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Aeon Amadi Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 9533	Posted - 2015.04.17 01:39:00 - [1] - Quote Kay, so, since I've had a multi-week long losing streak; If I lose this next match (hate this match maker btw) I'm just going to start AFKing. Anyone have some good, cheap fits to do this with? Thinking about running a BPO Logi and throwing out nanohives/dropuplinks, screw around until I die once so I can break the WP Threshold and then AFK in the MCC. Definitely looking forward to any suggestions on the best way to AFK. BTW, livestreaming right now so if anyone wants to see how that goes over, feel free to watch. Are you being Angry or Assertive?
Eruditus 920 Nemo Malus Felix 1616	Posted - 2015.04.17 01:44:00 - [2] - Quote Self serving pointless thread. No one cares. Grow a pair and quit crying. "Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
Aeon Amadi Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 9533	Posted - 2015.04.17 01:49:00 - [3] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: Self serving pointless thread. No one cares. Grow a pair and quit crying. At least try to stay on topic instead of just complaining about it Are you being Angry or Assertive?
Eruditus 920 Nemo Malus Felix 1618	Posted - 2015.04.17 01:52:00 - [4] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: Self serving pointless thread. No one cares. Grow a pair and quit crying. At least try to stay on topic instead of just complaining about it The topic is you crying. And you should man up and just stop. And you should also grow a pair if possible. Did I miss anything? "Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 3524	Posted - 2015.04.17 01:53:00 - [5] - Quote *poo flinging ensues Shotguns are made of a Scandium-Ruthenium-Boron enhanced alloy First to PM me with common name wins
Patrick57 9917	Posted - 2015.04.17 01:54:00 - [6] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Kay, so, since I've had a multi-week long losing streak; If I lose this next match (hate this match maker btw) I'm just going to start AFKing. isn't that just adding to the problem?
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 3524	Posted - 2015.04.17 01:55:00 - [7] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Kay, so, since I've had a multi-week long losing streak; If I lose this next match (hate this match maker btw) I'm just going to start AFKing. isn't that just adding to the problem? Not for him. "I got mine" mentality Shotguns are made of a Scandium-Ruthenium-Boron enhanced alloy First to PM me with common name wins
Aeon Amadi Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 9533	Posted - 2015.04.17 01:58:00 - [8] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Kay, so, since I've had a multi-week long losing streak; If I lose this next match (hate this match maker btw) I'm just going to start AFKing. isn't that just adding to the problem? Not for him. "I got mine" mentality Pretty much. Third match I've lost today. Here's what I thought about it. Are you being Angry or Assertive?
jane stalin Ametat Security Amarr Empire 271	Posted - 2015.04.17 02:05:00 - [9] - Quote I honestly don't see the problem with AFKing , I stop doing it because of Whiny bitches but just ignore them. To get 150 WP quickly I would use a shotgun scout The speed lets you hack some yellow installations pick a good spot for an uplink and maybe get some kills,
Aeon Amadi Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 9534	Posted - 2015.04.17 02:08:00 - [10] - Quote jane stalin wrote: I honestly don't see the problem with AFKing , I stop doing it because of Whiny bitches but just ignore them. To get 150 WP quickly I would use a shotgun scout The speed lets you hack some yellow installations pick a good spot for an uplink and maybe get some kills, Oh snap, is it only 150? I thought it was 250. Hah. Well, that makes this a lot easier. Thanks for the advice. Are you being Angry or Assertive?

Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1256	Posted - 2015.04.17 02:10:00 - [11] - Quote Suffering from Artificial Value Inflation? Well, that's your fault. If you farm up WP, but don't really add anything to the winning effort, the matchmaker doesn't know this. It says "good player, this will balance these bad player" and puts you on a team. If you did supply as much value to the field as you farm, you'd be in more winning battles. http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
Aeon Amadi Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 9534	Posted - 2015.04.17 02:17:00 - [12] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Suffering from Artificial Value Inflation? Well, that's your fault. If you farm up WP, but don't really add anything to the winning effort, the matchmaker doesn't know this. It says "good player, this will balance these bad player" and puts you on a team. If you did supply as much value to the field as you farm, you'd be in more winning battles. Alternatively, it's putting me in there because I'm a half decent player who actually contributes a lot to the team in any normal case but because it thinks I'm some kind of super hero it keeps throwing me in matches to make up the difference, thereby screwing me over because I'm a veteran player. Yanno since I didn't -start- AFKing until today. But yanno your assumption might be correct too, what with the fact I keep getting thrown in already over matches and getting 0 WP and all because the match ends before I can even do anything. Much contribution. Such enthralling. Wow. Are you being Angry or Assertive?
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 9374	Posted - 2015.04.17 02:42:00 - [13] - Quote It's times like these when I wonder if the matchmaking is broken or if our playerbase are a bunch of risk averse pansies... Play your matches, lose and yeah maybe even get stomped. Your mu score will adjust accordingly and place you in matches with players more your skill level. There's no shame in it. There is shame in AFK'ing though. Why play the game at all? Just quit and be done with it. @Ripley_Riley
Aeon Amadi Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 9534	Posted - 2015.04.17 02:46:00 - [14] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: It's times like these when I wonder if the matchmaking is broken or if our playerbase are a bunch of risk averse pansies... Play your matches, lose and yeah maybe even get stomped. Your mu score will adjust accordingly and place you in matches with players more your skill level. There's no shame in it. There is shame in AFK'ing though. Why play the game at all? Just quit and be done with it. Maybe because I only had two hours to play the game before I have to get ready for work and I at least want to enjoy them or not waste my [REDACTED] time. That last match was the final straw for me. Five guys against an entire team and I'm somehow expected to actually fight? To actually compete against that? But if I AFK it's Shameful? No. AFKing isn't "risk-averse" it's not being an idiot and putting yourself in a stupid situation when you're just going to lose anyway. I actually respect players who AFK in those kind of matches more than people who just throw themselves at the enemy desperately hoping to somehow turn it around in some 300-esque BS because they're so terrified of how the community views AFKing. Are you being Angry or Assertive?
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 9375	Posted - 2015.04.17 02:53:00 - [15] - Quote Fighting in cheap/free fittings > jerking off in the MCC Sometimes you are the lion. Sometimes you are the gazelle. If you happen to spawn in as a gazelle be sure to kill at least a few lions before they murder you. Oh hell, I'm wasting my time here aren't I? You are going to sit in a puddle of your own piddle in the red line ground spawn regardless of what I say here. @Ripley_Riley
Aeon Amadi Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 9534	Posted - 2015.04.17 02:59:00 - [16] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Fighting in cheap/free fittings > jerking off in the MCC Sometimes you are the lion. Sometimes you are the gazelle. If you happen to spawn in as a gazelle be sure to kill at least a few lions before they murder you. Oh hell, I'm wasting my time here aren't I? You are going to sit in a puddle of your own piddle in the red line ground spawn regardless of what I say here. I didn't start AFKing until today because I'm tired of losing match after match after match - this isn't something I do on the regular and if you actually knew who I was or what I do in game, you'd know that, but since you don't you're just going assume a bunch of BS because of a thread title and some limited evidence that you would not have had unless you came here to whine about something you clearly have no clue about. This isn't a [REDACTED] lion/gazelle thing this is getting thrown into these kinds of matches on the regular Sorry, but some of us actually play this game to have fun, not get their **** kicked into our chest cavities like it's our day job. If you care to actually give some constructive criticism instead of being a douche about it, then maybe I will listen, but until then, yes, you are wasting your time. In what [REDACTED] world would this -EVER- be fun? Why shouldn't I AFK? Why should I be forced to play a game with half-way over matches I have no control over, consistently am going to lose because the match maker things I'm super man, and am always [REDACTED] out numbered? What, do you think this is Dark Souls 514???? Do you think I am some kind of masochist who gets some sexual appeal out of constantly getting screwed over by Scotty? Get out of here, dude. You're just a troll. Are you being Angry or Assertive?
