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Matius Indectus Shadow of the Raven 1	Posted - 2015.05.09 04:35:00 - [1] - Quote I have been playing since the Beta, and as much as I hate to be one of the people to point this out (although I'm not the only one) this game has gone down hill. Between the poor controls and micro transactions, this game has become a real turn off. In the Alpha and Beta you could overlook poor core mechanics, dry scenery, and lack of interesting content, but we arent in Beta anymore are we? I used to love what this game could have been, and I am sickened by what it has become. This game was supposed to change the FPS genre, to show that there is more to be desired than camping hallways and bunny hopping. I'm not sure if anybody is truly to blame for this tragedy, or if it was just a fault caused by the gaming market that exists today. At this pace Dust 514 will never reach a point where it is economically viable, let alone a masterpiece in gaming. I know this post may catch some flak, but sometimes the truth causes conflict. Those who were in charge if this project guided it into a ditch on the side of dirt road, the core component and concepts needed to get a game off the ground were ignored. My faith in this project is nearing its end, and I will explain why. 1. It's on a console and a last gen one at that. Everybody knew the next gen consoles would be out soon, okay haha not everyone apparently. I used to believe that consoles have a place in gaming, which they do if you are novice and have not the means to assemble a rig that can handle gaming. As much as PC would have been a better platform (I can discuss this further if anybody wishes to challenge me) the least they could have done was released it on the next Gen. 2. You let sony get the best part of a bad deal. You let them own you with a deal that benefitted them (for like 8 months) and didn't even really charge them for it. CCP you undersold what this game is worth, I could have gone to microsoft with this idea and pitched it to them as the biggest thing since Halo CE. Not only would have been on the next gen console, but with windows 10 coming out (which is going to bring cross console gaming back PC & Xbox anyway) you could has pushed for a PC port as well. 2,5. (Because people hate big paragraphs) With that whole deal you probably could have gotten financial and development backing from Studios like 343 or Epic, and those are just studios that work more closely with microsoft. Don't get me wrong I have hundreds more hours on the sony machines that the Xboxs, I am taking a purely business stance on this. 3. Community feedback is always good, but take everything with a grain of salt. Common sense is a very rare super power in this day and age, players may say something is overpowered solely because they were to lazy to figure out how to counter it or it wasn't something that was in their last favorite shooter. Remember what games most of these players are coming from in the FPS community. Stupid players that know how to use a keyboard will ruin the game to make it more like CoD or BF then leave once the new games come out. There was a brief time in Dust when you could kill a Sagaris with an assault rifle 4. "You are casting your line before you choose a lure and bait." You don't have the player base to push these features out yet and you are only giving those loyal players more of an edge to curb stomp new joins. If you want to get a strong and growing player base the game has to look good visually and play well. I should not switch from hardline (which is bad as well) to playing Dust and say "Why does it feel like I'm trying to play an arcade shooter, with the controls from PacMan." I hate to be the bad guy and speak against what everybody has grown accustomed to. We need to push the boundaries of gaming and Dust can do that, but first let's make it a passable FPS.
Dreis ShadowWeaver 0uter.Heaven Back and Forth 3524	Posted - 2015.05.09 04:37:00 - [2] - Quote All I know is that CCP has said that DUST 514 is now profitable. That's good. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel My Minja Blog Day 22/30 exclusively Minja
Matius Indectus Shadow of the Raven 1	Posted - 2015.05.09 04:43:00 - [3] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: All I know is that CCP has said that DUST 514 is now profitable. That's good. Well that depends on what one defines as "Profit" sure have 1 dollar after all expenditures is technically a profit, but is it really? The rate that Dust 514 is being developed, it may eventually resemble a current day shooter in five years. Also note for this game to be viable in EvE as well you need a significant number of players, matching the EvE numbers would be scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6198	Posted - 2015.05.09 05:05:00 - [4] - Quote Matius Indectus wrote: 2. You let sony get the best part of a bad deal. You let them own you with a deal that