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demens grimwulff
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Posted - 2015.06.26 16:03:00 -
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Congratulations, it is now legal
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/06/27/us/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage.html?referrer=
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Panthrax Oblivion
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Posted - 2015.06.26 16:10:00 -
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A sad dark day for my country
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Lightning35 Delta514
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Posted - 2015.06.26 16:13:00 -
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Panthrax Oblivion wrote:A sad dark day for my country
A very sad day. A country that was once formed on principles of the bible (even tho they didn't really follow it) is increasing the distance more and more each day. BUT THATS NONE OF MY BUSINESS.
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REDBACK96USMC
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Posted - 2015.06.26 16:15:00 -
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Well Technically it isnt legal yet, but the legal precedent has been set for States to do so if they please. In the end it is still up to the States to decide.
I assume States like Texas and such will still not recognize it internally since they don't give a crap about federal funding. |
demens grimwulff
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Posted - 2015.06.26 16:20:00 -
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REDBACK96USMC wrote:Well Technically it isnt legal yet, but the legal precedent has been set for States to do so if they please. In the end it is still up to the States to decide.
I assume States like Texas and such will still not recognize it internally since they don't give a crap about federal funding.
Not true: ruling states that the 14th amendment is extended to cover gay marriage, overriding state opinions on the matter. Texas' Attorney General says to not issue, but he has no legal basis for the claim and it will be forced in court.
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Isa Lucifer
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Posted - 2015.06.26 16:22:00 -
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My rights ends where yours begins. Let people live their life.
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noob cavman
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Posted - 2015.06.26 16:36:00 -
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Woo!!
Always good when people get equal rights *\o/*
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Nocturnal Soul
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Posted - 2015.06.26 16:40:00 -
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Panthrax Oblivion wrote:A sad dark day for my country
And my opinion of you just went down the sh+»t hole.
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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Posted - 2015.06.26 16:46:00 -
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I blame Caitlyn Jenner. |
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Posted - 2015.06.26 16:49:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:A sad dark day for my country And my opinion of you just went down the sh+»t hole.
And my percentage of caring about your opinion of me stayed the same....at 0
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Posted - 2015.06.26 16:52:00 -
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About f*ckin time! Who gives a damn who you decide to marry, I hate religion with a passion...
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4lbert Wesker
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Posted - 2015.06.26 16:55:00 -
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No matter if you are lesbian,gay or heterosexual,I hate you all.
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Pierced Daddy
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Posted - 2015.06.26 16:55:00 -
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Panthrax Oblivion wrote:A sad dark day for my country
It's a very sad joyful day. Now me and you can finally get married my love.
Don't be ashamed of our love for each other. I know it's been tough coming out of the closet but I'm proud of you.
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Posted - 2015.06.26 16:58:00 -
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Next thing you know it they'll let Gallente and Caldari get married, blasphemy.
Seriously though, thank you and I'm glad. Nice to see this country can still do some things right.
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demens grimwulff
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Posted - 2015.06.26 16:59:00 -
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http://hypetrain.website/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/salt.jpg
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Daddrobit
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Posted - 2015.06.26 17:04:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:A sad dark day for my country A very sad day. A country that was once formed on principles of the bible (even tho they didn't really follow it) is increasing the distance more and more each day. BUT THATS NONE OF MY BUSINESS.
What the ever loving ****?
The Treaty of Tripoli, Article 11: "The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion..."
Written at the end of George Washington's second term, and signed during John Adams.
Congratulations to all those finally gaining the equal right to legally love another human being!
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Posted - 2015.06.26 17:05:00 -
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Pierced Daddy wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:A sad dark day for my country It's a very sad joyful day. Now me and you can finally get married my love. Don't be ashamed of our love for each other. I know it's been tough coming out of the closet but I'm proud of you. You can wear the tux tonite handsome
Uhh I'm grilling out on the beach with my bros today soo....I don't think so
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Pierced Daddy
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Posted - 2015.06.26 17:08:00 -
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Daddrobit wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:A sad dark day for my country A very sad day. A country that was once formed on principles of the bible (even tho they didn't really follow it) is increasing the distance more and more each day. BUT THATS NONE OF MY BUSINESS. What the ever loving ****? The Treaty of Tripoli, Article 11: "The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion..." Written at the end of George Washington's second term, and signed during John Adams. Congratulations to all those finally gaining the equal right to legally love another human being!
May they suffer as much as the married straight people. 
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Songs of Seraphim
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Posted - 2015.06.26 17:10:00 -
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demens grimwulff wrote:http://hypetrain.website/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/salt.jpg
I'm saving this image. XD
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demens grimwulff
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Posted - 2015.06.26 17:12:00 -
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Daddrobit wrote:
What the ever loving ****?
The Treaty of Tripoli, Article 11: "The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion..."
Written at the end of George Washington's second term, and signed during John Adams.
Congratulations to all those finally gaining the equal right to legally love another human being!
totally on topic important NF business:
Dad, next time you are on, NF requests your soothing voice to grace us with the reading of various Kain Spero fan fiction.
Aeon Amadi tried, but it isn't the same as your buttery smooth voice.
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Pierced Daddy
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Posted - 2015.06.26 17:13:00 -
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Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Pierced Daddy wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:A sad dark day for my country It's a very sad joyful day. Now me and you can finally get married my love. Don't be ashamed of our love for each other. I know it's been tough coming out of the closet but I'm proud of you. You can wear the tux tonite handsome Uhh I'm grilling out on the beach with my bros today soo....I don't think so
Lol totally straight...no h0m0. Grilling and drinking with all doods on the beach in bathing suits with out shirts on, full of sun oil and sand.
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demens grimwulff
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Posted - 2015.06.26 17:13:00 -
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Songs of Seraphim wrote:demens grimwulff wrote:http://hypetrain.website/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/salt.jpg I'm saving this image. XD
Good man ;)
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Mejt0
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Posted - 2015.06.26 17:14:00 -
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Though i'm not supporting homosexuality (has nothing to do with religion as i'm an atheist) I think it's 'good'. It's 21st century after all, century of freedom (of choices).
Be happy with who you are. And when country is supporting this idea, super cool.
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Posted - 2015.06.26 17:15:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:A sad dark day for my country A very sad day. A country that was once formed on principles of the bible (even tho they didn't really follow it) is increasing the distance more and more each day. BUT THATS NONE OF MY BUSINESS.
B*shate, US was not builded on principles of any religious book.
It is even stated how state should not be interfered by any religion.
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Joel II X
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Posted - 2015.06.26 17:16:00 -
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Great, now show me the one about dust getting optimized!
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Heimdallr69
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Posted - 2015.06.26 17:18:00 -
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"God created everything" that includes gays you bible dwellers
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Daddrobit
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Posted - 2015.06.26 17:20:00 -
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demens grimwulff wrote:Daddrobit wrote:
What the ever loving ****?
The Treaty of Tripoli, Article 11: "The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion..."
Written at the end of George Washington's second term, and signed during John Adams.
Congratulations to all those finally gaining the equal right to legally love another human being!
totally on topic important NF business: Dad, next time you are on, NF requests your soothing voice to grace us with the reading of various Kain Spero fan fiction. Aeon Amadi tried, but it isn't the same as your buttery smooth voice.
But seriously though, Hynox needs to get his derriere in gear and write more delightful dragon dildo drama for me to disclose!
O.G. Pink Fluffy Bunny
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Posted - 2015.06.26 17:28:00 -
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Pierced Daddy wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Pierced Daddy wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:A sad dark day for my country It's a very sad joyful day. Now me and you can finally get married my love. Don't be ashamed of our love for each other. I know it's been tough coming out of the closet but I'm proud of you. You can wear the tux tonite handsome Uhh I'm grilling out on the beach with my bros today soo....I don't think so Lol totally straight...no h0m0. Grilling and drinking with all doods on the beach in bathing suits with out shirts on, full of sun oil and sand. Good cover story sweetie
What will u be doing today?
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demens grimwulff
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Posted - 2015.06.26 17:31:00 -
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Daddrobit wrote:But seriously though, Hynox needs to get his derriere in gear and write more delightful dragon dildo drama for me to disclose!
^ This
You have the perfect voice for the drama, love, and emotions he expresses in his writings
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REDBACK96USMC
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Posted - 2015.06.26 17:31:00 -
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demens grimwulff wrote:REDBACK96USMC wrote:Well Technically it isnt legal yet, but the legal precedent has been set for States to do so if they please. In the end it is still up to the States to decide.
I assume States like Texas and such will still not recognize it internally since they don't give a crap about federal funding. Not true: ruling states that the 14th amendment is extended to cover gay marriage, overriding state opinions on the matter. Texas' Attorney General says to not issue, but he has no legal basis for the claim and it will be forced in court.
I think you should read the State Actor Doctrine and rethink that.
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demens grimwulff
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Posted - 2015.06.26 17:34:00 -
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REDBACK96USMC wrote:
I think you should read the State Actor Doctrine and rethink that.
State action doctrine is the American legal concept that the protections of the Constitution GÇö such as the Fourteenth and First Amendments GÇö only apply with any real strength to the coercive power of the state against the individual, rather than the coercive power of the individual against the individual.
From a legal website... your interpretation is wrong. 14th amendment is upheld, states are required to marry. Sorry.
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Daddrobit
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Posted - 2015.06.26 17:42:00 -
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demens grimwulff wrote:Daddrobit wrote:But seriously though, Hynox needs to get his derriere in gear and write more delightful dragon dildo drama for me to disclose! ^ This You have the perfect voice for the drama, love, and emotions he expresses in his writings
Alright, I didn't need sleep, I'm on now...
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Scheneighnay McBob
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Posted - 2015.06.26 17:44:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:A sad dark day for my country A very sad day. A country that was once formed on principles of the bible (even tho they didn't really follow it) is increasing the distance more and more each day. BUT THATS NONE OF MY BUSINESS.
A country formed by those who want to practice what they damn well please, not formed on the bible.
Bible bashers have killed enough people in our history alone. Those entitled fucks think the country is for them, when in reality, it was founded to be a shelter from people like them.
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Posted - 2015.06.26 17:44:00 -
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Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:A sad dark day for my country A very sad day. A country that was once formed on principles of the bible (even tho they didn't really follow it) is increasing the distance more and more each day. BUT THATS NONE OF MY BUSINESS.
Yeup, the world is changing even further than anyone could have expected. Who knows what they will do next. They HAVE equal rights as a person but marriage is 1 man 1 woman.
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Posted - 2015.06.26 17:46:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:"God created everything" that includes gays you bible dwellers
He also gave us marriage between 1 man and 1 woman. He also does not give you a temptation you cannot overcome.
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REDBACK96USMC
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Posted - 2015.06.26 17:47:00 -
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demens grimwulff wrote:REDBACK96USMC wrote:
I think you should read the State Actor Doctrine and rethink that.
State action doctrine is the American legal concept that the protections of the Constitution GÇö such as the Fourteenth and First Amendments GÇö only apply with any real strength to the coercive power of the state against the individual, rather than the coercive power of the individual against the individual. From a legal website... your interpretation is wrong. 14th amendment is upheld, states are required to marry. Sorry.
Interpretations are like opinions which are like assholes. They all stink..
At the end of the day I am glad they ruled it does fall under it, I just don't think it is as final as everyone thinks it is.
Texas nor any other state doesn't have to issue if they do not want to. Congress will pass their law forbidding federal funding if they do not or if they really want, deny them their representation in Congress. I highly doubt the latter would happen.
And the legal merry go round will continue. That is all I am getting at. |
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Posted - 2015.06.26 17:47:00 -
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Daddrobit wrote:demens grimwulff wrote:Daddrobit wrote:But seriously though, Hynox needs to get his derriere in gear and write more delightful dragon dildo drama for me to disclose! ^ This You have the perfect voice for the drama, love, and emotions he expresses in his writings Alright, I didn't need sleep, I'm on now...
Awww :( @ work... tonight is NF drunk night if you're still awake
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Posted - 2015.06.26 17:49:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Next thing you know it they'll let Gallente and Caldari get married, blasphemy.
Seriously though, thank you and I'm glad. Nice to see this country can still do some things right.
Caldari would definitely be the man in that relationship.
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Daddrobit
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Posted - 2015.06.26 17:51:00 -
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demens grimwulff wrote:Daddrobit wrote:demens grimwulff wrote:Daddrobit wrote:But seriously though, Hynox needs to get his derriere in gear and write more delightful dragon dildo drama for me to disclose! ^ This You have the perfect voice for the drama, love, and emotions he expresses in his writings Alright, I didn't need sleep, I'm on now... Awww :( @ work... tonight is NF drunk night if you're still awake
 I work night shifts... Our love... Can it survive the dark rigors of conflicting work schedules?
Well at least the Supreme Court seems to think so!
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Scheneighnay McBob
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Posted - 2015.06.26 17:51:00 -
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I wonder how people would react to me stating that there are a LOT of openly gay people in the military, doing what they can to protect even the bible bashers.
The fire-team leader I had in basic is, and she's one of the toughest people I trained with. It was her second time going through (broke her ankle and was sent home on the final week her first time through), and she said she would keep trying and go through a 3rd time if it happened again.
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Posted - 2015.06.26 17:55:00 -
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Jehovah floods an entire world, burns two cities because they didn't like foreigners, kills every first born in Egypt, and lies to Adam and Eve about the tree. None of the bible thumpers seem to complain about that.
Someone asks for gay marriage... OMGWTFBBQ THE BIBLE THUMPERS GO CRAZY AND CLAIM THE END OF SOCIETY IS COMING!
/meanwhile Maken will continue to eat popcorn
PS: Do I have to bring up what the Christians did to the Mormons back in Joseph Smith's day?
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Posted - 2015.06.26 17:56:00 -
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Daddrobit wrote: I work night shifts... Our love... Can it survive the dark rigors of conflicting work schedules? Well at least the Supreme Court seems to think so!
We will always have love and hope, dad
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PLAYSTTION wrote: They HAVE equal rights.
