle up, boysGǪthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop
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Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
177
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Posted - 2015.08.19 19:35:00 -
[75] - Quote
Bpos sent to: Vahzz - G-1 Scout Mizuki - A-1 Sentinel LOL KILLZ - C-1 Assault & M-1 Commando Edgar - G-1 Assault.
What I have left:
2 C-1 Assaults 2 G-1 Commandos 1 M-1 Commando 1 A-1 Logi 2 M-1 Logis 1 C-1 Scout
KEQ Diplomat
Gallente Loyalist ... Come at me bro.
A grenade to the head will most certainly get you dead.
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
826
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Posted - 2015.08.19 19:44:00 -
[76] - Quote
Alcina Nektaria wrote:Bpos sent to: Vahzz - G-1 Scout Mizuki - A-1 Sentinel LOL KILLZ - C-1 Assault & M-1 Commando Edgar - G-1 Assault.
What I have left:
2 C-1 Assaults 2 G-1 Commandos 1 M-1 Commando 1 A-1 Logi 2 M-1 Logis 1 C-1 Scout No Amarr Commando? :( |
da GAND
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2015.08.19 19:46:00 -
[77] - Quote
Hawkings Greenback wrote:TheD1CK wrote:It's a joke at this stage.. between fggts checking leaderboard and leaving before even deploying and KDR padders giving up if it looks like they may have to sacrifice their precious stats to push an objective, it's pretty damn boring.
Add in the NPC freshies that have no Corp support Minus the few that RQ because they want to solo a squad based game
= Fun for All \o/ Me : what shall I do this evening ?? PS3 : play DUST 514 man, it could be better than last time !!! Me : F u c k it, go on then. PS3 breathes to life. DUST loads. Me : Lets get into a squad. Joins squad Gets **** pushed in hard by multiple tryhards PS3/DUST : ( sounds of laughter ) Me : Meh, still the same Drops controller down couch, watches anime / p0rn / netflix then goes to bed
Mwahahahaha dude ya pretty much the same thing I do just to check the updates but that aint even worth checking the game out anymore because of how frustrating the game quickly becomes. My ps3 just sits in my closet gathering dust LITERALLY.
Time since Legion News
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Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
178
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Posted - 2015.08.19 19:48:00 -
[78] - Quote
Shadowed Cola wrote:Alcina Nektaria wrote:Bpos sent to: Vahzz - G-1 Scout Mizuki - A-1 Sentinel LOL KILLZ - C-1 Assault & M-1 Commando Edgar - G-1 Assault.
What I have left:
2 C-1 Assaults 2 G-1 Commandos 1 M-1 Commando 1 A-1 Logi 2 M-1 Logis 1 C-1 Scout No Amarr Commando? :(
No, I"m sorry :(
KEQ Diplomat
Gallente Loyalist ... Come at me bro.
A grenade to the head will most certainly get you dead.
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Atiim
15
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Posted - 2015.08.19 20:12:00 -
[79] - Quote
When one of the older patches dropped there was a bug that was giving players over 10-20mil at the end of each game, and that day each match was a bloodbath. Everyone fought with all they had because even if you lost some good suits to clear/hold a point it'd be worth it afterwards
Of course they'll never raise the payouts to that level because having a mediocre economy is more important than engaging gameplay, but it has been shown to work.
The 1st Matari Commando
-HAND
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maybe deadcatz
the nomercs
517
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Posted - 2015.08.19 20:24:00 -
[80] - Quote
Alcina Nektaria wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:Alcina Nektaria wrote:Bpos sent to: Vahzz - G-1 Scout Mizuki - A-1 Sentinel LOL KILLZ - C-1 Assault & M-1 Commando Edgar - G-1 Assault.
What I have left:
2 C-1 Assaults 2 G-1 Commandos 1 M-1 Commando 1 A-1 Logi 2 M-1 Logis 1 C-1 Scout No Amarr Commando? :( No, I"m sorry :(
I want a AM 1 logi. I can have one?(waiting for the day I can play the game in 2 weeks)
Need a speedy bro scout? Mail me,comes with shotgun and 20 pound bag of catnip for teh clonocide.(teh fak,cannot spell)
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CUSE TOWN333
Ancient Exiles.