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 9375	Posted - 2015.04.17 02:59:00 - [17] - Quote It isn't smart to post a picture of how you jury rigged your controller to AFK. Pretty certain CCP frowns on that in a big way. Rattati hates it, if I can recall. @Ripley_Riley
Aeon Amadi Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 9535	Posted - 2015.04.17 03:01:00 - [18] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: It isn't smart to post a picture of how you jury rigged your controller to AFK. Pretty certain CCP frowns on that in a big way. Rattati hates it, if I can recall. Like I honestly care at this point. If he wants me to play the game, he'll look at that as a sign of something seriously being wrong. EDIT: Hell, if he really cared, he'd take a look at my track record of activity and notice the sharp and brutal decline since Uprising 1.7 Are you being Angry or Assertive?
Aeon Amadi Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 9535	Posted - 2015.04.17 03:03:00 - [19] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: My constructive criticism is to play the game and not AFK. Don't act like that's some sort of moral high ground, because it's not. Are you being Angry or Assertive?
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 9377	Posted - 2015.04.17 03:03:00 - [20] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Like I honestly care at this point. If he wants me to play the game, he'll look at that as a sign of something seriously being wrong. He'll look at it as a sign of an inflated mu score, more than likely. It may taken some time, and a lot of tears and badposting, but your mu will level out and you'll be right as rain... Assuming you actually participate in matches ever. @Ripley_Riley

Aeon Amadi Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 9535	Posted - 2015.04.17 03:06:00 - [21] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Like I honestly care at this point. If he wants me to play the game, he'll look at that as a sign of something seriously being wrong. He'll look at it as a sign of an inflated mu score, more than likely. It may taken some time, and a lot of tears and badposting, but your mu will level out and you'll be right as rain... Assuming you actually participate in matches ever. Okay so you just ignored me when I said that I don't AFK and I actually play this game so you could flame war. Gotcha. Reported. Are you being Angry or Assertive?
Juno Tristan Obscure Reference 549	Posted - 2015.04.17 03:07:00 - [22] - Quote I'm not having much fun with the new matchmaking, what region are you in? I've taken refuge in FW, I recommend you do the same ADS Ramming Revenge! Plasma Cannon Rampage
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12263	Posted - 2015.04.17 03:07:00 - [23] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Eruditus 920 wrote: Self serving pointless thread. No one cares. Grow a pair and quit crying. At least try to stay on topic instead of just complaining about it The topic is you crying. And you should man up and just stop. And you should also grow a pair if possible. Did I miss anything? He's pointing out an issue with the matchmaker than effects him. He, and everyone should be able to find fun and well matched battles, but he can't. This ruins his enjoyment as a player. Seriously, WTF, how is "growing a pair" going to fix his battles being one-sided stomps? Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 9377	Posted - 2015.04.17 03:09:00 - [24] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Reported. Says the guy who advertises his AFK habits Isn't that like calling the cops because the guy you assaulted called you a dirty name? @Ripley_Riley
Aeon Amadi Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 9536	Posted - 2015.04.17 03:09:00 - [25] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Reported. Says the guy who advertises his AFK habits Isn't that like calling the cops because the guy you assaulted called you a dirty name? Why don't you actually go watch some videos I've posted, or maybe a livestream, or god forbid take a look at that screenshot gallery I posted in the OP before you start spouting off your BS about "actually participate in matches ever". You don't know me, dude. And given that you have all of 88 kills this week you're not exactly very active yourself considering that that was -consistent- with your stats in the Assault Conglomerate when I ran the thing (which I still have the spreadsheets for, btw). So don't come in here acting like you're god's gift to gaming.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 9378	Posted - 2015.04.17 03:12:00 - [26] - Quote At least I don't AFK, which is a big plus. When I am getting stomped I figure out ways to stay in the match and participate. @Ripley_Riley
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 9378	Posted - 2015.04.17 03:14:00 - [27] - Quote http://imgur.com/ApFqHwM One of my matches yesterday, and I played 4. Played at least that many earlier in the week. Not sure where you are getting 88 kills from, but it isn't accurate. @Ripley_Riley
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 785	Posted - 2015.04.17 03:14:00 - [28] - Quote I really don't get the matchmaking bitching lately. Of the last 20 matches I've played, 2 were not close. I still see AFKers...they are just afking and playing on their PS4s...
