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Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 6325	Posted - 2015.05.09 14:33:00 - [31] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I like to think that recently we are taking at least 2 steps forward and one backward with our regular updated, I will be the first to admit that we don't always get it right in the first attempt. I am hoping that PC 2.0 is a solid non-exploitable end game, and we are working on a new progression model for new players. He has a point with the Microsoft part..=ƒÿ¡ This could have been next gen and been on PC/Xboxone...I think I just died a little There was never any hope for that. Microsoft would never allow that kind of setup without being able to get their fingers into everything associated with it, IE the Tranquility server as that other guy mentioned. Microsoft is too self-assured of their financial position to even try to negotiate with anyone who won't meet their terms without argument. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
TEXA5 HiTM4N ROGUE SPADES 609	Posted - 2015.05.09 15:59:00 - [32] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I like to think that recently we are taking at least 2 steps forward and one backward with our regular updated, I will be the first to admit that we don't always get it right in the first attempt. I am hoping that PC 2.0 is a solid non-exploitable end game, and we are working on a new progression model for new players. psst... PS4 still doesn't have a decent shooter. but really. move to the PS4. The PC is cool and all but your playerbase is mainly consoles. have some loyalty. kick CCP rogue in the balls and teeth if you have to. have districts be able to farm material to sell for isk. making joining a corp mean something. not just these band wagon try hard corps yall are stuck with. PVE, homie. what glutton for punishment of a newbie is going to stay playing this game when every game after the academy is just a proto stomp? give them a semi safe place to hone to their SP and figure out what they are good at.
LOL KILLZ LulKlz 59	Posted - 2015.05.09 16:57:00 - [33] - Quote People b**** to much, did you pay to get this game people, NO!!!!! CEO of LulKlz/ chat channel LulKlz, code 0000 <--- numbers
Justice Darling Horizons' Edge No Context 67	Posted - 2015.05.09 17:35:00 - [34] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I like to think that recently we are taking at least 2 steps forward and one backward with our regular updated, I will be the first to admit that we don't always get it right in the first attempt. I am hoping that PC 2.0 is a solid non-exploitable end game, and we are working on a new progression model for new players. Its funny when I've said that this was a issue before the end of closed beta, and I asked for some kind of tier system. I us to have to sit on the towers with my drop ship to get kills, Yeah sorry I started that, cuss I was only able to play a little bit vs all the time and I got trolled for making the suggestion of a tier system. What changed your minds to help the new players now? It's like my mother always told me! Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana Rana
Talos Vagheitan Ancient Exiles. 1222	Posted - 2015.05.09 17:47:00 - [35] - Quote LOL @ these posts Who cares what some sniper has to say. **--CCP, let's push for the license of Dust/Legion on both current Gen consoles-
Aeon Amadi Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 9975	Posted - 2015.05.09 17:47:00 - [36] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I like to think that recently we are taking at least 2 steps forward and one backward with our regular updated, I will be the first to admit that we don't always get it right in the first attempt. I am hoping that PC 2.0 is a solid non-exploitable end game, and we are working on a new progression model for new players. Just don't forget about your veteran playerbase. New player features are fantastic but many veterans feel as though we're running out of content. You guys are like a broken record with this "CPM material" business xD Let it go
You-Should-Put Some ICE-on-THAT New Eden Job Department 1	Posted - 2015.05.10 03:18:00 - [37] - Quote I have seen this a few times in other posts and Matius said it in the original post. This game is a First person shooter at its core, its foundation. There are components of this genre you cannot deviate from, if you do then its is no longer a shooter. Nobody is saying "Lets make it BF4 in SPACE!" what some people are trying to point out is that it doesn't stack up at all in its core mechanic (yes industry and exploration may someday become equal mechanics). For right now some attention needs to be paid to how this shooter shoots. Also this may not have been something that crossed somebody's mind, but perhaps we can leave the actually footwork on the console. Create a program or application for the PC to do things like character creation, better fitting management, industry management. Just a thought.