benefitted them (for like 8 months) and didn't even really charge them for it. CCP you undersold what this game is worth, I could have gone to microsoft with this idea and pitched it to them as the biggest thing since Halo CE. Not only would have been on the next gen console, but with windows 10 coming out (which is going to bring cross console gaming back PC & Xbox anyway) you could has pushed for a PC port as well. Ok let me give you a history lesson. CCP initially approached Microsoft. Microsoft doesn't like letting games on their system play with others, and insisted that if there was going to be crossover between Dust and EVE, that Microsoft have access to the Tranquility Server. CCP isn't stupid and refused to allow another company access to the single server that fuels their bread and butter, EVE Online. Sony however had no issue with Dust's interlink with EVE, so Sony got the game. This is the exact same reason why Final Fantasy XIV is not on XBox 360/One. Square Enix wanted crossplay between PC, PS3/4, and XBox 360/One. Microsoft refused to have a game that shared servers with a Playstation game. So Square Enix gave Microsoft the finger and released on PC, PS3, and PS4 -- all with simultaneous cross play. Moral of the story is that Microsoft is a total *** when it comes to gaming, and I have zero sympathy for them losing out on games because of it. "That little st Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast & Blog www.biomassed.net
DUST Fiend 16950	Posted - 2015.05.09 05:17:00 - [5] - Quote Matius Indectus wrote: 2. You let sony get the best part of a bad deal. You let them own you with a deal that benefitted them (for like 8 months) and didn't even really charge them for it. You had a really strong opening, and then I was kinda sorta with you up until the bolded and yea bro. Ya lost me "When in doubt, dropship out" If you see me, bring AV to collect ISK DUST STUFF
Matius Indectus Shadow of the Raven 4	Posted - 2015.05.09 05:24:00 - [6] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Matius Indectus wrote: 2. You let sony get the best part of a bad deal. You let them own you with a deal that benefitted them (for like 8 months) and didn't even really charge them for it. CCP you undersold what this game is worth, I could have gone to microsoft with this idea and pitched it to them as the biggest thing since Halo CE. Not only would have been on the next gen console, but with windows 10 coming out (which is going to bring cross console gaming back PC & Xbox anyway) you could has pushed for a PC port as well. Ok let me give you a history lesson. CCP initially approached Microsoft. Microsoft doesn't like letting games on their system play with others, and insisted that if there was going to be crossover between Dust and EVE, that Microsoft have access to the Tranquility Server. CCP isn't stupid and refused to allow another company access to the single server that fuels their bread and butter, EVE Online. Sony however had no issue with Dust's interlink with EVE, so Sony got the game. This is the exact same reason why Final Fantasy XIV is not on XBox 360/One. Square Enix wanted crossplay between PC, PS3/4, and XBox 360/One. Microsoft refused to have a game that shared servers with a Playstation game. So Square Enix gave Microsoft the finger and released on PC, PS3, and PS4 -- all with simultaneous cross play. Moral of the story is that Microsoft is a total ***** when it comes to gaming, and I have zero sympathy for them losing out on games because of it. That still doesn't address the issue of why an aging console over next gen or PCs. I hate microsoft as much as the next guy for their bullshit greed. The point I was attempting to make which your hate of microsoft may have caused you to overlook, was the fact that they got an outdated console and had to independently work on a huge project. Building an FPS alone takes a whole studio (well building a good one anyway) not just a team, looking at the progress so far implies that CCP hasn't had much help or that the CCP guys are the only ones doing any work. There are two console producers on the market (nintendo is kind of a joke) Sony and Microsoft. Also microsoft wanted to turn this into WoW 514.
Matius Indectus Shadow of the Raven 4	Posted - 2015.05.09 05:32:00 - [7] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Matius Indectus wrote: 2. You let sony get the best part of a bad deal. You let them own you with a deal that benefitted them (for like 8 months) and didn't even really charge them for it. You had a really strong opening, and then I was kinda sorta with you up until the bolded and yea bro. Ya lost me What I was aiming to say was that Sony would benefit from having Dust exclusive to their product, but it seems that all they did was put a free to play game pre download on their soon to be outdated consoles. What other "Child support" did CCP get? If you can't read in between the lines, then what makes you think you can write?