3
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Posted - 2015.08.19 20:49:00 -
[81] - Quote
CommanderBolt wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:since i have come back to this game i have noticed a horrible playerbase that has no fight in them whatsoever. 5min into every match and people are leaveing battle or running to the redline to grab their sniper rifle. bluedots leaveing battle redots leaveing battle dafuq u running to? there is no shame in staying in battle and haveing a bad game it probably will tuffen you up. and its not only the new player but vets to. i understand no one can make you fight but ask yourself why play the game in the first place. props to Summer Salt from Molon Labe who stayed in a battle after Sax and the rest just rage quit. You damn well know that does not apply to me. Not saying that my Zerg like ways are at all tactical but I get in there dont I! P.S You left us again!? Guess its time to find a new corp. My loyalty is expended, besides I think most of the guys I joined KEQ with have all left now. i will find you a home friend
If you run your only going to die tired.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
20
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Posted - 2015.08.19 20:52:00 -
[82] - Quote
There is literally no one will to rush right into the middle of a squad of communicating players to pad their KD's or lose ISK.... Pub matches simply don't mean enough to be worth it.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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Victor889
WarRavens Imperium Eden
303
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Posted - 2015.08.19 21:00:00 -
[83] - Quote
Not going to happen, if you see:
A random blueberry--------------------------------Metjo A random blueberry--------------------------------SaxonMinge A random blueberry--------------------------------Duna2001 You---------------------------------------------------Catmerc A random blueberry--------------------------------CEOPyrex A random blueberry -------------------------------obligatory Academy inferno douche team member no-one in particlur----------------------------------obligatory Academy inferno douche team member Another nobody ------------------------------------obligatory Academy inferno douche team member no-one at all ----------------------------------------obligatory Academy inferno douche team member (AlwaysAtLeast4ofThem!?) Another random Blueberry -----------------------OuTeRHeAvEnGraMmarWh0Re Still no-one ------------------------------------------SomeoneForeignWhoPlaysMoreThanYou WhyAreYouStillHere?----------------------------- OtherDustNoLifer CircleStrafer666 -----------------------------------MyofibreStimAbusingC*nT RedlineSniper001-----------------------------------ScoutWhoIsAtThePointBeforeYouEvenSpawned MCC Camper -.- -----------------------------------MoreForeignPeople
You are absolutely not going to stick around.
'SaltyBlue has left the battle' "Enjoy your redline campfest D1cks....." |
TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
2
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Posted - 2015.08.19 21:03:00 -
[84] - Quote
Victor889 wrote:Not going to happen, if you see:
A random blueberry Metjo A random blueberry SaxonMinge A random blueberry Duna2001 You Catmerc A random blueberry CEOPyrex A random blueberry obligatory Academy inferno douche team member no-one in particlur obligatory Academy inferno douche team member Another nobody obligatory Academy inferno douche team member no-one at all obligatory Academy inferno douche team member (CosThere'sAlwaysAtLeast4ofThem!?) Another random Blueberry OuTeRHeAvEnGraMmarWh0Re Still no-one SomeoneForeignWhoPlaysMoreThanYou WhyAreYouStillHere? OtherDustNoLifer CircleStrafer666 MyofibreStimAbusingC*nT RedlineSniper001 ScoutWhoIsAtThePointBeforeYouEvenSpawned MCC Camper -.- MoreForeignPeople
You are absolutely not going to stick around.
'SaltyBlue has left the battle' "Enjoy your redline campfest D1cks....."
There is only one reply to this public display of being a *****
lolCP
SOONtm
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Victor889
WarRavens Imperium Eden
303
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Posted - 2015.08.19 21:05:00 -
[85] - Quote
TheD1CK wrote:Victor889 wrote:Not going to happen, if you see:
A random blueberry Metjo A random blueberry SaxonMinge A random blueberry Duna2001 You Catmerc A random blueberry CEOPyrex A random blueberry obligatory Academy inferno douche team member no-one in particlur obligatory Academy inferno douche team member Another nobody obligatory Academy inferno douche team member no-one at all obligatory Academy inferno douche team member (CosThere'sAlwaysAtLeast4ofThem!?) Another random Blueberry OuTeRHeAvEnGraMmarWh0Re Still no-one SomeoneForeignWhoPlaysMoreThanYou WhyAreYouStillHere? OtherDustNoLifer CircleStrafer666 MyofibreStimAbusingC*nT RedlineSniper001 ScoutWhoIsAtThePointBeforeYouEvenSpawned MCC Camper -.- MoreForeignPeople
You are absolutely not going to stick around.
'SaltyBlue has left the battle' "Enjoy your redline campfest D1cks....."