LOLWUT
Not being able to visit their SO in the hospital sure is equal
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PLAYSTTION wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:"God created everything" that includes gays you bible dwellers He also gave us marriage between 1 man and 1 woman. He also does not give you a temptation you cannot overcome.
GÇ£I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.GÇ¥ (1 Timothy 2:12)
GÇ£This is what the Lord Almighty says... GÇÿNow go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.GÇÖGÇ¥ (1 Samuel 15:3)
GÇ£Do not allow a sorceress to live.GÇ¥ (Exodus 22:18)
GÇÿTake your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt-offering on one of the mountains that I shall show you.GÇÖ (Genesis 22:2)
GÇ£Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord.GÇ¥ (Ephesians 5:22)
GÇ£Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel.GÇ¥ (1 Peter 2:18)
If this is what God is, then FUCKTHATNOISE.
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Posted - 2015.06.26 18:02:00 -
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PLAYSTTION wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:"God created everything" that includes gays you bible dwellers He also gave us marriage between 1 man and 1 woman. He also does not give you a temptation you cannot overcome.
Troll lacks the intelligence to make a truly rage worthy post
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Posted - 2015.06.26 18:04:00 -
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Moochie Cricket wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:"God created everything" that includes gays you bible dwellers He also gave us marriage between 1 man and 1 woman. He also does not give you a temptation you cannot overcome. GÇ£I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.GÇ¥ (1 Timothy 2:12) GÇ£This is what the Lord Almighty says... GÇÿNow go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.GÇÖGÇ¥ (1 Samuel 15:3) GÇ£Do not allow a sorceress to live.GÇ¥ (Exodus 22:18) GÇÿTake your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt-offering on one of the mountains that I shall show you.GÇÖ (Genesis 22:2) GÇ£Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord.GÇ¥ (Ephesians 5:22) GÇ£Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel.GÇ¥ (1 Peter 2:18) If this is what God is, then FUCKTHATNOISE.
/orders an extra-large bag of popcorn
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Posted - 2015.06.26 18:07:00 -
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Moochie Cricket wrote:GÇ£Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel.GÇ¥ (1 Peter 2:18)
You sure that isn't from Amarrian scripture?
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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Posted - 2015.06.26 18:09:00 -
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As individuals. My belief is they shouldn't be in a romantic relationship in the first place.
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Moochie Cricket wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:"God created everything" that includes gays you bible dwellers He also gave us marriage between 1 man and 1 woman. He also does not give you a temptation you cannot overcome. GÇ£I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.GÇ¥ (1 Timothy 2:12) GÇ£This is what the Lord Almighty says... GÇÿNow go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.GÇÖGÇ¥ (1 Samuel 15:3) GÇ£Do not allow a sorceress to live.GÇ¥ (Exodus 22:18) GÇÿTake your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt-offering on one of the mountains that I shall show you.GÇÖ (Genesis 22:2) GÇ£Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord.GÇ¥ (Ephesians 5:22) GÇ£Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel.GÇ¥ (1 Peter 2:18) If this is what God is, then FUCKTHATNOISE.
Ok here we go. I'm young an my bible knowledge is pretty small but I will give you context and explain the ones I understand.
1. I haven't read much in that part and would need to look into it.
2. That was a historical recount not a "Go kill your neibours kids, pet, and wife".
3. Again I'm not familiar with that area.
4. You know that was a test of faith right? He didn't actually kill him?
5. Sigh, is this such a bad thing? I'm pretty sure it says husbands submit to your wives also. It is an equal relationship.
6. Slave meant worker or employee. And you should always respect and obey the people above you even if they are cruel. And with nowadays version of slavery you should do the same. If I was a black slave 200 years ago I would be angry at my master but I would try my best to obey and respect him. I would pray for his heart to change.
I may have misspoken or put something untrue here but this is what my limited knowledge can explain to you.
God bless!
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Some nerd wrote a book and some sorry souls believe it's the word of God..
But I believe God is a woman..why? Cuz I can and that's what I want..when I die I'm gonna rail her
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PLAYSTTION wrote:As individuals. My belief is they shouldn't be in a romantic relationship in the first place.
And my belief is that no one should deny anyone such a romantic relationship. Your point?
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Moochie Cricket wrote:GÇ£Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel.GÇ¥ (1 Peter 2:18) You sure that isn't from Amarrian scripture?
Nope. I have the copy of the bible (NIV) and it's all in there. Warts and all.
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Maken Tosch wrote:Jehovah floods an entire world, burns two cities because they didn't like foreigners, kills every first born in Egypt, and lies to Adam and Eve about the tree. None of the bible thumpers seem to complain about that.
Someone asks for gay marriage... OMGWTFBBQ THE BIBLE THUMPERS GO CRAZY AND CLAIM THE END OF SOCIETY IS COMING!
/meanwhile Maken will continue to eat popcorn
PS: Do I have to bring up what the Christians did to the Mormons back in Joseph Smith's day?
The Flood: He warned them and saved the only holiest man left.
Sodom and Gomorrah: Extremely sinful cities that God judged.
Egyptian Plages: He warned them.
Tree: What was the lie about the tree? He said don't eat from it and obviously it was bad. Look where we are now, it must have been bad.
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PLAYSTTION wrote:Ok here we go. I'm young an my bible knowledge is pretty small but I will give you context and explain the ones I understand.
When you get older, see if your bigoted opinions remain.
As someone who has suffered threats of violence, failed college classes, had people threaten to pull work from the company I work for, and watched friends commit suicide from their own harrasement, solely because of a sexual preference one is born with, your opinion in this thread reflects the lack of maturity and experience that you admit to not having.
Get out of the surbabanite bubble and see the world. You will change.
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"This several thousand year old book says dehumanizing people is okay, so it must be okay."
I'm getting really pissed off at the homophobes in this thread. Keep cherrypicking from your storybook.
Oh, and before anyone gets any ideas; I'm your average straight, non-religious, over-privileged white teenager. Except many of my friends are not heterosexual, and I'm trying to fathom why people want to stick their nose in other people's lives and tell them how to feel and what they're allowed to do. But, you know, "God loves everyone, except for those gay people. Make sure they don't have basic human rights because the way you roll is the 'right way' and anyone who doesn't is invalid."
...Whoa. I got salty.
9/10, you got me. GG
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Maken Tosch wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:As individuals. My belief is they shouldn't be in a romantic relationship in the first place. And my belief is that no one should deny anyone such a romantic relationship. Your point?
Point: They have all the rights they need to live and are respected as people. But homosexuality is a sin and they should repent. I'm not going to go kill them but will love and respect them like anyone else.
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Sergeant Sazu wrote:"This several thousand year old book says dehumanizing people is okay, so it must be okay."
I'm getting really pissed off at the homophobes in this thread. Keep cherrypicking from your storybook.
Oh, and before anyone gets any ideas; I'm your average straight, non-religious, over-privileged white teenager. Except many of my friends are not heterosexual, and I'm trying to fathom why people want to stick their nose in other people's lives and tell them how to feel and what they're allowed to do. But, you know, "God loves everyone, except for those gay people. Make sure they don't have basic human rights because the way you roll is the 'right way' and anyone who doesn't is invalid."
...Whoa. I got salty.
9/10, you got me. GG
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demens grimwulff wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Ok here we go. I'm young an my bible knowledge is pretty small but I will give you context and explain the ones I understand. When you get older, see if your bigoted opinions remain. As someone who has suffered threats of violence, failed college classes, had people threaten to pull work from the company I work for, and watched friends commit suicide from their own harrasement, solely because of a sexual preference one is born with, your opinion in this thread reflects the lack of maturity and experience that you admit to not having. Get out of the surbabanite bubble and see the world. You will change.
Your right I will change! My beliefs will become more solid and my knowledge will expand. I went on a missions trip to Honduras to "see the world" when I was 13 and I did change. Building up that village was amazing. I will be going to Jamaica to do the same next year.
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Moochie Cricket wrote:GÇ£Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel.GÇ¥ (1 Peter 2:18) You sure that isn't from Amarrian scripture?
I may be wrong but the Amarr faith has some very distant roots to the Abrahamic religions.
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Speaking of sins how many of you had sex before marriage? See you in hell
Also lying, don't tell me you've never lied everyone has, once again see you in hell
No human shall go to heaven, according to your bible that is
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PLAYSTTION wrote:
Your right I will change! My beliefs will become more solid and my knowledge will expand. I went on a missions trip to Honduras to "see the world" when I was 13 and I did change. Building up that village was amazing.
http://theconversation.com/why-the-murder-rate-in-honduras-is-twice-as-high-as-anywhere-else-34687
Have you read anything on Honduras? I work with Hondurans... they giggled at your post. Your bubble remained intact, as expected.
Go, see the real world... don't be sheltered.
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PLAYSTTION wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Jehovah floods an entire world, burns two cities because they didn't like foreigners, kills every first born in Egypt, and lies to Adam and Eve about the tree. None of the bible thumpers seem to complain about that.
Someone asks for gay marriage... OMGWTFBBQ THE BIBLE THUMPERS GO CRAZY AND CLAIM THE END OF SOCIETY IS COMING!
/meanwhile Maken will continue to eat popcorn
PS: Do I have to bring up what the Christians did to the Mormons back in Joseph Smith's day? Egyptian Plages: He warned them.
Well, he may have warned them through Moses, but the entire ordeal was already premeditated and fated to happen, Moses was only a formality in the matter of the warning.
Exodus 4:21
And the LORD said unto Moses, When thou goest to return into Egypt, see that thou do all those wonders before Pharaoh, which I have put in thine hand: but I will harden his heart, that he shall not let the people go.
Exodus 9:12
And the LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh, and he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had spoken unto Moses.
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PLAYSTTION wrote:homosexuality is a sin
Ah, yes. I remember that line.
"Man shall not lie with man as he does a women. It is an abomination."
Notice how it doesn't explain why. No suporting argument, no reasoning whatsoever. Kinda sounds like, I dunno, someone's opinion. Just maybe.
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Speaking of sins how many of you had sex before marriage? See you in hell
Also lying, don't tell me you've never lied everyone has, once again see you in hell
No human shall go to heaven, according to your bible that is
the most well know verse in the bible says other things. The main point of the bible is that Jesus came and died for us terrible hate filled people who commit all those terrible things you have said so that if we chose him and tried our best to live for him we will live forever.
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PLAYSTTION wrote:Moochie Cricket wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:"God created everything" that includes gays you bible dwellers He also gave us marriage between 1 man and 1 woman. He also does not give you a temptation you cannot overcome. GÇ£I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.GÇ¥ (1 Timothy 2:12) GÇ£This is what the Lord Almighty says... GÇÿNow go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.GÇÖGÇ¥ (1 Samuel 15:3) GÇ£Do not allow a sorceress to live.GÇ¥ (Exodus 22:18) GÇÿTake your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt-offering on one of the mountains that I shall show you.GÇÖ (Genesis 22:2) GÇ£Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord.GÇ¥ (Ephesians 5:22) GÇ£Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel.GÇ¥ (1 Peter 2:18) If this is what God is, then FUCKTHATNOISE. Ok here we go. I'm young an my bible knowledge is pretty small but I will give you context and explain the ones I understand. 1. I haven't read much in that part and would need to look into it. 2. That was a historical recount not a "Go kill your neibours kids, pet, and wife". 3. Again I'm not familiar with that area. 4. You know that was a test of faith right? He didn't actually kill him? 5. Sigh, is this such a bad thing? I'm pretty sure it says husbands submit to your wives also. It is an equal relationship. 6. Slave meant worker or employee. And you should always respect and obey the people above you even if they are cruel. And with nowadays version of slavery you should do the same. If I was a black slave 200 years ago I would be angry at my master but I would try my best to obey and respect him. I would pray for his heart to change. I may have misspoken or put something untrue here but this is what my limited knowledge can explain to you. God bless!
Oh here we go. I'll bite the troll bait.
1. It all boils down to sexism. Some men just don't like the idea of women being in control. Period.
2. The bible is not a history book. Never was. Never will.
3. If you think about it, a god does some magic, no one complains. Someone else does magic, everyone complains? Double standards at work here.
4. If Jehovah is an all knowing creator god, he wouldn't need to test anyone because he would already know the results before the test even started. There is no point in this test. If anything this just tells me that Jehovah didn't know the guy well enough and had to test him. Therefore, Jehovah is not all knowing and thus never all powerful.
5. Nah. It's just more sexism. Read the bible some more.
6. Nah. Slaves weren't even paid back then. Although to be fair if I recall correctly, back when the Roman Empire was still pagan, slavery use to be seen as a means of gaining freedom. You work for a master for a set time and then you earn your freedom. In other words, they were indentured servants. Those are completely different from slaves. Keep in mind the Southern States use to use this part of the bible before the American Civil War as an excuse for owning slaves. Those slaves were never set free and were never paid until after the war.
I will let you off for now as you were kind enough to claim to not understand everything. I suggest you read the bible from front to back and see for yourself how F-ed up it is.
PS: In case anyone asks, I'm not atheist. I'm Gnostic (not to be confused with Agnostic).
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Sergeant Sazu wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:homosexuality is a sin Ah, yes. I remember that line. "Man shall not lie with man as he does a women. It is an abomination." Notice how it doesn't explain why. No suporting argument, no reasoning whatsoever. Kinda sounds like, I dunno, someone's opinion. Just maybe.
Give me the verse or ask someone who knows this better than me. It also says marriage is to be between a man and a woman. And if the verse has God saying it who are we to judge God?
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demens grimwulff wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Ok here we go. I'm young an my bible knowledge is pretty small but I will give you context and explain the ones I understand. When you get older, see if your bigoted opinions remain. As someone who has suffered threats of violence, failed college classes, had people threaten to pull work from the company I work for, and watched friends commit suicide from their own harrasement, solely because of a sexual preference one is born with, your opinion in this thread reflects the lack of maturity and experience that you admit to not having. Get out of the surbabanite bubble and see the world. You will change.