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6198	Posted - 2015.05.09 05:45:00 - [8] - Quote Matius Indectus wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Matius Indectus wrote: 2. You let sony get the best part of a bad deal. You let them own you with a deal that benefitted them (for like 8 months) and didn't even really charge them for it. CCP you undersold what this game is worth, I could have gone to microsoft with this idea and pitched it to them as the biggest thing since Halo CE. Not only would have been on the next gen console, but with windows 10 coming out (which is going to bring cross console gaming back PC & Xbox anyway) you could has pushed for a PC port as well. Ok let me give you a history lesson. CCP initially approached Microsoft. Microsoft doesn't like letting games on their system play with others, and insisted that if there was going to be crossover between Dust and EVE, that Microsoft have access to the Tranquility Server. CCP isn't stupid and refused to allow another company access to the single server that fuels their bread and butter, EVE Online. Sony however had no issue with Dust's interlink with EVE, so Sony got the game. This is the exact same reason why Final Fantasy XIV is not on XBox 360/One. Square Enix wanted crossplay between PC, PS3/4, and XBox 360/One. Microsoft refused to have a game that shared servers with a Playstation game. So Square Enix gave Microsoft the finger and released on PC, PS3, and PS4 -- all with simultaneous cross play. Moral of the story is that Microsoft is a total ***** when it comes to gaming, and I have zero sympathy for them losing out on games because of it. That still doesn't address the issue of why an aging console over next gen or PCs. I hate microsoft as much as the next guy for their bullshit greed. The point I was attempting to make which your hate of microsoft may have caused you to overlook, was the fact that they got an outdated console and had to independently work on a huge project. Building an FPS alone takes a whole studio (well building a good one anyway) not just a team, looking at the progress so far implies that CCP hasn't had much help or that the CCP guys are the only ones doing any work. There are two console producers on the market (nintendo is kind of a joke) Sony and Microsoft. Also microsoft wanted to turn this into WoW 514. Im not saying the game shouldn't go to next gen. The point i'm making is that you're accusing CCP of not putting it on Xbox when they tried to but Microsoft was impossible to work with. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast & Blog www.biomassed.net
deezy dabest 2209	Posted - 2015.05.09 05:52:00 - [9] - Quote The game has gone no where and is only now starting to recover from what was absolutely terrible planning from the inception. Who they signed a contract with and what they agreed to has little to do with it. Instead of focusing on putting out the content and then balancing server side it took us years to get to a point of having balance on things that we have with lots of stuff still missing. The game was released with an absolutely terrible end game model. No end game means people are going to get bored and move on making retention horrible. New player experience and properly introducing players to all of the aspects of a very complicated game was almost 100% over looked. Only recently have we even seen it mentioned as something they want to work on. What do you really expect when your business model is missing all of the key ingredients. You only get enough people to stick around to offset the people that you are losing thanks to zero retention and by design you are stagnant from the start. Once you factor in the fact that the game is incomplete and is using a model that is based on what will happen soon(TM) you have an absolute recipe for disaster. CCP should be giving Ratatti money for the rest of his life whether he works for them or not. The fact that CCP handed over a ship that had already been rammed into an ice berg and set on fire only to have it somehow saved to a point that they can call it profitable could seriously be referred to as a miracle. We should also be thanking Sony for this game even being still in existence as from the outside it would seem that it was a move of desperation on CCPs part to fulfill their contract time that caused them to give in and hand the reins over to Ratatti as well as allow him to finally throw away the "10 year road map" and soon(TM) which were an which were two of the biggest factors in why the game went absolutely no where. P.S. I give a little bit of credit to CCP on the fact that they got really burned by carbon just not being able to be run on the PS3 but that was just another management screw up in how that forced change over was obviously handled.
YOU KILLED KENNY Shadow of the Raven 0	Posted - 2015.05.09 05:55:00 - [10] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Matius Indectus wrote: 2. You let sony get the best part of a bad deal. You let them own you with a deal that benefitted them (for like 8 months) and didn't even really charge them for it. CCP you undersold what this game is worth, I could have gone to microsoft with this idea and pitched it to them as the biggest thing since Halo CE. Not only would have been on the next gen console, but with windows 10 coming out (which is going to bring cross console gaming back PC & Xbox anyway) you could has pushed for a PC port as well. Ok let me give you a history lesson. CCP initially approached Microsoft. Microsoft doesn't like letting games on their system play with others, and insisted that if there was going to be crossover between Dust and EVE, that Microsoft have access to the Tranquility Server. CCP isn't stupid and refused to allow another company access to the single server that fuels their bread and butter, EVE Online. Sony however had no issue with Dust's interlink with EVE, so Sony got the game. This is the exact same reason why Final Fantasy XIV is not on XBox 360/One. Square Enix wanted crossplay between PC, PS3/4, and XBox 360/One. Microsoft refused to have a game that shared servers with a Playstation game. So Square Enix gave Microsoft the finger and released on PC, PS3, and PS4 -- all with simultaneous cross play. Moral of the story is that Microsoft is a total ***** when it comes to gaming, and I have zero sympathy for them losing out on games because of it. This is what he meant by flak I take it. I agree with Pokey, Microsoft is horrible but so is every other huge corporation. If they had asked nintendo they would have wanted to have an italian plumber and his brother in the game. Although pokey there is no reason to be so rude, he is voicing a lot of thoughts that other players have or had (they don't play anymore). State your point and your evidence, nobody likes a smug prick. The idea of what a video game is has changed mainly due to greed, I respect CCP for not selling out. Unfortunately Dust 514 is much too complex a project to complete alone, there probably was a better way. Although for something that has been in the works since '09 its kinda meh.

Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2735	Posted - 2015.05.09 05:56:00 - [11] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: All I know is that CCP has said that DUST 514 is now profitable. That's good. Profitable, aye. But at what price? New Eden tarted up and made to turn tricks like some Ammarian streetwalker? PSN: RationalSpark
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 6199	Posted - 2015.05.09 06:04:00 - [12] - Quote YOU KILLED KENNY wrote: Although pokey there is no reason to be so rude, he is voicing a lot of thoughts that other players have or had (they don't play anymore). State your point and your evidence, nobody likes a smug prick. Im sorry if I came off as rude. I was just informing him that his interpretation on that point was incorrect. "That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032 Dust514 // Podcast & Blog www.biomassed.net
Matius Indectus Shadow of the Raven 5	Posted - 2015.05.09 06:11:00 - [13] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Im not saying the game shouldn't go to next gen. The point i'm making is that you're accusing CCP of not putting it on Xbox when they tried to but Microsoft was impossible to work with. I did not say CCP failed to take it to Microsoft, I stated I could have and I should have clarified that the whole line of thought was meant to show what could have been done (even for the Sony equivalent) but wasn't. I only accused them of underselling the game. Once again, you highlighted the fact that I choose Microsoft as an example to display how much they could done. I basically flipped a coin of which to elaborate on. You saying that final fantasy did exactly that cross console concept on the Sony side, only confirmed that CCP has failed to do exactly that. There are a handful of Devs that are trying to save this project but this is a full sized game. I'm not saying your wrong or disagreeing with you, I'm just saying chill out and read sooo in depth. I apologize if I wasn't specific enough or clear in my line of thought. If you can't read in between the lines, then what makes you think you can write?
You-Should-Put Some ICE-on-THAT New Eden Job Department 0	Posted - 2015.05.09 06:32:00 - [14] - Quote I watched a tank get killed by nova knives. Just throwing that out there. This becomes the issue with how the video game market works. You need money to hire Devs to make a complete game. CCP has worn out most players patience and they have either left or sworn off spending more money in the game. I don't see this game working out like EvE online in the long term, it has way too much competition and the learning curve is way too steep. Matius and Jackie chang Lee have both made the case that this game has failed at its core as an FPS, it doesn't come near to stacking up to modern shooters in gameplay and visuals. You aren't gonna want to date a fat ugly girl/guy (chubby chasers excluded), their personality doesn't matter if you can't stand to look at them let alone touch them. Once the game looks and plays well you can start expanding the player base, the retention comes from the level of complexity that the game can have while still allowing for you to have a quick match before work.
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Back and Forth 8033	Posted - 2015.05.09 06:38:00 - [15] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: All I know is that CCP has said that DUST 514 is now profitable. That's good. so is clash of clans... Vote Viktor Hadah for CPM2 or i'll take your districts and hurt you. Get Dust ISK Here

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 22235	Posted - 2015.05.09 08:32:00 - [16] - Quote I like to think that recently we are taking at least 2 steps forward and one backward with our regular updated, I will be the first to admit that we don't always get it right in the first attempt. I am hoping that PC 2.0 is a solid non-exploitable end game, and we are working on a new progression model for new players. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 8468	Posted - 2015.05.09 10:05:00 - [17] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I like to think that recently we are taking at least 2 steps forward and one backward with our regular updated, I will be the first to admit that we don't always get it right in the first attempt. I am hoping that PC 2.0 is a solid non-exploitable end game, and we are working on a new progression model for new players. My only problems with the game honestly stem mostly from the fact that the PS3 limitations utterly ** me off. I may be a pushy git, and cynical as hell, but the game is more fun than it was this time last year. If I can ask one thing, please find a way to convince the powers that be to allow you to shift DUST to the PS 4 or PC. And get them to authorize an announcement of such. I firmly believe that the increased capacity of both systems will allow your team more creative freedom, and potentially give us the chance to overcome obstacles that we cannot fix on the current platform. And quit nerfing my cynicism V you viking bastard. That skill used to have value. Wasred SP with each update. There's never enough shposting going on, so let's add a few more teaspoons of the guy posting after me to the recipie!
