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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.17 01:39:00 -
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Kay, so, since I've had a multi-week long losing streak; If I lose this next match (hate this match maker btw) I'm just going to start AFKing.
Anyone have some good, cheap fits to do this with? Thinking about running a BPO Logi and throwing out nanohives/dropuplinks, screw around until I die once so I can break the WP Threshold and then AFK in the MCC. Definitely looking forward to any suggestions on the best way to AFK.
BTW, livestreaming right now so if anyone wants to see how that goes over, feel free to watch.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.17 01:49:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:Self serving pointless thread.
No one cares.
Grow a pair and quit crying.
At least try to stay on topic instead of just complaining about it
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.17 01:58:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Kay, so, since I've had a multi-week long losing streak; If I lose this next match (hate this match maker btw) I'm just going to start AFKing. isn't that just adding to the problem? Not for him. "I got mine" mentality
Pretty much. Third match I've lost today.
Here's what I thought about it.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.17 02:08:00 -
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jane stalin wrote:I honestly don't see the problem with AFKing , I stop doing it because of Whiny bitches but just ignore them.
To get 150 WP quickly I would use a shotgun scout The speed lets you hack some yellow installations pick a good spot for an uplink and maybe get some kills,
Oh snap, is it only 150? I thought it was 250. Hah.
Well, that makes this a lot easier. Thanks for the advice.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.17 02:17:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Suffering from Artificial Value Inflation?
Well, that's your fault. If you farm up WP, but don't really add anything to the winning effort, the matchmaker doesn't know this. It says "good player, this will balance these bad player" and puts you on a team. If you did supply as much value to the field as you farm, you'd be in more winning battles.
Alternatively, it's putting me in there because I'm a half decent player who actually contributes a lot to the team in any normal case but because it thinks I'm some kind of super hero it keeps throwing me in matches to make up the difference, thereby screwing me over because I'm a veteran player.
Yanno since I didn't -start- AFKing until today.
But yanno your assumption might be correct too, what with the fact I keep getting thrown in already over matches and getting 0 WP and all because the match ends before I can even do anything.
Much contribution. Such enthralling. Wow.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.17 02:46:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:It's times like these when I wonder if the matchmaking is broken or if our playerbase are a bunch of risk averse pansies...
Play your matches, lose and yeah maybe even get stomped. Your mu score will adjust accordingly and place you in matches with players more your skill level. There's no shame in it.
There is shame in AFK'ing though. Why play the game at all? Just quit and be done with it.
Maybe because I only had two hours to play the game before I have to get ready for work and I at least want to enjoy them or not waste my [REDACTED] time.
That last match was the final straw for me. Five guys against an entire team and I'm somehow expected to actually fight? To actually compete against that? But if I AFK it's Shameful?
No. AFKing isn't "risk-averse" it's not being an idiot and putting yourself in a stupid situation when you're just going to lose anyway. I actually respect players who AFK in those kind of matches more than people who just throw themselves at the enemy desperately hoping to somehow turn it around in some 300-esque BS because they're so terrified of how the community views AFKing.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.17 02:59:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Fighting in cheap/free fittings > jerking off in the MCC
Sometimes you are the lion. Sometimes you are the gazelle. If you happen to spawn in as a gazelle be sure to kill at least a few lions before they murder you.
Oh hell, I'm wasting my time here aren't I? You are going to sit in a puddle of your own piddle in the red line ground spawn regardless of what I say here.
I didn't start AFKing until today because I'm tired of losing match after match after match - this isn't something I do on the regular and if you actually knew who I was or what I do in game, you'd know that, but since you don't you're just going assume a bunch of BS because of a thread title and some limited evidence that you would not have had unless you came here to whine about something you clearly have no clue about.
This isn't a [REDACTED] lion/gazelle thing this is getting thrown into
these kinds
of matches
on the
regular
Sorry, but some of us actually play this game to have fun, not get their **** kicked into our chest cavities like it's our day job. If you care to actually give some constructive criticism instead of being a douche about it, then maybe I will listen, but until then, yes, you are wasting your time.
In what [REDACTED] world would this -EVER- be fun? Why shouldn't I AFK? Why should I be forced to play a game with half-way over matches I have no control over, consistently am going to lose because the match maker things I'm super man, and am always [REDACTED] out numbered? What, do you think this is Dark Souls 514???? Do you think I am some kind of masochist who gets some sexual appeal out of constantly getting screwed over by Scotty?
Get out of here, dude. You're just a troll.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.17 03:01:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:It isn't smart to post a picture of how you jury rigged your controller to AFK. Pretty certain CCP frowns on that in a big way. Rattati hates it, if I can recall.
Like I honestly care at this point. If he wants me to play the game, he'll look at that as a sign of something seriously being wrong. EDIT: Hell, if he really cared, he'd take a look at my track record of activity and notice the sharp and brutal decline since Uprising 1.7
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.17 03:03:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:
My constructive criticism is to play the game and not AFK.
