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Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
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Posted - 2015.05.31 04:15:00 -
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Props to Leither and Ripley Riley for this
I know this has probably been discussed here, but F&I, give me you knee jerk reactions when you hear, "What if DUST 514 offered players to pay for a subscription, but also allowed them to continue to play for free if they choose to?" Give me your knee jerk reaction, pros, cons, benefits of having a sub, and discuss! Potential sub price? Same as EVE Online & Planetside 2 @ $15 USD a month?
Discuss! :D
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.05.31 04:21:00 -
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This thread is now being watched. Please carry on. o7
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Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
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Posted - 2015.05.31 04:24:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:This thread is now being watched. Please carry on. o7
Would be nice if you contributed, Mister Atu. :P o7
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.05.31 04:34:00 -
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Aiwha Bait wrote:Cross Atu wrote:This thread is now being watched. Please carry on. o7 Would be nice if you contributed, Mister Atu. :P o7 Haven't you heard? CPM never contribute anything we just grand stand and lord over the community
But fine, if I were to look at a subscription model I would say it mush have value and be optional. Those are foundational to me. An example of a reasonable starting point for such a framework can be seen here. The linked FAQ covers many things so those who care to click the link should go to the subscription section specifically.
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Oswald Rehnquist
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Posted - 2015.05.31 04:35:00 -
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$15 a month is intense, I'd say if it switched platforms then something like this can be considered. For a ps3 game, I'd say that a few are here entirely on the basis they don't have a ps4, or if they do, still enjoy the fact that its free.
Without a platform switch, I'd say it will suffer a severe fallout.
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Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
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Posted - 2015.05.31 04:47:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:$15 a month is intense, I'd say if it switched platforms then something like this can be considered. For a ps3 game, I'd say that a few are here entirely on the basis they don't have a ps4, or if they do, still enjoy the fact that its free.
Without a platform switch, I'd say it will suffer a severe fallout.
So if DUST went to say, the PS4, you'd pay $15 a month for it? What if it went to PC instead of PS4? Would you pay more, less, or the same amount?
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Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
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Posted - 2015.05.31 04:49:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:Aiwha Bait wrote:Cross Atu wrote:This thread is now being watched. Please carry on. o7 Would be nice if you contributed, Mister Atu. :P o7 Haven't you heard? CPM never contribute anything we just grand stand and lord over the community But fine, if I were to look at a subscription model I would say it mush have value and be optional. Those are foundational to me. An example of a reasonable starting point for such a framework can be seen here. The linked FAQ covers many things so those who care to click the link should go to the subscription section specifically.
I have heard, but the norm needs to be messed with every now and again. :P
Interesting model that EC has. Gonna check it out in depth here in a bit. :D
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.05.31 04:49:00 -
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Aiwha Bait wrote:Oswald Rehnquist wrote:$15 a month is intense, I'd say if it switched platforms then something like this can be considered. For a ps3 game, I'd say that a few are here entirely on the basis they don't have a ps4, or if they do, still enjoy the fact that its free.
Without a platform switch, I'd say it will suffer a severe fallout. So if DUST went to say, the PS4, you'd pay $15 a month for it? What if it went to PC instead of PS4? Would you pay more, less, or the same amount? *looks at CPM 1 campaign platform* what if it went to both?
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Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
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Posted - 2015.05.31 04:56:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:Aiwha Bait wrote:Oswald Rehnquist wrote:$15 a month is intense, I'd say if it switched platforms then something like this can be considered. For a ps3 game, I'd say that a few are here entirely on the basis they don't have a ps4, or if they do, still enjoy the fact that its free.
Without a platform switch, I'd say it will suffer a severe fallout. So if DUST went to say, the PS4, you'd pay $15 a month for it? What if it went to PC instead of PS4? Would you pay more, less, or the same amount? *looks at CPM 1 campaign platform* what if it went to both?
Por que no los dos? Genio!
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Talos Vagheitan
Ancient Exiles.
1
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Posted - 2015.05.31 05:22:00 -
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I'm curious about how Dust 2.0 / Legion will do this on the next platform.
Will CCP continue the F2P with micro transaction model, or go to a subscription system? What would be better?
I think F2P is the way to go personally.
- Dust is currently profiting from it - CCP has shown they can do it without making the system exploitable (Pay to Win) - Dust needs players. F2P is probably the best way to draw in large quantities of players in a short period of time - Such a breath of fresh air when most modern shooters cost over $100 factoring in mandatory DLC packs. I've spent more on Dust, but I feel much better about, seeing as CCP hasn't tried to squeeze the most possible money out of me while providing the bare minimum content like EA.
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Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
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Posted - 2015.05.31 05:28:00 -
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Talos Vagheitan wrote:I'm curious about how Dust 2.0 / Legion will do this on the next platform.
Will CCP continue the F2P with micro transaction model, or go to a subscription system? What would be better?
I think F2P is the way to go personally.
- Dust is currently profiting from it - CCP has shown they can do it without making the system exploitable (Pay to Win) - Dust needs players. F2P is probably the best way to draw in large quantities of players in a short period of time - Such a breath of fresh air when most modern shooters cost over $100 factoring in mandatory DLC packs. I've spent more on Dust, but I feel much better about, seeing as CCP hasn't tried to squeeze the most possible money out of me while providing the bare minimum content like EA.
I actually have been thinking about this as well. *if* DUST 2.0 were to move to either PS4 or PC, would CCP make you buy the game once (and not at $60. God no. Maybe $20 or $30), keep the F2P microtransaction model, or as you said, use a sub model? I wouldn't be opposed to buying the game once for $20 or $30 (I like that Elder Scrolls Online finally did that). A subscription would be cool, but I dont think I would sub, due to a lack of funds each month. Of course the F2P, microtransaction model is really nice in my opinion, even though others disagree.
I do agree with your points too. :D Very true.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.05.31 09:18:00 -
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I actually much prefer monthly subscription games....in my experience they tend to be better supported. But I also have concerns about moving from a free model to a subscription model at this point in the game. So a hybrid of the two would likely be more appropriate.