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 16495	Posted - 2015.05.09 10:47:00 - [18] - Quote Train Politics to at least IV. I'm saving my SP for that. "Breakin, PS3's and PS4's can't mate. They're incompatible. Unlike Apache's and Cappuccino machines." - *Cat wisdom*
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 8473	Posted - 2015.05.09 11:37:00 - [19] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Train Politics to at least IV. I'm saving my SP for that. The hell you say you FOTM chasing scrub There's never enough sh**posting going on, so let's add a few more teaspoons of the guy posting after me to the recipie!
Radar R4D-47 0uter.Heaven Back and Forth 977	Posted - 2015.05.09 12:03:00 - [20] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I like to think that recently we are taking at least 2 steps forward and one backward with our regular updated, I will be the first to admit that we don't always get it right in the first attempt. I am hoping that PC 2.0 is a solid non-exploitable end game, and we are working on a new progression model for new players. PC 1.0 was awesome. Period it was the best game mode to play. Until it was realized that it was exploitable there was no comparison. The battles and chest beating were at a all time peak no one controlled the whole map because it just wasn't possible. Passive isk gen to give incentive to spend the 240mil to take a district, there also wasnt 245cargo hubs because we thought surface research labs were useful and production facilities gave more isk. Still believe with proper clone attrition rates this could have been fixed before it was a thing No one was locking because it was more enjoyable to defend. Probably because no one realized it either. Still can't find a work around to this unless CCP monitored battles in some way to confirm an actual fight took place. Only one battle per day per district allowed you to have variability in your team and your enemy team. Probably the biggest change that ruined PC. Sure it made it easier to take districts but it allowed Nyain San the opportunity to do what they did. Which led to farming and removal of isk. Not to mention the removal of mercenary work. Also made you have to handle logistics because clones you sent could be wasted and too few you could be cloned out. Before I really thought about this I didn't realize how massive a change this really was. #ThinkingisOP So really just don't listen to the community we just want to exploit because that's what people do. Find the easiest way to get what they want.

Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 2063	Posted - 2015.05.09 13:35:00 - [21] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I like to think that recently we are taking at least 2 steps forward and one backward with our regular updated, I will be the first to admit that we don't always get it right in the first attempt. I am hoping that PC 2.0 is a solid non-exploitable end game, and we are working on a new progression model for new players. And that's what matters , forget about the past as far as trying to make up for it because there's nothing that YOU can do about that , the best thing is like you said ... to move forward but with that being said ... you might want to stop listening to these people that are trying to make this game into something that's it's not and that's every other shooter out there . Stop trying to incorporate game modes , mechanics and other attributes from other games and step out of their shadows and make a name for yourself in the industry , meaning ... items like tiericide and such that work in other games , give this something that others do not have and that's originality ... I was really upset to see halo jumps and while they are fun for some , what's the reason to play this game if it's so much like the others and the fact that's it's still a work in progress should leave so much more room for improvement and not morphing into another vanilla shooter that's on the market . Yes you do have a lot of competition out there but what sets this game apart to me isn't even New Eden .. it's the fact that originally it stepped outside the box of so many other games that it couldn't do anything but be appealing to those who were looking for something different . Don't change that . It seems like your going the route of other shooters but please allow this game to remain different and a challenge . If people continue to say the learning curve is steep it's because there use to having everything spoon fed to them at once , where everything and everyone is the same with zero difference except the skill of the character . Here you have suits that differ , weapons that differ and a bunch of ideals that differ form the norm ... loose that and then you will loose all of your appeal because New Eden can't carry this game like it does EVE but stepping outside the norm and continuing to do so will and the fact that this game is an actual challenge is something that sets it aside from the rest with their predictable nature . Don't make mods percentage based , don't incorporate tiericide and stop trying to incorporate other games mechanics into this one and allow this game to continue to grow and stand apart from the rest and trust me , you will get the die hard gamers to flock to this game and continue to drive it into tomorrow . You might not get everyone to like it or agree but you will be setting a president that no one else is able or have the courage to do . Doubts are like bothersome flies and should be treated as such and crushed . #PubsShouldBeRandomPlayers