There is only one reply to this public display of being a ***** lolCP
Not personal but you get the idea, a bunch of uncommunicating no-ones vs. a communicating squad of proto-stompers |
Jack the Rlpper
TRAILS AND TRIBULATIONS No Context
299
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Posted - 2015.08.19 21:11:00 -
[86] - Quote
Alcina Nektaria wrote:Starlight Burner wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote: there is no shame in staying in battle and haveing a bad game it probably will tuffen you up. and its not only the new player but vets to. i understand no one can make you fight but ask yourself why play the game in the first place.
- I can't make money by throwing myself at the enemy.
- I will lose more than I would gain.
- Satisfaction of staying in a losing battle, doesn't do **** besides street creed. How am I gonna fund my war against Gallente maggots in Faction Warfare?
- Why fight a battle that is a loss?
Boom ^ Do you need a BPO suit? I can hook you up if you do. I'm sitting on a ton that I don't need/don't use. I'll even give you one for free lol
I could if yo wouldnt mind
n++pâçGòÉS+Ç +50 n++pâçGòÉS+Ç +60
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LOL KILLZ
LulKlz
313
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Posted - 2015.08.20 01:36:00 -
[87] - Quote
Alcina Nektaria wrote:Bpos sent to: Vahzz - G-1 Scout Mizuki - A-1 Sentinel LOL KILLZ - C-1 Assault & M-1 Commando Edgar - G-1 Assault.
What I have left:
2 C-1 Assaults 2 G-1 Commandos 1 M-1 Commando 1 A-1 Logi 2 M-1 Logis 1 C-1 Scout Se+¦or thank you!!!!
\0/
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
3
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Posted - 2015.08.20 02:33:00 -
[88] - Quote
Shadowed Cola wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:Alcina Nektaria wrote:Beld Errmon wrote: Guess my point is people are getting the games they deserve through their lack of valor. I agree, people who leave battles deserve to be put in ones where they get stomped. Yes, where they'll leave another squad of stompets sexually frustrated on the redline, losing protosuits to untouchable snipers, everyone wins! The real discussion should be the removal of the redline.
So you can stand right in peoples groundspawn and kill them there like some often-complained about acquisition maps?
I'm glad you're not involved in the design of this game because your idea is ****ing stupid.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
839
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Posted - 2015.08.20 02:42:00 -
[89] - Quote
Mina Longstrike wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:Alcina Nektaria wrote:Beld Errmon wrote: Guess my point is people are getting the games they deserve through their lack of valor. I agree, people who leave battles deserve to be put in ones where they get stomped. Yes, where they'll leave another squad of stompets sexually frustrated on the redline, losing protosuits to untouchable snipers, everyone wins! The real discussion should be the removal of the redline. So you can stand right in peoples groundspawn and kill them there like some often-complained about acquisition maps? I'm glad you're not involved in the design of this game because your idea is ****ing stupid. It's not only not stupid - your argument is stupid.
if MCC has turrets that could fire down on there own ground spawn there wouldn't be any issue at all with removing red-line.
And the red-line existence MAKES BALANCE IMPOSSIBLE. |
MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
3
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Posted - 2015.08.20 02:43:00 -
[90] - Quote
People complain about proto-stomp squads and the lack of matchmaking, so CCP adds in a MU matchmaker so that vets aren't getting put against total noobs. People complain about getting deployed to 'bad' / 'lost' matches... so CCP sets the matchmaker so that people don't get deployed to 'bad' matches. People complain about some other stuff, so CCP tweaks the matchmaker so that it takes a few minutes before deciding to repopulate a match (I think this had to do with MU values. People complain about how easy it is for a single six man squad to dominate a match (and this is true - look at what happens in fw with 8man squads that aren't countered by better 8 man squads), so CCP reduces squad sizes.
It turns out that "Vets" don't like fighting "Vets" because they're assholes with tiny ***** syndrome that need to exploit every broken mechanical advantage they can get. So people start going "Oh, I dont like fighting those guys... I'm leaving" usually taking their squads with them... which causes other "vets" to go "OMG WE'RE DOWN PEOPLE, THIS IS STUPID" because the matchmaker doesn't repopulate immediately and they leave... at which point the matchmaker goes "Oh, this is a bad match, I'm not going to repopulate it" and the match that might have actually been "okay" if people played it, is now a genuinely bad match (largely due to vets being pretty risk averse, passive and utterly frustrating to play against).
Congrats guys... this is the matchmaking that YOU complained hard enough to get. You are ruining matches and you have NO ONE to blame but yourselves, because this is what YOU asked for.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
3
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Posted - 2015.08.20 02:45:00 -
[91] - Quote
Shadowed Cola wrote: And the red-line existence MAKES BALANCE IMPOSSIBLE.
Asserting it doesn't make it true. Prove it.