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12263	Posted - 2015.04.17 03:15:00 - [29] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Reported. Says the guy who advertises his AFK habits Isn't that like calling the cops because the guy you assaulted called you a dirty name? He's AFKinng because he has a constant issue with the game putting him in one-sided stomps. The AFKing is a symptom, so I don't see why you're so fixated on it. Going to use an analogy. It's like... say a corrupt and oppressive government has policies that leads to widespread poverty, and people turn to crime just to survive, and they speak out against the government, you would be the guy who says to them "yeah well you're a prostitute, you're breaking the law," and completely ignore why they do it to begin with. One-sided battles once in a while are to be expected, but constant nonstop stomps are bad, and if he experiences them, then he should talk about them. Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 9378	Posted - 2015.04.17 03:17:00 - [30] - Quote Talk about them, yes, absolutely. Post screen caps of the matches. Send emails to Rattati for review. Promote AFKing? No. Heeellll no. @Ripley_Riley

Aeon Amadi Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 9536	Posted - 2015.04.17 03:18:00 - [31] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: At least I don't AFK, which is a big plus. When I am getting stomped I figure out ways to stay in the match and participate. I got better things to do than to try and convince you, an insignificant speck on the map who I have never once seen in a match - let alone fought, that I actually play this game. Keeping trolling though, sure it'll get you out of that basement eventually.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 9378	Posted - 2015.04.17 03:18:00 - [32] - Quote Imp Smash wrote: I really don't get the matchmaking bitching lately. Of the last 20 matches I've played, 2 were not close. I still see AFKers...they are just afking and playing on their PS4s... Your my score is probably on par with your actual skill level then. @Ripley_Riley
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 9378	Posted - 2015.04.17 03:20:00 - [33] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: I got better things to do than to try and convince you, an insignificant speck on the map who I have never once seen in a match - let alone fought, that I actually play this game. Keeping trolling though, sure it'll get you out of that basement eventually. I saw you once. You red line sniped the entire time. Then, in my corp recruitment thread, you asked to join us if you could red line snipe I told you no. Aeon Amadi wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Nope. Decided that I'd like to plea guilty to my accusations and become what society has made me. La l+¡nea roja artillero... Then we must decline, as sniping is literally [Austrian-born German politician and the leader of the **** Party]. Then I look forward to seeing you on the battlefield while not being able to hit you with a railgun that phases into another plane of existence at precisely 450m! @Ripley_Riley
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12263	Posted - 2015.04.17 03:22:00 - [34] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Talk about them, yes, absolutely. Post screen caps of the matches. Send emails to Rattati for review. Promote AFKing? No. Heeellll no. I didn't see anything promoting AFKing, just that he was considering it for himself. Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
Aeon Amadi Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 9536	Posted - 2015.04.17 03:24:00 - [35] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: I got better things to do than to try and convince you, an insignificant speck on the map who I have never once seen in a match - let alone fought, that I actually play this game. Keeping trolling though, sure it'll get you out of that basement eventually. I saw you once. You red line sniped the entire time. Then, in my corp recruitment thread, you asked to join us if you could red line snipe I told you no. Must be nice to just be a push over who doesn't care what happens to their play-style or their game. Some of us don't have that luxury.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18305	Posted - 2015.04.17 03:26:00 - [36] - Quote I find anything that makes you rage this hard Aeon to be very, very entertaining. Change the world Chosen One! My energy for the Spirit Bomb you are about to unleash on CCP! GÇ£That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die.GÇ¥ -The Nameless City
Aeon Amadi Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 9536	Posted - 2015.04.17 03:29:00 - [37] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I find anything that makes you rage this hard Aeon to be very, very entertaining. Change the world Chosen One! My energy for the Spirit Bomb you are about to unleash on CCP! Et tu? Whatever. Thanks, bro. Really appreciate it that my genuine frustration gets you off. Glad I could be of service. Gemm ouincamv, bmayca, po hud reddehk dra tysbahanc uh ouin fyo uid uv dra MCC... I'm out. This community sucks worse than this game and I genuinely hope you guys get a really, REALLY terrible CPM 2.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 9378	Posted - 2015.04.17 03:29:00 - [38] - Quote I care. I just don't believe the approach you are taking is at all what Dust needs right now. You aren't an idiot, even if you are stubborn. You could probably put together some data for Rattati to review. Instead you choose to cross your arms and not play because you think it isn't fair. @Ripley_Riley
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18306	Posted - 2015.04.17 03:31:00 - [39] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: True Adamance wrote: I find anything that makes you rage this hard Aeon to be very, very entertaining. Change the world Chosen One! My energy for the Spirit Bomb you are about to unleash on CCP! Et tu? Whatever. Thanks, bro. Really appreciate it that my genuine frustration gets you off. Glad I could be of service. Gemm ouincamv, bmayca, po hud reddehk dra tysbahanc uh ouin fyo uid uv dra MCC... I'm out. This community sucks worse than this game and I genuinely hope you guys get a really, REALLY terrible CPM 2. Oh come on mate. Have a sense of humour. Y'know the Chosen One and Spirit Bomb crap was me referencing you apply for CPM2 right? More to the point how would you deal with CPM duty if you are this sensitive? GÇ£That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die.GÇ¥ -The Nameless City
The Modern Creature Incorruptibles 56	Posted - 2015.04.17 04:01:00 - [40] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: I got better things to do than to try and convince you, an insignificant speck on the map who I have never once seen in a match - let alone fought, that I actually play this game. Keeping trolling though, sure it'll get you out of that basement eventually. I saw you once. You red line sniped the entire time. Then, in my corp recruitment thread, you asked to join us if you could red line snipe I told you no. Must be nice to just be a push over who doesn't care what happens to their play-style or their game. Some of us don't have that luxury. There are no Luxury's for a free to play game. Attention passengers I will be your captain for the evening, I'm sure we won't run into any swarms but just inc- JUMP!!!

Ghost Kaisar Negative-Feedback 10907	Posted - 2015.04.17 04:54:00 - [41] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Seriously considering AFKing (screenshot is from my third match) this game from now on. See links below as to why. EDIT: This is my fourth match, just joined - haven't even spawned in yet. EDIT: Fifth match, this is how it was when I joined. Didn't get hardly jack for rewards because I couldn't find anything to kill in what little time I had.. Can't even AFK the match maker screws me so badly! EDIT: Match six, lost again for a total of 5/6 matches lost in two hours time. Here's the gallery showing the progression where I actually played because you guys kept whining buuuut didn't make a damn bit of difference. Maybe I should 'git gud'? Right? Saving this for when you want to run for CPM again. Currently listening to: Max Anarchy OST Old School Scout, watch out for the knives
jane stalin Ametat Security Amarr Empire 272	Posted - 2015.04.17 04:57:00 - [42] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: There is shame in AFK'ing though. Why play the game at all? Just quit and be done with it. I don't like people that wear orange clothing they should should be ashamed of themselves, They should quit making poor fashion choices and let someone else decide it for them.
DUST Fiend 16423	Posted - 2015.04.17 05:00:00 - [43] - Quote jane stalin wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: There is shame in AFK'ing though. Why play the game at all? Just quit and be done with it. I don't like people that wear orange clothing they should should be ashamed of themselves, They should quit making poor fashion choices and let someone else decide it for them. The difference is that someones fashion sense has no meaningful impact on your day to day life, unless you're severely mentally unstable. AFK on the other hand directly detracts from a teams overall chances at success, and thus contributes to ruining matches for others that could have otherwise been more enjoyable. Basically selfish pricks gonna be selfish pricks and they'll pop up no matter what you do. Damn pricks. *"My bitter is showing. I must retreat to the berry patch."* STUFF
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 10140	Posted - 2015.04.17 05:04:00 - [44] - Quote This game punishes those who are actually good at the game by putting them on hugely uneven teams or even worse, putting blueberries on my team so they can clone our team out because they are just cannon fodder for the two decent squads on the other squad. Thanks CCP, now no matter how good my squad performs in pubs our friendly blues will make sure they lose the match for us! 10/10 performance. The matchmaking works,if you are: A new player, a average player or a scrub at this game. If you are in veteran tier the matchmaking system has a tendency to ** you up. I never liked pubs before but jesus christ, I abhor them now. As long as 5/6 (83%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP**
jane stalin Ametat Security Amarr Empire 272	Posted - 2015.04.17 05:13:00 - [45] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: jane stalin wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: There is shame in AFK'ing though. Why play the game at all? Just quit and be done with it. I don't like people that wear orange clothing they should should be ashamed of themselves, They should quit making poor fashion choices and let someone else decide it for them. The difference is that someones fashion sense has no meaningful impact on your day to day life, unless you're severely mentally unstable. AFK on the other hand directly detracts from a teams overall chances at success, and thus contributes to ruining matches for others that could have otherwise been more enjoyable. Basically selfish pricks gonna be selfish pricks and they'll pop up no matter what you do. Damn pricks. But Increases the other team's chances of success. An really don't see how your point about enjoyment is a counter point to my example of wearing Orange, If someone likes wearing orange and it ruins other peoples enjoyment of fashion they should not be ashamed. From my perspective The blueberry who shot me in the face in a FW match and stole my dropship should not be ashamed but an actual thief should be ashamed, I do want to experience something different to normal life, I appreciate the fact you have a different view but expect me to accept your viewpoint as clearly correct, I just accept it because I feel like it.