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 6323	Posted - 2015.05.09 13:43:00 - [22] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I like to think that recently we are taking at least 2 steps forward and one backward with our regular updated, I will be the first to admit that we don't always get it right in the first attempt. I am hoping that PC 2.0 is a solid non-exploitable end game, and we are working on a new progression model for new players. Could you offer any estimates as to when we'll hear about that second part? It'd be cool to have some better new-player retention. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
BAD FURRY Oh No You Didn't 863	Posted - 2015.05.09 13:43:00 - [23] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Matius Indectus wrote: 2. You let sony get the best part of a bad deal. You let them own you with a deal that benefitted them (for like 8 months) and didn't even really charge them for it. CCP you undersold what this game is worth, I could have gone to microsoft with this idea and pitched it to them as the biggest thing since Halo CE. Not only would have been on the next gen console, but with windows 10 coming out (which is going to bring cross console gaming back PC & Xbox anyway) you could has pushed for a PC port as well. Ok let me give you a history lesson. CCP initially approached Microsoft. Microsoft doesn't like letting games on their system play with others, and insisted that if there was going to be crossover between Dust and EVE, that Microsoft have access to the Tranquility Server. CCP isn't stupid and refused to allow another company access to the single server that fuels their bread and butter, EVE Online. Sony however had no issue with Dust's interlink with EVE, so Sony got the game. This is the exact same reason why Final Fantasy XIV is not on XBox 360/One. Square Enix wanted crossplay between PC, PS3/4, and XBox 360/One. Microsoft refused to have a game that shared servers with a Playstation game. So Square Enix gave Microsoft the finger and released on PC, PS3, and PS4 -- all with simultaneous cross play. Moral of the story is that Microsoft is a total ***** when it comes to gaming, and I have zero sympathy for them losing out on games because of it. to some it up ccp when to wii xbox and ps3 wii was crap xbox dint want to go a pc/console sony was like we will blow you if you make it for ps3 only .... and then was like o btw you need to pay us now for that blow . and thats how this game got to be on ps3 Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 6323	Posted - 2015.05.09 13:46:00 - [24] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: You might not get everyone to like it or agree but you will be setting a president that no one else is able or have the courage to do . This is an excellent point. EVE Online still has yet to break 1 million total players, but while other MMOs rise and fall regularly the EVE playerbase is fanatically dedicated, and even the people who try to move on frequently end up coming back. THAT is the kind of playerbase you want. Not the massive scale fly-by-nights who eventually leave, but the smaller group of dedicated players who can't get enough of the world you built for them. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 16497	Posted - 2015.05.09 13:48:00 - [25] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: You might not get everyone to like it or agree but you will be setting a president that no one else is able or have the courage to do . This is an excellent point. EVE Online still has yet to break 1 million total players, but while other MMOs rise and fall regularly the EVE playerbase is fanatically dedicated, and even the people who try to move on frequently end up coming back. THAT is the kind of playerbase you want. Not the massive scale fly-by-nights who eventually leave, but the smaller group of dedicated players who can't get enough of the world you built for them. Nah, let's just throw away the people who got captured by the game and dedicated a huge chunk of their time on it. "Breakin, PS3's and PS4's can't mate. They're incompatible. Unlike Apache's and Cappuccino machines." - *Cat wisdom*
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 6323	Posted - 2015.05.09 13:54:00 - [26] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: You might not get everyone to like it or agree but you will be setting a president that no one else is able or have the courage to do . This is an excellent point. EVE Online still has yet to break 1 million total players, but while other MMOs rise and fall regularly the EVE playerbase is fanatically dedicated, and even the people who try to move on frequently end up coming back. THAT is the kind of playerbase you want. Not the massive scale fly-by-nights who eventually leave, but the smaller group of dedicated players who can't get enough of the world you built for them. Nah, let's just throw away the people who got captured by the game and dedicated a huge chunk of their time on it. Unfortunately, the appearance of that being the intent is why this game can barely reach 3000 concurrent users in any timezone ever since FanFest 2014. Many of the people I've talked to about this game in EVE were certain CCP Shanghai was about to suffer the same fate as CCP Atlanta. For those that don't know, after years of trying to make some slow progress on World of Darkness, that division of the company was shut down and the project cancelled. Some of the employees there were transferred to other divisions, but many had to be let go. The fact that so little is being said about this game that the EVE community considers it in the same boat as World of Darkness is rather troubling. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