PLAYSTTION is explaining his point through a Christian perspective and interpreting all the Biblical passages to shed some light that God is not as cruel as everyone thinks. How does this make him immature? If anything, you are for attacking his beliefs. Give your opinion, let each person believe what they want to, and go back to more important things than getting salty on a silly thread
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PLAYSTTION wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Jehovah floods an entire world, burns two cities because they didn't like foreigners, kills every first born in Egypt, and lies to Adam and Eve about the tree. None of the bible thumpers seem to complain about that.
Someone asks for gay marriage... OMGWTFBBQ THE BIBLE THUMPERS GO CRAZY AND CLAIM THE END OF SOCIETY IS COMING!
/meanwhile Maken will continue to eat popcorn
PS: Do I have to bring up what the Christians did to the Mormons back in Joseph Smith's day? The Flood: He warned them and saved the only holiest man left. Sodom and Gomorrah: Extremely sinful cities that God judged. Egyptian Plages: He warned them. Tree: What was the lie about the tree? He said don't eat from it and obviously it was bad. Look where we are now, it must have been bad.
Still doesn't excuse Jehovah from committing crimes against humanity. When the time comes that I die and see him personally, I will tell him to frakk off. I wouldn't want to be a part of a club where the guy in charge is a mass murderer.
PS: Read the bible. He said that eating from the tree will kill them. They ate the fruit but never died. They just learned the difference between right and wrong.
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Maken Tosch wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Moochie Cricket wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:"God created everything" that includes gays you bible dwellers He also gave us marriage between 1 man and 1 woman. He also does not give you a temptation you cannot overcome. GÇ£I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.GÇ¥ (1 Timothy 2:12) GÇ£This is what the Lord Almighty says... GÇÿNow go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.GÇÖGÇ¥ (1 Samuel 15:3) GÇ£Do not allow a sorceress to live.GÇ¥ (Exodus 22:18) GÇÿTake your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt-offering on one of the mountains that I shall show you.GÇÖ (Genesis 22:2) GÇ£Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord.GÇ¥ (Ephesians 5:22) GÇ£Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel.GÇ¥ (1 Peter 2:18) If this is what God is, then FUCKTHATNOISE. Ok here we go. I'm young an my bible knowledge is pretty small but I will give you context and explain the ones I understand. 1. I haven't read much in that part and would need to look into it. 2. That was a historical recount not a "Go kill your neibours kids, pet, and wife". 3. Again I'm not familiar with that area. 4. You know that was a test of faith right? He didn't actually kill him? 5. Sigh, is this such a bad thing? I'm pretty sure it says husbands submit to your wives also. It is an equal relationship. 6. Slave meant worker or employee. And you should always respect and obey the people above you even if they are cruel. And with nowadays version of slavery you should do the same. If I was a black slave 200 years ago I would be angry at my master but I would try my best to obey and respect him. I would pray for his heart to change. I may have misspoken or put something untrue here but this is what my limited knowledge can explain to you. God bless! Oh here we go. I'll bite the troll bait. 1. It all boils down to sexism. Some men just don't like the idea of women being in control. Period. 2. The bible is not a history book. Never was. Never will. 3. If you think about it, a god does some magic, no one complains. Someone else does magic, everyone complains? Double standards at work here. 4. If Jehovah is an all knowing creator god, he wouldn't need to test anyone because he would already know the results before the test even started. There is no point in this test. If anything this just tells me that Jehovah didn't know the guy well enough and had to test him. Therefore, Jehovah is not all knowing and thus never all powerful. 5. Nah. It's just more sexism. Read the bible some more. 6. Nah. Slaves weren't even paid back then. Although to be fair if I recall correctly, back when the Roman Empire was still pagan, slavery use to be seen as a means of gaining freedom. You work for a master for a set time and then you earn your freedom. In other words, they were indentured servants. Those are completely different from slaves. Keep in mind the Southern States use to use this part of the bible before the American Civil War as an excuse for owning slaves. Those slaves were never set free and were never paid until after the war. I will let you off for now as you were kind enough to claim to not understand everything. I suggest you read the bible from front to back and see for yourself how F-ed up it is. PS: In case anyone asks, I'm not atheist. I'm Gnostic (not to be confused with Agnostic).
Thank you for the respectful response. I will let you know it is just as easy for me to respond to your points and make you look silly as you have.
I suggest you look into the answers to these yourself as I cannot and would prefer not to type it all. Watch a few of Ravi Zacharias's videos on these topics and you will understand better, you will probably have the same response but its worth a try.
If you want my personal responses ask, I have them but it I think the videos/research will have a better effect.
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Panthrax Oblivion wrote:PLAYSTTION is explaining his point through a Christian perspective and interpreting all the Biblical passages to shed some light that God is not as cruel as everyone thinks. How does this make him immature? If anything, you are for attacking his beliefs. Give your opinion, let each person believe what they want to, and go back to more important things than getting salty on a silly thread
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maturity
[muh-choo r-i-tee, -too r-, -tyoo r-, -chur-]
noun
1.
the state of being mature; ripeness:
The fruit will reach maturity in a few days.
2.
full development; perfected condition:
maturity of judgment; to bring a plan to maturity
I am glad you used the psychological definition, which through proper interpretation you will notice through context that I did not, as it points out your opinions and views on the matter.
I am not attacking his age so much as lack of experience outside of the bubble his family has put him in. His opinions aren't that mature and require more time to fully develop. Though I do appreciate your injection of your own bias... it is quite telling.
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PLAYSTTION wrote:
Point: They have all the rights they need to live and are respected as people. But homosexuality is a sin and they should repent. I'm not going to go kill them but will love and respect them like anyone else.
I'll give you some time to think about what you just said.
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Maken Tosch wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Jehovah floods an entire world, burns two cities because they didn't like foreigners, kills every first born in Egypt, and lies to Adam and Eve about the tree. None of the bible thumpers seem to complain about that.
Someone asks for gay marriage... OMGWTFBBQ THE BIBLE THUMPERS GO CRAZY AND CLAIM THE END OF SOCIETY IS COMING!
/meanwhile Maken will continue to eat popcorn
PS: Do I have to bring up what the Christians did to the Mormons back in Joseph Smith's day? The Flood: He warned them and saved the only holiest man left. Sodom and Gomorrah: Extremely sinful cities that God judged. Egyptian Plages: He warned them. Tree: What was the lie about the tree? He said don't eat from it and obviously it was bad. Look where we are now, it must have been bad. Still doesn't excuse Jehovah from committing crimes against humanity. When the time comes that I die and see him personally, I will tell him to frakk off. I wouldn't want to be a part of a club where the guy in charge is a mass murderer. PS: Read the bible. He said that eating from the tree will kill them. They ate the fruit but never died. They just learned the difference between right and wrong.
It did kill them. It introduced death to the world and humans. That has a much deeper meaning than you would expect. Again, I'm not an expert with years of study, but if you want further clarification ask or research.
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Maken Tosch wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:
Point: They have all the rights they need to live and are respected as people. But homosexuality is a sin and they should repent. I'm not going to go kill them but will love and respect them like anyone else.
I'll give you some time to think about what you just said.
I know, I said I'd love them. Not romantically, but brother and sisterly.
Can you still love a friend even if he is a criminal? You would advise him to stop but it is his choice to go straight.
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Panthrax Oblivion wrote:demens grimwulff wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Ok here we go. I'm young an my bible knowledge is pretty small but I will give you context and explain the ones I understand. When you get older, see if your bigoted opinions remain. As someone who has suffered threats of violence, failed college classes, had people threaten to pull work from the company I work for, and watched friends commit suicide from their own harrasement, solely because of a sexual preference one is born with, your opinion in this thread reflects the lack of maturity and experience that you admit to not having. Get out of the surbabanite bubble and see the world. You will change. PLAYSTTION is explaining his point through a Christian perspective and interpreting all the Biblical passages to shed some light that God is not as cruel as everyone thinks. How does this make him immature? If anything, you are for attacking his beliefs. Give your opinion, let each person believe what they want to, and go back to more important things than getting salty on a silly thread
Thanks, I am enjoying answering these questions actually. Its easy throughout the internet where the questions come slower. IRL when people bash me it is question after question with no time for an answer. Its also always 5v1.
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PLAYSTTION wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:
Point: They have all the rights they need to live and are respected as people. But homosexuality is a sin and they should repent. I'm not going to go kill them but will love and respect them like anyone else.
I'll give you some time to think about what you just said. I know, I said I'd love them. Not romantically, but brother and sisterly. Can you still love a friend even if he is a criminal? You would advise him to stop but it is his choice to go straight.
Did. You. Just. Compare. Homosexuality. With. Criminality?
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Maken Tosch wrote:Did. You. Just. Compare. Homosexuality. With. Criminality?
I believe so, yes.
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Hold on a second. Let me get my troll meter.
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DAMN IT, I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN! PLAYSTTION, YOU LITTLE TROLL!
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demens grimwulff wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:PLAYSTTION is explaining his point through a Christian perspective and interpreting all the Biblical passages to shed some light that God is not as cruel as everyone thinks. How does this make him immature? If anything, you are for attacking his beliefs. Give your opinion, let each person believe what they want to, and go back to more important things than getting salty on a silly thread *facepalms* maturity [muh-choo r-i-tee, -too r-, -tyoo r-, -chur-] noun 1. the state of being mature; ripeness: The fruit will reach maturity in a few days. 2. full development; perfected condition: maturity of judgment; to bring a plan to maturity I am glad you used the psychological definition, which through proper interpretation you will notice through context that I did not, as it points out your opinions and views on the matter. I am not attacking his age so much as lack of experience outside of the bubble his family has put him in. His opinions aren't that mature and require more time to fully develop. Though I do appreciate your injection of your own bias... it is quite telling.
I understand my mind is not fully there yet but my faith is my own. My family started it but I have taken it up.
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PLAYSTTION wrote:Thanks, I am enjoying answering these questions actually. Its easy throughout the internet where the questions come slower. IRL when people bash me it is question after question with no time for an answer. Its also always 5v1.
Not sure why you are thanking him. He did nothing besides misinterpret my statement... unless you did the same and felt like he pointed it out... at which point, my statement still applies, but to both of you.
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Maken Tosch wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:
Point: They have all the rights they need to live and are respected as people. But homosexuality is a sin and they should repent. I'm not going to go kill them but will love and respect them like anyone else.
I'll give you some time to think about what you just said. I know, I said I'd love them. Not romantically, but brother and sisterly. Can you still love a friend even if he is a criminal? You would advise him to stop but it is his choice to go straight. Did. You. Just. Compare. Homosexuality. With. Criminality?
I compared a sin with a sin in a relatable analogy. Again, I do not claim to be all knowing on this topic .
And my point there was if a friend was going down a bad path...
It was the only non-christian example I had, as adultery and other things aren't as severe to non-believers.
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Well, it's official.
You can now post anything you want in GD. The Locker Room is dead.
This is the worst thread I have ever read here.
If you live long enough, one becomes aware of one singular universal truth: it is pointless to discuss religion and politics in mixed company. They are the most personal of topics, and you will never change someone's mind.
I am pleased, however, that my Great State of Texas has been referenced as it is the only truly relevant US state. There's Texas, then everyone else. There is no ambivalence.
No one ever brags about being from Delaware.
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demens grimwulff wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Thanks, I am enjoying answering these questions actually. Its easy throughout the internet where the questions come slower. IRL when people bash me it is question after question with no time for an answer. Its also always 5v1. Not sure why you are thanking him. He did nothing besides misinterpret my statement... unless you did the same and felt like he pointed it out... at which point, my statement still applies, but to both of you.
Thanks for support is what that meant.
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demens grimwulff wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Thanks, I am enjoying answering these questions actually. Its easy throughout the internet where the questions come slower. IRL when people bash me it is question after question with no time for an answer. Its also always 5v1. Not sure why you are thanking him. He did nothing besides misinterpret my statement... unless you did the same and felt like he pointed it out... at which point, my statement still applies, but to both of you.
Thanks for support is what that meant.
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Panthrax Oblivion wrote:demens grimwulff wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Ok here we go. I'm young an my bible knowledge is pretty small but I will give you context and explain the ones I understand. When you get older, see if your bigoted opinions remain. As someone who has suffered threats of violence, failed college classes, had people threaten to pull work from the company I work for, and watched friends commit suicide from their own harrasement, solely because of a sexual preference one is born with, your opinion in this thread reflects the lack of maturity and experience that you admit to not having. Get out of the surbabanite bubble and see the world. You will change. PLAYSTTION is explaining his point through a Christian perspective and interpreting all the Biblical passages to shed some light that God is not as cruel as everyone thinks. How does this make him immature? If anything, you are for attacking his beliefs. Give your opinion, let each person believe what they want to, and go back to more important things than getting salty on a silly thread
You know what you're right! Even though I think it's out right stupid to pigeon hole your perspective of life into a centralized belief but hey freedom of speech and all that good stuff.
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PLAYSTTION wrote:
I understand my mind is not fully there yet but my faith is my own. My family started it but I have taken it up.
1 Timothy 4:12
[ESV]
Let no one despise you for your youth, but set the believers an example in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith, in purity.
[NSV]
Don't let anyone look down on you because you are young, but set an example for the believers in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith and in purity.
Profound, but misguided.
I am not looking down on you because of your age, I am just pointing out that your bigoted opinions will change in time, as your exposure to the world has been limited. Much like discussions in public forums, I am sure.
If a 40 year old had said the same, I would have responded in the same manner... your opinions reflect that of someone whow has not spent time amongst the world. Your otherization of homosexuality is, in part, how this is easily recognizeable.
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Eruditus 920 wrote:Well, it's official. You can now post anything you want in GD. The Locker Room is dead. This is the worst thread I have ever read here. If you live long enough, one becomes aware of one singular universal truth: it is pointless to discuss religion and politics in mixed company. They are the most personal of topics, and you will never change someone's mind. I am pleased, however, that my Great State of Texas has been referenced as it is the only truly relevant US state. There's Texas, then everyone else. There is no ambivalence. No one ever brags about being from Delaware. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbJC6recwOQ
Houston, you?