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Luther Mandrix
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL RUST415
585
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Posted - 2015.05.31 10:35:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:I actually much prefer monthly subscription games....in my experience they tend to be better supported. But I also have concerns about moving from a free model to a subscription model at this point in the game. So a hybrid of the two would likely be more appropriate. So the question we have to ask what would you get for subscribing to Dust vs FTP? 1.More bandwith? 2.More Dropsuit Fittings over 50? 3.Ability to move stations? 4.Choice of Warbarge (nice looking new one vs what we got) 5.Head of the line Priority 6.Dusts Singularity in other contracts were you get to try stuff out first. 7.Discount on all arum item purchases
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DeathwindRising
ROGUE RELICS
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Posted - 2015.05.31 12:30:00 -
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Luther Mandrix wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:I actually much prefer monthly subscription games....in my experience they tend to be better supported. But I also have concerns about moving from a free model to a subscription model at this point in the game. So a hybrid of the two would likely be more appropriate. So the question we have to ask what would you get for subscribing to Dust vs FTP? 1.More bandwith? 2.More Dropsuit Fittings over 50? 3.Ability to move stations? 4.Choice of Warbarge (nice looking new one vs what we got) 5.Head of the line Priority 6.Dusts Singularity in other contracts were you get to try stuff out first. 7.Discount on all arum item purchases
stuff like this is good.
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DeathwindRising
ROGUE RELICS
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Posted - 2015.05.31 12:33:00 -
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From Cross's link:
"Q: What business model will the game use?
A: Eternal Crusade will be available in retail, for digital purchase, and a free-to-play option we call GÇ£Free-to-Waaagh!GÇ¥. By purchasing a copy of the game, you will have access to it forever with no need for a subscription. There will be post-launch expansions as well as a cash shop for aesthetic customizations and side-grades.
You can play Free-to-Waaagh only as an Ork Character. In contrast to the premium Ork progression, some options will be locked, but youGÇÖll be able to go anywhere and fight for the Waaagh! If you like it, but donGÇÖt want to pay the full price, you can unlock some of the missing options with micro-transactions." |
Lady MDK
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
375
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Posted - 2015.05.31 13:00:00 -
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Integrate planetary gameplay into EVE online itself... wallop, dust becomes a subscription game. It is possible to play eve without paying if you play it enough (or well enough) that rule should stand true for the integrated dust gameplay parts as well.
Oh yea the expansion needs to be called Legion ;)
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Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
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Posted - 2015.05.31 13:32:00 -
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Lady MDK wrote:Integrate planetary gameplay into EVE online itself... wallop, dust becomes a subscription game. It is possible to play eve without paying if you play it enough (or well enough) that rule should stand true for the integrated dust gameplay parts as well.
Oh yea the expansion needs to be called Legion ;)
I see what you did there. ;) Is integrating it w/ EVE on the Planetary Conquest front enough to justify making it a subscription game? What about those of us who havent participated in a PC battle at all, and dont plan on doing so? In what you're talking about, would the game still keep the free-to-play model it currently has?
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Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
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Posted - 2015.05.31 13:39:00 -
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Luther Mandrix wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:I actually much prefer monthly subscription games....in my experience they tend to be better supported. But I also have concerns about moving from a free model to a subscription model at this point in the game. So a hybrid of the two would likely be more appropriate. So the question we have to ask what would you get for subscribing to Dust vs FTP? 1.More bandwith? 2.More Dropsuit Fittings over 50? 3.Ability to move stations? 4.Choice of Warbarge (nice looking new one vs what we got) 5.Head of the line Priority 6.Dusts Singularity in other contracts were you get to try stuff out first. 7.Discount on all arum item purchases
1. I hope you dont mean more bandwith for euipment...That seems awfully close to pay-to-win for my liking. 2. What does this mean? 3. Would be nice. :P Would kinda wanna move into Gallente territory just to f*ck with them. 4. A Quafe Warbarge would be pretty nice. xD 5. Meaning? 6. Yes. Would find this quite interesting. 7. Yep. 5% off of all AUR purchases, maybe?
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Cyzad4
Blackfish Corp.
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Posted - 2015.05.31 13:40:00 -
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If more money to CCP meant they would get things out quicker with less bugs and we got a few nice bonuses I would be all for a voluntary subscription. And this is coming from a person who's only put in MAYBE $80-$100 in the entire time I've been playing.
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Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
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Posted - 2015.05.31 13:43:00 -
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Cyzad4 wrote:If more money to CCP meant they would get things out quicker with less bugs and we got a few nice bonuses I would be all for a voluntary subscription. And this is coming from a person who's only put in MAYBE $80-$100 in the entire time I've been playing.
There's no guarantee that stuff would get out quicker. They'd still have the same development team. HOWEVER, if enough people subscribed, we may be able to pay for a new dev or two.
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Lady MDK
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
375
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Posted - 2015.05.31 14:39:00 -
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Aiwha Bait wrote:Lady MDK wrote:Integrate planetary gameplay into EVE online itself... wallop, dust becomes a subscription game. It is possible to play eve without paying if you play it enough (or well enough) that rule should stand true for the integrated dust gameplay parts as well.
Oh yea the expansion needs to be called Legion ;) I see what you did there. ;) Is integrating it w/ EVE on the Planetary Conquest front enough to justify making it a subscription game? What about those of us who havent participated in a PC battle at all, and dont plan on doing so? In what you're talking about, would the game still keep the free-to-play model it currently has?
I dont play Planetary conquest....
I mean actually make dust a feature in eve....
Pub matches would be exactly what they are now from your station quarters you goto a console and configure your search for battle type or maybe you can scan the eve cluster somehow and the map shows you current queues for pub matches and your compatibility with them (your MU compared to the average amount of other players in the match) you can join one just as you do now.