Pocket Rocket Girl Psygod9 330	Posted - 2015.04.17 05:27:00 - [46] - Quote Because your a bad player? and only thinks of KDR? And can only run proto to get kills? ... or not? you know just saying. I dont even consder my self a good player but you know what i came here to shoot ** not hide like a twit and if i die coming at you just know im gonna keep trying lol because it i want to shoot at ** and get better at it ... you know just saying Moo? . . . Le Moo?
Gemini Cuspid 152	Posted - 2015.04.17 05:38:00 - [47] - Quote jane stalin wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: jane stalin wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: There is shame in AFK'ing though. Why play the game at all? Just quit and be done with it. I don't like people that wear orange clothing they should should be ashamed of themselves, They should quit making poor fashion choices and let someone else decide it for them. The difference is that someones fashion sense has no meaningful impact on your day to day life, unless you're severely mentally unstable. AFK on the other hand directly detracts from a teams overall chances at success, and thus contributes to ruining matches for others that could have otherwise been more enjoyable. Basically selfish pricks gonna be selfish pricks and they'll pop up no matter what you do. Damn pricks. But Increases the other team's chances of success. An really don't see how your point about enjoyment is a counter point to my example of wearing Orange, If someone likes wearing orange and it ruins other peoples enjoyment of fashion they should not be ashamed. From my perspective The blueberry who shot me in the face in a FW match and stole my dropship should not be ashamed but an actual thief should be ashamed, I do want to experience something different to normal life, I appreciate the fact you have a different view but expect me to accept your viewpoint as clearly correct, I just accept it because I feel like it. But that's, in general, the real problem with Dust as a shooter game. If we took an honest poll how many players would prefer to go 20-1 and lose the match vs. 20-20 to win it? How many players would rather "play it safe and accumulate SP/WP" doing it as a lone wolf vs. doing a team effort and sacrificing both in deaths and strategy to win the match? That's the oddity of the game that "winning" is such a loose concept; there's tons of tactics ppl utilize in order to benefit themselves. Should I be the player that charges in and goes 1-to-1 each and every time because everyone is kicking back? Worse yet spawning in when the match is "lost" and your being redlined has little to do with the "I can go BPO and take 1 out"; when you've been on both sides the team with a full squad would rather have everyone they're facing quit to end the battle vs. waiting for 1 player to spawn. That's really the big flaw with Dust, winning doesn't always equate to what our views are on winning: for some it's all about WP/SP and least amount of ISK or protecting their KDR stats. Everyone whose played at least over a half year knows this to be true as well; you as a player may want to win the battle but there's no guarantee everyone else on the squad shares that view. It's just really something the game doesn't encourage one direction or another. AFK'ing is usually followed by the same situation (team loosing). But that's only because, in the end, AFK is preferable to anything else that going in and shooting has to offer.
Swiss Forsaken X-0UT 3	Posted - 2015.04.17 06:01:00 - [48] - Quote This thread seems to have boiled down to "I think people who AFK are faggots" and "No they aren't, they're smart people who don't waste their ISK" This quit being an intellectual debate about matchmaking a long time ago. You're first mistake was admitting to afking, the next was conversing with a bunch of proto scrubs who I've personally seen camping a hilltop with a Viziam laser rifle and a Thale's, not doing anything productive for the team other than padding their k/d. Matchmaking sucks right now, we all know this but if you're going to sit in the mcc the entire time then why even play the game? Just quit playing like everyone else did.
Pocket Rocket Girl Psygod9 331	Posted - 2015.04.17 06:04:00 - [49] - Quote Swiss Forsaken wrote: This thread seems to have boiled down to "I think people who AFK are faggots" and "No they aren't, they're smart people who don't waste their ISK" This quit being an intellectual debate about matchmaking a long time ago. You're first mistake was admitting to afking, the next was conversing with a bunch of proto scrubs who I've personally seen camping a hilltop with a Viziam laser rifle and a Thale's, not doing anything productive for the team other than padding their k/d. Matchmaking sucks right now, we all know this but if you're going to sit in the mcc the entire time then why even play the game? Just quit playing like everyone else did. ^ Church Moo? . . . Le Moo?
CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 525	Posted - 2015.04.17 06:30:00 - [50] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: This game punishes those who are actually good at the game by putting them on hugely uneven teams or even worse, putting blueberries on my team so they can clone our team out because they are just cannon fodder for the two decent squads on the other squad. Thanks CCP, now no matter how good my squad performs in pubs our friendly blues will make sure they lose the match for us! 10/10 performance. The matchmaking works,if you are: A new player, a average player or a scrub at this game. If you are in veteran tier the matchmaking system has a tendency to **** you up. I never liked pubs before but jesus christ, I abhor them now. Sgt, you've touched on an interesting point, and I may gradually agree with you as I continue playing the matches. The new matchmaking system SEEMS to create a place for the general players to settle into a groove, see their leaderboard results rise five notches higher than they used to be, and repetitively enjoy their matches. But it MAY also create a rut instead of a groove, where those players who are able to face more challenging fights---or WANT to have more challenging fights,GÇª are going to find themselves stuck in teams that have the same "numbers" as you, but are rubbish when it comes to tactics and battle-sussing. Tactics and Sussing skills are the things Matchmaking can't measure---and yet are the things that make you wish you were in a more Vet-rich environment. I'm NOT a veteran-level player, just advanced, and already I'm starting to feel the "repetitive" outcomes of my matches. Mostly wins, yes, but even the wins are beginning to finish like clones of each other. Same place on the Board, same clone reserve spread, with few surprise moments anymore, and much fewer pitch battle standouts than before March. Is "balance" going to create matches that are too sterile and neutered for a portion of the community to get excitement from? Maybe FW matches shouldn't have the same matchmaking system, so players can "ascend" to FWs for rougher engagements (and PC of course should be zero-matchmaking). Sometimes I want to praise the matches where our side has 8 fewer players than theirs--at least it creates some interesting events sometimes. Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne... No story can have life without writers and publishers.

jane stalin Ametat Security Amarr Empire 272	Posted - 2015.04.17 06:55:00 - [51] - Quote CELESTA AUNGM wrote: Is "balance" going to create matches that are too sterile and neutered for a portion of the community to get excitement from? Maybe FW matches shouldn't have the same matchmaking system, so players can "ascend" to FWs for rougher engagements (and PC of course should be zero-matchmaking). Sometimes I want to praise the matches where our side has 8 fewer players than theirs--at least it creates some interesting events sometimes. As far as I can tell there is no matchmaking in FW at all . Before the match making changes I played caldari when I wanted to see good opponents and this still works, I would feel bad contributing to the never ending losses of the caldari because I suck at the game, however I do better than most of the derps on my team.
Summa Militum TotalAscendancy 380	Posted - 2015.04.17 07:10:00 - [52] - Quote Aeon Amadi is right. This new matchmaking sucks. I wont be AFKing though. I'm just going to complain on the forums until it is fixed.