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PLAYSTTION wrote:Moochie Cricket wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:"God created everything" that includes gays you bible dwellers He also gave us marriage between 1 man and 1 woman. He also does not give you a temptation you cannot overcome. GÇ£I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.GÇ¥ (1 Timothy 2:12) GÇ£This is what the Lord Almighty says... GÇÿNow go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.GÇÖGÇ¥ (1 Samuel 15:3) GÇ£Do not allow a sorceress to live.GÇ¥ (Exodus 22:18) GÇÿTake your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt-offering on one of the mountains that I shall show you.GÇÖ (Genesis 22:2) GÇ£Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord.GÇ¥ (Ephesians 5:22) GÇ£Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel.GÇ¥ (1 Peter 2:18) If this is what God is, then FUCKTHATNOISE. Ok here we go. I'm young an my bible knowledge is pretty small but I will give you context and explain the ones I understand. 1. I haven't read much in that part and would need to look into it. 2. That was a historical recount not a "Go kill your neibours kids, pet, and wife". 3. Again I'm not familiar with that area. 4. You know that was a test of faith right? He didn't actually kill him? 5. Sigh, is this such a bad thing? I'm pretty sure it says husbands submit to your wives also. It is an equal relationship. 6. Slave meant worker or employee. And you should always respect and obey the people above you even if they are cruel. And with nowadays version of slavery you should do the same. If I was a black slave 200 years ago I would be angry at my master but I would try my best to obey and respect him. I would pray for his heart to change. I may have misspoken or put something untrue here but this is what my limited knowledge can explain to you. God bless!
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PLAYSTTION wrote:I compared a sin with a sin in a relatable analogy. Again, I do not claim to be all knowing on this topic .
And my point there was if a friend was going down a bad path...
It was the only non-christian example I had, as adultery and other things aren't as severe to non-believers.
Wow.
... wow.
Ummm... wow...
I... wow. /done
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PLAYSTTION wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:homosexuality is a sin Ah, yes. I remember that line. "Man shall not lie with man as he does a women. It is an abomination." Notice how it doesn't explain why. No suporting argument, no reasoning whatsoever. Kinda sounds like, I dunno, someone's opinion. Just maybe. Give me the verse or ask someone who knows this better than me. It also says marriage is to be between a man and a woman. And if the verse has God saying it who are we to judge God?
Well, God also states that **** victims must marry their rapist after the rapist has paid her father for her.
Deuteronomy 22:28-29
"If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives."
The verse of god. But I'd make a solid wager that you would have disagreed with it had I made a push to get such a law ratified that rapists pay a fine and marry their victims not knowing where the the verse came from.
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demens grimwulff wrote:Eruditus 920 wrote:Well, it's official. You can now post anything you want in GD. The Locker Room is dead. This is the worst thread I have ever read here. If you live long enough, one becomes aware of one singular universal truth: it is pointless to discuss religion and politics in mixed company. They are the most personal of topics, and you will never change someone's mind. I am pleased, however, that my Great State of Texas has been referenced as it is the only truly relevant US state. There's Texas, then everyone else. There is no ambivalence. No one ever brags about being from Delaware. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbJC6recwOQ Houston, you?
Dallas!
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Moochie Cricket wrote:GÇ£Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel.GÇ¥ (1 Peter 2:18) You sure that isn't from Amarrian scripture? I may be wrong but the Amarr faith has some very distant roots to the Abrahamic religions.
Allegedly the Amarr faith was an offshoot of the Unified Catholic Church but we have no idea if that's related to Catholicism as we know it today.
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Eruditus 920 wrote:
Dallas!
Mmmm... I love NE Dallas...
Dallas is like a clean, more refined, and gnerally nicer version of Houston :/
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demens grimwulff wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:I compared a sin with a sin in a relatable analogy. Again, I do not claim to be all knowing on this topic .
And my point there was if a friend was going down a bad path...
It was the only non-christian example I had, as adultery and other things aren't as severe to non-believers. Wow. ... wow. Ummm... wow... I... wow. /done
I clarified more in an edit to that.
" I used an extreme to get my point across"
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PLAYSTTION wrote:I clarified more in an edit to that.
" I used an extreme to get my point across"
NEVER use an extreme case when discussing a topic.
Just a tip.
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Eruditus 920 wrote:demens grimwulff wrote:Eruditus 920 wrote:Well, it's official. You can now post anything you want in GD. The Locker Room is dead. This is the worst thread I have ever read here. If you live long enough, one becomes aware of one singular universal truth: it is pointless to discuss religion and politics in mixed company. They are the most personal of topics, and you will never change someone's mind. I am pleased, however, that my Great State of Texas has been referenced as it is the only truly relevant US state. There's Texas, then everyone else. There is no ambivalence. No one ever brags about being from Delaware. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbJC6recwOQ Houston, you? Dallas!
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demens grimwulff wrote:Eruditus 920 wrote:
Dallas!
Mmmm... I love NE Dallas... Dallas is like a clean, more refined, and gnerally nicer version of Houston :/
I'm in the suburbs now but Big D is home, where I was born.
Houston is good times, crazy zoning laws though.
Now if the Longhorns could just get a quarterback...
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Daddrobit wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:homosexuality is a sin Ah, yes. I remember that line. "Man shall not lie with man as he does a women. It is an abomination." Notice how it doesn't explain why. No suporting argument, no reasoning whatsoever. Kinda sounds like, I dunno, someone's opinion. Just maybe. Give me the verse or ask someone who knows this better than me. It also says marriage is to be between a man and a woman. And if the verse has God saying it who are we to judge God? Well, God also states that **** victims must marry their rapist after the rapist has paid her father for her. Deuteronomy 22:28-29 "If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives." The verse of god. But I'd make a solid wager that you would have disagreed with it had I made a push to get such a law ratified that rapists pay a fine and marry their victims not knowing where the the verse came from.
Once again, I'm not an expert, especially on this one since it's touchy. BUT here is what Ive heard on this and think about it.
I do not trust my opinion on this one so I will direct you o asking the internet. That is where I heard about this verse and I think Ravi Zacharias spoke about it. Anyway look itup and it will clear it up for you.
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Dzago Sevatarion wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Moochie Cricket wrote:GÇ£Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel.GÇ¥ (1 Peter 2:18) You sure that isn't from Amarrian scripture? I may be wrong but the Amarr faith has some very distant roots to the Abrahamic religions. Allegedly the Amarr faith was an offshoot of the Unified Catholic Church but we have no idea if that's related to Catholicism as we know it today. Also iirc this information came from Gallente sources so it's pretty iffy from an impartiality standpoint.
It's verified by True Adamance...which is totally believable since that dude is a freaking collection of all things lore related.
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Eruditus 920 wrote:I'm in the suburbs now but Big D is home, where I was born.
Houston is good times, crazy zoning laws though.
Now if the Longhorns could just get a quarterback...
Houston zoning can only be understood if you're a lawyer or under large doses of drugs.
F-Aggies recruitment is too strong... UT will have a hard time recruiting strong blood :/
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PLAYSTTION wrote:who are we to judge God?
Well, let's see...
According to the way the story flows, God created everything, and sometimes drops some magic or communicates with his favorite humans. Never does he directly take control of someone's actions via mind control. He always speaks to them or affects the environment around them. What I'm saying is, we are human beings capable of independent thought. We can question the motives and opinions of anyone, including the creator.
So yeah, I'm judging him right now. I think he should wake up and tell his followers to stop being intolerant and stop using an old storybook as a reference guide. Seriously, it's full of ideals that don't apply to today's society, and work better with ancient times. Ya know, when it was written.
But I'll admit, religion is an elaborate system. It's perfectly designed to take advantage of human psychology and insure loyalty to the ideals written by people who want everyone to think the same way. That's pretty much what happened. That's what people do, they want everyone to think like them. They'll go to any lengths to achieve it, even violence, AKA the Crusades, ISIS, etc..
One thing I find very interesting is that we all know that arguing about religion is pointless, but we do it anyway. I suppose having the opportunity to organize our thoughts on the matter helps solidify and expand our stance on it. Or we just want to be right and wave it around. Probably that one.
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demens grimwulff wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:
I understand my mind is not fully there yet but my faith is my own. My family started it but I have taken it up.
1 Timothy 4:12
[ESV]
Let no one despise you for your youth, but set the believers an example in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith, in purity.
[NSV]
Don't let anyone look down on you because you are young, but set an example for the believers in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith and in purity.
Profound, but misguided. I am not looking down on you because of your age, I am just pointing out that your bigoted opinions will change in time, as your exposure to the world has been limited. Much like discussions in public forums, I am sure. If a 40 year old had said the same, I would have responded in the same manner... your opinions reflect that of someone whow has not spent time amongst the world. Your otherization of homosexuality is, in part, how this is easily recognizeable.
I spent one year of school being put down and treated like dirt for being Christian. One kid turned every one of my friends against me. I lost my best friend after 10 years. I never once mistreated them and only ever showed love. I took it all and moved on after that year with help from the bible. I forgive them as much as I can and pray for them to see the truth.
I know there is WAY more to come especially in these times (as I'm sure every generation said) but I will stick to my beliefs.
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Posted - 2015.06.26 19:23:00 -
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Sergeant Sazu wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:who are we to judge God? Well, let's see... According to the way the story flows, God created everything, and sometimes drops some magic or communicates with his favorite humans. Never does he directly take control of someone's actions via mind control. He always speaks to them or affects the environment around them. What I'm saying is, we are human beings capable of independent thought. We can question the motives and opinions of anyone, including the creator. So yeah, I'm judging him right now. I think he should wake up and tell his followers to stop being intolerant and stop using an old storybook as a reference guide. Seriously, it's full of ideals that don't apply to today's society, and work better with ancient times. Ya know, when it was written. But I'll admit, religion is an elaborate system. It's perfectly designed to take advantage of human psychology and insure loyalty to the ideals written by people who want everyone to think the same way. That's pretty much what happened. That's what people do, they want everyone to think like them. They'll go to any lengths to achieve it, even violence, AKA the Crusades, ISIS, etc.. One thing I find very interesting is that we all know that arguing about religion is pointless, but we do it anyway. I suppose having the opportunity to organize our thoughts on the matter helps solidify and expand our stance on it. Or we just want to be right and wave it around. Probably that one.
Yes God gave us free will to do whatever we want. Even judge him, but we shouldn't, who are we to judge the creator?
If you look deeper in the bible you will see it does apply to todays society. The crusades were to claim the holy land as far as I know not force religion upon people. And ISIS is an Islamic group and so far no muslims have showed up here so forget about that, their religion is completely different.
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
7
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Posted - 2015.06.26 19:23:00 -
[104] - Quote
He's right, I'm inherently selfish when it comes to reach arounds.
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
12
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Posted - 2015.06.26 19:23:00 -
[105] - Quote
Guys, stop feeding the troll. I made that mistake already. Don't you do that as well. He gets stronger when you feed him.
In fact, somewhere in this world it is already past midnight. Do you know what that means?
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Panthrax Oblivion
256
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Posted - 2015.06.26 19:27:00 -
[106] - Quote
Maken Tosch wrote:Guys, stop feeding the troll. I made that mistake already. Don't you do that as well. He gets stronger when you feed him.
In fact, somewhere in this world it is already past midnight. Do you know what that means?
That it's way past your bedtime?
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
7
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Posted - 2015.06.26 19:28:00 -
[107] - Quote
PLAYSTTION wrote:demens grimwulff wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:
I understand my mind is not fully there yet but my faith is my own. My family started it but I have taken it up.
1 Timothy 4:12
[ESV]
Let no one despise you for your youth, but set the believers an example in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith, in purity.
[NSV]
Don't let anyone look down on you because you are young, but set an example for the believers in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith and in purity.
Profound, but misguided. I am not looking down on you because of your age, I am just pointing out that your bigoted opinions will change in time, as your exposure to the world has been limited. Much like discussions in public forums, I am sure. If a 40 year old had said the same, I would have responded in the same manner... your opinions reflect that of someone whow has not spent time amongst the world. Your otherization of homosexuality is, in part, how this is easily recognizeable. I spent one year of school being put down and treated like dirt for being Christian. One kid turned every one of my friends against me. I lost my best friend after 10 years. I never once mistreated them and only ever showed love. I took it all and moved on after that year with help from the bible. I forgive them as much as I can and pray for them to see the truth. I know there is WAY more to come especially in these times (as I'm sure every generation said) but I will stick to my beliefs.
That's a sad thing to hear, but ultimately a good thing, those people were not your friends especially that one of 10 years. I can tell you now, everyone of my friends that I've known for over two years I'd take a bullet for and give all the money in my wallet to if they really needed it. Best to move on and use that as a self building experience.
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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Nemo Malus Felix
2
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Posted - 2015.06.26 19:33:00 -
[108] - Quote
Maken Tosch wrote:Guys, stop feeding the troll. I made that mistake already. Don't you do that as well. He gets stronger when you feed him.
In fact, somewhere in this world it is already past midnight. Do you know what that means?
That they turn evil? That they multiply?
I can't remember. I haven't seen that movie in a while.
Phoebe Cates was hot though.
"Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
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Petra 222 SoM
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
95
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Posted - 2015.06.26 19:33:00 -
[109] - Quote
Do you ever look up at jesus' naked body and wonder how big the that holy serpent he is hiding under his skirt?
Do you think he has a mushroom or an anteater?
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Travis Stanush
Y.A.M.A.H
No Context
549
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Posted - 2015.06.26 19:34:00 -
[110] - Quote
Petra 222 SoM wrote:Do you ever look up at jesus' naked body and wonder how big the that holy serpent he is hiding under his skirt?
Do you think he has a mushroom or an anteater?
well he was jewish so def shroom
No I will not show you where they touched me!!!