For factional warfare Eve pilots can put contracts on to a district in a system they are fighting for space superiority in and vice versa - if you play more as boots on the ground you can put a contract into the system for space support, available contracts actually show in the star map.
I would envisage in both these modes travel is similar to what it is now clone jumping everywhere although if th battles are shown on the map there is nothing to stop you fying to the battle and landing on the district this would increase the MMO aspect but keeping the shooter aspect similar to what it is.
My original idea involved utilizing the download on demand feature of EVE to spot that you only had a non subscribing account and only downloading the moduls possibl to play dust and interface with the dust market and pub/FW battles and PVE.
If you went full subscriber you would be able to fly to planets that showed up in the map as having battle queues on them, and take part in industry lowsec and nullsec SOV PC as well as the free to play stuff.
There maybe others ways to make money as well and buy plex to subscribe for free.
The issue with a free to play/ subscriber option is you always end up with a 2 class system as there must be a reason to subscribe.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Tribal Liberation Force Paramilitary
7
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Posted - 2015.05.31 16:16:00 -
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If implemented right, I would totally go for it.
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Heimdallr69
Negative-Feedback.
5
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Posted - 2015.05.31 16:46:00 -
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Idk the math but runescape started at like $5 a month, we could do the same and as they increase the price the players who payed $5 stay at 5 instead of increasing too. The most I could see this game would be $10/month...of course I wouldn't pay anything till we get it on next gen
Everything we have now would be FTP...adding like racial tanks/weapons/dropships could be part of the subscription and getting so much aur or boosters each month, more costumizable options painting suits/weapons/vehicles etc...
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Luther Mandrix
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL RUST415
585
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Posted - 2015.05.31 17:43:00 -
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Aiwha Bait wrote:Luther Mandrix wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:I actually much prefer monthly subscription games....in my experience they tend to be better supported. But I also have concerns about moving from a free model to a subscription model at this point in the game. So a hybrid of the two would likely be more appropriate. So the question we have to ask what would you get for subscribing to Dust vs FTP? 1.More bandwith? 2.More Dropsuit Fittings over 50? 3.Ability to move stations? 4.Choice of Warbarge (nice looking new one vs what we got) 5.Head of the line Priority 6.Dusts Singularity in other contracts were you get to try stuff out first. 7.Discount on all arum item purchases 1. I hope you dont mean more bandwith for euipment...That seems awfully close to pay-to-win for my liking. 2. What does this mean? 3. Would be nice. :P Would kinda wanna move into Gallente territory just to f*ck with them. 4. A Quafe Warbarge would be pretty nice. xD 5. Meaning? 6. Yes. Would find this quite interesting. 7. Yep. 5% off of all AUR purchases, maybe? More bandwith as in less lag |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
11
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Posted - 2015.05.31 21:15:00 -
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Luther Mandrix wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:I actually much prefer monthly subscription games....in my experience they tend to be better supported. But I also have concerns about moving from a free model to a subscription model at this point in the game. So a hybrid of the two would likely be more appropriate. So the question we have to ask what would you get for subscribing to Dust vs FTP? 1.More bandwith? 2.More Dropsuit Fittings over 50? 3.Ability to move stations? 4.Choice of Warbarge (nice looking new one vs what we got) 5.Head of the line Priority 6.Dusts Singularity in other contracts were you get to try stuff out first. 7.Discount on all arum item purchases
I don't think #1 would be something to offer as that could cause some players to feel left out because they couldn't afford to get into a match with a good connection.
#2, 3, & 4 would be ok for me.
I probably would not be ok with #5 either as that would also make some people feel left out because they couldn't afford to get into a good match and it could create a bit of a rift in the community between those with money and those without.
#6 would be great but there is the issue of how the PS3 would handle access to Singularity. The last time Dust was in that server, there were plenty of connection problems.
I think #7 would be ok for me as that is not impacting gameplay. At least not directly like how #5 would. On top of that, it would be interesting to how it plays out once Player Trade has expanded further.
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Marcus Stormfire
G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance
107
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Posted - 2015.05.31 21:37:00 -
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I would 100% support this. The caveat being, If implemented wrong then it risks moving to pay to win.
Some thoughts:
-Any modification of SP gain's available to subscribers and not F2P people would be considered pay to win.
Perhaps some of these ideas:
- Take a page out of EvE online and modify it, Subscribers get one free skill respec per year @ 80% refund of isk. -Subscribers get extra Newsletter content. -A one time limited edition Quafe Skin as a thanks for supporting the game (One year subscription bonus) - Subscribers get access to a news feed of events in New Eden in their quarters. (Similar interface to the pilots quarters in EvE) -Subscribers can see their war barge docked in station?
I believe that the best way to go about the optional subscription is to offer the player base some nice eye candy as well that will not affect the gameplay as well as extra lore related content. That way they get something for their subscription that will not be Pay to win.
However be warned. If you start your subscription cost too low then be prepared to get hit with the rage from people when you inevitably have to increase the Sub price. Try to find a price that you guys feel can be sustainable for at least a year or two before upping the cost.
-I am sure there are more ideas floating around my void of a skull. I Might update when they return to the corporeal world.
-Marcus
-I don't always kill Mercs with a sidearm, But when I do I use militia.
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Dova Vojak
Destinys Immortals Rise Of Legion.
4
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Posted - 2015.05.31 21:44:00 -
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We already have Aurum. Why do we need subscription? Maybe when (if ever) Legion comes out a subscription might be negotiable but of course no one wants that. For one there already isn't a massive community for DUST and I don't believe it's growing (if at all) very much. Maybe if they market DUST some and advertise it and the community grows a ton and we become more noob friendly (not just the community but the game as well) then we might be able to start considering a subscription service. And if we do do subs then we better ******* make it to where you HAVE to be subed to play. None of this pay-to-win crap.