Changing the redline for a MCC turret isn't actually a 'change' if they both functionally do the same damn thing.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
839
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Posted - 2015.08.20 02:48:00 -
[92] - Quote
Mina Longstrike wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote: And the red-line existence MAKES BALANCE IMPOSSIBLE.
Asserting it doesn't make it true. Prove it. Changing the redline for a MCC turret isn't actually a 'change' if they both functionally do the same damn thing. Prove it?
It's called practicality. The reason tanks are always feel over or under powered is because they have a safe zone where they can hide after there mods pop off. That makes balance LITERRALLY IMPOSSIBLE for AV.
They either hit hard enough to deal with that BS or don't. They either dedicate 2-3 players to deal with one or they don't.
Infantry is in the same boat but at a smaller scale since TTK is much smaller.
The red line to begin with was a part of data-mining us. The game modes we have are quick fixes for the removal of skirm 1.0 so they could continue to data mine.
We weren't supposed to stay this way until CCP ****** us over. |
Starlight Burner
Vader's-Fist
428
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Posted - 2015.08.20 02:51:00 -
[93] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:There is literally no one will to rush right into the middle of a squad of communicating players to pad their KD's or lose ISK.... Pub matches simply don't mean enough to be worth it.
CEO of Arrary of Clusters, a close relations corporation
Caldari Factional Warfare, enlist today!
Thank you for DUST
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Starlight Burner
Vader's-Fist
428
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Posted - 2015.08.20 02:55:00 -
[94] - Quote
Patrick57 wrote:Starlight Burner wrote:
- I can't make money by throwing myself at the enemy.
- I will lose more than I would gain.
just run a standard or cheap suit dude. you don't need to run advanced or proto all the time Again, what is the point of me throwing myself at the enemy losing isk or continuing to not have fun in this ' unfun ' game already.
Lets not forget that there is no incentives to even continue trying when you still get some **** ass payout less than 200k.
Not even ******* worth the frustration.
CEO of Arrary of Clusters, a close relations corporation
Caldari Factional Warfare, enlist today!
Thank you for DUST
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
3
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Posted - 2015.08.20 02:57:00 -
[95] - Quote
Shadowed Cola wrote: It's called practicality. The reason tanks are always feel over or under powered is because they have a safe zone where they can hide after there mods pop off. That makes balance LITERRALLY IMPOSSIBLE for AV.
They either hit hard enough to deal with that BS or don't. They either dedicate 2-3 players to deal with one or they don't.
Infantry is in the same boat but at a smaller scale since TTK is much smaller.
Those aren't exactly strong arguments. In fact you just confirmed that you want to stand in the redline and make it so people NEVER have a safe zone. Your statement can be paraphrased as "vehicles sometimes get away from me without dying and it makes me mad because I'm not allowed to chase them into a safe-zone and camp them to ensure their death".
In any case, vehicle vs anti-vehicle is an ancilliary issue to the red line, the fulcrum of V vs AV is not the redline.
Shadowed Cola wrote:The red line to begin with was a part of data-mining us. The game modes we have are quick fixes for the removal of skirm 1.0 so they could continue to data mine. We weren't supposed to stay this way until CCP ****** us over. This is another assertion without any supporting evidence, it can be dismissed as easily as it was created.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
839
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Posted - 2015.08.20 03:09:00 -
[96] - Quote
Mina Longstrike wrote:Shadowed Cola wrote: It's called practicality. The reason tanks are always feel over or under powered is because they have a safe zone where they can hide after there mods pop off. That makes balance LITERRALLY IMPOSSIBLE for AV.
They either hit hard enough to deal with that BS or don't. They either dedicate 2-3 players to deal with one or they don't.
Infantry is in the same boat but at a smaller scale since TTK is much smaller.
Those aren't exactly strong arguments. In fact you just confirmed that you want to stand in the redline and make it so people NEVER have a safe zone. Your statement can be paraphrased as "vehicles sometimes get away from me without dying and it makes me mad because I'm not allowed to chase them into a safe-zone and camp them to ensure their death". In any case, vehicle vs anti-vehicle is an ancilliary issue to the red line, the fulcrum of V vs AV is not the redline. Shadowed Cola wrote:The red line to begin with was a part of data-mining us. The game modes we have are quick fixes for the removal of skirm 1.0 so they could continue to data mine. We weren't supposed to stay this way until CCP ****** us over. This is another assertion without any supporting evidence, it can be dismissed as easily as it was created. I can't tell if you're trying to respond to me seriously or not.
