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Superherorawdon MiSfItS
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Posted - 2012.07.24 20:51:00 -
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idk about all the bullshit thats been said since the OP (as i didnt bother to read it)
but im bumping this ish just cause i agree that a training room of some sort is DEFINITELY needed.
'Die with Dignity' |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.07.25 01:38:00 -
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RolyatDerTeufel wrote:CmdrWang confirmed a test server for Dust. hell yes
u know the sayin......pics or he didnt say it :P
id like confirmation from a dev plz or a post where he said it |
mandrill the red
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.25 12:29:00 -
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This could be easily combined with my Dust E-Sports Vision
Allowing the servers rented with AUR to have fully customizable rule sets will allow for multiple training scenarios and allow the different Leagues/Associations to have their own distinct rulesets.
I'd not looked at custom servers in a great deal of detail in my concept, just that they should be available. Mavado V Noriega seems to have though about this in greater depth than me and as such I'd fully support adding this concept to mine (or adding mine to his ;D) |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.08.21 20:43:00 -
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no SP gains in VR want SPs? go play in real matches
also bump for newbies who might have missed this and new PS+ members coming in |
Rhadiem
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.21 20:47:00 -
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bump to the guy who probably feels he should bump his old thread because he came up with this idea ages ago and wants everyone to know ;)
haven't read it, but think a "safe" spot to run about and shoot and fly stuff is a good idea. |
Brock Motsu
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Posted - 2012.08.21 23:51:00 -
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Totally agree!
This takes me back to my Battlefield 2 days when I had to either make a private server and train myself or join a clan and have them host a training session on their server for pilots and whatnot.
Maybe this would be a good use for "THE DOOR" |
Andius Fidelitas
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.22 02:40:00 -
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I agree with this, very well done, and it can definately have high uses, a usefull tool to teach standard drills and situations, and make the use of squads truly meaningfull. |
Kilgada Harbing
Ghost Machinations
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Posted - 2012.08.22 05:42:00 -
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+1 and bump for this great idea on a necessary feature. |
Templar Two
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.22 07:00:00 -
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Give up Mavado. If they where interested they would have said you.
VR, though a great idea that I support 100%, will not see the light simply because it will takes time make/implement it, and more time to test it. At this point in the developed cycle it is just too late for that. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.08.23 13:54:00 -
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Templar Two wrote:Give up Mavado. If they where interested they would have said you.
VR, though a great idea that I support 100%, will not see the light simply because it will takes time make/implement it, and more time to test it. At this point in the developed cycle it is just too late for that.
then they clearly havent paid attention to other games' downfall which i have been trying to point out and have them avoid
good to know this will meet the same fate as other games that released with 0 private setting for clans to practice, clans will go elsewhere to more clan friendly games and conduct their business and this will end up just like MAG....... |
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Goric Rumis
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.23 18:04:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:Templar Two wrote:Give up Mavado. If they where interested they would have said you.
VR, though a great idea that I support 100%, will not see the light simply because it will takes time make/implement it, and more time to test it. At this point in the developed cycle it is just too late for that. then they clearly havent paid attention to other games' downfall which i have been trying to point out and have them avoid good to know this will meet the same fate as other games that released with 0 private setting for clans to practice, clans will go elsewhere to more clan friendly games and conduct their business and this will end up just like MAG....... Seriously?! GIVE UP?!
Mavado, please don't listen to this guy. He has no idea what he's talking about.
CCP is on a continual development cycle. This is a great idea. Maybe it doesn't get into the initial release, but CCP doesn't stop developing when they release. This idea has a lot of potential to gain traction and end up in a future release. I, for one, love the idea of training grounds for corps.
I would love to see a simulator as well, where you could do some basic tests on your builds. Unlike EVE, DUST isn't going to have NPC battles, so there isn't as much opportunity to see how specific combinations work without facing off with other players. The same simulator functionality could also serve for new player training, where you could walk players through how the game works at a reasonable pace instead of expecting them to learn in the heat of battle.
The short of it is, Mavado, the devs do listen. It's never too late in the development cycle because the next development cycle is right around the corner. And this is a good idea that has real potential to be implemented. |
Goric Rumis
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
80
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Posted - 2012.08.23 18:10:00 -
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Templar Two wrote:Give up Mavado. If they where interested they would have said you.