"The end justifies the means"
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
11
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Posted - 2015.06.01 00:27:00 -
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Dova Vojak wrote:We already have Aurum. Why do we need subscription? Maybe when (if ever) Legion comes out a subscription might be negotiable but of course no one wants that. For one there already isn't a massive community for DUST and I don't believe it's growing (if at all) very much. Maybe if they market DUST some and advertise it and the community grows a ton and we become more noob friendly (not just the community but the game as well) then we might be able to start considering a subscription service. And if we do do subs then we better ******* make it to where you HAVE to be subed to play. None of this pay-to-win crap.
Or as Marcus pointed out, give it as an option but never implement gameplay-affecting features that would not be accessible otherwise. Cosmetics, access to a test server like Eve Online players do, or access to news feeds in the merc quarters with an option to move from station to station are options that I would consider to be worth it.
Let's take it a step further. Better functions to chat-channel control or a more robust mail system. Currently you need to be an Eve Online player to access some of these things such as having a 3,000-character limit to the mail you send out, being able to see how many players between both Eve and Dust are logged in within a particular channel or system even if the channel is in delayed mode (this is usually indicated with a counter), etc.
Or better yet, give a Dust 514 subscriber a voucher for Eve Online if they have a personal computer. If the account under that email has an active subscription in Dust, the player could get access to Eve Online as well with that same email. This would be a good step towards marketing both games.
EDIT:
PS: But overall, I don't think a subscription is currently necessary. Dust is doing fine right now and so far it has avoided much of the Pay-to-Win stigma that would often be associated with Free-to-Play. And if CEO Hilmar says it's now a profitable game, then CCP probably doesn't have a reason to change that.
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XxGhazbaranxX
Eternal Beings
1
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Posted - 2015.06.01 05:34:00 -
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Subscription packs:
- 5 dollars: One off week subscription (will be very popular with people who cant pay for a whole month)
- 15 dollars: A month subscription. 5 dollars savings vs the one off weekly subscription
- 40 dollars: three month sub. Complimentary race change
- 70 dollars: Six month sub. Complimentary skill reset
- 120 dollar: Year subscription complimentary skill reset, race change and an extra alt acrueing passive sp to be chosen by the player
For a subscription fee I feel that the following perks could be given:
- Eve online has the skill called leadership, wing command and fleet command. Each skill permits the player to increase the amount of player in fleet.
Subscribed players should be able to use a subscription available skill called squad command. Each level permits you to have +2 more players in squad. At level 5 it means you can deploy a whole team since the max team number is 16. 6 + 10 = 16.
- Queue priority for factional matches when solo queueing or queueing in squad with other subscribed player.
- Max loyalty rank for the duration of the subscription. Lowered to their normal loyalty rank when unsubbed.
- Special contracts:
Corp leaders should be able to create corp battles once more. Payouts to he the same as Planetary conquest. Winner take all. Starting a corp battle still requires the purchas of clone packs. Clones can be bought off marke or moved from owned districts.
Create Match: Ability to start the matchmaking process which will diminish wait times considerably for the squad Since yours will instantly be chosen as the base elo (or whatever algorithm matchmaking uses) for the match.
- Premium market availability
The purchase of pirate skins like the serpentis gallente medium for example. Standard cost of 20 million isk or more per (double or more the price of marine skins since they are contraband)
The purchase of quafe gear BPC at the same isk value of their counterpart. Quafe tanks, dropships etc.
different collored explosion grenades. Same stats as their non premium counterparts but just plain silly. Think snowball launcher or Fireworks in eve online.
**** Just plain sillyness all over for the fum of it.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
6
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Posted - 2015.06.01 16:29:00 -
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Aiwha Bait wrote:Props to Leither and Ripley Riley for this
I know this has probably been discussed here, but F&I, give me you knee jerk reactions when you hear, "What if DUST 514 offered players to pay for a subscription, but also allowed them to continue to play for free if they choose to?" Give me your knee jerk reaction, pros, cons, benefits of having a sub, and discuss! Potential sub price? Same as EVE Online & Planetside 2 @ $15 USD a month?
Discuss! :D
How does the price of maintaining an Active and a Passive Booster cost? That is the monthly subscription that I am already paying for DUST 514.
Not to mention the $15 per month I pay for my EVE account to get access to a decent mail system for contacting DUST players and a few other perks for managing a DUST Corp.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
6
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Posted - 2015.06.01 16:43:00 -
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DeathwindRising wrote: stuff like this is good.
1 more dropsuit fittings 2 free respecs 3 access to test content through other contracts 4 free AUR each month 5 permanent skill boosters?
These sound good, but I would restrict the free respec to 1 per year to avoid Flavor of the month chasing.
None of the benefits can have a direct effect on combat abilities while in a match. They should be perks of convenience, improved interfaces for Meta Game (outside match) aspects of the game, and AUR items such as Boosters.
If Dust players who pay a subscription had access to the mail interface in EVE Gate, that would be worth a subscription for a lot of people, particularly CEO's and Corp Directors.
A subscription should also include a permanent Passive, and Active booster as long as your subscription is active as well.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
11
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Posted - 2015.06.01 22:13:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:DeathwindRising wrote: stuff like this is good.
1 more dropsuit fittings 2 free respecs 3 access to test content through other contracts 4 free AUR each month 5 permanent skill boosters?
These sound good, but I would restrict the free respec to 1 per year to avoid Flavor of the month chasing. None of the benefits can have a direct effect on combat abilities while in a match. They should be perks of convenience, improved interfaces for Meta Game (outside match) aspects of the game, and AUR items such as Boosters. If Dust players who pay a subscription had access to the mail interface in EVE Gate, that would be worth a subscription for a lot of people, particularly CEO's and Corp Directors. A subscription should also include a permanent Passive, and Active booster as long as your subscription is active as well.
I agree with this very much. But again, I don't think this is currently necessary unless CCP Rattati and his team feel that it's necessary for continued financial support towards improving Dust.
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The ability to both subscribe and play for free?
Playing for Free is how DUST is now.