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Void Echo
Helix Terrestrial Operations LLC
2
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Posted - 2015.06.26 19:43:00 -
[111] - Quote
demens grimwulff wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Ok here we go. I'm young an my bible knowledge is pretty small but I will give you context and explain the ones I understand. When you get older, see if your bigoted opinions remain. As someone who has suffered threats of violence, failed college classes, had people threaten to pull work from the company I work for, and watched friends commit suicide from their own harrasement, solely because of a sexual preference one is born with, your opinion in this thread reflects the lack of maturity and experience that you admit to not having. Get out of the surbabanite bubble and see the world. You will change.
Correction, your not born with any sexual instinct, straight or otherwise, I wasn't born thinking about getting some p***y or a**, your born with the Natural instinct to survive only. The environment and areas your surrounded by affect your development.
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DUST Fiend
17
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Posted - 2015.06.26 19:52:00 -
[112] - Quote
PLAYSTTION wrote:As individuals. My belief is they shouldn't be in a romantic relationship in the first place.
And my belief is that instead of dropping you on your head repeatedly as a child, your parents should have just tossed you off the cliff |
Sergeant Sazu
Mantodea MC
613
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Posted - 2015.06.26 19:54:00 -
[113] - Quote
Maken Tosch wrote:Guys, stop feeding the troll. I made that mistake already. Don't you do that as well. He gets stronger when you feed him.
Agreed, I'm done for now. As I said, it just feels good to wave my opinion around.
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PLAYSTTION
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
1
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Posted - 2015.06.26 20:05:00 -
[114] - Quote
Nocturnal Soul wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:demens grimwulff wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:
I understand my mind is not fully there yet but my faith is my own. My family started it but I have taken it up.
1 Timothy 4:12
[ESV]
Let no one despise you for your youth, but set the believers an example in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith, in purity.
[NSV]
Don't let anyone look down on you because you are young, but set an example for the believers in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith and in purity.
Profound, but misguided. I am not looking down on you because of your age, I am just pointing out that your bigoted opinions will change in time, as your exposure to the world has been limited. Much like discussions in public forums, I am sure. If a 40 year old had said the same, I would have responded in the same manner... your opinions reflect that of someone whow has not spent time amongst the world. Your otherization of homosexuality is, in part, how this is easily recognizeable. I spent one year of school being put down and treated like dirt for being Christian. One kid turned every one of my friends against me. I lost my best friend after 10 years. I never once mistreated them and only ever showed love. I took it all and moved on after that year with help from the bible. I forgive them as much as I can and pray for them to see the truth. I know there is WAY more to come especially in these times (as I'm sure every generation said) but I will stick to my beliefs. That's a sad thing to hear, but ultimately a good thing, those people were not your friends especially that one of 10 years. I can tell you now, everyone of my friends that I've known for over two years I'd take a bullet for and give all the money in my wallet to if they really needed it. Best to move on and use that as a self building experience.
That was the point of the story. My friend of 10 years was a mormon but weak and not personally yet. The guy swooped in and brought him into a life of sin but I was stronger and yes, built myself up. The bible says something about that that has escaped me at the moment. Yea I moved on, the next year was high school where I got new friends. I surpassed the ring leader in every skill at school (including sports) and have more friends than him. Without God I would have been just as pathetic as him.
I'm sure when he's older he will change his opinions to and realize that the generous guy doing volunteer work for free in some disease ridden country is mush happier than him.
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.06.26 20:14:00 -
[115] - Quote
Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:A sad dark day for my country And my opinion of you just went down the sh+»t hole. And my percentage of caring about your opinion of me stayed the same....at 0
You cared enough to reply, so I can see through your lie.
The comment was potent enough that it affected you with a need to try and defend yourself, that means it was at least a 3-5 out of 10 on your caring meter.
Your comment, whether you realize it or not, is also genetically based... Which essentially equates it to being racist in nature.
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Panthrax Oblivion
256
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Posted - 2015.06.26 20:22:00 -
[116] - Quote
DUST Fiend wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:As individuals. My belief is they shouldn't be in a romantic relationship in the first place. And my belief is that instead of dropping you on your head repeatedly as a child, your parents should have just tossed you off the cliff
Is that what happened with you?
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Panthrax Oblivion
256
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Posted - 2015.06.26 20:25:00 -
[117] - Quote
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:A sad dark day for my country And my opinion of you just went down the sh+»t hole. And my percentage of caring about your opinion of me stayed the same....at 0 You cared enough to reply, so I can see through your lie. The comment was potent enough that it affected you with a need to try and defend yourself, that means it was at least a 3-5 out of 10 on your caring meter. Your comment, whether you realize it or not, is also genetically based... Which essentially equates it to being racist in nature.
Heyy more ratings that don't affect my life
I really don't care because I'll never see any of you in my life and if I do, u won't know who I am. That's why most of the people fling **** here because nobody in here knows there real identity nor could hurt them
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DUST Fiend
17
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Posted - 2015.06.26 20:30:00 -
[118] - Quote
Panthrax Oblivion wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:As individuals. My belief is they shouldn't be in a romantic relationship in the first place. And my belief is that instead of dropping you on your head repeatedly as a child, your parents should have just tossed you off the cliff Is that what happened with you?
I'm still falling off this damn cliff. Apparently there's no bottom. Thank god I get Wi-Fi down here. |
JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game
752
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Posted - 2015.06.26 21:02:00 -
[119] - Quote
tbh I don't care they can do whatever they want its not me nor is it affecting my beliefs, same with Kylie Jenner. Frankly dear I just don't give a ****.
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P14GU3
UNIVERSAL C.A.R.N.A.G.E
1
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Posted - 2015.06.26 21:09:00 -
[120] - Quote
So all I got out of this thread is that homosexuals can marry, but the Easter Bunny - Santa Claus God doesn't think it is right.
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Thaddeus Reynolds
Facepunch Security
294
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Posted - 2015.06.26 21:09:00 -
[121] - Quote
Maken Tosch wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:
1. I haven't read much in that part and would need to look into it.
2. That was a historical recount not a "Go kill your neibours kids, pet, and wife".
3. Again I'm not familiar with that area.
4. You know that was a test of faith right? He didn't actually kill him?
5. Sigh, is this such a bad thing? I'm pretty sure it says husbands submit to your wives also. It is an equal relationship.
6. Slave meant worker or employee. And you should always respect and obey the people above you even if they are cruel. And with nowadays version of slavery you should do the same. If I was a black slave 200 years ago I would be angry at my master but I would try my best to obey and respect him. I would pray for his heart to change.
I may have misspoken or put something untrue here but this is what my limited knowledge can explain to you.
God bless!
Oh here we go. I'll bite the troll bait. 1. It all boils down to sexism. Some men just don't like the idea of women being in control. Period. 2. The bible is not a history book. Never was. Never will. 3. If you think about it, a god does some magic, no one complains. Someone else does magic, everyone complains? Double standards at work here. 4. If Jehovah is an all knowing creator god, he wouldn't need to test anyone because he would already know the results before the test even started. There is no point in this test. If anything this just tells me that Jehovah didn't know the guy well enough and had to test him. Therefore, Jehovah is not all knowing and thus never all powerful. 5. Nah. It's just more sexism. Read the bible some more. 6. Nah. Slaves weren't even paid back then. Although to be fair if I recall correctly, back when the Roman Empire was still pagan, slavery use to be seen as a means of gaining freedom. You work for a master for a set time and then you earn your freedom. In other words, they were indentured servants. Those are completely different from slaves. Keep in mind the Southern States use to use this part of the bible before the American Civil War as an excuse for owning slaves. Those slaves were never set free and were never paid until after the war. I will let you off for now as you were kind enough to claim to not understand everything. I suggest you read the bible from front to back and see for yourself how F-ed up it is. PS: In case anyone asks, I'm not atheist. I'm Gnostic (not to be confused with Agnostic).
Ugh...I'm going to start out by saying, secular government is secular, and while I hate the redefinition of words (in this case Marriage) and will resist the redefinition of the term in vernacular...since it has a legal definition as well, that definition must be extended to all persons. (In other-words, I support the spirit of Marriage and "Gay" Marriage being treated the same, but would rather them both be labeled as Civil Unions to avoid redefining a word...since I like words with more static definitions because it avoids problems that will be encountered later in this post)
That being said...I feel I need to provide context to the passages to which you responded to the responses to:
(Bear in mind, that these are intended to be informative to the best of my knowledge, not inflammatory or Offensive, and I apologize if they come off as inflammatory or offensive, it was not the original intent, and as tone can be difficult to convey over the internet I want to get this stated before it is read)
1. Have you considered the cultural context in which it was written (Ephesus Somewhere between 62-66AD)? If you read Galatians 3:28 and Ephesians 5:21 (Which was years after the letter to Timothy was sent) it seems to paint a different light, therefore we can surmise that it was more of an instruction for that particular church at that particular time. Another thing worth noting is that the word translated as "Authority" had so many meanings at the time (and many more, some of which didn't come into usage until 300 AD) that some scholars disagree on what the passage actually says.
2. Point...the purpose isn't to inform of specifics of events, lots of The Bible is written in a narrative/lyrical form (as was the custom in the cultures that wrote it), making much of it difficult to distinguish fact from embellishment...although I must admit, that is a very effective way of doing warfare...raze everything to the ground, leave no survivors to seek revenge.
3 Ok...I'm a little rusty on my Hebrew, so maybe someone who is more familiar with the language can help out here, but if I'm remembering correctly, it would refer to one who used "magic" to bring harm to someone (the term magic could range from a number of things including stage magic, supernatural abilities, medicines, or poisons)
4 ...I don't have the time or text-space to adequately respond to your response on this one...but here's one possible explanation without nearly enough space dedicated to it. Imagine a being could see all possible outcomes to all possible situations at all times...this being would be all-knowing would they not? They know every possible way events can turn out, as well as how events will turn out, and knows that what will turn out will turn out...but by the nature of an entity that exists outside of the universe, Jehovah would be difficult to understand/explain...but I lack the time and qualifications
5 Like the verse immediately before the one you're talking about...or the entire section/chapter? Also see Galatians 3:28
6. Ignoring the historical context in which passages where written is the very reason they where and are being exploited...passages from any number of documents that people believe in can be taken out of context and used to exploit others, they are powerful tools and like most tools can be used as weapons
I encourage people to go and look these up for themselves, to fact check me, since I've been known to be wrong
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2015.06.26 21:11:00 -
[122] - Quote
Daddrobit wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:A sad dark day for my country A very sad day. A country that was once formed on principles of the bible (even tho they didn't really follow it) is increasing the distance more and more each day. BUT THATS NONE OF MY BUSINESS. What the ever loving ****? The Treaty of Tripoli, Article 11: "The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion..." Written at the end of George Washington's second term, and signed during John Adams. Congratulations to all those finally gaining the equal right to legally love another human being!
Yeah, but those boys said it themselves: they were likely to be the best government that country would ever have.
GÇ£If I could conceive that the general government might ever be so administered as to render the liberty of conscience insecure, I beg you will be persuaded, that no one would be more zealous than myself to establish effectual barriers against the horrors of spiritual tyranny, and every species of religious persecution.GÇ¥
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Balistyc Farshot
MONSTER SYNERGY
234
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Posted - 2015.06.26 21:22:00 -
[123] - Quote
The main point is that this can no longer be a debate point for the next election. Now they can cover real issues!
The fact that equal rights are still being debated in presidential platforms is idiotic. They need to focus on things like world economy, trade disputes, education reform, crime, direction of health care reform, ...
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Who hasn't been caught by a cute little female scout doing this?
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Quasar Storm
0uter.heaven
548
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Posted - 2015.06.26 21:40:00 -
[124] - Quote
It is a great thing that this has happened. More people can start being themselves and live their lives. Equal rights is one more step towards true social evolution of man. Its the path I hope for mankind everyday, To walk side-by-side and help one another. To build a future together.
As for God/Bible/Religion, None of that is of any importance to this matter. To be honest, I question the existence of God. Always have. It gets worse as I age. The more I look around, The more I see things that should not be. Famine, Disease, Poverty, War. What kind of God lets this happen? What kind of all-knowing God creates life knowing it would wrought such things. Its very confusing. In fact, There are SO many confusing things about God, I refuse to let him be the scapegoat to the unknown.
In the past, Humans have always used God and the supernatural to explain the oddities of nature. "It MUST have been God", They say. But with time, We've come to understand that there are laws of the universe that govern our existence. Therefore, As our knowledge grows, I'm sure there will be less and less things that we hold a Religious grudge over.
BUT, Just because I believe in Science, Doesn't mean it gives me the right to judge religious folk. Doesn't give me the right to judge anyone period. One major thing that I've come to pass is to just let people believe in what they want. Let them live the way they choose. Some people seek faith, Some others seek truth. Doesn't matter what race, orientation, religious stature you are. You're a human being in the end, And that's all that really matters.
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PLAYSTTION
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
1
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Posted - 2015.06.26 21:40:00 -
[125] - Quote
Thaddeus Reynolds wrote:
I encourage people to go and look these up for themselves, to fact check me, since I've been known to be wrong
lol that quote was so big I had to delete all of it but this to type
Anyway thanks for clarifying this to him. I had been typing for a good hour and as I've said I'm not an expert and may be wrong.
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Jathniel
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2015.06.26 22:06:00 -
[126] - Quote
This thread topic probably belongs in "The Locker Room" section... just sayin... |
maybe deadcatz
Horizons' Edge
No Context
242
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Posted - 2015.06.26 22:18:00 -
[127] - Quote
Nocturnal Soul wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:A sad dark day for my country And my opinion of you just went down the sh+»t hole.
Now im mad at you pan.
Ewar? What's that? Some kind of new crutch? Learn how to use your eyes and ears you maggots. Batteskirts for the win!!
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
11
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Posted - 2015.06.26 22:28:00 -
[128] - Quote
The only God I know is that Suspended Plasma in my Assault Rifle mag.