Mainly because of how dismissive you're being. The AV discussion is absolutely true, you can't balance it with the red line present. And enabling people to hide in this game was never a good idea to begin with. You have free suits for a reason if you don't want to play the Risk vs Reward that is ALREADY NON EXISTENT.
CCP doesn't care about the NPE so discussing things for the newbies side of things is god damn pointless. Remove the red line so at least the players who still care can enjoy the damn game. Without a proper NPE there isn't any solution that'll seem viable - and even less so without a proper client side update.
But removing that red line is very possible. |
howard sanchez
Vader's-Fist
1
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Posted - 2015.08.20 03:52:00 -
[97] - Quote
Starlight Burner wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote: ok prime example right here. your corporation has the goal to take 100% of MH in PC. now ask yourself if you keep leaveing battle and never testing yourself when you go to launch a attack in PC how many districts do you think you will flip? your CEO should have installed this knowledge to you because 501st will stay and fight i know this.
I'm a CP worker. Don't PC unless I have to. Again, how am I going to fund my war against Gallente Scum in Factional Warfare, if all I'm getting is 130k isk for a **** match and take a loss in isk. Okay what about my BPOs? The fk would I continue to sit through frustration for to make 130k isk for? This right here.
Does anyone here even remember open beta? The rage and chaos on the forums about people AFKing in the MCC was relentless. It's always been this way in DUST. And it should stay this way.
Because DUST is about freedom of choice. And choice matters. And team work matters. And everyone has a right to play how they want.
That means you can play pubs and quit all day long...and the game won't hold it against you. You might not advance as fast, it might be more or less fun for you...you might not get on elite PC teams...but that's the point! It's up to you.
And Starlight is dead right! Big corps need players of every ilk. And in the new age of PC big corps need people that will just log in and grind CP for the team. This is a valuable role in big corps, even if we haven't yet seen it employed the way we will soon.
Seriously people, some of you have been playing DUST a long LONG time... people leaving battle has never meant that much in any single pub match. Just 2 days ago, I was in a random pub and half my underdog team quit midway through a hard stomp. By the end of match it was me and 2 other guys left.
I made 950,000 isk that match. The clones around at the DEFEAT screen get a larger portion of the damage pool payout. Quitters make you money if you keep going hard.
Don't judge. Just fight. Fight your own damn way - but fight. |
da GAND
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2015.08.20 03:56:00 -
[98] - Quote
Mina Longstrike wrote:People complain about proto-stomp squads and the lack of matchmaking, so CCP adds in a MU matchmaker so that vets aren't getting put against total noobs. People complain about getting deployed to 'bad' / 'lost' matches... so CCP sets the matchmaker so that people don't get deployed to 'bad' matches. People complain about some other stuff, so CCP tweaks the matchmaker so that it takes a few minutes before deciding to repopulate a match (I think this had to do with MU values). People complain about how easy it is for a single six man squad to dominate a match (and this is true - look at what happens in fw with 8man squads that aren't countered by better 8 man squads), so CCP reduces squad sizes.
It turns out that "Vets" don't like fighting "Vets" because they're assholes with tiny ***** syndrome that need to exploit every broken mechanical advantage they can get. So people start going "Oh, I dont like fighting those guys... I'm leaving" usually taking their squads with them... which causes other "vets" to go "OMG WE'RE DOWN PEOPLE, THIS IS STUPID" because the matchmaker doesn't repopulate immediately and they leave... at which point the matchmaker goes "Oh, this is a bad match, I'm not going to repopulate it" and the match that might have actually been "okay" if people played it, is now a genuinely bad match (largely due to vets being pretty risk averse, passive and utterly frustrating to play against).
Congrats guys... this is the matchmaking that YOU complained hard enough to get. You are ruining matches and you have NO ONE to blame but yourselves, because this is what YOU asked for.
Hey there us "Vets" aren't all the same just like u "rookies/new guys/newbies" or whatever u wanna be called aren't the same. There have been too many people that started back in the day (closed beta) and too many people that might have started a year or two ago that just go from one FOTM to the next, that always want to win and exploit the shite out of anything they can in the game. So ya my point is exploiters and tourists going from one FOTM to the next are not just vets they're also plenty of people which arent considered vets which do these things.
Time since Legion News
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
3
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Posted - 2015.08.20 04:18:00 -
[99] - Quote
Shadowed Cola wrote:I can't tell if you're trying to respond to me seriously or not.
Mainly because of how dismissive you're being.