Subs would come in 2 different packages. (Regular, Loyalty) Regular: - 1 New Warbarge, regular skin. Amarr. (Due to their lack of content in the PS3 DUST.)
- +1% Loyalty Rank boost.
- Monthly updates via Email. (Allows subs to know when the next hotfix/event/update is coming before the others.)
- Free 'Dust' BPO militia dropsuits. (Colored a grayish color.)
Loyalty:
- All 'Regular' perks.
- All 4 Racial Warbage Options.
- Warbarge Skins that include: Quafe, 'Dust', and Pyrus.
- Ability to test 'in progress' features.
- 4 Exclusive BPOs: Amarr, Caldari, Minmatar, and Gallente 'Mercenary' STD BPOs.
- 5% Aurum Discount on certain items.
This is so it avoids 'Pay to Win' by being mostly cosmetic.
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DJINN Jecture
Templar of the Glowing Blade
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Posted - 2015.06.02 03:57:00 -
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Ideal sub model from my point of view:
Pay a plex for a month of game time, Port Dust to PC, no more tears from Eve pilots, screw the play for free garbage as it seems to hinder integration within New Eden's universe and makes us look like freeloading console kiddies who don't support New Eden's upkeep cost (Capsuleer argument not mine) and can ask mommy and daddy for in game assets via their credit cards or psn cards and not having to actually work for anything (also a capsuleer point of view often spouted on the eve forums when integration is mentioned).
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DeathwindRising
ROGUE RELICS
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Posted - 2015.06.02 05:18:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:DeathwindRising wrote: stuff like this is good.
1 more dropsuit fittings 2 free respecs 3 access to test content through other contracts 4 free AUR each month 5 permanent skill boosters?
These sound good, but I would restrict the free respec to 1 per year to avoid Flavor of the month chasing. None of the benefits can have a direct effect on combat abilities while in a match. They should be perks of convenience, improved interfaces for Meta Game (outside match) aspects of the game, and AUR items such as Boosters. If Dust players who pay a subscription had access to the mail interface in EVE Gate, that would be worth a subscription for a lot of people, particularly CEO's and Corp Directors. A subscription should also include a permanent Passive, and Active booster as long as your subscription is active as well. I agree with this very much. But again, I don't think this is currently necessary unless CCP Rattati and his team feel that it's necessary for continued financial support towards improving Dust.
Still not sold?
How about this:
- the ability to send isk between dust and eve characters? Can be setup to only benefit the player by adding an additional wallet for dust players. Isk can't be traded to other dust mercs from this wallet. Isk can be sent to any eve player.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.06.02 05:43:00 -
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DeathwindRising wrote:
Still not sold?
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If you read my previous posts you would notice that I said I would be ok with this but under the condition that it be optional (not mandatory) and the benefits gained for subscribing should not be able to alter the gameplay experience compared to that of a non-subscriber.
Regardless, I will not view this idea as necessary unless CCP points out that it is.
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Posted - 2015.06.02 16:14:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:DeathwindRising wrote: stuff like this is good.
1 more dropsuit fittings 2 free respecs 3 access to test content through other contracts 4 free AUR each month 5 permanent skill boosters?
These sound good, but I would restrict the free respec to 1 per year to avoid Flavor of the month chasing. None of the benefits can have a direct effect on combat abilities while in a match. They should be perks of convenience, improved interfaces for Meta Game (outside match) aspects of the game, and AUR items such as Boosters. If Dust players who pay a subscription had access to the mail interface in EVE Gate, that would be worth a subscription for a lot of people, particularly CEO's and Corp Directors. A subscription should also include a permanent Passive, and Active booster as long as your subscription is active as well. I agree with this very much. But again, I don't think this is currently necessary unless CCP Rattati and his team feel that it's necessary for continued financial support towards improving Dust.
I'd very much say that a subscription option should be just that, and option but so long as it is optional and provides good value (i.e. the money input is of equal or greater weight than the rough AUR value output) then it is just another player choice on the table which I am all for. Of course it would have to be a possible net gain for the game as well, and we certainly don't want a new option that comes with a pay to win price tag, I think those are givens, but so long as the quality of the optional method is sound I don't see why there would need to be a threshold of necessity before adding this option for players could be considered.
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Marcus Stormfire
G.R.A.V.E The Ditanian Alliance
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Posted - 2015.06.02 16:15:00 -
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DeathwindRising wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:DeathwindRising wrote: stuff like this is good.
1 more dropsuit fittings 2 free respecs 3 access to test content through other contracts 4 free AUR each month 5 permanent skill boosters?
These sound good, but I would restrict the free respec to 1 per year to avoid Flavor of the month chasing. None of the benefits can have a direct effect on combat abilities while in a match. They should be perks of convenience, improved interfaces for Meta Game (outside match) aspects of the game, and AUR items such as Boosters. If Dust players who pay a subscription had access to the mail interface in EVE Gate, that would be worth a subscription for a lot of people, particularly CEO's and Corp Directors. A subscription should also include a permanent Passive, and Active booster as long as your subscription is active as well. I agree with this very much. But again, I don't think this is currently necessary unless CCP Rattati and his team feel that it's necessary for continued financial support towards improving Dust. Still not sold? How about this: - the ability to send isk between dust and eve characters? Can be setup to only benefit the player by adding an additional wallet for dust players. Isk can't be traded to other dust mercs from this wallet. Isk can be sent to any eve player.
I think we should avoid that. My current Personal EvE wallet numbers just over 140 billion isk. I would not want anyone to have the ability to shift 40 billion of that over to Dust. IF that were to happen then all hell would break loose. Proto tanks and vehicles galore while the poor guy who does not play EvE gets shafted. If CCP did something like this then they should give Mercenaries their own currency and have a New Eden Bank (NPC) to run an exchange rate or a Concord sanctioned limited isk transfer. I digress as this is getting off topic and deserves it's own thread.
-Back on topic. It seems that the majority here so far would support the idea of an optional subscription if the benefits were purely cosmetic and lore related.