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Commander Noctus
Gallente Loyalist
238
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Posted - 2015.06.26 22:38:00 -
[129] - Quote
*comes in to voice opinion on topic: sees this is slowly driveling into a religious/bigoted debate: quickly skulks off, shaking head sadly*
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noob cavman
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
2
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Posted - 2015.06.26 22:48:00 -
[130] - Quote
im glad I have this little alchemical sign for sulphur on my wrist.
Leveyan philosophy best philosophy.
I want to be a caveman!
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Omega Nox
Consolidated Dust
104
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Posted - 2015.06.26 23:07:00 -
[131] - Quote
demens grimwulff wrote:REDBACK96USMC wrote:Well Technically it isnt legal yet, but the legal precedent has been set for States to do so if they please. In the end it is still up to the States to decide.
I assume States like Texas and such will still not recognize it internally since they don't give a crap about federal funding. Not true: ruling states that the 14th amendment is extended to cover gay marriage, overriding state opinions on the matter. Texas' Attorney General says to not issue, but he has no legal basis for the claim and it will be forced in court.
lol, 14th Amendment it only took 5 lawyers 160+ years to see what none had seen before.
The Supreme court is the greatest threat to our democracy today-320 million people being told what is the law by 5 liberal New York elitists-and none of them is a real-American.
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Pierced Daddy
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2015.06.26 23:11:00 -
[132] - Quote
demens grimwulff wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:"This several thousand year old book says dehumanizing people is okay, so it must be okay."
I'm getting really pissed off at the homophobes in this thread. Keep cherrypicking from your storybook.
Oh, and before anyone gets any ideas; I'm your average straight, non-religious, over-privileged white teenager. Except many of my friends are not heterosexual, and I'm trying to fathom why people want to stick their nose in other people's lives and tell them how to feel and what they're allowed to do. But, you know, "God loves everyone, except for those gay people. Make sure they don't have basic human rights because the way you roll is the 'right way' and anyone who doesn't is invalid."
...Whoa. I got salty.
9/10, you got me. GG I made the post once I noticed my qqcup was empty. It has filled up several times since then, and my life force has been sustained.
So your life force is sucking other liquids from men?
Where do I sign up? I'm not looking for a relationship.
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Thokk Nightshade
Montana Militia
940
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Posted - 2015.06.26 23:15:00 -
[133] - Quote
Balistyc Farshot wrote:The main point is that this can no longer be a debate point for the next election. Now they can cover real issues!
The fact that equal rights are still being debated in presidential platforms is idiotic. They need to focus on things like world economy, trade disputes, education reform, crime, direction of health care reform, ...
Holy hell thank you. Oh wait, they can still debate ********* so they don't have to tackle real issues. Yo, SCOTUS, you mind handling that one as well so the asshats in Washington have to do real work in between their 200 days off a year?
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Aeon Amadi
Negative-Feedback.
Negative-Feedback
11
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Posted - 2015.06.26 23:16:00 -
[134] - Quote
demens grimwulff wrote:Daddrobit wrote:
What the ever loving ****?
The Treaty of Tripoli, Article 11: "The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion..."
Written at the end of George Washington's second term, and signed during John Adams.
Congratulations to all those finally gaining the equal right to legally love another human being!
totally on topic important NF business: Dad, next time you are on, NF requests your soothing voice to grace us with the reading of various Kain Spero fan fiction. Aeon Amadi tried, but it isn't the same as your buttery smooth voice.
Well. **** you too then.
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Thokk Nightshade wrote:Balistyc Farshot wrote:The main point is that this can no longer be a debate point for the next election. Now they can cover real issues!
The fact that equal rights are still being debated in presidential platforms is idiotic. They need to focus on things like world economy, trade disputes, education reform, crime, direction of health care reform, ... Holy hell thank you. Oh wait, they can still debate ********* so they don't have to tackle real issues. Yo, SCOTUS, you mind handling that one as well so the asshats in Washington have to do real work in between their 200 days off a year?
I can't put M a r I j u a n a on the forums? Seriously?
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
9
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4lbert Wesker wrote:No matter if you are homosexual or heterosexual,I hate you all.
You're not being all-inclusive, Sir, there's more demographics than "just" homo and hetero to hate!
Remember, equal rights for all, that means an equal share of your rage!
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Omega Nox
Consolidated Dust
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demens grimwulff wrote:REDBACK96USMC wrote:
I think you should read the State Actor Doctrine and rethink that.
State action doctrine is the American legal concept that the protections of the Constitution GÇö such as the Fourteenth and First Amendments GÇö only apply with any real strength to the coercive power of the state against the individual, rather than the coercive power of the individual against the individual. From a legal website... your interpretation is wrong. 14th amendment is upheld, states are required to marry. Sorry.
Where in the Constitution is marriage mentioned? It is not and therefore up to the individual states to regulate.
Using the 14th Amendment is laughable and shows a level of legal incompetence that is impeachable.
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Magnus Belmont
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
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I'm don't even have to read any posts to know there is a "God hates homo's" from people too ignorant to have actually read a bible.
That would be like saying the bible says, God hates people who drink, steal, lie, cheat, and so on and so forth. Which it clearly does not, it's the act the person is doing that is looked down upon in the book, not the person themselves.
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Dead Man's Game
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postapo wastelander wrote:
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Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Maken Tosch wrote:Moochie Cricket wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:"God created everything" that includes gays you bible dwellers He also gave us marriage between 1 man and 1 woman. He also does not give you a temptation you cannot overcome. GÇ£I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.GÇ¥ (1 Timothy 2:12) GÇ£This is what the Lord Almighty says... GÇÿNow go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.GÇÖGÇ¥ (1 Samuel 15:3) GÇ£Do not allow a sorceress to live.GÇ¥ (Exodus 22:18) GÇÿTake your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt-offering on one of the mountains that I shall show you.GÇÖ (Genesis 22:2) GÇ£Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord.GÇ¥ (Ephesians 5:22) GÇ£Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel.GÇ¥ (1 Peter 2:18) If this is what God is, then FUCKTHATNOISE. /orders an extra-large bag of popcorn
Save some of that popcorn for me
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Consolidated Dust
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REDBACK96USMC wrote:Well Technically it isnt legal yet, but the legal precedent has been set for States to do so if they please. In the end it is still up to the States to decide.
I assume States like Texas and such will still not recognize it internally since they don't give a crap about federal funding.
GOD BLESS the Republic of Texas!
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Here's a little thought, for the people who are actually pious and believe.
Judge not, lest ye be judged.
Is it your place to condemn someone else?
Christians are quick to say god loves everyone... then turn around and point and almost in the same breath they say God hates (insert unfavored demographic here).
Judge not, lest ye be judged.
this is my last comment in this thread.
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Thokk Nightshade
Montana Militia
940
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Posted - 2015.06.27 00:16:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Here's a little thought, for the people who are actually pious and believe.
Judge not, lest ye be judged.
Is it your place to condemn someone else?
Christians are quick to say god loves everyone... then turn around and point and almost in the same breath they say God hates (insert unfavored demographic here).
Judge not, lest ye be judged.
this is my last comment in this thread.
Common sense, logic, and reason should be kept off these forums at all costs. Stop it Breakin. 
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Omega Nox
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.06.27 00:22:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:Daddrobit wrote:Lightning35 Delta514 wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:A sad dark day for my country A very sad day. A country that was once formed on principles of the bible (even tho they didn't really follow it) is increasing the distance more and more each day. BUT THATS NONE OF MY BUSINESS. What the ever loving ****? The Treaty of Tripoli, Article 11: "The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion..." Written at the end of George Washington's second term, and signed during John Adams. Congratulations to all those finally gaining the equal right to legally love another human being! Yeah, but those boys said it themselves: they were likely to be the best government that country would ever have. GÇ£If I could conceive that the general government might ever be so administered as to render the liberty of conscience insecure, I beg you will be persuaded, that no one would be more zealous than myself to establish effectual barriers against the horrors of spiritual tyranny, and every species of religious persecution.GÇ¥ ~Founding Father George Washington, letter to the United Baptist Chamber of Virginia, May 1789
Ya'll do realize that the Christian Churches will just not comply. Yes they will lose their tax exempt status, but in so doing will become the most powerful political entities in US history. They will, eclipse the unions in numbers, message and dollars.
Your 5 New York libtards, dressed in black robes, should never have taken the case-they had no legal standing in the first place.
O'bama should never attacked Bill Clinton's DOMA statute!
good luck dethocrats!
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Dreis Shadowweaver
0uter.heaven
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Posted - 2015.06.27 00:57:00 -
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Can someone explain to me the difference between a marriage and a civil union?
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Dzago Sevatarion
DUST University
Ivy League
36
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Posted - 2015.06.27 01:00:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Can someone explain to me the difference between a marriage and a civil union?
Nomenclature. |
Omega Nox
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.06.27 01:03:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Can someone explain to me the difference between a marriage and a civil union?
In a civil union you have the same legal protections that marriage conveys, at the employee, State level
In marriage you can create life.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
0uter.heaven
4
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Posted - 2015.06.27 01:06:00 -
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Dzago Sevatarion wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Can someone explain to me the difference between a marriage and a civil union? Nomenclature.
So what will change for same-sex couple's in the US following this ruling?
Also, is marriage a necessarily religious ceremony, or can you be married in a non-religious way?
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
0uter.heaven
4
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Posted - 2015.06.27 01:15:00 -
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demens grimwulff wrote:As someone who has watched friends commit suicide from their own harrasement, solely because of a sexual preference one is born with...
That hasn't been proven.
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Omega Nox
Consolidated Dust
104
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Posted - 2015.06.27 01:18:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Dzago Sevatarion wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Can someone explain to me the difference between a marriage and a civil union? Nomenclature. So what will change for same-sex couple's in the US following this ruling? Also, is marriage a necessarily religious ceremony, or can you be married in a non-religious way?
The problem is not marriage, the problem is the Federal government and the Supreme court creating law where it has no jurisdiction.
Our Constitution is written so that it expressly states what it has legal jurisdiction over. If the matter is not expressly described then the individual states have jurisdiction and the residents of that states vote on legislation.
The US is a Federal Republic and not a Democracy.
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
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Sergeant Sazu wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:homosexuality is a sin Ah, yes. I remember that line. "Man shall not lie with man as he does a women. It is an abomination." Notice how it doesn't explain why. No suporting argument, no reasoning whatsoever. Kinda sounds like, I dunno, someone's opinion. Just maybe.
And what about splitted hoof, do every that really big christians really not eat that.
Do ALL christians of US (and any other country) not eat pigs and any other of same kind hows bible told.
Fc\_/k you fecking fanatics.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Penumbra or something
7
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Posted - 2015.06.27 01:35:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:demens grimwulff wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Ok here we go. I'm young an my bible knowledge is pretty small but I will give you context and explain the ones I understand. When you get older, see if your bigoted opinions remain. As someone who has suffered threats of violence, failed college classes, had people threaten to pull work from the company I work for, and watched friends commit suicide from their own harrasement, solely because of a sexual preference one is born with, your opinion in this thread reflects the lack of maturity and experience that you admit to not having. Get out of the surbabanite bubble and see the world. You will change. Correction, your not born with any sexual instinct, straight or otherwise, I wasn't born thinking about getting some p***y or a**, your born with the Natural instinct to survive only. The environment and areas your surrounded by affect your development.
Actually, recent evidence states otherwise.
http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/science-behind-more-meaningful-understanding-sexual-orientation
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Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.06.27 01:36:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:homosexuality is a sin Ah, yes. I remember that line. "Man shall not lie with man as he does a women. It is an abomination." Notice how it doesn't explain why. No suporting argument, no reasoning whatsoever. Kinda sounds like, I dunno, someone's opinion. Just maybe. And what about splitted hoof, do every that really big christians really not eat that. Do ALL christians of US (and any other country) not eat pigs and any other of same kind hows bible told. Fc\_/k you fecking fanatics. BACON POWA
Bible told not you said.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Penumbra or something
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Posted - 2015.06.27 01:38:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:homosexuality is a sin Ah, yes. I remember that line. "Man shall not lie with man as he does a women. It is an abomination." Notice how it doesn't explain why. No suporting argument, no reasoning whatsoever. Kinda sounds like, I dunno, someone's opinion. Just maybe. And what about splitted hoof, do every that really big christians really not eat that. Do ALL christians of US (and any other country) not eat pigs and any other of same kind hows bible told. Fc\_/k you fecking fanatics. BACON POWA
Speaking of which: why just protests against gay marriage? Why not anti-pork and anti-shrimp protests? Fabric-mixing protests? Tattoo protests?
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Operative 1174 Uuali
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Oh boy! Now I'm just waiting until they make it legal to marry my horse. Bruce identifies as a woman; I identify as Wolverine. Where's my admantium claws?
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
7
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Posted - 2015.06.27 01:48:00 -
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Omega Nox wrote:demens grimwulff wrote:REDBACK96USMC wrote:
I think you should read the State Actor Doctrine and rethink that.
State action doctrine is the American legal concept that the protections of the Constitution GÇö such as the Fourteenth and First Amendments GÇö only apply with any real strength to the coercive power of the state against the individual, rather than the coercive power of the individual against the individual. From a legal website... your interpretation is wrong. 14th amendment is upheld, states are required to marry. Sorry. Where in the Constitution is marriage mentioned? It is not and therefore up to the individual states to regulate. Using the 14th Amendment is laughable and shows a level of legal incompetence that is impeachable.
The power of marriage is given to the state, that you are right. But when the state makes a law that infringes on the rights of the people given to them in the Constitution it becomes a federal problem.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
0uter.heaven
4
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Posted - 2015.06.27 01:48:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:demens grimwulff wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Ok here we go. I'm young an my bible knowledge is pretty small but I will give you context and explain the ones I understand. When you get older, see if your bigoted opinions remain. As someone who has suffered threats of violence, failed college classes, had people threaten to pull work from the company I work for, and watched friends commit suicide from their own harrasement, solely because of a sexual preference one is born with, your opinion in this thread reflects the lack of maturity and experience that you admit to not having. Get out of the surbabanite bubble and see the world. You will change. Correction, your not born with any sexual instinct, straight or otherwise, I wasn't born thinking about getting some p***y or a**, your born with the Natural instinct to survive only. The environment and areas your surrounded by affect your development.