Starlight Burner Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 209	Posted - 2015.04.17 08:01:00 - [53] - Quote I'm not going to throw myself into a losing situation. What's the point in doing that? Literally, think about. What's the benefit from throwing myself into a losing situation that I WILL NOT profit from or experience some form of enjoyment from? I get these matches too. Depending on how the enemy team is (Running full proto or squad(s) working together) if I'm going to Red Line snipe, AFK or straight up leave the battle. I play games for enjoyment, unless I'm playing a simulator such as ARMA. There is no enjoyment in throwing myself at a losing situation. Especially, when I do not get paid for attempting to win a fight. I / we play public matches for a source of isk income. Public matches is the only way a 1 - 6 player squad to make money. (Soon to be 4 if squad sizes gets reduced). Tell me right now, where I can profit from a match without wasting my time, peace at mind, or enjoyment of playing a video game? Until we get multiple different ways of efficient income of isk, I too will AFK or leave these matches. There's nothing wrong with him or anyone else going AFK for this Bullcrap. CCP Rattati, stop buffing things based on use! Unemployed, LFC Thank you CCP for DUST 514!
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 8135	Posted - 2015.04.17 08:07:00 - [54] - Quote The problem is the "top tier" players are in a sparse matchmaking queue. There's not a whole lot of people there. Honestly I have no sympathy given how adept you guys have been at setting up circumstances allowing easy wins and slaughter harvests. So unfortunately the curccurve broke and you are all facing the other people who do the exact same thing. The shoe is now on the other foot. You finally have your magical goodfite tier. Unfortunately there's not a lot of people in there. There's also a highly inflated number of stat padders, which contributes to making the games worse. That part I sympathize with, and now you know why I loathe risk Averse stat padding candyasses. But bluntly Aeon, you need to check your ego. You do not get to play primary redline sniper and get to claim that you're amazing. It doesn't work like that. The nerd in the assault suit that continually runs rings around my proto fatsuits and drops me consistently? He gets to claim badassery. Redline snipers just get hunted for sport and the pleasure of destroying thales. The redline is for risk aversion and I will forever dismiss any claim to "skill" by anyone who spends most of their time there. But if you're continually geting rekt because the other team outnumbers you? Blame the matchmaking tier. Congratulations. You're In the top tier. Not many are, and until we get a few more, the top tier is going to suck ass. AV
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 422	Posted - 2015.04.17 08:15:00 - [55] - Quote Here is a solution. STOP PLAYING. as long as we are still playing on the ps3 there is no reason for CCP to move this game forward. CPMs have already blabbed and stated that the game will not have any NEW development, so lets force their hand. Without players CCP will either have to abandon the project or move it forward to make money again(PS4 launch) Everything within the Unreal Engine carries over easily and now with 16x(ish) more RAM. With the extra RAM, there should never be a need for vRAM from the HDD and will remove any advantage that SSD players had. The only thing that would need to be tweaked would be the server connections.(god help us all) Just because your SPEEDTEST.net shows a good connection, doesn't mean you are not a lagging f*ck
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 23229	Posted - 2015.04.17 08:30:00 - [56] - Quote I don't give a damn about how high someone's mu score is inflated, 5v16 is disgraceful and cannot possibly be the product of a working matchmaker. Gallente Guide one day i may leave the basement but that day is not today
Jason Pearson Legio DXIV 4388	Posted - 2015.04.17 08:48:00 - [57] - Quote So DUST is still bad then? Good, good.
Aeon Amadi Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 9553	Posted - 2015.04.17 08:52:00 - [58] - Quote Came back here because CCP Rattati responded on Twitter chalking it up to 'outliers and anomalies': https://twitter.com/CCP_Rattati/status/588918027179204608 First of all, I'm not running for CPM 2 - I never was, I never will be. I don't care, I honestly hope that you guys vote like you did for CPM 1 and further dig your own graves (I won't be voting because I want no part in that hilarity, I just want to watch it all burn). Second of all, you're not impressing anyone with your moral statute of "I'm losing, better continue running out there and losing ISK or defaulting to my BPO gimmick". The match maker was designed to try and stop this from happening but, incidentally, it still is and I have screenshots galore showing this. Even the screenshots where I actually participated are ignored though because once you apparently show a single screenshot of you rubber-banding your controller, you're suddenly a life-long AFKer. Thirdly, (you can stop reading here because you think I'm a life-long AFKer and none of this will actually matter, just go to 'reply' or 'quote') there is a theory as to why this is happening and that it's Artificially Inflated MU/"True Skill" from running with teams and squads. Being as I'm in RnD/Negative Feedback, I have a tendency to roll with my bros ANON Illuminati, Insufficient Data, etc and we do a fantastic job because we've basically known each other since Closed Beta and we know each other's limits. When I run solo, how do you honestly think that affects my "True Skill" or "MU"? Do you think that **** just goes away because I'm suddenly not in a squad? Am I honestly expected to have to run squads/teams to effectively make the most out of what the match maker thinks I'm capable of by myself? Fourthly, Arkena nailed it on the head. Why the hell am I expected by you guys to tough it out, 'grow a pair', 'git gud' and fight against an entire team with only four other people on mine, three of which went so badly negative that I can't help but wonder what good they actually did there? Is this the sort of mentality you guys are honestly shooting for? That 5v16 is okay but you should never AFK; peer pressuring new and old players to metaphorically -JUMP OFF OF A BRIDGE?- Fifthly, to Breakin Stuff, dude - it is not my fault that I played the game normally up until this match maker conundrum. It is -NOT- my fault that I played out the matches that I was given, that Scotty thought it was in any way okay to put me and an entire squad of experienced veterans against a bunch of new players and it is -NOT- my fault that you or the rest of the community think that I "set it up" that way. I don't intentionally look at the team board and say, "Oh, they have a full squad on their team, let me back out and find something easier" - I stuck with it even though it was going to be a hard fight. Am I supposed to be punished, now, because of this crazy stereotype that all veterans are proto-stomping jackasses who leave the match at the first sign of competition? After I've -SHOWN YOU- the kind of "competition" it puts me into? Am I supposed to feel bad for doing the smart thing and not involving myself in an experience I -KNOW- will not be enjoyable? Like, what the [REDACTED] is wrong with you guys, seriously? Is it -my fault- that there are 'outliers and anomalies' in which I as a player am basically reserved to FW and PC to have even a remotely good experience? You say the match maker is working, I say it's not, I provide evidence that it's not, and I found a solution for myself that didn't involve tearing my own eyes out in frustration.... So the logical conclusion is to give me flak for it because you disagree with the practice rather than, I dunno, looking at what caused it. Seriously, why would I ever run for CPM with this kind of community? You guys suck
Jason Pearson Legio DXIV 4388	Posted - 2015.04.17 08:55:00 - [59] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: You guys suck Whoa, whoa, whoa..
