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Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
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Posted - 2015.05.31 04:15:00 -
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Props to Leither and Ripley Riley for this
I know this has probably been discussed here, but F&I, give me you knee jerk reactions when you hear, "What if DUST 514 offered players to pay for a subscription, but also allowed them to continue to play for free if they choose to?" Give me your knee jerk reaction, pros, cons, benefits of having a sub, and discuss! Potential sub price? Same as EVE Online & Planetside 2 @ $15 USD a month?
Discuss! :D
I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
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Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
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Posted - 2015.05.31 04:24:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:This thread is now being watched. Please carry on. o7
Would be nice if you contributed, Mister Atu. :P o7
I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
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Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
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Posted - 2015.05.31 04:47:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:$15 a month is intense, I'd say if it switched platforms then something like this can be considered. For a ps3 game, I'd say that a few are here entirely on the basis they don't have a ps4, or if they do, still enjoy the fact that its free.
Without a platform switch, I'd say it will suffer a severe fallout.
So if DUST went to say, the PS4, you'd pay $15 a month for it? What if it went to PC instead of PS4? Would you pay more, less, or the same amount?
I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
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Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
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Posted - 2015.05.31 04:49:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:Aiwha Bait wrote:Cross Atu wrote:This thread is now being watched. Please carry on. o7 Would be nice if you contributed, Mister Atu. :P o7 Haven't you heard? CPM never contribute anything we just grand stand and lord over the community But fine, if I were to look at a subscription model I would say it mush have value and be optional. Those are foundational to me. An example of a reasonable starting point for such a framework can be seen here. The linked FAQ covers many things so those who care to click the link should go to the subscription section specifically.
I have heard, but the norm needs to be messed with every now and again. :P
Interesting model that EC has. Gonna check it out in depth here in a bit. :D
I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
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Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
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Posted - 2015.05.31 04:56:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:Aiwha Bait wrote:Oswald Rehnquist wrote:$15 a month is intense, I'd say if it switched platforms then something like this can be considered. For a ps3 game, I'd say that a few are here entirely on the basis they don't have a ps4, or if they do, still enjoy the fact that its free.
Without a platform switch, I'd say it will suffer a severe fallout. So if DUST went to say, the PS4, you'd pay $15 a month for it? What if it went to PC instead of PS4? Would you pay more, less, or the same amount? *looks at CPM 1 campaign platform* what if it went to both?
Por que no los dos? Genio!
I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
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Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
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Posted - 2015.05.31 05:28:00 -
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Talos Vagheitan wrote:I'm curious about how Dust 2.0 / Legion will do this on the next platform.
Will CCP continue the F2P with micro transaction model, or go to a subscription system? What would be better?
I think F2P is the way to go personally.
- Dust is currently profiting from it - CCP has shown they can do it without making the system exploitable (Pay to Win) - Dust needs players. F2P is probably the best way to draw in large quantities of players in a short period of time - Such a breath of fresh air when most modern shooters cost over $100 factoring in mandatory DLC packs. I've spent more on Dust, but I feel much better about, seeing as CCP hasn't tried to squeeze the most possible money out of me while providing the bare minimum content like EA.
I actually have been thinking about this as well. *if* DUST 2.0 were to move to either PS4 or PC, would CCP make you buy the game once (and not at $60. God no. Maybe $20 or $30), keep the F2P microtransaction model, or as you said, use a sub model? I wouldn't be opposed to buying the game once for $20 or $30 (I like that Elder Scrolls Online finally did that). A subscription would be cool, but I dont think I would sub, due to a lack of funds each month. Of course the F2P, microtransaction model is really nice in my opinion, even though others disagree.
I do agree with your points too. :D Very true.
I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
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Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
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Posted - 2015.05.31 13:32:00 -
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Lady MDK wrote:Integrate planetary gameplay into EVE online itself... wallop, dust becomes a subscription game. It is possible to play eve without paying if you play it enough (or well enough) that rule should stand true for the integrated dust gameplay parts as well.
Oh yea the expansion needs to be called Legion ;)
I see what you did there. ;) Is integrating it w/ EVE on the Planetary Conquest front enough to justify making it a subscription game? What about those of us who havent participated in a PC battle at all, and dont plan on doing so? In what you're talking about, would the game still keep the free-to-play model it currently has?