Operative 1174 Uuali Y.A.M.A.H 678	Posted - 2015.05.10 03:22:00 - [38] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I like to think that recently we are taking at least 2 steps forward and one backward with our regular updated, I will be the first to admit that we don't always get it right in the first attempt. I am hoping that PC 2.0 is a solid non-exploitable end game, and we are working on a new progression model for new players. Suit tiericide now! Basic and role suits only. One tier each. Mods define the basic, skills define the role suits. Skills define the fitting ability. Death is a serious businessGÇª So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11028	Posted - 2015.05.10 03:33:00 - [39] - Quote Dust514 over the years summed up I mean this in the best possible way. I actually think its great that the game has tried SO HARD to improve itself. It'll get there. Either Dust will eventually get amazing and port to PS4, or Leigion will. If they keep trying this hard to improve the game, CCP will see success eventually. Currently listening to: Max Anarchy OST Old School Scout, watch out for the knives
You-Should-Put Some ICE-on-THAT New Eden Job Department 1	Posted - 2015.05.10 03:34:00 - [40] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: I like to think that recently we are taking at least 2 steps forward and one backward with our regular updated, I will be the first to admit that we don't always get it right in the first attempt. I am hoping that PC 2.0 is a solid non-exploitable end game, and we are working on a new progression model for new players. Just don't forget about your veteran playerbase. New player features are fantastic but many veterans feel as though we're running out of content. Keep in mind this game is free to play so this model I am about to lay out may be a moot point. Game doesn't stack up at all to market competitors = No new players No new players = No increase in revenue/ low revenue Low revenue = No money for new content and core improvements No new content = Bored veteran players Bored veteran players = No players at all No players at all = Project abandoned It has been stated before this game is a huge project, what we have now is just the tip of the iceberg. As far as content is concerned it doesn't compare to that of most popular FPSs, you need something to draw new players in and bring in new revenue. EvE online continues to grow because there is no other game at all like it on the market, Dust has to compete with every other FPS out there. This is CCP's first shooter, if they don't study other shooters on the market and learn from them then they might as well just give up. Lets make it a good comparable shooter at least in the shooting aspect, then we can draw people into what keeps players loyal.

Vesta Opalus Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 678	Posted - 2015.05.10 03:48:00 - [41] - Quote Matius Indectus wrote: This game was supposed to change the FPS genre Yeah, no, its on the PS3. To change the FPS genre you're going to have to do better than dumbed down console controller interfaces and **** aiming mechanics because mouse & keyboard doesnt work properly.
Matius Indectus Shadow of the Raven 15	Posted - 2015.05.10 03:51:00 - [42] - Quote Vesta Opalus wrote: Matius Indectus wrote: This game was supposed to change the FPS genre Yeah, no, its on the PS3. To change the FPS genre you're going to have to do better than dumbed down console controller interfaces and **** aiming mechanics because mouse & keyboard doesnt work properly. I agree with you 100% thats why I said supposed haha. This game lacks the fundamentals! If you can't read in between the lines, then what makes you think you can write?
Vesta Opalus Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 678	Posted - 2015.05.10 03:52:00 - [43] - Quote Matius Indectus wrote: Vesta Opalus wrote: Matius Indectus wrote: This game was supposed to change the FPS genre Yeah, no, its on the PS3. To change the FPS genre you're going to have to do better than dumbed down console controller interfaces and ** aiming mechanics because mouse & keyboard doesnt work properly. I agree with you 100% thats why I said supposed haha. This game lacks the fundamentals! I just have to take every opportunity to remind people that console shooters are baby FPS's, if someone played DUST 514 all their life and then saw some of the stuff people could do in quake 3, they'd probably ** their pants.