-Also CCP should be aware that they already jumped down a slope that may be very hard to climb back up when they made this game Free to play. Since now they may never be able to implement a required subscription cost without 90% of the community rage quitting.
-Marcus
-I don't always kill Mercs with a sidearm, But when I do I use militia.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
11
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Posted - 2015.06.02 17:08:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:DeathwindRising wrote: stuff like this is good.
1 more dropsuit fittings 2 free respecs 3 access to test content through other contracts 4 free AUR each month 5 permanent skill boosters?
These sound good, but I would restrict the free respec to 1 per year to avoid Flavor of the month chasing. None of the benefits can have a direct effect on combat abilities while in a match. They should be perks of convenience, improved interfaces for Meta Game (outside match) aspects of the game, and AUR items such as Boosters. If Dust players who pay a subscription had access to the mail interface in EVE Gate, that would be worth a subscription for a lot of people, particularly CEO's and Corp Directors. A subscription should also include a permanent Passive, and Active booster as long as your subscription is active as well. I agree with this very much. But again, I don't think this is currently necessary unless CCP Rattati and his team feel that it's necessary for continued financial support towards improving Dust. I'd very much say that a subscription option should be just that, and option but so long as it is optional and provides good value (i.e. the money input is of equal or greater weight than the rough AUR value output) then it is just another player choice on the table which I am all for. Of course it would have to be a possible net gain for the game as well, and we certainly don't want a new option that comes with a pay to win price tag, I think those are givens, but so long as the quality of the optional method is sound I don't see why there would need to be a threshold of necessity before adding this option for players could be considered. 0.02 ISK
You make a valid point.
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Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
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Posted - 2015.06.03 04:25:00 -
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Lady MDK wrote:Aiwha Bait wrote:Lady MDK wrote:Integrate planetary gameplay into EVE online itself... wallop, dust becomes a subscription game. It is possible to play eve without paying if you play it enough (or well enough) that rule should stand true for the integrated dust gameplay parts as well.
Oh yea the expansion needs to be called Legion ;) I see what you did there. ;) Is integrating it w/ EVE on the Planetary Conquest front enough to justify making it a subscription game? What about those of us who havent participated in a PC battle at all, and dont plan on doing so? In what you're talking about, would the game still keep the free-to-play model it currently has? I dont play Planetary conquest.... I mean actually make dust a feature in eve.... Pub matches would be exactly what they are now from your station quarters you goto a console and configure your search for battle type or maybe you can scan the eve cluster somehow and the map shows you current queues for pub matches and your compatibility with them (your MU compared to the average amount of other players in the match) you can join one just as you do now. For factional warfare Eve pilots can put contracts on to a district in a system they are fighting for space superiority in and vice versa - if you play more as boots on the ground you can put a contract into the system for space support, available contracts actually show in the star map. I would envisage in both these modes travel is similar to what it is now clone jumping everywhere although if th battles are shown on the map there is nothing to stop you fying to the battle and landing on the district this would increase the MMO aspect but keeping the shooter aspect similar to what it is. My original idea involved utilizing the download on demand feature of EVE to spot that you only had a non subscribing account and only downloading the moduls possibl to play dust and interface with the dust market and pub/FW battles and PVE. If you went full subscriber you would be able to fly to planets that showed up in the map as having battle queues on them, and take part in industry lowsec and nullsec SOV PC as well as the free to play stuff. There maybe others ways to make money as well and buy plex to subscribe for free. The issue with a free to play/ subscriber option is you always end up with a 2 class system as there must be a reason to subscribe.
Wow. This is f*cking interesting. It would put DUST in a positoon in which it would have more people potentially working on it, which is always good. :D
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DJINN Jecture
Templar of the Glowing Blade
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Posted - 2015.06.03 06:57:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:DeathwindRising wrote: stuff like this is good.
1 more dropsuit fittings 2 free respecs 3 access to test content through other contracts 4 free AUR each month 5 permanent skill boosters?
These sound good, but I would restrict the free respec to 1 per year to avoid Flavor of the month chasing. None of the benefits can have a direct effect on combat abilities while in a match. They should be perks of convenience, improved interfaces for Meta Game (outside match) aspects of the game, and AUR items such as Boosters. If Dust players who pay a subscription had access to the mail interface in EVE Gate, that would be worth a subscription for a lot of people, particularly CEO's and Corp Directors. A subscription should also include a permanent Passive, and Active booster as long as your subscription is active as well. I agree with this very much. But again, I don't think this is currently necessary unless CCP Rattati and his team feel that it's necessary for continued financial support towards improving Dust. I'd very much say that a subscription option should be just that, an option but so long as it is optional and provides good value (i.e. the money input is of equal or greater weight than the rough AUR value output) then it is just another player choice on the table which I am all for. Of course it would have to be a possible net gain for the game as well, and we certainly don't want a new option that comes with a pay to win price tag, I think those are givens, but so long as the quality of the optional method is sound I don't see why there would need to be a threshold of necessity before adding this option for players could be considered. 0.02 ISK As a CPM do you not support integration into the New Eden Universe rather than being a kid sister in New Eden being a Partner in the Universe that actually can have an impact? If you do then how would you respond the the accusations on the Eve forums I have mentioned in my above post?
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DJINN Jecture
Templar of the Glowing Blade
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Posted - 2015.06.03 07:20:00 -
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Lady MDK wrote: The issue with a free to play/ subscriber option is you always end up with a 2 class system as there must be a reason to subscribe.
I've noticed this as well in several of the games I play vs my Eve and Dust experiences. Having two classes of players doesn't make the game more enjoyable and punishes those not willing to spend cash on the game or CareBear play to make the isk to buy the sub through in game funds. Free-to-play has been ok this far but I think the time has passed for the F2P model in this game. It hasn't led to more funding allowed for better programing or even better gameplay elements* but rather it has just kept the lights on in Shanghai**.