I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
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Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
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Posted - 2015.05.31 13:39:00 -
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Luther Mandrix wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:I actually much prefer monthly subscription games....in my experience they tend to be better supported. But I also have concerns about moving from a free model to a subscription model at this point in the game. So a hybrid of the two would likely be more appropriate. So the question we have to ask what would you get for subscribing to Dust vs FTP? 1.More bandwith? 2.More Dropsuit Fittings over 50? 3.Ability to move stations? 4.Choice of Warbarge (nice looking new one vs what we got) 5.Head of the line Priority 6.Dusts Singularity in other contracts were you get to try stuff out first. 7.Discount on all arum item purchases
1. I hope you dont mean more bandwith for euipment...That seems awfully close to pay-to-win for my liking. 2. What does this mean? 3. Would be nice. :P Would kinda wanna move into Gallente territory just to f*ck with them. 4. A Quafe Warbarge would be pretty nice. xD 5. Meaning? 6. Yes. Would find this quite interesting. 7. Yep. 5% off of all AUR purchases, maybe?
I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
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Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
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Posted - 2015.05.31 13:43:00 -
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Cyzad4 wrote:If more money to CCP meant they would get things out quicker with less bugs and we got a few nice bonuses I would be all for a voluntary subscription. And this is coming from a person who's only put in MAYBE $80-$100 in the entire time I've been playing.
There's no guarantee that stuff would get out quicker. They'd still have the same development team. HOWEVER, if enough people subscribed, we may be able to pay for a new dev or two.
I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
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Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
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Posted - 2015.06.03 04:25:00 -
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Lady MDK wrote:Aiwha Bait wrote:Lady MDK wrote:Integrate planetary gameplay into EVE online itself... wallop, dust becomes a subscription game. It is possible to play eve without paying if you play it enough (or well enough) that rule should stand true for the integrated dust gameplay parts as well.
Oh yea the expansion needs to be called Legion ;) I see what you did there. ;) Is integrating it w/ EVE on the Planetary Conquest front enough to justify making it a subscription game? What about those of us who havent participated in a PC battle at all, and dont plan on doing so? In what you're talking about, would the game still keep the free-to-play model it currently has? I dont play Planetary conquest.... I mean actually make dust a feature in eve.... Pub matches would be exactly what they are now from your station quarters you goto a console and configure your search for battle type or maybe you can scan the eve cluster somehow and the map shows you current queues for pub matches and your compatibility with them (your MU compared to the average amount of other players in the match) you can join one just as you do now. For factional warfare Eve pilots can put contracts on to a district in a system they are fighting for space superiority in and vice versa - if you play more as boots on the ground you can put a contract into the system for space support, available contracts actually show in the star map. I would envisage in both these modes travel is similar to what it is now clone jumping everywhere although if th battles are shown on the map there is nothing to stop you fying to the battle and landing on the district this would increase the MMO aspect but keeping the shooter aspect similar to what it is. My original idea involved utilizing the download on demand feature of EVE to spot that you only had a non subscribing account and only downloading the moduls possibl to play dust and interface with the dust market and pub/FW battles and PVE. If you went full subscriber you would be able to fly to planets that showed up in the map as having battle queues on them, and take part in industry lowsec and nullsec SOV PC as well as the free to play stuff. There maybe others ways to make money as well and buy plex to subscribe for free. The issue with a free to play/ subscriber option is you always end up with a 2 class system as there must be a reason to subscribe.
Wow. This is f*cking interesting. It would put DUST in a positoon in which it would have more people potentially working on it, which is always good. :D
I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
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Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
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Posted - 2015.06.04 16:36:00 -
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Luther Mandrix wrote:how about link eve subscription to dust account for increased rewards. Make new eve starter pack OB Support pack 1.race destroyer bpo 2.ob ammo bpo 3.minerials for say 50 ships 4.map of molden heath were stations are. 5.Special ship skin for OBs Camo.or WW1 Ship camo.
That's actually rather interesting. What purpose would the map serve? Isnt there a station in every jump in Molden Heath?
I try to play this game, I just suck at it. Writer for Biomassed
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