Sleepy Shadow Qualified Scrub 312	Posted - 2015.04.17 09:07:00 - [60] - Quote My biggest issue is that I have been demoted to GÇ£fillerGÇ¥ status. Meaning that I only get a match if someone else leaves (._. ) I donGÇÖt like domination so I used to only queue to skirmish. Since the new matchmaker I had to add ambush so that I could have at least some matches that I start from the beginning. And itGÇÖs annoying to be thrown in mid match for two reasons, you generally get thrown in with the losing side as someone gave up and the rewards are absolutely pathetic. The first one I can live with but the second one should be much higher if you want me to stay in that red line match. Other than that I have enjoyed the new matchmaker. I found matches to be much more fun than before where both sides push hard and the matches are close. =ƒÿ¦

Aeon Amadi Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 9554	Posted - 2015.04.17 09:09:00 - [61] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: You guys suck Whoa, whoa, whoa.. Eh you deserve it for one reason or another, I'm sure Breakin Stuff wrote: But bluntly Aeon, you need to check your ego. You do not get to play primary redline sniper and get to claim that you're amazing. It doesn't work like that. The nerd in the assault suit that continually runs rings around my proto fatsuits and drops me consistently? He gets to claim badassery. Redline snipers just get hunted for sport and the pleasure of destroying thales. The redline is for risk aversion and I will forever dismiss any claim to "skill" by anyone who spends most of their time there. But if you're continually geting rekt because the other team outnumbers you? Blame the matchmaking tier. Congratulations. You're In the top tier. Not many are, and until we get a few more, the top tier is going to suck ass. But seriously, Breakin, if you're assuming I do what I say I do on the forums you really don't know me and can't judge. Go watch my youtube channel or my livestream and see what I'm like - hell of a lot different than what I complain about on the forums (sniper rifles suck, why would I redline camp with a weapon that may or may not even hit it's target..?) Educate yourself.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 8136	Posted - 2015.04.17 09:44:00 - [62] - Quote Actually I think you conflating my lack of sympathy with blaming you for what IS a flaw in the system is hilarious. I don't actually think you are a stat padder. I said the top tier is choked off with them. When I am directing a statement at YOU I say you. My only problem with your complaint is the sniper/redline thing. 90% of my comments were directed as explanation referencing the re*ards who DO stat pad and crow about it. If you were JUST a stat padding moron NF woukd have ejected your ass. I pick on the tryhards but I know which ones are actual dumbasses. Try to be a little less overly defensive. My lack of sympathy is circumstantial and not directed at your actions. But if it makes you feel better I can go full goon and troll the bejeezuz out of you deliberately. Only the matchmaking tier portion is really relevant to your topic. But you're still sniper scum. AV
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 8136	Posted - 2015.04.17 09:46:00 - [63] - Quote A better way to say it would be the top tier is starved for enough players. The bracket I'm in performs beautifully. AV
DERP33 Glitched Connection 47	Posted - 2015.04.17 09:53:00 - [64] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Seriously considering AFKing (screenshot is from my third match) this game from now on. See links below as to why. EDIT: This is my fourth match, just joined - haven't even spawned in yet. EDIT: Fifth match, this is how it was when I joined. Didn't get hardly jack for rewards because I couldn't find anything to kill in what little time I had.. Can't even AFK the match maker screws me so badly! EDIT: Match six, lost again for a total of 5/6 matches lost in two hours time. Here's the gallery showing the progression where I actually played because you guys kept whining buuuut didn't make a damn bit of difference. Maybe I should 'git gud'? Right? You are just part of the problem. LOL. The matchmaker thinks your good, if you are paired up against other good players it's a compliment lol. According to you though, the matchmaker is wrong, and you are truly bad.
Aeon Amadi Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 9554	Posted - 2015.04.17 09:54:00 - [65] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: A better way to say it would be the top tier is starved for enough players. The bracket I'm in performs beautifully. I apparently waited so long (got scotty'd for duration twice) that it threw me into a lower tier bracket. Results were about the same because the game still thinks I'm some kind of god, apparently. Here's the gallery. http://postimg.org/gallery/16daq2hhu/
Aeon Amadi Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 9554	Posted - 2015.04.17 09:58:00 - [66] - Quote DERP33 wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Seriously considering AFKing (screenshot is from my third match) this game from now on. See links below as to why. EDIT: This is my fourth match, just joined - haven't even spawned in yet. EDIT: Fifth match, this is how it was when I joined. Didn't get hardly jack for rewards because I couldn't find anything to kill in what little time I had.. Can't even AFK the match maker screws me so badly! EDIT: Match six, lost again for a total of 5/6 matches lost in two hours time. Here's the gallery showing the progression where I actually played because you guys kept whining buuuut didn't make a damn bit of difference. Maybe I should 'git gud'? Right? You are just part of the problem. LOL. The matchmaker thinks your good, if you are paired up against other good players it's a compliment lol. According to you though, the matchmaker is wrong, and you are truly bad. Your name is startlingly appropriate for that comment.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 8136	Posted - 2015.04.17 10:04:00 - [67] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Breakin Stuff wrote: A better way to say it would be the top tier is starved for enough players. The bracket I'm in performs beautifully. I apparently waited so long (got scotty'd for duration twice) that it threw me into a lower tier bracket. Results were about the same because the game still thinks I'm some kind of god, apparently. Here's the gallery. http://postimg.org/gallery/16daq2hhu/ Unfortunately my bullsht theory can't be proven until CCP adds a Merc "quality rating" so we can see what approximate bracket we fit into. Nothing can. But I can confirm that some higher tier players can get matches faster (with more reliability) by having a squad leader who's closer to my bracket. Almost all of the worst complaints seem to come from the high bracket players. Most of whom are confirmed stat padders. So it could be a lot of things. There's also the shtshow matchmakong anomalies that rattati is tracking. I have a feelong that the top and bottom are the break points. AV
Protected Void Nos Nothi 410	Posted - 2015.04.17 10:24:00 - [68] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: It's times like these when I wonder if the matchmaking is broken or if our playerbase are a bunch of risk averse pansies... Play your matches, lose and yeah maybe even get stomped. Your mu score will adjust accordingly and place you in matches with players more your skill level. There's no shame in it. There is shame in AFK'ing though. Why play the game at all? Just quit and be done with it. Maybe because I only had two hours to play the game before I have to get ready for work and I at least want to enjoy them or not waste my [REDACTED] time. That last match was the final straw for me. Five guys against an entire team and I'm somehow expected to actually fight? To actually compete against that? But if I AFK it's Shameful? No. AFKing isn't "risk-averse" it's not being an idiot and putting yourself in a stupid situation when you're just going to lose anyway. I actually respect players who AFK in those kind of matches more than people who just throw themselves at the enemy desperately hoping to somehow turn it around in some 300-esque BS because they're so terrified of how the community views AFKing. What I do in most cases when my team is severly outnumbered: Fight anyway, pick off stragglers and hack stuff behind their back. Even in a 16-to-1 scenario, they can't be everywhere. Annoy them. Practise stealth and evasion. Earn their respect. I rarely go negative KDR in these matches, and the ISK payout is good even if you only manage to get a little bit of WP. And no, I don't consider myself a particularly good player. I'm somewhere between intermediate+ and decent. Works for me, and I don't have to torture myself being annoyed and impatient.