Paying a subscription is the only way this game is going to reach it's full potential***. Not only that but it makes everyone in New Eden invest the same amount each month per account, ridding us of arguments against integration by many capsuleers.
***Based on playing both games over the same time frame and getting better controls, more gameplay aspects, a developing storyline and new NPCs and Ships as well as Skins etc to work with to grow our characters and wallets as well as new PVP metas on a regular basis with various balancing aspects, ships, modules and even new structures to use as well as new areas to explore that were previously not accessible or even in game. **Disclaimer...No I haven't actually looked at the numbers but maybe one of our esteemed CPMs in here can access that information *Disclaimer...Yes I have seen progress, but in comparison Eve has grown immeasurably better in comparison to Dust over the same time being used to develop the game on the same release schedule
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Blueprint For Murder
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.06.03 07:48:00 -
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I wouldn't pay monthly for really any game i played wow for like 7 years and feel like a dam fool now when i think about the cash i spent on it.
It depends on what they offer the sp disparity is already crushing in this game, but they could do something like rift does though make it a sub option that gives some perks; maybe 10% off of store items, 25% sp gain, Quafe suv rental, a number of keys each week, and a special patron mission monthly or something that way you could dangle some shiny items that would be a challenge to get to boost subs like respec or a suite skin.
I can only handle this game so long before the horrible balance starts to eat away at me.
My contribution to the forums will cost you guys one respec.
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DeathwindRising
ROGUE RELICS
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Posted - 2015.06.03 07:51:00 -
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Marcus Stormfire wrote:DeathwindRising wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:DeathwindRising wrote: stuff like this is good.
1 more dropsuit fittings 2 free respecs 3 access to test content through other contracts 4 free AUR each month 5 permanent skill boosters?
These sound good, but I would restrict the free respec to 1 per year to avoid Flavor of the month chasing. None of the benefits can have a direct effect on combat abilities while in a match. They should be perks of convenience, improved interfaces for Meta Game (outside match) aspects of the game, and AUR items such as Boosters. If Dust players who pay a subscription had access to the mail interface in EVE Gate, that would be worth a subscription for a lot of people, particularly CEO's and Corp Directors. A subscription should also include a permanent Passive, and Active booster as long as your subscription is active as well. I agree with this very much. But again, I don't think this is currently necessary unless CCP Rattati and his team feel that it's necessary for continued financial support towards improving Dust. Still not sold? How about this: - the ability to send isk between dust and eve characters? Can be setup to only benefit the player by adding an additional wallet for dust players. Isk can't be traded to other dust mercs from this wallet. Isk can be sent to any eve player. I think we should avoid that. My current Personal EvE wallet numbers just over 140 billion isk. I would not want anyone to have the ability to shift 40 billion of that over to Dust. IF that were to happen then all hell would break loose. Proto tanks and vehicles galore while the poor guy who does not play EvE gets shafted. If CCP did something like this then they should give Mercenaries their own currency and have a New Eden Bank (NPC) to run an exchange rate or a Concord sanctioned limited isk transfer. I digress as this is getting off topic and deserves it's own thread. -Back on topic. It seems that the majority here so far would support the idea of an optional subscription if the benefits were purely cosmetic and lore related. -Also CCP should be aware that they already jumped down a slope that may be very hard to climb back up when they made this game Free to play. Since now they may never be able to implement a required subscription cost without 90% of the community rage quitting. -Marcus
It's not limited to a dust player sharing isk between his own eve accounts though. As long as he's a subscription holder, he can engage in isk transactions with ANY eve player.
This means he can pay isk to pilots for that provide orbital support.
It means eve players in FW can supply their sides troops with the ISK to keep fighting.
It means PC corps could hire pilots to their aid.
Isn't that something people would be willing to pay for? Doesn't it also strengthen the eve-dust link? |
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WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL RUST415
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Posted - 2015.06.03 08:19:00 -
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how about link eve subscription to dust account for increased rewards. Make new eve starter pack OB Support pack 1.race destroyer bpo 2.ob ammo bpo 3.minerials for say 50 ships 4.map of molden heath were stations are. 5.Special ship skin for OBs Camo.or WW1 Ship camo. |
DJINN Jecture
Templar of the Glowing Blade
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Posted - 2015.06.03 15:28:00 -
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DeathwindRising wrote:
It's not limited to a dust player sharing isk between his own eve accounts though. As long as he's a subscription holder, he can engage in isk transactions with ANY eve player.
This means he can pay isk to pilots for that provide orbital support.
It means eve players in FW can supply their sides troops with the ISK to keep fighting.
It means PC corps could hire pilots to their aid.
Isn't that something people would be willing to pay for? Doesn't it also strengthen the eve-dust link?
Likely it is possible that someone may be willing to pay for some Dust side help but they are going to want the best people there not just a bunch of guys who think team killing is fun running around. If you are looking to only strengthen the link of Faction Warfare then the idea is doomed to failure. Not to mention these people who are running FW regular nowadays are using the LP they gain to buy suits and gear, seems to me they don't need payment from capsuleers, they are being paid already.
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DJINN Jecture
Templar of the Glowing Blade
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Posted - 2015.06.03 16:00:00 -
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Marcus Stormfire wrote:
-Also CCP should be aware that they already jumped down a slope that may be very hard to climb back up when they made this game Free to play. Since now they may never be able to implement a required subscription cost without 90% of the community rage quitting.
-Marcus
You mean like when the masses biomassed because Project Legion was announced? Nah if people are invested and already paying around $20 a month the cost of a plex in my country unless you buy a pack of plex (PLEX = Pilot's 30 day License Extension) which are in game assets Eve uses to bring real life money into the game. Current PLEX prices for me. Paying a subscription makes a commitment to the game, shows a desire to play and takes the stakes up for CCP. More subs means more cash in their hands to do the necessary stuff like hiring good game designers, integration with EVE (watch as I am typing this some dev is probably looking over my shoulder going hey I bet we could do this by implementing Legion and adding in those suggestions on another topic about integration...good on you dev but it likely will require more devs).