This is how rational discussion works - If you can't substantiate something with evidence or well reasoned arguments I am entirely within my rights to dismiss it. We do not have to disprove things that haven't been proven (eg "a teacup is orbiting earth - you can't prove me wrong so its TRUE" "You molested a child, you cant prove me wrong SO ITS TRUE") or given reasonable cause to believe. It's far easier to create fallacious statements than it is to disprove them, which is why (in rational discussion) we don't entertain fallacies.
Shadowed Cola wrote:The AV discussion is absolutely true, you can't balance it with the red line present. And enabling people to hide in this game was never a good idea to begin with. You have free suits for a reason if you don't want to play the Risk vs Reward that is ALREADY NON EXISTENT. You are once again asserting that V vs AV is IMPOSSIBLE to balance as long as redlines exist and that simply isn't true, nor is it even believable (unless you're seriously turning off critical thought processes). There's plenty of ways to make it work - much slower vehicles (and lower damaged av weapons), better balanced modules, etc. As stated before the redline is not the fulcrum upon which vehicles are balanced, otherwise it and it alone would dictate engagements.
Shadowed Cola wrote:CCP doesn't care about the NPE so discussing things for the newbies side of things is god damn pointless. FACTUALLY. ****ING. UNTRUE.
If this was the case, Rattati himself would not have THREATENED TO BAN PEOPLE THAT WERE CYCLING ALTS JUST TO FARM THE BATTLE ACADEMY OR MADE THE CHANGES THAT PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING NOW! If this were the case, mu changes would never have happened, nor would their be high and low brackets for players, people would be tossed up against bittervets every ****ing match.
Almost every time a new player posts on the forums with a reasonable rational thread detailing their experiences with dust, a dev responds. Hell it happened earlier this week where archduke asked if he could play with the guy.
If you're going to LIE about **** at least make it ****ing plausible.
Shadowed Cola wrote:Remove the red line so at least the players who still care can enjoy the damn game.
Enjoy it how? because the only reason I can see for wanting the redline removed is to spawncamp (and you've yet to say anything that disproves that) and freely allow a hostile player to enter, stay and kill there.
Shadowed Cola wrote:Without a proper NPE there isn't any solution that'll seem viable - and even less so without a proper client side update. What does redline have to do with NPE? what does redline have to do with client updates? You're not connecting these issues (largely because they're completely unrelated).
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Shadowed Cola
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
841
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Posted - 2015.08.20 04:38:00 -
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Feel free to share with us everything CCP has done in the past 3 years to improve NPE.
actually - go ahead and list anything at all done at any given point that has been implemented to improve NPE.
I can only think of the PC changes - but that's not really for new players, but for ones ready to start exploring the game further.
Threatening players that are going out of there way to harm NPE is CCP acting as moderators - not programmers. It's a given that abusing mechanics would leave to punishment.
Fact is - and it is a fact wether you deny it or not - Red-line in FPS games only work if the objective is approachable and viable geographically from where you spawn in.
The maps we have now makes the losing side suffer MORE.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP Evil Syndicate Alliance.
3
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Posted - 2015.08.20 04:58:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:since i have come back to this game i have noticed a horrible playerbase that has no fight in them whatsoever. 5min into every match and people are leaveing battle or running to the redline to grab their sniper rifle. bluedots leaveing battle redots leaveing battle dafuq u running to? there is no shame in staying in battle and haveing a bad game it probably will tuffen you up. and its not only the new player but vets to. i understand no one can make you fight but ask yourself why play the game in the first place. props to Summer Salt from Molon Labe who stayed in a battle after Sax and the rest just rage quit.
Oddly the first 2 matches I played today were worse than ever. In my first match we ended up with only 3 people even on our team before the MCC even lost shields. Needless to say we got the **** kicked out of us.
In my second match the enemy team ended up down to 7 people. It got so boring that even my team started leaving battle. The beautiful thing is this match gave me my strong box key for the day which resulted in a quafe combat rifle. SOOOOOO close to having the full collection of light weapons.
++ Remove NPC orbitals from FW -- Fix orbital timers for Eve players assisting in Planetary Conquest ++
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Mina Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
3
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Posted - 2015.08.20 05:00:00 -
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Shadowed Cola wrote:Feel free to share with us everything CCP has done in the past 3 years to improve NPE.
actually - go ahead and list anything at all done at any given point that has been implemented to improve NPE.
I can only think of the PC changes - but that's not really for new players, but for ones ready to start exploring the game further.
oh there's acsemdy! And it lasts, how many matches? ....
Threatening players that are going out of there way to harm NPE is CCP acting as moderators - not programmers. It's a given that abusing mechanics would leave to punishment.