Matius Indectus Shadow of the Raven 15	Posted - 2015.05.10 03:54:00 - [44] - Quote Vesta Opalus wrote: Matius Indectus wrote: Vesta Opalus wrote: Matius Indectus wrote: This game was supposed to change the FPS genre Yeah, no, its on the PS3. To change the FPS genre you're going to have to do better than dumbed down console controller interfaces and ** aiming mechanics because mouse & keyboard doesnt work properly. I agree with you 100% thats why I said supposed haha. This game lacks the fundamentals! I just have to take every opportunity to remind people that console shooters are baby FPS's, if someone played DUST 514 all their life and then saw some of the stuff people could do in quake 3, they'd probably ** their pants. Dust is no normal baby it's, a special one in that sense. If you can't read in between the lines, then what makes you think you can write?
Beld Errmon Nyain San 1833	Posted - 2015.05.10 05:18:00 - [45] - Quote The game really lost its shine with me when everyone got an over powered aimbot in the guise of aim assist. I don't like dying quickly its why I don't play many modern fps games but love games like mechwarrior online (what i mostly play these days) but the thing that really put my love for the game in a death spiral was the decision to destroy KB/M support. Despite all that I adapted my play from run&gun to tanker to ADS pilot, the last being the one thing i truly enjoyed in dust, every few months i give the game another chance to hook me but my incubus is a pale shadow of its former self and running from OP swarmers isn't anymore fun than having a planetside 2 life span on foot. I still hope that project legion is gunna produce a PC version of dust properly tied in with the eve universe and accessible via the eve client, so that i can truly have the game I've wanted since the 90s, but the silence is deafening. Retired bittervet.
Matius Indectus Shadow of the Raven 17	Posted - 2015.05.10 05:26:00 - [46] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: The game really lost its shine with me when everyone got an over powered aimbot in the guise of aim assist. I don't like dying quickly its why I don't play many modern fps games but love games like mechwarrior online (what i mostly play these days) but the thing that really put my love for the game in a death spiral was the decision to destroy KB/M support. Despite all that I adapted my play from run&gun to tanker to ADS pilot, the last being the one thing i truly enjoyed in dust, every few months i give the game another chance to hook me but my incubus is a pale shadow of its former self and running from OP swarmers isn't anymore fun than having a planetside 2 life span on foot. I still hope that project legion is gunna produce a PC version of dust properly tied in with the eve universe and accessible via the eve client, so that i can truly have the game I've wanted since the 90s, but the silence is deafening. One of the biggest issues is very few people lacked the leadership and vision to properly guide this game along. It was well known from the beginning that this game would take a while to reach its full release (also knowing that it would continue to be updated), but they are tried to take leaps and bounds instead of baby steps. I don't have much faith in Legion either, in this day and age the fact that CCP failed so hard with a Shooter let alone an FPS doesnt bode well for them. The window is shrinking for them to net a much larger player base and actually make money. If you can't read in between the lines, then what makes you think you can write?
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC 1097	Posted - 2015.05.10 05:40:00 - [47] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: YOU KILLED KENNY wrote: Although pokey there is no reason to be so rude, he is voicing a lot of thoughts that other players have or had (they don't play anymore). State your point and your evidence, nobody likes a smug prick. Im sorry if I came off as rude. I was just informing him that his interpretation on that point was incorrect. You weren't rude, dude. You called some **** like it is, straight and to the point. Open-Beta Vet. Egbinger Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC 1098	Posted - 2015.05.10 07:33:00 - [48] - Quote As an addition to the history in here since open beta I'd like to add a little something about the choice of Sony. I've said all this before and will again. 