VR, though a great idea that I support 100%, will not see the light simply because it will takes time make/implement it, and more time to test it. At this point in the developed cycle it is just too late for that. Templar Two, I am going to find you and grief you in-game for saying this. (Not that it's something to fear. I'm a terrible shot.) It's untrue and it discourages people from making good suggestions. |
VicBoss
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
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Posted - 2012.08.23 19:20:00 -
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Templar Two wrote:Give up Mavado. If they where interested they would have said you.
VR, though a great idea that I support 100%, will not see the light simply because it will takes time make/implement it, and more time to test it. At this point in the developed cycle it is just too late for that.
Never give up! Trust your instincts!
but honestly i really cant see ccp dropping the ball on this, it may not be in at launch but it will be there eventually |
Brock Motsu
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Posted - 2012.08.24 10:40:00 -
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Once again I agree. DONT GIVE UP!
I can completely see this as something they add, but not for awhile.
Theres too many things like all the separate factions dropsuits and vehicles and what not.
not to meantion the pages and pages of bugs I am sure we have all generated.
Having been a beta tester before, I can honestly say that it is best to be patient.
Ther is an A S S load going on behind the scenes that we are not seeing.
it will come. In time |
NoZephyr
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.24 11:14:00 -
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+1 for VR training. Personally I favour a no risk / no reward model, with or without a nominal ISK cost. |
Virex Staz
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.08.27 12:30:00 -
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+1
I really, really need somewhere I can practice just shooting at stuff. I've had a few people suggest the best way for someone new to PS3 FPS (like me) to get used to the controls is to play a completely different game, one with a single player mode. I don't think CCP really want to be driving new players to other games. |
Aardwolf Pneumatic
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.08.27 12:56:00 -
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/bump.
This request and addition should be seriously considered by CCP :P |
Maximum Appendage
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.27 14:15:00 -
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Great idea, haven't read all replies so sorry if I'm repeating anyone but it would be great to be able to test out any vehicles & weapons too, to get an idea of what you want to specialize in without wasting ISK & SP. Also save wasting money & being a hinderance to the team when learning to operate a vehicle on the battlefield. |
AetherFall
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.28 04:17:00 -
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100% yes |
Patches The Hyena
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Posted - 2012.08.28 05:30:00 -
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I agree with a training area. When I played BF 2142 competitively we spent 80% of our time in game going over strategy and practicing amongst ourselves in our own unranked (meaning no rewards) server.
While I like the idea I think an entirely free mode goes against the EVE mindset. Small scale practice for one individual merc to learn to fly his new aircraft or whatever is great. But if you're going to have an area for large scale corp practices it should come at a cost.
Obviously make all training no risk, you don't deplete suits, mods, vehicles etc and gain no SP or ISK reward. However for large scale practices force a Dust corp that has no EVE corp affiliation to pay some ISK, lore explanation could be you're paying a use fee to a Npc corp. Then any Dust corp with affiliations to a 0.0 EVE corp that controls its own planets could either pay a similar use fee or use their planets for free to train based on whatever arrangement they come too.
I think this achieves the goal while still keeping with the EVE mindset. |
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Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2012.08.28 09:50:00 -
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Patches The Hyena wrote:I agree with a training area. When I played BF 2142 competitively we spent 80% of our time in game going over strategy and practicing amongst ourselves in our own unranked (meaning no rewards) server.
While I like the idea I think an entirely free mode goes against the EVE mindset. Small scale practice for one individual merc to learn to fly his new aircraft or whatever is great. But if you're going to have an area for large scale corp practices it should come at a cost.
Obviously make all training no risk, you don't deplete suits, mods, vehicles etc and gain no SP or ISK reward. However for large scale practices force a Dust corp that has no EVE corp affiliation to pay some ISK, lore explanation could be you're paying a use fee to a Npc corp. Then any Dust corp with affiliations to a 0.0 EVE corp that controls its own planets could either pay a similar use fee or use their planets for free to train based on whatever arrangement they come too.