diablo gamekeeper Escrow Removal and Acquisition No Context 206	Posted - 2015.05.09 13:55:00 - [27] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Matius Indectus wrote: 2. You let sony get the best part of a bad deal. You let them own you with a deal that benefitted them (for like 8 months) and didn't even really charge them for it. CCP you undersold what this game is worth, I could have gone to microsoft with this idea and pitched it to them as the biggest thing since Halo CE. Not only would have been on the next gen console, but with windows 10 coming out (which is going to bring cross console gaming back PC & Xbox anyway) you could has pushed for a PC port as well. Ok let me give you a history lesson. CCP initially approached Microsoft. Microsoft doesn't like letting games on their system play with others, and insisted that if there was going to be crossover between Dust and EVE, that Microsoft have access to the Tranquility Server. CCP isn't stupid and refused to allow another company access to the single server that fuels their bread and butter, EVE Online. Sony however had no issue with Dust's interlink with EVE, so Sony got the game. This is the exact same reason why Final Fantasy XIV is not on XBox 360/One. Square Enix wanted crossplay between PC, PS3/4, and XBox 360/One. Microsoft refused to have a game that shared servers with a Playstation game. So Square Enix gave Microsoft the finger and released on PC, PS3, and PS4 -- all with simultaneous cross play. Moral of the story is that Microsoft is a total ***** when it comes to gaming, and I have zero sympathy for them losing out on games because of it. to some it up ccp when to wii xbox and ps3 wii was crap xbox dint want to go a pc/console sony was like we will blow you if you make it for ps3 only .... and then was like o btw you need to pay us now for that blow . and thats how this game got to be on ps3 My eyes are burning from reading all of the grammar mistakes It will be over soon, and when the Dust settles, no one will be left playing.
Mobius Wyvern Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 6323	Posted - 2015.05.09 13:57:00 - [28] - Quote Diablo Gamekeeper wrote: BAD FURRY wrote: Pokey Dravon wrote: Matius Indectus wrote: 2. You let sony get the best part of a bad deal. You let them own you with a deal that benefitted them (for like 8 months) and didn't even really charge them for it. CCP you undersold what this game is worth, I could have gone to microsoft with this idea and pitched it to them as the biggest thing since Halo CE. Not only would have been on the next gen console, but with windows 10 coming out (which is going to bring cross console gaming back PC & Xbox anyway) you could has pushed for a PC port as well. Ok let me give you a history lesson. CCP initially approached Microsoft. Microsoft doesn't like letting games on their system play with others, and insisted that if there was going to be crossover between Dust and EVE, that Microsoft have access to the Tranquility Server. CCP isn't stupid and refused to allow another company access to the single server that fuels their bread and butter, EVE Online. Sony however had no issue with Dust's interlink with EVE, so Sony got the game. This is the exact same reason why Final Fantasy XIV is not on XBox 360/One. Square Enix wanted crossplay between PC, PS3/4, and XBox 360/One. Microsoft refused to have a game that shared servers with a Playstation game. So Square Enix gave Microsoft the finger and released on PC, PS3, and PS4 -- all with simultaneous cross play. Moral of the story is that Microsoft is a total ***** when it comes to gaming, and I have zero sympathy for them losing out on games because of it. to some it up ccp when to wii xbox and ps3 wii was crap xbox dint want to go a pc/console sony was like we will blow you if you make it for ps3 only .... and then was like o btw you need to pay us now for that blow . and thats how this game got to be on ps3 My eyes are burning from reading all of the grammar mistakes Yeah...that was a bit hard to handle. I'm not sure I ever heard about the Wii being a potential target platform, by the way. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Heimdallr69 Negative-Feedback. 5174	Posted - 2015.05.09 14:00:00 - [29] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: I like to think that recently we are taking at least 2 steps forward and one backward with our regular updated, I will be the first to admit that we don't always get it right in the first attempt. I am hoping that PC 2.0 is a solid non-exploitable end game, and we are working on a new progression model for new players. He has a point with the Microsoft part..=ƒÿ¡ This could have been next gen and been on PC/Xboxone...I think I just died a little Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Tech Ohm Eaven Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 1791	Posted - 2015.05.09 14:11:00 - [30] - Quote This game went the way of low paid source coders, Ccp management not careing and the low paid source coders unable to create a miracle in six months time Then Ccp insulting the players at fanfest._._sigh



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