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Aeon Amadi Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 9536	Posted - 2015.04.17 03:18:00 - [31] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: At least I don't AFK, which is a big plus. When I am getting stomped I figure out ways to stay in the match and participate. I got better things to do than to try and convince you, an insignificant speck on the map who I have never once seen in a match - let alone fought, that I actually play this game. Keeping trolling though, sure it'll get you out of that basement eventually.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 9378	Posted - 2015.04.17 03:18:00 - [32] - Quote Imp Smash wrote: I really don't get the matchmaking bitching lately. Of the last 20 matches I've played, 2 were not close. I still see AFKers...they are just afking and playing on their PS4s... Your my score is probably on par with your actual skill level then. @Ripley_Riley
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 9378	Posted - 2015.04.17 03:20:00 - [33] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: I got better things to do than to try and convince you, an insignificant speck on the map who I have never once seen in a match - let alone fought, that I actually play this game. Keeping trolling though, sure it'll get you out of that basement eventually. I saw you once. You red line sniped the entire time. Then, in my corp recruitment thread, you asked to join us if you could red line snipe I told you no. Aeon Amadi wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Nope. Decided that I'd like to plea guilty to my accusations and become what society has made me. La l+¡nea roja artillero... Then we must decline, as sniping is literally [Austrian-born German politician and the leader of the **** Party]. Then I look forward to seeing you on the battlefield while not being able to hit you with a railgun that phases into another plane of existence at precisely 450m! @Ripley_Riley
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 12263	Posted - 2015.04.17 03:22:00 - [34] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Talk about them, yes, absolutely. Post screen caps of the matches. Send emails to Rattati for review. Promote AFKing? No. Heeellll no. I didn't see anything promoting AFKing, just that he was considering it for himself. Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
Aeon Amadi Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 9536	Posted - 2015.04.17 03:24:00 - [35] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: I got better things to do than to try and convince you, an insignificant speck on the map who I have never once seen in a match - let alone fought, that I actually play this game. Keeping trolling though, sure it'll get you out of that basement eventually. I saw you once. You red line sniped the entire time. Then, in my corp recruitment thread, you asked to join us if you could red line snipe I told you no. Must be nice to just be a push over who doesn't care what happens to their play-style or their game. Some of us don't have that luxury.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18305	Posted - 2015.04.17 03:26:00 - [36] - Quote I find anything that makes you rage this hard Aeon to be very, very entertaining. Change the world Chosen One! My energy for the Spirit Bomb you are about to unleash on CCP! GÇ£That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die.GÇ¥ -The Nameless City
Aeon Amadi Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 9536	Posted - 2015.04.17 03:29:00 - [37] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I find anything that makes you rage this hard Aeon to be very, very entertaining. Change the world Chosen One! My energy for the Spirit Bomb you are about to unleash on CCP! Et tu? Whatever. Thanks, bro. Really appreciate it that my genuine frustration gets you off. Glad I could be of service. Gemm ouincamv, bmayca, po hud reddehk dra tysbahanc uh ouin fyo uid uv dra MCC... I'm out. This community sucks worse than this game and I genuinely hope you guys get a really, REALLY terrible CPM 2.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 9378	Posted - 2015.04.17 03:29:00 - [38] - Quote I care. I just don't believe the approach you are taking is at all what Dust needs right now. You aren't an idiot, even if you are stubborn. You could probably put together some data for Rattati to review. Instead you choose to cross your arms and not play because you think it isn't fair. @Ripley_Riley
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 18306	Posted - 2015.04.17 03:31:00 - [39] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: True Adamance wrote: I find anything that makes you rage this hard Aeon to be very, very entertaining. Change the world Chosen One! My energy for the Spirit Bomb you are about to unleash on CCP! Et tu? Whatever. Thanks, bro. Really appreciate it that my genuine frustration gets you off. Glad I could be of service. Gemm ouincamv, bmayca, po hud reddehk dra tysbahanc uh ouin fyo uid uv dra MCC... I'm out. This community sucks worse than this game and I genuinely hope you guys get a really, REALLY terrible CPM 2. Oh come on mate. Have a sense of humour. Y'know the Chosen One and Spirit Bomb crap was me referencing you apply for CPM2 right? More to the point how would you deal with CPM duty if you are this sensitive? GÇ£That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die.GÇ¥ -The Nameless City
The Modern Creature Incorruptibles 56	Posted - 2015.04.17 04:01:00 - [40] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: I got better things to do than to try and convince you, an insignificant speck on the map who I have never once seen in a match - let alone fought, that I actually play this game. Keeping trolling though, sure it'll get you out of that basement eventually. I saw you once. You red line sniped the entire time. Then, in my corp recruitment thread, you asked to join us if you could red line snipe I told you no. Must be nice to just be a push over who doesn't care what happens to their play-style or their game. Some of us don't have that luxury. There are no Luxury's for a free to play game. Attention passengers I will be your captain for the evening, I'm sure we won't run into any swarms but just inc- JUMP!!!