Disagreeing with things that are facts makes you an idiot. I don't need to reference things that are common knowledge - it's your job to become informed about a topic before entering discussion on it. Your feelings about whether something has been targeted at new players or not is irrelevant, we're discussing reals, not feels.
Shadowed Cola wrote: 1) Fact is - and it is a fact wether you deny it or not - Red-line in FPS games only work if the objective is approachable and viable geographically from where you spawn in.
2) It's not there so you can hide and act like pussies, it's a deployment zone so you can organize and push out. This never happens, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever. And it's stupid to do it in your own red-line to begin with - it's a HORRIBLE deployment spot.
1) This is an opinion, not a fact. Facts are demonstrable.
2) You are correct in that it's a deployment zone and organizational zone, everything else contained in this statement is lazy slurs, ad hominem and poorly reasoned opinion and no, you are not entitled to an opinion, you are entitled only to what you can argue for.
Let me pre-empt you here before your inevitable statement of "I'm entitled to my opinion". The problem with GÇ£IGÇÖm entitled to my opinionGÇ¥ is that, all too often, itGÇÖs used to shelter beliefs that should have been abandoned and people confuse opinions on "preference" for opinions stemming from technical expertise (straberry vs chocolate is preference, hydro-electric vs nuclear power is technical expertise). It becomes shorthand for GÇ£I can say or think whatever I likeGÇ¥ - which while technically true, you can think whatever you like and in places where free speech is protected you can say whatever you like... you are not however entitled to have those opinions treated as serious contenders for the truth especially when they've been repeatedly demonstrated to be incorrect.
Shadowed Cola wrote:Just get rid of the red-line so at least the team that earned there win can enjoy it. The scrubs who still want safety can hide in the MCC playing cards. :3 Earned your win? How? by f****ting harder? Enjoy it by continuing to f****t in the enemy redline?
Repeating yourself ad nauseum doesn't make your statement any truer. The redline exists specifically to prevent spawncamping and serve as a safe deployment/organization zone. Your ulterior motives have been shown, go back to your dunce corner you would-be spawncamping statpadding game-ruining shitbreather. You. Are. Wrong.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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VAHZZ
Vader's-Fist
7
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Posted - 2015.08.20 05:06:00 -
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Shadowed Cola wrote: oh there's acsemdy! And it lasts, how many matches?..
3 matches of going 35/0...2 matches of going 50/2.
Or, for the scrubs, usually 4 matches is the minimum, by minimum, I mean, the person sucking.
I survived Survivor
Shoot Ass with Yes!
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captainIreland
Mcalpines Fusiliers
41
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Posted - 2015.08.20 05:08:00 -
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Alcina Nektaria wrote:Bpos sent to: Vahzz - G-1 Scout Mizuki - A-1 Sentinel LOL KILLZ - C-1 Assault & M-1 Commando Edgar - G-1 Assault.
What I have left:
2 C-1 Assaults 2 G-1 Commandos 1 M-1 Commando 1 A-1 Logi 2 M-1 Logis 1 C-1 Scout
I could give one of those G-1 Commandos a nice home with. As for red line games that were i get the lazer out perfect time
I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.
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Hal P
DUST University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2015.08.26 20:19:00 -
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Alcina Nektaria wrote:VAHZZ wrote:Alcina Nektaria wrote: Do you need a BPO suit? I can hook you up if you do. I'm sitting on a ton that I don't need/don't use. I'll even give you one for free lol
I HEARD FREE! Free? You give free? I will give you a free one because you are you. What do you want? Standard: C-1 Assault C-1 Scout G-1 Assault G-1 Scout G-1 Commando M-1 Commando M-1 Logi (I think) A-1 Sentinel A-1 Scout (I think) I'm not able to check right this second, there may be more and I have multiples. Just let me know what you want
If it's free I'll snap the Assault C-1 up please! Hal P in-game in case you decide to bless me with a BPO. |
V1RONXSS
X-SENSE Security
72
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Posted - 2015.08.26 20:53:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:since i have come back to this game i have noticed a horrible playerbase that has no fight in them whatsoever. 5min into every match and people are leaveing battle or running to the redline to grab their sniper rifle. bluedots leaveing battle redots leaveing battle dafuq u running to? there is no shame in staying in battle and haveing a bad game it probably will tuffen you up. and its not only the new player but vets to. i understand no one can make you fight but ask yourself why play the game in the first place. props to Summer Salt from Molon Labe who stayed in a battle after Sax and the rest just rage quit.