Zepod Titans of Phoenix RUST415 173	Posted - 2015.04.17 11:40:00 - [69] - Quote As opposed to just AFKing and doing nothing, why not play a different game? You may not like what I said, but it's true. It might anger or offend you, but it's still true.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 9409	Posted - 2015.04.17 12:00:00 - [70] - Quote Just wanting to point this point, since we now have a devblog discussing matchmaking improvements. Devblog wrote: To be absolutely certain, we have taken the steps to correlate this value with a number of skill ratios, such as KDR (Kill Death Ratio) and WP/D (War Points per Death Ratio), and finally W/L (Win Loss Ratio) and are certain of the systemGÇÖs merit. KDR - Can be increased to absurd levels by redline sniping. WP/D - Keeping your death count low by avoiding combat via sniping would also inflate this ratio... W/L - In this post you state that you ran squads with RnD/Negative Feedback folks which may have upped this ratio too. By sniping the ratio may have leveled out. For argument sake, I'll pretend you are "average" in this particular ratio. That's 2 out of 3 indicators of player skill being artificially increased. Your mu score is controlled by your actions. Perhaps one of the reasons some players are not experiencing issues with the matchmaking improvements and other are not is due to their predilection for low risk, high reward playstyles. If that is the case, then AFK'ing will not solve your problem, Aeon. It might lower your W/L ratio, but your KDR and WP/D stay the same. You will have to fit a non-sniper rifle and get into the fight. Pick up some newer players and squad with them. Teach them what you know and be 100% ready to die a bunch. Initially the matches may be stomps, but as your mu score adjusts itself you will be put into more and more balanced matches. That is my attempt at not-in-any-way-trolling-completely-sincere advice. Good luck and godspeed. @Ripley_Riley

Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 8138	Posted - 2015.04.17 12:02:00 - [71] - Quote Ripley is 100% correct. AV
olssam 62 Prima Gallicus 171	Posted - 2015.04.17 12:05:00 - [72] - Quote Nearly 30 minutes of waiting Channel Youtube - Dust 514 FR - Olssam62
cris bleu Carbon 7 125	Posted - 2015.04.17 12:12:00 - [73] - Quote Aeon, "...some of us actually play this game to have fun..." Starlight, "I play games for enjoyment" Please tell me how much fun it is to AFK.
shaman oga Dead Man's Game 4419	Posted - 2015.04.17 12:12:00 - [74] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: So DUST is still bad then? Good, good. Got to find the conjurer quickly before he can open new portals from other plans and conjure old players Shifted in time, your tomorrow, my today.
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK Rise Of Legion. 3378	Posted - 2015.04.17 13:51:00 - [75] - Quote I dont personally get too many games that are nearly over that's not to say that they dont still happen because they do. If you keep getting a lot of nearly done game then that IS a big problem that CCP should definitely look into. Aeon mate this is how matches have been for me playing solo for a lot longer than just this last matchmaker hotfix. The way I see it is, if my team is really crappy, it means I will knock the WP figure up nice and high and bag a lot of isk n SP. (I lose more isk to achieve that however..... would this be your experience too?) By the way man, next time your online hit me up, I will run some squads so you can see the kind of matches I get into on the EU servers. Some of them can be absolutely great fun brawlfests, others are massive stomps. Vitantur Nothus wrote: Why hide a solution under frothy pile of derpa? SCV Ready!
Aeon Amadi Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 9556	Posted - 2015.04.17 17:10:00 - [76] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Just wanting to point this point, since we now have a devblog discussing matchmaking improvements. Devblog wrote: To be absolutely certain, we have taken the steps to correlate this value with a number of skill ratios, such as KDR (Kill Death Ratio) and WP/D (War Points per Death Ratio), and finally W/L (Win Loss Ratio) and are certain of the systemGÇÖs merit. KDR - Can be increased to absurd levels by redline sniping. WP/D - Keeping your death count low by avoiding combat via sniping would also inflate this ratio... W/L - In this post you state that you ran squads with RnD/Negative Feedback folks which may have upped this ratio too. By sniping the ratio may have leveled out. For argument sake, I'll pretend you are "average" in this particular ratio. That's 2 out of 3 indicators of player skill being artificially increased. Your mu score is controlled by your actions. Perhaps one of the reasons some players are experiencing issues with the matchmaking improvements while others are not is due to their predilection for low risk, high reward playstyles. If that is the case, then AFK'ing will not solve your problem, Aeon. It might lower your W/L ratio, but your KDR and WP/D will stay the same. You will have to fit a non-sniper rifle and get into the fight. Pick up some newer players and squad with them. Teach them what you know and be 100% ready to die a bunch. Initially the matches may be stomps, but as your mu score adjusts itself you will be put into more and more balanced matches. That is my attempt at not-in-any-way-trolling-completely-sincere advice. Good luck and godspeed. Yeah, you are trolling because you wont get off the ******* sniper rifle redline AFK bs dude. Again, watch my youtube videos. Watch my stream for once in your life. Read something I post other then those cherry picked threads. Talk to people who I roll with. Theyll tell you a completely different story and maybe, just maybe, you can look at this objectively.
Aeon Amadi Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 9556	Posted - 2015.04.17 17:12:00 - [77] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: I dont personally get too many games that are nearly over that's not to say that they dont still happen because they do. If you keep getting a lot of nearly done game then that IS a big problem that CCP should definitely look into. Aeon mate this is how matches have been for me playing solo for a lot longer than just this last matchmaker hotfix. The way I see it is, if my team is really crappy, it means I will knock the WP figure up nice and high and bag a lot of isk n SP. (I lose more isk to achieve that however..... would this be your experience too?) By the way man, next time your online hit me up, I will run some squads so you can see the kind of matches I get into on the EU servers. Some of them can be absolutely great fun brawlfests, others are massive stomps. Thats just it though, dawg, a player shouldnt have to run a squad to get baseline enjoyment out of this game. Its a fundamental problem, I feel.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 9418	Posted - 2015.04.17 17:24:00 - [78] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Yeah, you are trolling because you wont get off the ******* sniper rifle redline AFK bs dude. Again, watch my youtube videos. Watch my stream for once in your life. Read something I post other then those cherry picked threads. Talk to people who I roll with. They'll tell you a completely different story and maybe, just maybe, you can look at this objectively. If you are being pitted against entire squads then your mu score is high. The exact reason for it being high is debatable, but it is. This means you fall into the upper echelon of players in terms of skill. In most online games you would be demographic seeking "end game content". For Dust 514, the closest thing we have to end game content is FW and PC. If you completely object to what I am proposing you do in public contacts then migrate to FW and PC. I'm sure you know PC does not have matchmaking. According to CCP AquarHEAD in this thread, you will not have to worry about lopsided teams in FW as it attempts to gather a full 16v16 for every match when possible. TL;DR - Leave public contracts to the low and mid-tier players, like me. Graduate to the more competitive gamemodes such as FW and PC. @Ripley_Riley
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1459	Posted - 2015.04.17 18:07:00 - [79] - Quote All the other nonsense in this thread aside, Matchmaking is completely ****** IMO. I can't stand pubs since the changes. Hell i'm not sure when I last fought a 16 vs 16 battle in a pub. I think i'm playing in off peak times so maybe that makes it more messed up but i'll come into a battle with one other guy in squad and we get put on the team with 13 guys making it 15 and the other side has 9 guys. Guess who won? I am CONSTANTLY getting a big imbalance in # of players on each side which makes me 99.99% accurate in guessing who is going to win a battle before i even look at who's on each side, all you need to look at is head count on each side. Overlord of Broman