FYI: PLEX can be bought and sold on the in-game market EVE side and put a cash value to all in-game assets based on what the current plex prices are vs isk sold for on the in-game market.
The way PLEX works is that it gives people who have time to spend in game the ability to pay for their game in game, while there is a subscription option as well (slightly cheaper than buying PLEX with cash) and gives the exact same benefits without being able to sell the game time.
This makes using the current EVE subscription options quite easy to play to play, or pay to play depending on your time commitment to game or ability to make isk.
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The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2015.06.03 16:57:00 -
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DJINN Jecture wrote:Marcus Stormfire wrote:
-Also CCP should be aware that they already jumped down a slope that may be very hard to climb back up when they made this game Free to play. Since now they may never be able to implement a required subscription cost without 90% of the community rage quitting.
-Marcus
You mean like when the masses biomassed because Project Legion was announced? Nah if people are invested and already paying around $20 a month the cost of a plex in my country unless you buy a pack of plex (PLEX = Pilot's 30 day License Extension) which are in game assets Eve uses to bring real life money into the game. Current PLEX prices for me. Paying a subscription makes a commitment to the game, shows a desire to play and takes the stakes up for CCP. More subs means more cash in their hands to do the necessary stuff like hiring good game designers, integration with EVE (watch as I am typing this some dev is probably looking over my shoulder going hey I bet we could do this by implementing Legion and adding in those suggestions on another topic about integration...good on you dev but it likely will require more devs). FYI: PLEX can be bought and sold on the in-game market EVE side and put a cash value to all in-game assets based on what the current plex prices are vs isk sold for on the in-game market. The way PLEX works is that it gives people who have time to spend in game the ability to pay for their game in game, while there is a subscription option as well (slightly cheaper than buying PLEX with cash) and gives the exact same benefits without being able to sell the game time. This makes using the current EVE subscription options quite easy to play to play, or pay to play depending on your time commitment to game or ability to make isk.
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DJINN Jecture
Templar of the Glowing Blade
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Posted - 2015.06.03 17:17:00 -
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Roger Cordill wrote:DJINN Jecture wrote:Marcus Stormfire wrote:
-Also CCP should be aware that they already jumped down a slope that may be very hard to climb back up when they made this game Free to play. Since now they may never be able to implement a required subscription cost without 90% of the community rage quitting.
-Marcus
You mean like when the masses biomassed because Project Legion was announced? Nah if people are invested and already paying around $20 a month the cost of a plex in my country unless you buy a pack of plex (PLEX = Pilot's 30 day License Extension) which are in game assets Eve uses to bring real life money into the game. Current PLEX prices for me. Paying a subscription makes a commitment to the game, shows a desire to play and takes the stakes up for CCP. More subs means more cash in their hands to do the necessary stuff like hiring good game designers, integration with EVE (watch as I am typing this some dev is probably looking over my shoulder going hey I bet we could do this by implementing Legion and adding in those suggestions on another topic about integration...good on you dev but it likely will require more devs). FYI: PLEX can be bought and sold on the in-game market EVE side and put a cash value to all in-game assets based on what the current plex prices are vs isk sold for on the in-game market. The way PLEX works is that it gives people who have time to spend in game the ability to pay for their game in game, while there is a subscription option as well (slightly cheaper than buying PLEX with cash) and gives the exact same benefits without being able to sell the game time. This makes using the current EVE subscription options quite easy to play to play, or pay to play depending on your time commitment to game or ability to make isk. You must not realize how much people actually care about this game. IDK, I have been playing since Closed Beta, I like to believe I have a good understanding about what people have felt in the past about this game and I like to believe I have some idea about how much I care about this game. This is why when I say a PLEX for subbing a game is not that big of a deal I think there are many who would agree. Especially if that elevates our commitment to CCP Games in the Capsuleers eyes and give some incentive for Devs to be hired to make connections between the games.
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Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
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Posted - 2015.06.04 16:36:00 -
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Luther Mandrix wrote:how about link eve subscription to dust account for increased rewards. Make new eve starter pack OB Support pack 1.race destroyer bpo 2.ob ammo bpo 3.minerials for say 50 ships 4.map of molden heath were stations are. 5.Special ship skin for OBs Camo.or WW1 Ship camo.
That's actually rather interesting. What purpose would the map serve? Isnt there a station in every jump in Molden Heath?
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RedBleach LeSanglant
Molon Labe. RUST415
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Posted - 2015.06.04 21:23:00 -
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A subscription for those player that would elect to have one would be alright by me - i just hate actively managing them. Count me in. I would like to have levels of subscription since my time to play is limited - i'm a pay and play individual. Never could use Aur gear, but BPO's are my thing for sure. Skins are getting expensive too. I'm spending the money anyway, might as well get some extra benefits from it.
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DJINN Jecture
Templar of the Glowing Blade
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Posted - 2015.06.04 22:25:00 -
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RedBleach LeSanglant wrote:A subscription for those player that would elect to have one would be alright by me - i just hate actively managing them. Count me in. I would like to have levels of subscription since my time to play is limited - i'm a pay and play individual. Never could use Aur gear, but BPO's are my thing for sure. Skins are getting expensive too. I'm spending the money anyway, might as well get some extra benefits from it. From my time spent running in the same circles you have, with many of the same squad mates and being involved for a time with your corp I know that its made up of a group of dedicated dusters and eve pilots. Would the plex/sub option be something that you could see yourself supporting?
The plex option would be an easier sell if we had PVE to do rather than just PVP so that there would be an ability to just grind isk out rather than a BPO meat-grinder for isk? Or even item transfer from Dust to Eve and vice versa? How about if your Dust account were linked to your Eve account? So your Pilot and Merc were on the same account and it would just be a simple matter of choosing which toon to log in with to decide what you wanted to do (One Client to Rule Them All)?
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