Ghost Kaisar Negative-Feedback 10907	Posted - 2015.04.17 04:54:00 - [41] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Seriously considering AFKing (screenshot is from my third match) this game from now on. See links below as to why. EDIT: This is my fourth match, just joined - haven't even spawned in yet. EDIT: Fifth match, this is how it was when I joined. Didn't get hardly jack for rewards because I couldn't find anything to kill in what little time I had.. Can't even AFK the match maker screws me so badly! EDIT: Match six, lost again for a total of 5/6 matches lost in two hours time. Here's the gallery showing the progression where I actually played because you guys kept whining buuuut didn't make a damn bit of difference. Maybe I should 'git gud'? Right? Saving this for when you want to run for CPM again. Currently listening to: Max Anarchy OST Old School Scout, watch out for the knives
jane stalin Ametat Security Amarr Empire 272	Posted - 2015.04.17 04:57:00 - [42] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: There is shame in AFK'ing though. Why play the game at all? Just quit and be done with it. I don't like people that wear orange clothing they should should be ashamed of themselves, They should quit making poor fashion choices and let someone else decide it for them.
DUST Fiend 16423	Posted - 2015.04.17 05:00:00 - [43] - Quote jane stalin wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: There is shame in AFK'ing though. Why play the game at all? Just quit and be done with it. I don't like people that wear orange clothing they should should be ashamed of themselves, They should quit making poor fashion choices and let someone else decide it for them. The difference is that someones fashion sense has no meaningful impact on your day to day life, unless you're severely mentally unstable. AFK on the other hand directly detracts from a teams overall chances at success, and thus contributes to ruining matches for others that could have otherwise been more enjoyable. Basically selfish pricks gonna be selfish pricks and they'll pop up no matter what you do. Damn pricks. *"My bitter is showing. I must retreat to the berry patch."* STUFF
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 10140	Posted - 2015.04.17 05:04:00 - [44] - Quote This game punishes those who are actually good at the game by putting them on hugely uneven teams or even worse, putting blueberries on my team so they can clone our team out because they are just cannon fodder for the two decent squads on the other squad. Thanks CCP, now no matter how good my squad performs in pubs our friendly blues will make sure they lose the match for us! 10/10 performance. The matchmaking works,if you are: A new player, a average player or a scrub at this game. If you are in veteran tier the matchmaking system has a tendency to ** you up. I never liked pubs before but jesus christ, I abhor them now. As long as 5/6 (83%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP**
jane stalin Ametat Security Amarr Empire 272	Posted - 2015.04.17 05:13:00 - [45] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: jane stalin wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: There is shame in AFK'ing though. Why play the game at all? Just quit and be done with it. I don't like people that wear orange clothing they should should be ashamed of themselves, They should quit making poor fashion choices and let someone else decide it for them. The difference is that someones fashion sense has no meaningful impact on your day to day life, unless you're severely mentally unstable. AFK on the other hand directly detracts from a teams overall chances at success, and thus contributes to ruining matches for others that could have otherwise been more enjoyable. Basically selfish pricks gonna be selfish pricks and they'll pop up no matter what you do. Damn pricks. But Increases the other team's chances of success. An really don't see how your point about enjoyment is a counter point to my example of wearing Orange, If someone likes wearing orange and it ruins other peoples enjoyment of fashion they should not be ashamed. From my perspective The blueberry who shot me in the face in a FW match and stole my dropship should not be ashamed but an actual thief should be ashamed, I do want to experience something different to normal life, I appreciate the fact you have a different view but expect me to accept your viewpoint as clearly correct, I just accept it because I feel like it.
Pocket Rocket Girl Psygod9 330	Posted - 2015.04.17 05:27:00 - [46] - Quote Because your a bad player? and only thinks of KDR? And can only run proto to get kills? ... or not? you know just saying. I dont even consder my self a good player but you know what i came here to shoot ** not hide like a twit and if i die coming at you just know im gonna keep trying lol because it i want to shoot at ** and get better at it ... you know just saying Moo? . . . Le Moo?