Don't act like that's some sort of moral high ground, because it's not.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.17 03:06:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Like I honestly care at this point. If he wants me to play the game, he'll look at that as a sign of something seriously being wrong. He'll look at it as a sign of an inflated mu score, more than likely. It may taken some time, and a lot of tears and badposting, but your mu will level out and you'll be right as rain... Assuming you actually participate in matches ever.
Okay so you just ignored me when I said that I don't AFK and I actually play this game so you could flame war. Gotcha.
Reported.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.17 03:09:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Reported. Says the guy who advertises his AFK habits Isn't that like calling the cops because the guy you assaulted called you a dirty name?
Why don't you actually go watch some videos I've posted, or maybe a livestream, or god forbid take a look at that screenshot gallery I posted in the OP before you start spouting off your BS about "actually participate in matches ever".
You don't know me, dude. And given that you have all of 88 kills this week you're not exactly very active yourself considering that that was -consistent- with your stats in the Assault Conglomerate when I ran the thing (which I still have the spreadsheets for, btw). So don't come in here acting like you're god's gift to gaming. |
Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.17 03:18:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:At least I don't AFK, which is a big plus. When I am getting stomped I figure out ways to stay in the match and participate.
I got better things to do than to try and convince you, an insignificant speck on the map who I have never once seen in a match - let alone fought, that I actually play this game.
Keeping trolling though, sure it'll get you out of that basement eventually. |
Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.17 03:24:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:I got better things to do than to try and convince you, an insignificant speck on the map who I have never once seen in a match - let alone fought, that I actually play this game.
Keeping trolling though, sure it'll get you out of that basement eventually. I saw you once. You red line sniped the entire time. Then, in my corp recruitment thread, you asked to join us if you could red line snipe I told you no.
Must be nice to just be a push over who doesn't care what happens to their play-style or their game. Some of us don't have that luxury. |
Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.17 03:29:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:I find anything that makes you rage this hard Aeon to be very, very entertaining.
Change the world Chosen One! My energy for the Spirit Bomb you are about to unleash on CCP!
Et tu? Whatever. Thanks, bro. Really appreciate it that my genuine frustration gets you off. Glad I could be of service.
Gemm ouincamv, bmayca, po hud reddehk dra tysbahanc uh ouin fyo uid uv dra MCC...
I'm out. This community sucks worse than this game and I genuinely hope you guys get a really, REALLY terrible CPM 2. |
Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.17 08:52:00 -
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Came back here because CCP Rattati responded on Twitter chalking it up to 'outliers and anomalies': https://twitter.com/CCP_Rattati/status/588918027179204608
First of all, I'm not running for CPM 2 - I never was, I never will be. I don't care, I honestly hope that you guys vote like you did for CPM 1 and further dig your own graves (I won't be voting because I want no part in that hilarity, I just want to watch it all burn).
Second of all, you're not impressing anyone with your moral statute of "I'm losing, better continue running out there and losing ISK or defaulting to my BPO gimmick". The match maker was designed to try and stop this from happening but, incidentally, it still is and I have screenshots galore showing this. Even the screenshots where I actually participated are ignored though because once you apparently show a single screenshot of you rubber-banding your controller, you're suddenly a life-long AFKer.
Thirdly, (you can stop reading here because you think I'm a life-long AFKer and none of this will actually matter, just go to 'reply' or 'quote') there is a theory as to why this is happening and that it's Artificially Inflated MU/"True Skill" from running with teams and squads. Being as I'm in RnD/Negative Feedback, I have a tendency to roll with my bros ANON Illuminati, Insufficient Data, etc and we do a fantastic job because we've basically known each other since Closed Beta and we know each other's limits.
When I run solo, how do you honestly think that affects my "True Skill" or "MU"? Do you think that **** just goes away because I'm suddenly not in a squad? Am I honestly expected to have to run squads/teams to effectively make the most out of what the match maker thinks I'm capable of by myself?
Fourthly, Arkena nailed it on the head. Why the hell am I expected by you guys to tough it out, 'grow a pair', 'git gud' and fight against an entire team with only four other people on mine, three of which went so badly negative that I can't help but wonder what good they actually did there? Is this the sort of mentality you guys are honestly shooting for? That 5v16 is okay but you should never AFK; peer pressuring new and old players to metaphorically -JUMP OFF OF A BRIDGE?-
Fifthly, to Breakin Stuff, dude - it is not my fault that I played the game normally up until this match maker conundrum. It is -NOT- my fault that I played out the matches that I was given, that Scotty thought it was in any way okay to put me and an entire squad of experienced veterans against a bunch of new players and it is -NOT- my fault that you or the rest of the community think that I "set it up" that way. I don't intentionally look at the team board and say, "Oh, they have a full squad on their team, let me back out and find something easier" - I stuck with it even though it was going to be a hard fight.
Am I supposed to be punished, now, because of this crazy stereotype that all veterans are proto-stomping jackasses who leave the match at the first sign of competition? After I've -SHOWN YOU- the kind of "competition" it puts me into? Am I supposed to feel bad for doing the smart thing and not involving myself in an experience I -KNOW- will not be enjoyable? Like, what the [REDACTED] is wrong with you guys, seriously?