I don't believe that. You're actually born with the natural instinct to survive AND REPRODUCE. This would mean that everyone is born with a predisposition to be sexually attracted to the opposite sex. This makes sense, right? After all, it is generally accepted that reproduction is the ultimate goal of any organism, and an instinctive predisposition to be sexually attracted to the opposite sex would aid in this.
I believe that there is a difference between homosexuals and heterosexuals, but I'd need to actually ASK people about this. This is just a theory though. I speculate that where a heterosexual male would be repulsed at the prospect of having sex with another man (because it would be pointless in regards to reproduction), a homosexual male would only be bored or uninterested at the prospect of having sex with a woman, rather than being disgusted and repulsed. This would be because of the natural sexual predisposition to the opposite sex.
How does this explain homosexuality? Well, I don't believe that people can be born homosexual, only with a natural sexual predisposition to the opposite sex, as explained above. I think that homosexuality develops as a result of upbringing. I think that if there are issues with a suitable male role model (a father) in the case of a boy, the boy may not develop a masculine gender identity correctly. I also speculate that a boy's desire to gain the approval of a male role model when young translates into wanting to sexually please other men when they grow up. This makes sense considering that the overwhelming majority of homosexual men have issues communicating with their fathers, or have other issues with the availability of a male role model when young. I realise that I've been mainly focusing on men, but I assume it would work similarly with females.
This is all just a theory however, and actual research would need to be carried out to corroborate it. I'd need to find out how homosexual men and women would feel about having sex with the opposite sex - whether they would feel disgusted or not. I'd also like to know the percentage of homosexual men who had 'daddy issues' when they were young. 
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Omega Nox
Consolidated Dust
104
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Posted - 2015.06.27 01:48:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Void Echo wrote:demens grimwulff wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:Ok here we go. I'm young an my bible knowledge is pretty small but I will give you context and explain the ones I understand. When you get older, see if your bigoted opinions remain. As someone who has suffered threats of violence, failed college classes, had people threaten to pull work from the company I work for, and watched friends commit suicide from their own harrasement, solely because of a sexual preference one is born with, your opinion in this thread reflects the lack of maturity and experience that you admit to not having. Get out of the surbabanite bubble and see the world. You will change. Correction, your not born with any sexual instinct, straight or otherwise, I wasn't born thinking about getting some p***y or a**, your born with the Natural instinct to survive only. The environment and areas your surrounded by affect your development. Actually, recent evidence states otherwise. http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/science-behind-more-meaningful-understanding-sexual-orientation
Respectfuly, your using the "epigenetics hypothesis" helps to prove not disprove his statement.
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
7
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Posted - 2015.06.27 02:03:00 -
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Omega Nox wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Dzago Sevatarion wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Can someone explain to me the difference between a marriage and a civil union? Nomenclature. So what will change for same-sex couple's in the US following this ruling? Also, is marriage a necessarily religious ceremony, or can you be married in a non-religious way? The problem is not marriage, the problem is the Federal government and the Supreme court creating law where it has no jurisdiction. Our Constitution is written so that it expressly states what it has legal jurisdiction over. If the matter is not expressly described then the individual states have jurisdiction and the residents of the individual states vote on legislation. The US is a Federal Republic and not a Democracy.
Again you are correct but when the rights of the citizen is being infringed upon and the Constitution is specific on what rights that have, which you should know, it becomes a federal problem. No matter how you try to justify your blatantly obvious disapproval of the subject you can't deny that what the states have been doing was a basic denial of human rights.
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
7
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Posted - 2015.06.27 02:05:00 -
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Omega Nox wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Dzago Sevatarion wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Can someone explain to me the difference between a marriage and a civil union? Nomenclature. So what will change for same-sex couple's in the US following this ruling? Also, is marriage a necessarily religious ceremony, or can you be married in a non-religious way? The problem is not marriage, the problem is the Federal government and the Supreme court creating law where it has no jurisdiction. Our Constitution is written so that it expressly states what it has legal jurisdiction over. If the matter is not expressly described then the individual states have jurisdiction and the residents of the individual states vote on legislation. The US is a Federal Republic and not a Democracy.
Again you are correct but when the rights of the citizen is being infringed upon and the Constitution is specific on what rights that is, which you should know, it becomes a federal problem. No matter how you try to justify your blatantly obvious disapproval of the subject you can't deny that what the states have been doing was a basic denial of human rights due to religious beliefs.
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Daddrobit
You Can Call Me Daddy
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Dzago Sevatarion wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Can someone explain to me the difference between a marriage and a civil union? Nomenclature. So what will change for same-sex couples in the US following this ruling? Also, is marriage a necessarily religious ceremony, or can you be married in a non-religious way?
Marrige can simply be a legal documentation of the, (hopefully permanent) coupling of two people and it comes with lots of benefits. Off the top of my head:
Hospital visitation rights
Ability to make a medical decision for your spouse if they become incapacitated and can not make it themselves
Ability to make calls on what happens to your spouse postmortem (autopsy, burial, cremation, etc.)
Inheritance rights in case of a spouses death
Lots of federal and state tax benefits
Ability to share employee insurance
Ability to file for insurance packages with "family" rates
Ability to live in housing areas designated "Families Only"
Ability to file for adoption
Ability to file for joint custody, visitation rights, and child support in the case of a divorce
Ability to take sick leave in the event of spousal sickness
Ability to take bereavement leave in the event of the death of a spouse
Ability to renew some legal documents like leases
These and more were all what was really being fought for by the same sex advocates. And it's what the people against were saying they had no right to obtain.
"All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others"
They aren't just fighting for a piece of paper saying "You're Married." They really are fighting for equal rights.
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Omega Nox
Consolidated Dust
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Omega Nox wrote:demens grimwulff wrote:REDBACK96USMC wrote:
I think you should read the State Actor Doctrine and rethink that.
State action doctrine is the American legal concept that the protections of the Constitution GÇö such as the Fourteenth and First Amendments GÇö only apply with any real strength to the coercive power of the state against the individual, rather than the coercive power of the individual against the individual. From a legal website... your interpretation is wrong. 14th amendment is upheld, states are required to marry. Sorry. Where in the Constitution is marriage mentioned? It is not and therefore up to the individual states to regulate. Using the 14th Amendment is laughable and shows a level of legal incompetence that is impeachable. The power of marriage is given to the state, that you are right. But when the state makes a law that infringes on the rights of the people given to them in the Constitution it becomes a federal problem.
The Constitution says nothing of marriage, and your rights come from the Bill of Rights which also does not mention marriage.
Marriage was and always covered by Common Law, not Statutory nor Constitutional.
It should be noted that Common Law, is older than history itself.
Now we have 5 liberal elitist, all from New York, pulling "rights" out of thin air, and telling 380 million citizens what the law is.
Am I the only person here that sees the tyrany in this?
The citizens are the boss in the US not some unelected harvard grad wearing a black robe!
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
1
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Omega Nox wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:homosexuality is a sin Ah, yes. I remember that line. "Man shall not lie with man as he does a women. It is an abomination." Notice how it doesn't explain why. No suporting argument, no reasoning whatsoever. Kinda sounds like, I dunno, someone's opinion. Just maybe. And what about splitted hoof, do every that really big christians really not eat that. Do ALL christians of US (and any other country) not eat pigs and any other of same kind hows bible told. Fc\_/k you fecking fanatics. BACON POWA Bible told not you said.
Really?!
Boyko i can eat every bibleholic for breakfast and you should eat this.
Sorry for stomp your fanatic dreams XD
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
0uter.heaven
4
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Daddrobit wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Dzago Sevatarion wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Can someone explain to me the difference between a marriage and a civil union? Nomenclature. So what will change for same-sex couples in the US following this ruling? Also, is marriage a necessarily religious ceremony, or can you be married in a non-religious way? Marrige can simply be a legal documentation of the, (hopefully permanent) coupling of two people and it comes with lots of benefits. Off the top of my head: Ability to file for adoption
Wait, gay couples can't adopt in the US?
Heheh, I know it may be a poor source, but have you ever heard of the American Sitcom Modern Family? I remember that there was a gay couple in it who adopted a child. Does this have no factual grounding? 
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Omega Nox
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.06.27 02:31:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Omega Nox wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:homosexuality is a sin Ah, yes. I remember that line. "Man shall not lie with man as he does a women. It is an abomination." Notice how it doesn't explain why. No suporting argument, no reasoning whatsoever. Kinda sounds like, I dunno, someone's opinion. Just maybe. And what about splitted hoof, do every that really big christians really not eat that. Do ALL christians of US (and any other country) not eat pigs and any other of same kind hows bible told. Fc\_/k you fecking fanatics. BACON POWA Bible told not you said. Really?! Boyko i can eat every bibleholic for breakfast and you should eat this. Sorry for stomp your fanatic dreams XD ergo You are christian and eater of pig meatm you are lier and you will go to hell for it..enjoy boyo XD ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY MONOLITH!!
Really? actually yes, and I know because I can read!
buttercup, please don't be hatin this pig eatin son'o god!
pig is an essential part of every church going Americans breakfast....ummm bacon Merica!
as for your documented ignorance as to diet I refer you back to the B-I-B-L-E, because you are wrong, wrong, wrong.
ok buttercup!
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Daddrobit
You Can Call Me Daddy
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Daddrobit wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Dzago Sevatarion wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Can someone explain to me the difference between a marriage and a civil union? Nomenclature. So what will change for same-sex couples in the US following this ruling? Also, is marriage a necessarily religious ceremony, or can you be married in a non-religious way? Marrige can simply be a legal documentation of the, (hopefully permanent) coupling of two people and it comes with lots of benefits. Off the top of my head: Ability to file for adoption Wait, gay couples can't adopt in the US? Heheh, I know it may be a poor source, but have you ever heard of the American Sitcom Modern Family? I remember that there was a gay couple in it who adopted a child. Does this have no factual grounding?
Adoption centers had the option to deny the adoption based on marital status. Prior to this, centers that said, "If you're not married, you can't adopt" were able to deny same sex couples a child because the couple couldn't get married in the first place.
O.G. Pink Fluffy Bunny
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.06.27 02:38:00 -
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Omega Nox wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Omega Nox wrote:demens grimwulff wrote:REDBACK96USMC wrote:
I think you should read the State Actor Doctrine and rethink that.
State action doctrine is the American legal concept that the protections of the Constitution GÇö such as the Fourteenth and First Amendments GÇö only apply with any real strength to the coercive power of the state against the individual, rather than the coercive power of the individual against the individual. From a legal website... your interpretation is wrong. 14th amendment is upheld, states are required to marry. Sorry. Where in the Constitution is marriage mentioned? It is not and therefore up to the individual states to regulate. Using the 14th Amendment is laughable and shows a level of legal incompetence that is impeachable. The power of marriage is given to the state, that you are right. But when the state makes a law that infringes on the rights of the people given to them in the Constitution it becomes a federal problem. The Constitution says nothing of marriage, and your rights come from the Bill of Rights which also does not mention marriage. Marriage was and always covered by Common Law, not Statutory nor Constitutional. It should be noted that Common Law, is older than history itself. Now we have 5 liberal elitist, all from New York, pulling "rights" out of thin air, and telling 380 million citizens what the law is. Am I the only person here that sees the tyrany in this? The citizens are the boss in the US not some unelected harvard grad wearing a black robe!
1. I literally just said that
2. 14 Amendment, No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
3. the states obvious disrespect for the rights of its citizens has shown itself in this matter and the Constitution has been interpreted by those given the power to do so. If you don't like it have the Constitution amended(that's a joke because that **** ain't gonna happen since every state has to agree..looking at you Mississippi and Texas o_o).
4. No matter how hard you try to sound right, you're still going to be wrong so deal with it. It's honestly not going to be the end of the world as you know. You're still going to wake up and do whatever the hell you do like yesterday so please stop being a ****.
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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Louis Domi
Tugastroy
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Posted - 2015.06.27 03:24:00 -
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Guys and Gals come on You know the rules of conversation:
No talking about religion
No talking about politics
(Thats basically it)
If you don't follow these rules fights will break out, the walls ooze blood, Gentlemen act like asses. The discussion of gay marriage falls under both of these categories. Of course if you want to fight about it go ahead... But we can all agree
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Yokal Bob
Dead Man's Game
1
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Posted - 2015.06.27 03:25:00 -
[169] - Quote
oh give it a rest already
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Scheneighnay McBob
Penumbra or something
7
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Louis Domi wrote:Guys and Gals come on You know the rules of conversation:
No talking about religion
No talking about politics
(Thats basically it)
If you don't follow these rules fights will break out, the walls ooze blood, Gentlemen act like asses. The discussion of gay marriage falls under both of these categories. Of course if you want to fight about it go ahead... But we can all agree
Close minded people take the L on this one.. Don't fight it... Just take the L..
I've actually had one legendary (several week long) online conversation about religion from conflicting viewpoints that actually turned out quite well.
It just helps when at least 1 on each side isn't a closed-minded ****.
We ended up helping each other out against random rude ******* that tried popping into the discussion.
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Stupid Blueberry
RED 0MEN.
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
1
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Posted - 2015.06.27 04:14:00 -
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The U.S. has needed some good news in light of all this racial stuff going on 
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
Blueberry smokin' that crack y'all
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SLENDER M4N
Xer Cloud Consortium
630
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Posted - 2015.06.27 04:22:00 -
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Gay marriage in the States is cool and all but im more worried about who t'f our president is gonna be. Isn't Fooking Donald Trump running for office? What aboot that Hillary Lady? 'Murica is getting unstable with all these tards running for president.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Penumbra or something
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:The U.S. has needed some good news in light of all this racial stuff going on
Almost all of the racial stuff is caused/amplified by the media having nothing better to report on, though.