I think this achieves the goal while still keeping with the EVE mindset.
not in favour of the ISK cost to train tbh if its a one time fee to pay for a facility then sure but recurring fee no and the price has to be reasonable i wont mind paying AUR for a training facility but an ISK ver should be there as well
Also @ bolded I run a competitive clan as well, currently on BF3 and i agree serious clans/corps will want a place to test stuff and go over strats. This raises the level of play involved and without it i can assure u like MAG this will be a zerg rush game |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.08.28 11:20:00 -
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Ok, a little detail...
Would you be limited to the fits that you re already skilled for, or could you try out equipment you don't yet have the SP to run?
On the one hand you could argue that you need the basic skillbook knowledge before you could operate a simulated item, and on the other that a simulator could dumb things down just as AUR items do with a "simplified instruction set".
The latter would let you try out a new specialty free, but at the possible expense of making it too attractive to leave and being a real letdown going back to your more limited "real" gear. On the other hand it might give more incentive to skill for something. |
Quietus Lum
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.28 13:45:00 -
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I agree completely with this idea. No risk/No reward, just a place to hone your skills, improve your aim, and test out your weaponry. I desperately need something like this, as I am a TERRIBLE shot.
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DaReaperPW
Net 7 The Last Brigade
5
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Posted - 2012.08.31 21:34:00 -
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i agree. There should be something like this, you get no isk or sp's but it would be nice to load a fit and then see how it works for you. Hell its taken me forever to figure out how to get the sniper rifle to work, and other such things in the game. Would be nice if i was trying a new weapon i could get a few shots off before dying while trying to figure out what the heck this thing does. |
Thor Thunder Fist
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2012.09.01 01:03:00 -
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talk about a old thread..... maybe we'll be able to go to SiSi once we get on tranquility to test things out there like EVE has |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.09.01 05:20:00 -
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Thor Thunder Fist wrote:talk about a old thread..... maybe we'll be able to go to SiSi once we get on tranquility to test things out there like EVE has
my VR idea is a bit more complex than just goin on a test server tbh |
Templar Two
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
459
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Posted - 2012.09.01 09:55:00 -
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I stopped bumping my ideas long ago but you Mavado are relentless. VR Training Room should come true simply to honor your effort.
Also guys I am not discouraging him, not seriously. In my firs post here I suggested, among he other things, a VR training but then I found out others did it already so I was as happy; "I am not alone" I thought. Now I am sad because in so much time CPC never, ever, even come out here saying "Sorry Mavado, it won't happen" |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.09.01 13:27:00 -
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Templar Two wrote:I stopped bumping my ideas long ago but you Mavado are relentless. VR Training Room should come true simply to honor your effort.
Also guys I am not discouraging him, not seriously. In my firs post here I suggested, among he other things, a VR training but then I found out others did it already so I was as happy; "I am not alone" I thought. Now I am sad because in so much time CPC never, ever, even come out here saying "Sorry Mavado, it won't happen"
that sort of "givin up" mentality will see this game fail tbqh if its something u see as being crucial to the game ill support it till the devs say otherwise. NO ONE can deny something like this is absolutely important to the game for both solo newbies, corps, individuals just wanting to get better.
I dont wanna see corp battles just turn out to be "zerg here!, zerg there!" i want to see corps/alliances put time in and develop proper strats, that is why i play FPS competitively for the strategic play involved along with the skill
As it stands right now this game will push ppl away rather than attract them with the current setup NO ONE wants to spend millions of ISK just to get used to the dropship controls or tank controls NO ONE wants to experiment with a tank fitting costing 3+ mill just to see if its feasible or garbage all these things turn ppl off the game....blow a bunch if ISK trying to learn **** and u gotta grind to make it back up
if the devs cant see how important something like this is then they are ******** and the game will flop |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.09.01 13:37:00 -
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I really want VR training, mainly for dropship practice without going broke. |
Octavian Vetiver
Dog Nation United Relativity Alliance
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Posted - 2012.09.01 16:43:00 -
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Also agree......would be handy.....especially for invasion or defense planning purposes......make covert ops frigates have the ability to conduct a planetary scan and then GTFO. And then they can load data and corps/alliances can use that to conduct training ops in VR. Would help in planning objectives and where to defend and where to attack at once you actually get in. And they could just use a semi-smart AI or even something like the sleeper or incursion AI. |
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