stuff like this is good.

1 more dropsuit fittings
2 free respecs
3 access to test content through other contracts
4 free AUR each month
5 permanent skill boosters?

These sound good, but I would restrict the free respec to 1 per year to avoid Flavor of the month chasing.

None of the benefits can have a direct effect on combat abilities while in a match. They should be perks of convenience, improved interfaces for Meta Game (outside match) aspects of the game, and AUR items such as Boosters.

If Dust players who pay a subscription had access to the mail interface in EVE Gate, that would be worth a subscription for a lot of people, particularly CEO's and Corp Directors.

A subscription should also include a permanent Passive, and Active booster as long as your subscription is active as well.

I agree with this very much. But again, I don't think this is currently necessary unless CCP Rattati and his team feel that it's necessary for continued financial support towards improving Dust.

Still not sold?

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I agree with this very much. But again, I don't think this is currently necessary unless CCP Rattati and his team feel that it's necessary for continued financial support towards improving Dust.

Still not sold?

How about this:

- the ability to send isk between dust and eve characters? Can be setup to only benefit the player by adding an additional wallet for dust players. Isk can't be traded to other dust mercs from this wallet. Isk can be sent to any eve player.

I'd very much say that a subscription option should be just that, and option but so long as it is optional and provides good value (i.e. the money input is of equal or greater weight than the rough AUR value output) then it is just another player choice on the table which I am all for. Of course it would have to be a possible net gain for the game as well, and we certainly don't want a new option that comes with a pay to win price tag, I think those are givens, but so long as the quality of the optional method is sound I don't see why there would need to be a threshold of necessity before adding this option for players could be considered.

0.02 ISK

I dont play Planetary conquest....

I mean actually make dust a feature in eve....

Pub matches would be exactly what they are now from your station quarters you goto a console and configure your search for battle type or maybe you can scan the eve cluster somehow and the map shows you current queues for pub matches and your compatibility with them (your MU compared to the average amount of other players in the match) you can join one just as you do now.

For factional warfare Eve pilots can put contracts on to a district in a system they are fighting for space superiority in and vice versa - if you play more as boots on the ground you can put a contract into the system for space support, available contracts actually show in the star map.

I would envisage in both these modes travel is similar to what it is now clone jumping everywhere although if th battles are shown on the map there is nothing to stop you fying to the battle and landing on the district this would increase the MMO aspect but keeping the shooter aspect similar to what it is.

My original idea involved utilizing the download on demand feature of EVE to spot that you only had a non subscribing account and only downloading the moduls possibl to play dust and interface with the dust market and pub/FW battles and PVE.

If you went full subscriber you would be able to fly to planets that showed up in the map as having battle queues on them, and take part in industry lowsec and nullsec SOV PC as well as the free to play stuff.

There maybe others ways to make money as well and buy plex to subscribe for free.

The issue with a free to play/ subscriber option is you always end up with a 2 class system as there must be a reason to subscribe.

I'd very much say that a subscription option should be just that, an option but so long as it is optional and provides good value (i.e. the money input is of equal or greater weight than the rough AUR value output) then it is just another player choice on the table which I am all for. Of course it would have to be a possible net gain for the game as well, and we certainly don't want a new option that comes with a pay to win price tag, I think those are givens, but so long as the quality of the optional method is sound I don't see why there would need to be a threshold of necessity before adding this option for players could be considered.

0.02 ISK

The issue with a free to play/ subscriber option is you always end up with a 2 class system as there must be a reason to subscribe.

I think we should avoid that. My current Personal EvE wallet numbers just over 140 billion isk. I would not want anyone to have the ability to shift 40 billion of that over to Dust. IF that were to happen then all hell would break loose. Proto tanks and vehicles galore while the poor guy who does not play EvE gets shafted. If CCP did something like this then they should give Mercenaries their own currency and have a New Eden Bank (NPC) to run an exchange rate or a Concord sanctioned limited isk transfer. I digress as this is getting off topic and deserves it's own thread.

-Back on topic. It seems that the majority here so far would support the idea of an optional subscription if the benefits were purely cosmetic and lore related.

-Also CCP should be aware that they already jumped down a slope that may be very hard to climb back up when they made this game Free to play. Since now they may never be able to implement a required subscription cost without 90% of the community rage quitting.

-Marcus

It's not limited to a dust player sharing isk between his own eve accounts though. As long as he's a subscription holder, he can engage in isk transactions with ANY eve player.

This means he can pay isk to pilots for that provide orbital support.

It means eve players in FW can supply their sides troops with the ISK to keep fighting.

It means PC corps could hire pilots to their aid.


Isn't that something people would be willing to pay for? Doesn't it also strengthen the eve-dust link?

-Also CCP should be aware that they already jumped down a slope that may be very hard to climb back up when they made this game Free to play. Since now they may never be able to implement a required subscription cost without 90% of the community rage quitting.

-Marcus

You mean like when the masses biomassed because Project Legion was announced? Nah if people are invested and already paying around $20 a month the cost of a plex in my country unless you buy a pack of plex (PLEX = Pilot's 30 day License Extension) which are in game assets Eve uses to bring real life money into the game. Current PLEX prices for me. Paying a subscription makes a commitment to the game, shows a desire to play and takes the stakes up for CCP. More subs means more cash in their hands to do the necessary stuff like hiring good game designers, integration with EVE (watch as I am typing this some dev is probably looking over my shoulder going hey I bet we could do this by implementing Legion and adding in those suggestions on another topic about integration...good on you dev but it likely will require more devs).

FYI: PLEX can be bought and sold on the in-game market EVE side and put a cash value to all in-game assets based on what the current plex prices are vs isk sold for on the in-game market.

The way PLEX works is that it gives people who have time to spend in game the ability to pay for their game in game, while there is a subscription option as well (slightly cheaper than buying PLEX with cash) and gives the exact same benefits without being able to sell the game time.


This makes using the current EVE subscription options quite easy to play to play, or pay to play depending on your time commitment to game or ability to make isk.

You must not realize how much people actually care about this game.

how about link eve subscription to dust account for increased rewards.
Make new eve starter pack OB Support pack
1.race destroyer bpo
2.ob ammo bpo
3.minerials for say 50 ships
4.map of molden heath were stations are.
5.Special ship skin for OBs Camo.or WW1 Ship camo.

A subscription for those player that would elect to have one would be alright by me - i just hate actively managing them. Count me in. I would like to have levels of subscription since my time to play is limited - i'm a pay and play individual. Never could use Aur gear, but BPO's are my thing for sure. Skins are getting expensive too. I'm spending the money anyway, might as well get some extra benefits from it.