Edit: I may or may not have just brought race into this thread, butt fick it
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Deputy ReGnUM
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.06.27 04:39:00 -
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Panthrax Oblivion wrote:
Uhh I'm grilling out on the beach with my bros today soo....I don't think so
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Stupid Blueberry
RED 0MEN.
Evil Syndicate Alliance.
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Posted - 2015.06.27 04:54:00 -
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SLENDER M4N wrote:Gay marriage in the States is cool and all but im more worried about who t'f our president is gonna be. Isn't Fooking Donald Trump running for office? What aboot that Hillary Lady? 'Murica is getting unstable with all these tards running for president.
Donald Trump becomes POTUS
The Caldari State is born
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haajakin Kalen.
Blueberry smokin' that crack y'all
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Louis Domi
Tugastroy
937
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Posted - 2015.06.27 05:10:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Louis Domi wrote:Guys and Gals come on You know the rules of conversation:
No talking about religion
No talking about politics
(Thats basically it)
If you don't follow these rules fights will break out, the walls ooze blood, Gentlemen act like asses. The discussion of gay marriage falls under both of these categories. Of course if you want to fight about it go ahead... But we can all agree
Close minded people take the L on this one.. Don't fight it... Just take the L.. I've actually had one legendary (several week long) online conversation about religion from conflicting viewpoints that actually turned out quite well. It just helps when at least 1 on each side isn't a closed-minded ****. We ended up helping each other out against random rude ******* that tried popping into the discussion.
I've actually had one or two similar conversations about religion in my US history class it turned out quite nice since we were all friends. Most of my other conversations about those topics don't end up that way.
(Hate it most when I'm forced into an argument about politics with friends and a couple of them just assume you're with a certain political party, and I'm just there like "No political preference here guys. If the person can do their job right and has convinced me so then I will indeed cast my vote to that person" Then even after that they will still label you with a certain politcal party as if they did not just hear the one time you talked during that entire argument...) You sir are lucky
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rayakalj9
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.06.27 08:32:00 -
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Pierced Daddy wrote:Panthrax Oblivion wrote:A sad dark day for my country It's a very sad joyful day. Now me and you can finally get married my love. Don't be ashamed of our love for each other. I know it's been tough coming out of the closet but I'm proud of you. You can wear the tux tonite handsome
lol..hahaha this made my day
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Starlight Burner
Arrary of Clusters
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Posted - 2015.06.27 09:00:00 -
[178] - Quote
Who cares?
EDIT: & shouldn't this be in locker room?
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sir RAVEN WING
No Context
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Posted - 2015.06.27 11:53:00 -
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4lbert Wesker wrote:No matter if you are homosexual or heterosexual,I hate you all.
I am asexual.
DO YOU LOVE ME YET?
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demens grimwulff
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Posted - 2015.06.27 12:41:00 -
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Omega Nox wrote:
The Constitution says nothing of marriage, and your rights come from the Bill of Rights which also does not mention marriage.
Marriage was and always covered by Common Law, not Statutory nor Constitutional.
It should be noted that Common Law, is older than history itself.
Now we have 5 liberal elitist, all from New York, pulling "rights" out of thin air, and telling 380 million citizens what the law is.
Am I the only person here that sees the tyrany in this?
The citizens are the boss in the US not some unelected harvard grad wearing a black robe!
You are wrong. Your bias is blinding you.
The US government has the ability to rule over several things, including the rights of the people and whether states are upholding them, inter-state commerce and issues that harm ir, and taxation on the federal level.
1) this is a rights issue and has been determined to be one, therefore the US government can rule on it
2) the inter-state commerce clause does not need to be used, but can be as there is precedence on record
3) marriage carries a different taxation structure in the US, giving the US government the immediate ability to rule on it. If they can tax it, they can make laws on it.
Sneaky Nando #4) no where in the Constitution does it state that the US Supreme Court has to be bound by the constitution. What kind of silly, last hope logic are they spewing at you? The Supreme Court is the final arbiter over whether or not something is illegal or legal, and they have ruled that the 14th Amendment covers gay marriage, NOT what you're think.
I am so very happy that I can finally say this, but you are on the wrong side of history.
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PLAYSTTION
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
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Posted - 2015.06.27 13:42:00 -
[181] - Quote
postapo wastelander wrote:Sergeant Sazu wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:homosexuality is a sin Ah, yes. I remember that line. "Man shall not lie with man as he does a women. It is an abomination." Notice how it doesn't explain why. No suporting argument, no reasoning whatsoever. Kinda sounds like, I dunno, someone's opinion. Just maybe. And what about splitted hoof, do every that really big christians really not eat that. Do ALL christians of US (and any other country) not eat pigs and any other of same kind hows bible told. Fc\_/k you fecking fanatics. BACON POWA
It later says you can eat a pigs meat.
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Louis Domi
Tugastroy
938
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Posted - 2015.06.27 13:48:00 -
[182] - Quote
Starlight Burner wrote:Who cares?
EDIT: & shouldn't this be in locker room?
It actually is in Locker room. Seeing as how most people use General I guess he must've added one here to get the word out. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.06.27 14:13:00 -
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Why? Why did you all continue to make the same mistake I did already? You fed the troll after midnight. You happy now? The gremlins are running amok all over every major map including the Gallente Lag Facility.
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Daddrobit
You Can Call Me Daddy
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Posted - 2015.06.27 14:18:00 -
[184] - Quote
PLAYSTTION wrote:
The Old testament says no, but Jesus comes and changes the law in the new testament.
Nope, everything in the old testament still stands as firmly as the day it was scribbled down.
Matthew 5:17-18
"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no ways pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."
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PLAYSTTION
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
1
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Posted - 2015.06.27 14:23:00 -
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Daddrobit wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:
The Old testament says no, but Jesus comes and changes the law in the new testament.
Nope, everything in the old testament still stands as firmly as the day it was scribbled down. Matthew 5:17-18 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no ways pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."
Thank you for that verse as I was looking for it to prove my point. That was a fulfilment of the law. This doesn't mean disregard the Old testament but the laws that have been changed are now the law. Like updating a countries law like yesterdays sad decision. My country already did this.
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PLAYSTTION
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
1
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Posted - 2015.06.27 14:24:00 -
[186] - Quote
Maken Tosch wrote:Why? Why did you all continue to make the same mistake I did already? You fed the troll after midnight. You happy now? The gremlins are running amok all over every major map including the Gallente Lag Facility.
How does that work? It is always after midnight. Do the have to feed themselves or do the just always become gremlins?
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Daddrobit
You Can Call Me Daddy
1
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Posted - 2015.06.27 14:32:00 -
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PLAYSTTION wrote:Daddrobit wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:
The Old testament says no, but Jesus comes and changes the law in the new testament.
Nope, everything in the old testament still stands as firmly as the day it was scribbled down. Matthew 5:17-18 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no ways pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." Thank you for that verse as I was looking for it to prove my point. That was a fulfilment of the law. This doesn't mean disregard the Old testament but the laws that have been changed are now the law. Like updating a countries law like yesterdays sad decision. My country already did this.
Unless you presume that everything on Earth and in Heaven has come to pass, then no, the laws of the old still stand. He says it directly, "I am not come to destroy... (the law)"
He is there to affirm that, 'Yeah guys, you need to listen to what the old prophets said until Armageddon and beyond. Because in no way before that will a single letter be changed in the old law.'
O.G. Pink Fluffy Bunny
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Mex-0
Corrosive Synergy
739
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Posted - 2015.06.27 14:32:00 -
[188] - Quote
Forever ETC wrote:About f*ckin time! Who gives a damn who you decide to marry, I hate religion with a passion...
I thought the amarr were supposed to be all religious and sh*t?
If I insult you in some way, it's probably by accident.
probably.
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demens grimwulff
Negative-Feedback.
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513
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Posted - 2015.06.27 16:11:00 -
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Louis Domi wrote:Starlight Burner wrote:Who cares?
EDIT: & shouldn't this be in locker room? It actually is in Locker room. Seeing as how most people use General I guess he must've added one here to get the word out.
^^^^^
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sir RAVEN WING
No Context
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Posted - 2015.06.28 01:19:00 -
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Point: Whether you like it or not. Marriage has been fully legalized.
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Powerh8er
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Posted - 2015.06.28 02:00:00 -
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I want to marry myself.
Have you got anymore exploding carrots?
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.06.28 02:10:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:You're actually born with the natural instinct to survive AND REPRODUCE.
The beautiful thing about living in the future is that you no longer need a Man and Woman to have a baby :D |
Dreis ShadowWeaver
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.06.28 02:23:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:You're actually born with the natural instinct to survive AND REPRODUCE. The beautiful thing about living in the future is that you no longer need a Man and Woman to have a baby :D
You're missing the point. The natural instinct to reproduce is the basis for my theory.
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Mex-0
Corrosive Synergy
744
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Posted - 2015.06.28 13:32:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:You're actually born with the natural instinct to survive AND REPRODUCE. The beautiful thing about living in the future is that you no longer need a Man and Woman to have a baby :D
I really hope you're talking about adoption.
If I insult you in some way, it's probably by accident.
probably.
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demens grimwulff
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Posted - 2015.06.28 14:14:00 -
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Mex-0 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:You're actually born with the natural instinct to survive AND REPRODUCE. The beautiful thing about living in the future is that you no longer need a Man and Woman to have a baby :D I really hope you're talking about adoption.
NSFW due to topic: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/scientists-create-artificial-human-eggs-and-sperm/
Right now, only a male dna code would work for this
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noob cavman
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.06.28 14:22:00 -
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Leveyan philosophy best philosophy
Sulphur is in my blood <3
I want to be a caveman!
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Fire of Prometheus
Band O' Commandos
5
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Posted - 2015.06.28 14:27:00 -
[197] - Quote
Don't come to Canada....we've made it legal for about a decade
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demens grimwulff
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Posted - 2015.06.28 14:29:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Don't come to Canada....we've made it legal for about a decade
Shhhhhhhh! You're not supposed to tell them! We want them gone ;.;
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Daddrobit
You Can Call Me Daddy
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Posted - 2015.06.28 14:34:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:You're actually born with the natural instinct to survive AND REPRODUCE. The beautiful thing about living in the future is that you no longer need a Man and Woman to have a baby :D You're missing the point. The natural instinct to reproduce is the basis for my theory.
The desire for bisexual and homosexual relations can be found in nature occurring naturally outside of humans just as readily. From sheep, to dogs, to dolphins and penguins.
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Mex-0
Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2015.06.28 15:00:00 -
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Daddrobit wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:You're actually born with the natural instinct to survive AND REPRODUCE. The beautiful thing about living in the future is that you no longer need a Man and Woman to have a baby :D You're missing the point. The natural instinct to reproduce is the basis for my theory. The desire for bisexual and homosexual relations can be found in nature occurring naturally outside of humans just as readily. From sheep, to dogs, to dolphins and penguins.
What about in rabbits?
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
No Context
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Posted - 2015.06.28 15:12:00 -
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I still dont get one thing.
Why there is that big amount of anti-LGBT voices.
Isnt that their right to be how they are?
I have some friends in LGBT community and they are same like any others, i just do not get why there is still people with that "sad day for my country" b*sh4te on their lips.
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demens grimwulff
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Posted - 2015.06.28 15:44:00 -
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Mex-0 wrote:What about in rabbits?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mammals_displaying_homosexual_behavior
If you're referring to the pink, fluffy variety, I know at least one who does ;) (it isn't Dad, either)
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Knight Soiaire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.06.28 16:13:00 -
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Does this mean there won't be any more pride parades? pls. |
postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy
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Knight Soiaire wrote:Does this mean there won't be any more pride parades? pls.
Wait a sec love parades in berlin were most fabulous thingies, everyone was happy, smiling good old times.
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Knight Soiaire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.06.28 16:18:00 -
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Rabbits will **** anything. |
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Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.06.28 21:06:00 -
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Daddrobit wrote:PLAYSTTION wrote:
The Old testament says no, but Jesus comes and changes the law in the new testament.
Nope, everything in the old testament still stands as firmly as the day it was scribbled down. Matthew 5:17-18 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no ways pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."
Well if you are correct, let the stoning begin!
fortunately for you! you are absolutely ignorant of the law, and what it was in the beginning.
wrong, wrong, wrong!
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demens grimwulff
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Posted - 2015.06.28 21:46:00 -
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Omega Nox wrote:Well if you are correct, let the stoning begin!
fortunately for you! you are absolutely ignorant of the law, and what it was in the beginning.
wrong, wrong, wrong!
Funny, then, as the new testament doesn't really mention homosexuality at all. Without the old testament still applying, then you have no Christian argument against. And I quote:
In the New Testament (NT) there are at least three passages that may refer to homosexual activity: Romans 1:26GÇô27, 1 Corinthians 6:9GÇô10, and 1 Timothy 1:9GÇô10. A fourth passage, Jude 1:7, is often interpreted as referring to homosexuality. None of the four gospels mentions the subject directly, and there is nothing about homosexuality in the Book of Acts, in Hebrews, in Revelation, or in the letters attributed to James, Peter, and John. Jesus may be restricting marriage to opposite-sex couples when he cites Genesis during a discussion of marriage (Matthew 19:4-6 and Mark 10:6-9).
The presumed references to 'homosexuality' itself in the New Testament hinge on the interpretation of three specific Greek words, arsenokoit-ôs (ß+Ç-ü-â+¦+++++¦+++»-ä++-é), malakos (+++¦+++¦+¦-î-é), and porneia.[1][2] While it is not disputed that the three Greek words concern sexual relations between men (and possibly between women), some academics interpret the relevant passages as a prohibition against pederasty or prostitution rather than homosexuality per se, while other scholars have presented counter arguments.[3][4][5] The historical context of the passages has also been a subject of debate.
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