Ghost Kaisar Negative-Feedback 10911	Posted - 2015.04.17 18:15:00 - [80] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: DERP33 wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Seriously considering AFKing (screenshot is from my third match) this game from now on. See links below as to why. EDIT: This is my fourth match, just joined - haven't even spawned in yet. EDIT: Fifth match, this is how it was when I joined. Didn't get hardly jack for rewards because I couldn't find anything to kill in what little time I had.. Can't even AFK the match maker screws me so badly! EDIT: Match six, lost again for a total of 5/6 matches lost in two hours time. Here's the gallery showing the progression where I actually played because you guys kept whining buuuut didn't make a damn bit of difference. Maybe I should 'git gud'? Right? You are just part of the problem. LOL. The matchmaker thinks your good, if you are paired up against other good players it's a compliment lol. According to you though, the matchmaker is wrong, and you are truly bad. Your name is startlingly appropriate for that comment. Does the term "Ad Hominem" mean anything to you? Currently listening to: Max Anarchy OST Old School Scout, watch out for the knives

Aeon Amadi Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 9559	Posted - 2015.04.17 18:35:00 - [81] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: DERP33 wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Seriously considering AFKing (screenshot is from my third match) this game from now on. See links below as to why. EDIT: This is my fourth match, just joined - haven't even spawned in yet. EDIT: Fifth match, this is how it was when I joined. Didn't get hardly jack for rewards because I couldn't find anything to kill in what little time I had.. Can't even AFK the match maker screws me so badly! EDIT: Match six, lost again for a total of 5/6 matches lost in two hours time. Here's the gallery showing the progression where I actually played because you guys kept whining buuuut didn't make a damn bit of difference. Maybe I should 'git gud'? Right? You are just part of the problem. LOL. The matchmaker thinks your good, if you are paired up against other good players it's a compliment lol. According to you though, the matchmaker is wrong, and you are truly bad. Your name is startlingly appropriate for that comment. Does the term "Ad Hominem" mean anything to you? Does the word 'apathy' mean anything to you?
Dreis ShadowWeaver 0uter.Heaven Back and Forth 2776	Posted - 2015.04.17 19:05:00 - [82] - Quote Were you solo, Aeon? You will get put in already-started matches more often if you're solo. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3 I'm a monster
Slave of MORTE 378	Posted - 2015.04.17 19:12:00 - [83] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: It's times like these when I wonder if the matchmaking is broken or if our playerbase are a bunch of risk averse pansies... Play your matches, lose and yeah maybe even get stomped. Your mu score will adjust accordingly and place you in matches with players more your skill level. There's no shame in it. There is shame in AFK'ing though. Why play the game at all? Just quit and be done with it. If pub payouts were not such utter garbage maybe just maybe people would try hard I'm her slave because amarrians are the best in the sheets #stamina
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 1236	Posted - 2015.04.17 22:09:00 - [84] - Quote I am about as anti the new matchmaking system as it gets, and suffer from many of the same problems you do. And while I've made posts bitching about it I still play damn near every match I am thrown into. Man the F up. Your matchmaking sucked the last time and it still sucks this time.
Aeon Amadi Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 9559	Posted - 2015.04.17 22:53:00 - [85] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: I am about as anti the new matchmaking system as it gets, and suffer from many of the same problems you do. And while I've made posts bitching about it I didn't even bother reading past the title and instantly assumed that you're just a life-long AFK scrub lord. Fixed that for you.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 9506	Posted - 2015.04.18 00:44:00 - [86] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: DERP33 wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Seriously considering AFKing (screenshot is from my third match) this game from now on. See links below as to why. EDIT: This is my fourth match, just joined - haven't even spawned in yet. EDIT: Fifth match, this is how it was when I joined. Didn't get hardly jack for rewards because I couldn't find anything to kill in what little time I had.. Can't even AFK the match maker screws me so badly! EDIT: Match six, lost again for a total of 5/6 matches lost in two hours time. Here's the gallery showing the progression where I actually played because you guys kept whining buuuut didn't make a damn bit of difference. Maybe I should 'git gud'? Right? You are just part of the problem. LOL. The matchmaker thinks your good, if you are paired up against other good players it's a compliment lol. According to you though, the matchmaker is wrong, and you are truly bad. Your name is startlingly appropriate for that comment. Does the term "Ad Hominem" mean anything to you? Does the word 'apathy' mean anything to you? If you were apathetic, you wouldn't make a whole thread on the subject, then attack the people in it that didn't agree with you. Or keep playing the game if you were frustrated. And you created text walls the Amarr just got off on. I do thank you for the entertainment however. There was much to be had. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 1238	Posted - 2015.04.18 01:16:00 - [87] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Henchmen21 wrote: I am about as anti the new matchmaking system as it gets, and suffer from many of the same problems you do. And while I've made posts bitching about it I didn't even bother reading past the title and instantly assumed that you're just a life-long AFK scrub lord. Fixed that for you. Actually I read your post, looked at your pictures than read every comment and came to a reasoned conclusion that you need to man the F up. If your solution to what you've encountered since the start of the new matchmaker is to cower in the corner AFKing what other conclusion am I supposed to arrive at? I've ran solo 99% of my time playing and suffered though stomps during every iteration CCP has thrown at us, yet I still suit up and go do what damage I can assuming I can even spawn in before its over. I am fairly certain that my MU overestimates my prowess but I've done that on my own with no help from squads so I'll take it as a compliment even when I am facing proto squads time and again. Fixed your assumption for you. Your matchmaking sucked the last time and it still sucks this time.
DozersMouse XIII Nana-Korobi Ya-Oki 1033	Posted - 2015.04.18 01:43:00 - [88] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Seriously considering AFKing (screenshot is from my third match) this game from now on. See links below as to why. EDIT: This is my fourth match, just joined - haven't even spawned in yet. EDIT: Fifth match, this is how it was when I joined. Didn't get hardly jack for rewards because I couldn't find anything to kill in what little time I had.. Can't even AFK the match maker screws me so badly! EDIT: Match six, lost again for a total of 5/6 matches lost in two hours time. Here's the gallery showing the progression where I actually played because you guys kept whining buuuut didn't make a damn bit of difference. Maybe I should 'git gud'? Right? EDIT: About five and a half hours later I gave it another go and this was the result: http://postimg.org/gallery/16daq2hhu/ I was Scotty'd twice for duration queuing for just Skirmish and after ten minutes it threw me into this Dom match, presumably in a lower Tier bracket for waiting so long, and the result was largely the same despite my actually trying. Still think it's my fault guys? Still trolling? Kay. matchmaking is broke for me Shotgun me once, shame on me Shotgun me twice, scans on you
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 799	Posted - 2015.04.20 00:50:00 - [89] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Imp Smash wrote: I really don't get the matchmaking bitching lately. Of the last 20 matches I've played, 2 were not close. I still see AFKers...they are just afking and playing on their PS4s... Your my score is probably on par with your actual skill level then. I don't understand how to take that honestly.. My My score?


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