1. Sony did back DUST and its release. It got PSStore headlining banner/trailer ads (where I saw it for the first time) as well as sold limited edition DUST branded PS3s in the EU. With an exclusive game and a potent marketing campaign DUST very much had the makings of Sony's own HALO initially. 2. Initially, at opening, EVElings populated the locals, not just to gawk but to help. My individual local had a number of capsuleers who had been a part of the closed portion of DUSTs development and they spent their time greeting noob dustmercs (like me) and explaining what they could as best they could. Granted this was before all the PC Master Race/ capsuleer/consoleer jibbajabba we're polluted with now. YES, things like "HTFU" and "Welcome to New Eden" were a part of that but at the end of the day we were all still just gamers gaming. Before all the ill feelings became ill will. 3. In the months prior to the Rouge Wedding as the forums, these forums, reached a feverpitch of discontent much of the existing dev group at the time broke off from doing the fixing and patches and instead began programming a PC version of DUST for PC. This was the feature item for DUST at the Rouge Wedding, FF14. A new vision, DUST for PC. With bells and whistles, ice cream and cake. Thing is, exclusive distribution contracts are explicit, legal things. Sony, being the largest media distributor in the world, in this is either the greatest friend or the worst entity possible to ** with. And post FF14 they were undeniably innundated with calls for refunds for money spent on this game by players who (rightfully) felt very ripped off at the idea of spending on a long-term game to have it be a PC game instead. And SONY had the reality of their "exclusive" distro deal actually funding a competing product instead of supporting the one they agreed to distribute.** NO, Sony doesn't "own" DUST (far as I know) but the Distribution Rights are a different matter. TL;DR We're very lucky, VERY LUCKY any of us are here. Trash talk Sony all you want but realize they could have ended this dream entirely, in every worthwhile context, last year. Open-Beta Vet. Egbinger Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR
The Lion ElJonson 1st Legion The Dark Angels Learning Alliance 198	Posted - 2015.05.10 12:05:00 - [49] - Quote what if i told you Dust 514 is still a Beta and Project Legion was the start of the finished product? The chat channel 'player trade' is open for adding contacts and placing item advertisements in game.
Matius Indectus Shadow of the Raven 19	Posted - 2015.05.10 18:26:00 - [50] - Quote The Lion ElJonson wrote: what if i told you Dust 514 is still a Beta and Project Legion was the start of the finished product? As long as the game is continued to be approved upon, you could say its in perpetual Beta. You can make a turd sparkle and shove it on stage tell it to dance, but that still doesn't defeat the fact that it's still a turd. You may realize that this had the potential to be Sony's, and it is possible Sony did as well. What you and a few others keep failing to realize is the fact this project is much larger than any game ever ever put into Development, with the possible exception of No Man sky coming close to it. This project from the beginning required a full studios worth of developers with experience in making shooters. I respect CCP Rattati more than anybody, but he is trying to save a sinking freighter with a skeleton crew an a hole in the hull to rival that of the titanic. This is why I mentioned microsoft in my original thread, it wasn't to say Microsoft was the right choice but to give an example of the most logical COA (course of action). I can't think of many PS exclusive shooters, most of the good ones are on both platforms, aside from time crisis. I don't think they realized at the beginning of this how much help and what kind of help they would need. Advertisment was the last thing this game needed so early on, it needed dedicated experienced staff and a lot of them. A great game will sell itself, with social media and the internet word about this epic in scale FPS would have spread like wildfire in California. el OPERATOR the support sony gave was that of a father giving his infant son the Birds and the bees talk when he is trying to walk. It was not the support that was needed. "People will not play a shooter that does not shoot well." "You can attach all manner of bells and whistles, but a turd is still a turd." If you can't read in between the lines, then what makes you think you can write?