For whatever reason ppl leave battles its up to them, everyone want find a game that he can enjoy, and also seeing often that ppl who rage on fourms about the issue, doing the same leaving is generally not a problem, there many factors behind affecting this.
Main is player base of course, its size actually, end not last, its a game mechanic and matchmaking system design, in current state, well all what i want to say,
-we have open beta client with a lot of features being even not released and without future development for years ready.
You just awaiting to much from this Game
The "Chiki Briki v Damki" Starter Pack.
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Void Echo
Helix Evolution I.W.C
3
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Posted - 2015.08.26 21:09:00 -
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Alcina Nektaria wrote:Starlight Burner wrote:Alcina Nektaria wrote: I average at least 410k a match even when I get stomped so you must be pretty bad if you're only getting 130k....... I average at least 410k a match even when I get stomped
^ This is a joke. so you must be pretty bad if you're only getting 130k.......^ This is a insult and rude. Also, I'm not bad. I make my appearance known on the leaderboards. Especially in Faction Warfare against Gallente supporters. no not a joke, i assure you. also just an observation. even on a stomped end of a match my wp value is 1500+ (most of the time) it happens when you actually PUSH and don't give up. that's what gameplay looks like
It is a well known fact that WP play a direct role in dictating how much ISK you get paid.
Closed Beta Vet.
Founder of Helix Evolution I.W.C
Playstation 4 = Future of Dust514.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Penumbra or something
7
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Posted - 2015.08.26 21:30:00 -
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I'm seeing kindof the same ****: only I'm just seeing a horrible playerbase.
Gal FW my first battle back, saw a squad of ancient exiles on the other team (as opposed to the purely random gallente team) so I switched to my pure-MLT BPO fittings.
Despite running proto and officer, those idiots STILL struggled to kill my militia ass.
Wasn't just them either. Running pubs lately, the entire community is a joke. I feel like everybody got significantly worse while I stayed the same.
The anti-tunnel snake taskforce has assembled
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LHughes
AFK Untill PS4
413
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Posted - 2015.08.26 22:17:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I'm seeing kindof the same ****: only I'm just seeing a horrible playerbase.
Gal FW my first battle back, saw a squad of ancient exiles on the other team (as opposed to the purely random gallente team) so I switched to my pure-MLT BPO fittings.
Despite running proto and officer, those idiots STILL struggled to kill my militia ass.
Wasn't just them either. Running pubs lately, the entire community is a joke. I feel like everybody got significantly worse while I stayed the same.
They started getting worse over 2 years ago when you got their hopes up...
...
I heard some are still waiting
My relationship with my old abuser is complex.... I hate what he did to me but.... He's the best CEO you could wish for.
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Alcina Nektaria
KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion.
210
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Posted - 2015.08.26 22:47:00 -
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Hal P wrote:Alcina Nektaria wrote:VAHZZ wrote:Alcina Nektaria wrote: Do you need a BPO suit? I can hook you up if you do. I'm sitting on a ton that I don't need/don't use. I'll even give you one for free lol
I HEARD FREE! Free? You give free? I will give you a free one because you are you. What do you want? Standard: C-1 Assault C-1 Scout G-1 Assault G-1 Scout G-1 Commando M-1 Commando M-1 Logi (I think) A-1 Sentinel A-1 Scout (I think) I'm not able to check right this second, there may be more and I have multiples. Just let me know what you want If it's free I'll snap the Assault C-1 up please! Hal P in-game in case you decide to bless me with a BPO. I might have given the last one away, I'll check when I get out of class in a couple hours
KEQ Diplomat and Director
ROFL. Diplomat and Red Button Pusher
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Devadander
Woodgrain Atari
599
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Posted - 2015.08.27 00:19:00 -
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I never leave battle, I never stay in one spot, I link when nobody else will, I charge groups too large for me to handle, I pull a tank when the enemy has five, I spend more on MLT dropships in a week than most players do on suits, I don't want your approval nor applause.
I just want you dead.
Gêå You want a toe? I can get you a toe dude. Gêå
Joined - 06-28-12 ~Deal with it~
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First Prophet
Nos Nothi
3
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Posted - 2015.08.27 04:41:00 -
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Alcina Nektaria wrote:Bpos sent to: Vahzz - G-1 Scout Mizuki - A-1 Sentinel LOL KILLZ - C-1 Assault & M-1 Commando Edgar - G-1 Assault.
What I have left:
2 C-1 Assaults 2 G-1 Commandos 1 M-1 Commando 1 A-1 Logi 2 M-1 Logis 1 C-1 Scout Can I has M-1 Commando?
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