Is it -my fault- that there are 'outliers and anomalies' in which I as a player am basically reserved to FW and PC to have even a remotely good experience? You say the match maker is working, I say it's not, I provide evidence that it's not, and I found a solution for myself that didn't involve tearing my own eyes out in frustration.... So the logical conclusion is to give me flak for it because you disagree with the practice rather than, I dunno, looking at what caused it.
Seriously, why would I ever run for CPM with this kind of community? You guys suck |
Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.17 09:09:00 -
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Eh you deserve it for one reason or another, I'm sure
Breakin Stuff wrote: But bluntly Aeon, you need to check your ego. You do not get to play primary redline sniper and get to claim that you're amazing. It doesn't work like that. The nerd in the assault suit that continually runs rings around my proto fatsuits and drops me consistently?
He gets to claim badassery.
Redline snipers just get hunted for sport and the pleasure of destroying thales. The redline is for risk aversion and I will forever dismiss any claim to "skill" by anyone who spends most of their time there.
But if you're continually geting rekt because the other team outnumbers you? Blame the matchmaking tier.
Congratulations. You're In the top tier. Not many are, and until we get a few more, the top tier is going to suck ass.
But seriously, Breakin, if you're assuming I do what I say I do on the forums you really don't know me and can't judge. Go watch my youtube channel or my livestream and see what I'm like - hell of a lot different than what I complain about on the forums (sniper rifles suck, why would I redline camp with a weapon that may or may not even hit it's target..?)
Educate yourself.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.17 09:54:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:A better way to say it would be the top tier is starved for enough players. The bracket I'm in performs beautifully.
I apparently waited so long (got scotty'd for duration twice) that it threw me into a lower tier bracket.
Results were about the same because the game still thinks I'm some kind of god, apparently.
Here's the gallery.
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Posted - 2015.04.17 09:58:00 -
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DERP33 wrote:You are just part of the problem. LOL. The matchmaker thinks your good, if you are paired up against other good players it's a compliment lol. According to you though, the matchmaker is wrong, and you are truly bad.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.17 17:10:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Just wanting to point this point, since we now have a devblog discussing matchmaking improvements. Devblog wrote:To be absolutely certain, we have taken the steps to correlate this value with a number of skill ratios, such as KDR (Kill Death Ratio) and WP/D (War Points per Death Ratio), and finally W/L (Win Loss Ratio) and are certain of the systemGÇÖs merit. KDR - Can be increased to absurd levels by redline sniping. WP/D - Keeping your death count low by avoiding combat via sniping would also inflate this ratio... W/L - In this post you state that you ran squads with RnD/Negative Feedback folks which may have upped this ratio too. By sniping the ratio may have leveled out. For argument sake, I'll pretend you are "average" in this particular ratio. That's 2 out of 3 indicators of player skill being artificially increased. Your mu score is controlled by your actions. Perhaps one of the reasons some players are experiencing issues with the matchmaking improvements while others are not is due to their predilection for low risk, high reward playstyles. If that is the case, then AFK'ing will not solve your problem, Aeon. It might lower your W/L ratio, but your KDR and WP/D will stay the same. You will have to fit a non-sniper rifle and get into the fight. Pick up some newer players and squad with them. Teach them what you know and be 100% ready to die a bunch. Initially the matches may be stomps, but as your mu score adjusts itself you will be put into more and more balanced matches. That is my attempt at not-in-any-way-trolling-completely-sincere advice. Good luck and godspeed.
Yeah, you are trolling because you wont get off the ******* sniper rifle redline AFK bs dude.
Again, watch my youtube videos. Watch my stream for once in your life. Read something I post other then those cherry picked threads. Talk to people who I roll with. Theyll tell you a completely different story and maybe, just maybe, you can look at this objectively.
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.17 17:12:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:I dont personally get too many games that are nearly over that's not to say that they dont still happen because they do. If you keep getting a lot of nearly done game then that IS a big problem that CCP should definitely look into.
Aeon mate this is how matches have been for me playing solo for a lot longer than just this last matchmaker hotfix.
The way I see it is, if my team is really crappy, it means I will knock the WP figure up nice and high and bag a lot of isk n SP. (I lose more isk to achieve that however..... would this be your experience too?)
By the way man, next time your online hit me up, I will run some squads so you can see the kind of matches I get into on the EU servers. Some of them can be absolutely great fun brawlfests, others are massive stomps.
Thats just it though, dawg, a player shouldnt have to run a squad to get baseline enjoyment out of this game. Its a fundamental problem, I feel. |
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.04.17 18:35:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:DERP33 wrote:You are just part of the problem. LOL. The matchmaker thinks your good, if you are paired up against other good players it's a compliment lol. According to you though, the matchmaker is wrong, and you are truly bad. Your name is startlingly appropriate for that comment. Does the term "Ad Hominem" mean anything to you?
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Posted - 2015.04.17 22:53:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:I am about as anti the new matchmaking system as it gets, and suffer from many of the same problems you do. And while I've made posts bitching about it I didn't even bother reading past the title and instantly assumed that you're just a life-long AFK scrub lord.
Fixed that for you. |
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