You-Should-Put Some ICE-on-THAT New Eden Job Department 3	Posted - 2015.05.10 19:07:00 - [51] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Dust514 over the years summed up I mean this in the best possible way. I actually think its great that the game has tried SO HARD to improve itself. It'll get there. Either Dust will eventually get amazing and port to PS4, or Leigion will. If they keep trying this hard to improve the game, CCP will see success eventually. Another question for you then. When this game "Gets there" are you willing to sacrifice all of your SP and Isk (AUR would be refunded)? How many other veterans are gonna want to start from scratch? The answer is most likely both is "HELL NO!" "Why would we have to reset all our hard work?" Well new players aren't going to enjoy getting stomped by proto suites and tanks. "Why don't they get proto suits and AV like us?" That takes time and isk which you can't get when you are getting your **** kicked in by one staffing, bouncing mofo with a 'Noob tube'. The same mentality that EvE has succeeded with won't work in Dust, again this is an FPS it has too much competition. I honestly don't believe a lot of players are truly getting the scale of this game. What you are seeing right now is maybe fifty different planet environment (referring to maps and being EXTREMELY generous). Most of these planets appear to be Barren planets. In low security space alone there are 2044 barren planets and additional 8650 in null security space. Full entire planets and those are just the barren planets. There are 3843 temperate planets in Low and Null, Matius is right the possible scale and depth of this game dwarfs that of every game out there. The amount of resources required to create this universe at this level, would require an entire Development studio for years to complete even a fraction of it. (You could use the algorithm method and it would make it a bit easier)
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC 1100	Posted - 2015.05.10 22:37:00 - [52] - Quote Matius Indectus wrote: el OPERATOR the support sony gave was that of a father giving his infant son the Birds and the bees talk when he is trying to walk. It was not the support that was needed. Point is tho that Sony gave the support they agreed to give. Just because your indie band signs a distribution deal with Sony does not obligate Sony to hire Rick Ruben to engineer and master your recordings. It will obligate your band however to deliver their album. And if your band suddenly decides to only ship half of those albums while sending the other half to a Sony competitor while sending Sony your solo albums to make up the physical difference in album counts, that's a breach. And grounds for some major legal action. It isn't Sonys fault DUST is on "life-support" because CCP dev members decided to run it off the road. As it is Sony is still providing access to a stable distributive network of gamers across the agreed platform while also potentially allowing access to the 14million+ PS4 owners. A larger customer pool than MS/Xbox without CCP having to give up their server soverignty as Pokey described ^. You want to talk about a Protostomp? Sony's legal team vs. CCP's in court after what created fanfest'14 came to light. Lucky for everyone Sony didn't decide to just sue CCP outright. Open-Beta Vet. Egbinger Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 6331	Posted - 2015.05.10 22:41:00 - [53] - Quote el OPERATOR wrote: Matius Indectus wrote: el OPERATOR the support sony gave was that of a father giving his infant son the Birds and the bees talk when he is trying to walk. It was not the support that was needed. Point is tho that Sony gave the support they agreed to give. Just because your indie band signs a distribution deal with Sony does not obligate Sony to hire Rick Ruben to engineer and master your recordings. It will obligate your band however to deliver their album. And if your band suddenly decides to only ship half of those albums while sending the other half to a Sony competitor while sending Sony your solo albums to make up the physical difference in album counts, that's a breach. And grounds for some major legal action. It isn't Sonys fault DUST is on "life-support" because CCP dev members decided to run it off the road. As it is Sony is still providing access to a stable distributive network of gamers across the agreed platform while also potentially allowing access to the 14million+ PS4 owners. A larger customer pool than MS/Xbox without CCP having to give up their server soverignty as Pokey described ^. You want to talk about a Protostomp? Sony's legal team vs. CCP's in court after what created fanfest'14 came to light. Lucky for everyone Sony didn't decide to just sue CCP outright. Looooot of supposition in that second paragraph. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC 1101	Posted - 2015.05.10 22:50:00 - [54] - Quote The Lion ElJonson wrote: what if i told you Dust 514 is still a Beta and Project Legion was the start of the finished product? Problem there is that the two products are basically the same game in the same context and setting using the same graphical representations and imagery. Only one was developed with resource assets legally obligated to be elsewhere. Legion can be the greatest game ever seen but it won't matter if it isn't able to be distributed so that it can be seen . If I open a Toyota dealership Toyota has to send me Toyotas. Not Scions, not Nissans, not Fords. And they have to supply them in the numbers and at the rates we agree to. And if I tell Toyota that I'll be their dealer and have them build my lot I don't get to park a couple of their cars out back under tarps while I cover every square inch of the new facility in Cadillacs. Open-Beta Vet. Egbinger Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC 1101	Posted - 2015.05.10 22:55:00 - [55] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: Matius Indectus wrote: el OPERATOR the support sony gave was that of a father giving his infant son the Birds and the bees talk when he is trying to walk. It was not the support that was needed. Point is tho that Sony gave the support they agreed to give. Just because your indie band signs a distribution deal with Sony does not obligate Sony to hire Rick Ruben to engineer and master your recordings. It will obligate your band however to deliver their album. And if your band suddenly decides to only ship half of those albums while sending the other half to a Sony competitor while sending Sony your solo albums to make up the physical difference in album counts, that's a breach. And grounds for some major legal action. It isn't Sonys fault DUST is on "life-support" because CCP dev members decided to run it off the road. As it is Sony is still providing access to a stable distributive network of gamers across the agreed platform while also potentially allowing access to the 14million+ PS4 owners. A larger customer pool than MS/Xbox without CCP having to give up their server soverignty as Pokey described ^. You want to talk about a Protostomp? Sony's legal team vs. CCP's in court after what created fanfest'14 came to light. Lucky for everyone Sony didn't decide to just sue CCP outright. Looooot of supposition in that second paragraph. Last I checked Sony is still letting us play on PS3's. And yeah hopefully they'll allow us onto PS4. My money is on they do, but the bar for "proof of concept" was raised exponentially. Good news is DUST was profitable apparently. Hopefully the endless nerf/buff/fix/re-envision **** stops so it can stay that way. Open-Beta Vet. Egbinger Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR
BAD FURRY Oh No You Didn't 864	Posted - 2015.05.12 21:17:00 - [56] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: You might not get everyone to like it or agree but you will be setting a president that no one else is able or have the courage to do . This is an excellent point. EVE Online still has yet to break 1 million total players, but while other MMOs rise and fall regularly the EVE playerbase is fanatically dedicated, and even the people who try to move on frequently end up coming back. THAT is the kind of playerbase you want. Not the massive scale fly-by-nights who eventually leave, but the smaller group of dedicated players who can't get enough of the world you built for them. Nah, let's just throw away the people who got captured by the game and dedicated a huge chunk of their time on it. Unfortunately, the appearance of that being the intent is why this game can barely reach 3000 concurrent users in any timezone ever since FanFest 2014. Many of the people I've talked to about this game in EVE were certain CCP Shanghai was about to suffer the same fate as CCP Atlanta. For those that don't know, after years of trying to make some slow progress on World of Darkness, that division of the company was shut down and the project cancelled. Some of the employees there were transferred to other divisions, but many had to be let go. The fact that so little is being said about this game that the EVE community considers it in the same boat as World of Darkness is rather troubling. World of Darkness was part of CCP Shanghai they lost like i think 2 of there team when WoD was killed funny how ccp thinks the rest of them can do better when rely they all should have been "let go" and used the money to hirer A new team with more of a understanding of FPS online games and on line mmo,s /rpg but where talking china here so rely shutting down all of but what was needed to run eve in china and hirer a team from some where els would have been better like a team from usa ny or a team from the EU ( just not from Germany ) or better a mix usa and British team to work on dust 514 like value do,s from time to time . thing about china is there not all up to speed on the new gambling gen and lack of free speech gives them more of a handy cap in game making. as for Germany its been shown time and time that a Germany dev team takes games and brakes this rule #68 Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
Forced Death Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 818	Posted - 2015.05.12 21:43:00 - [57] - Quote Matius Indectus wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Matius Indectus wrote: 2. You let sony get the best part of a bad deal. You let them own you with a deal that benefitted them (for like 8 months) and didn't even really charge them for it. CCP you undersold what this game is worth, I could have gone to microsoft with this idea and pitched it to them as the biggest thing since Halo CE. Not only would have been on the next gen console, but with windows 10 coming out (which is going to bring cross console gaming back PC & Xbox anyway) you could has pushed for a PC port as well. Ok let me give you a history lesson. CCP initially approached Microsoft. Microsoft doesn't like letting games on their system play with others, and insisted that if there was going to be crossover between Dust and EVE, that Microsoft have access to the Tranquility Server. CCP isn't stupid and refused to allow another company access to the single server that fuels their bread and butter, EVE Online. Sony however had no issue with Dust's interlink with EVE, so Sony got the game. This is the exact same reason why Final Fantasy XIV is not on XBox 360/One. Square Enix wanted crossplay between PC, PS3/4, and XBox 360/One. Microsoft refused to have a game that shared servers with a Playstation game. So Square Enix gave Microsoft the finger and released on PC, PS3, and PS4 -- all with simultaneous cross play. Moral of the story is that Microsoft is a total ***** when it comes to gaming, and I have zero sympathy for them losing out on games because of it. That still doesn't address the issue of why an aging console over next gen or PCs. I hate microsoft as much as the next guy for their bullshit greed. The point I was attempting to make which your hate of microsoft may have caused you to overlook, was the fact that they got an outdated console and had to independently work on a huge project. Building an FPS alone takes a whole studio (well building a good one anyway) not just a team, looking at the progress so far implies that CCP hasn't had much help or that the CCP guys are the only ones doing any work. There are two console producers on the market (nintendo is kind of a joke) Sony and Microsoft. Also microsoft wanted to turn this into WoW 514. maybe DUST 514 was made when PS3 still had a lifeline???? it's not like they knew PS4 and Xbox One was coming out when they made this game and prepared ports for it 11M SP Gallente Logistics G/1 Series Scout M/1 Series Assault M/1 Series I'm doing something wrong
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 1718	Posted - 2015.05.12 22:06:00 - [58] - Quote Really the problem with DUST is the repeated mistake after mistake. As an analogy, consider the following; Imagine DUST as special needs kid. It's a unique FPS, with very specific needs. But then CCP give's it a gun. Not a normal gun, but a shotgun. One that, while holding it, shoots down directly at your feet. What does DUST do? Obviously pulls the trigger. Now DUST is laying there crying because it just shot itself in the foot. CCP being the kind people they are decide to hire a clown to try to cheer DUST up. Does it work? No. DUST is deathly afraid of clowns. Now it's laying there in a pool of blood scared literally shitless; because yes the clown made it ** itself. Mistake after mistake CCP makes DUST into what it was at 1.8. Then CCP does something miraculous and hires a special needs care giver. What do you know it actually works. But at this point DUST is still covered in blood, tears, and of which not all of is it's own. The Rat man is doing a hell of a job cleaning this mess up. But it's over a year of blood, tears, and ** to clean up. Mace yourself, blame someone else itGÇÖs okay, no one will believe you AIV member.
Matius Indectus Shadow of the Raven 24	Posted - 2015.05.12 23:29:00 - [59] - Quote I read more and more threads and realize why this game has failed. "When are we gonna get tank skins?" "I want a nova sword and hammer and brass knuckles!" What is this Warhammer 40k Apparently very few people actually care about having a working game over "I have got to look FABULOUS in my new slimming SCOUT SUIT!" Either a lot of women play this game or well the other is implied. "EvE Online has ship skins so why can't we?" A: EvE online has over 500k subscribers and a full development staff, that's why. Dust has like five Guys and CCP ratatti. Very few people on here have the slightest clue how basic development works, luckily it is really common sense in disguise. Note: I am not placing an ad or shout out merely making a reference Watch Extra Credits on youtube, they literally talk about a lot of game design basics. Fix the hitboxes before making more microtransaction crap, this game is free to play and I would gladly draw my friends and coworkers into it. Thats if the game worked as a shooter, fix that first then we can worry about how my ass looks in this sentinel suit. If you can't read in between the lines, then what makes you think you can write?
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 1718	Posted - 2015.05.13 00:04:00 - [60] - Quote Matius Indectus wrote: Fix the hitboxes They're not broken. Fix your aim. Matius Indectus wrote: before making more microtransaction crap If the team isn't showing their boss that the game can make money, what do you think it going to happen to the game? Mace yourself, blame someone else itGÇÖs okay, no one will believe you AIV member.



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