Gemini Cuspid 152	Posted - 2015.04.17 05:38:00 - [47] - Quote jane stalin wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: jane stalin wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: There is shame in AFK'ing though. Why play the game at all? Just quit and be done with it. I don't like people that wear orange clothing they should should be ashamed of themselves, They should quit making poor fashion choices and let someone else decide it for them. The difference is that someones fashion sense has no meaningful impact on your day to day life, unless you're severely mentally unstable. AFK on the other hand directly detracts from a teams overall chances at success, and thus contributes to ruining matches for others that could have otherwise been more enjoyable. Basically selfish pricks gonna be selfish pricks and they'll pop up no matter what you do. Damn pricks. But Increases the other team's chances of success. An really don't see how your point about enjoyment is a counter point to my example of wearing Orange, If someone likes wearing orange and it ruins other peoples enjoyment of fashion they should not be ashamed. From my perspective The blueberry who shot me in the face in a FW match and stole my dropship should not be ashamed but an actual thief should be ashamed, I do want to experience something different to normal life, I appreciate the fact you have a different view but expect me to accept your viewpoint as clearly correct, I just accept it because I feel like it. But that's, in general, the real problem with Dust as a shooter game. If we took an honest poll how many players would prefer to go 20-1 and lose the match vs. 20-20 to win it? How many players would rather "play it safe and accumulate SP/WP" doing it as a lone wolf vs. doing a team effort and sacrificing both in deaths and strategy to win the match? That's the oddity of the game that "winning" is such a loose concept; there's tons of tactics ppl utilize in order to benefit themselves. Should I be the player that charges in and goes 1-to-1 each and every time because everyone is kicking back? Worse yet spawning in when the match is "lost" and your being redlined has little to do with the "I can go BPO and take 1 out"; when you've been on both sides the team with a full squad would rather have everyone they're facing quit to end the battle vs. waiting for 1 player to spawn. That's really the big flaw with Dust, winning doesn't always equate to what our views are on winning: for some it's all about WP/SP and least amount of ISK or protecting their KDR stats. Everyone whose played at least over a half year knows this to be true as well; you as a player may want to win the battle but there's no guarantee everyone else on the squad shares that view. It's just really something the game doesn't encourage one direction or another. AFK'ing is usually followed by the same situation (team loosing). But that's only because, in the end, AFK is preferable to anything else that going in and shooting has to offer.
Swiss Forsaken X-0UT 3	Posted - 2015.04.17 06:01:00 - [48] - Quote This thread seems to have boiled down to "I think people who AFK are faggots" and "No they aren't, they're smart people who don't waste their ISK" This quit being an intellectual debate about matchmaking a long time ago. You're first mistake was admitting to afking, the next was conversing with a bunch of proto scrubs who I've personally seen camping a hilltop with a Viziam laser rifle and a Thale's, not doing anything productive for the team other than padding their k/d. Matchmaking sucks right now, we all know this but if you're going to sit in the mcc the entire time then why even play the game? Just quit playing like everyone else did.
Pocket Rocket Girl Psygod9 331	Posted - 2015.04.17 06:04:00 - [49] - Quote Swiss Forsaken wrote: This thread seems to have boiled down to "I think people who AFK are faggots" and "No they aren't, they're smart people who don't waste their ISK" This quit being an intellectual debate about matchmaking a long time ago. You're first mistake was admitting to afking, the next was conversing with a bunch of proto scrubs who I've personally seen camping a hilltop with a Viziam laser rifle and a Thale's, not doing anything productive for the team other than padding their k/d. Matchmaking sucks right now, we all know this but if you're going to sit in the mcc the entire time then why even play the game? Just quit playing like everyone else did. ^ Church Moo? . . . Le Moo?
CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 525	Posted - 2015.04.17 06:30:00 - [50] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: This game punishes those who are actually good at the game by putting them on hugely uneven teams or even worse, putting blueberries on my team so they can clone our team out because they are just cannon fodder for the two decent squads on the other squad. Thanks CCP, now no matter how good my squad performs in pubs our friendly blues will make sure they lose the match for us! 10/10 performance. The matchmaking works,if you are: A new player, a average player or a scrub at this game. If you are in veteran tier the matchmaking system has a tendency to **** you up. I never liked pubs before but jesus christ, I abhor them now. Sgt, you've touched on an interesting point, and I may gradually agree with you as I continue playing the matches. The new matchmaking system SEEMS to create a place for the general players to settle into a groove, see their leaderboard results rise five notches higher than they used to be, and repetitively enjoy their matches. But it MAY also create a rut instead of a groove, where those players who are able to face more challenging fights---or WANT to have more challenging fights,GÇª are going to find themselves stuck in teams that have the same "numbers" as you, but are rubbish when it comes to tactics and battle-sussing. Tactics and Sussing skills are the things Matchmaking can't measure---and yet are the things that make you wish you were in a more Vet-rich environment. I'm NOT a veteran-level player, just advanced, and already I'm starting to feel the "repetitive" outcomes of my matches. Mostly wins, yes, but even the wins are beginning to finish like clones of each other. Same place on the Board, same clone reserve spread, with few surprise moments anymore, and much fewer pitch battle standouts than before March. Is "balance" going to create matches that are too sterile and neutered for a portion of the community to get excitement from? Maybe FW matches shouldn't have the same matchmaking system, so players can "ascend" to FWs for rougher engagements (and PC of course should be zero-matchmaking). Sometimes I want to praise the matches where our side has 8 fewer players than theirs--at least it creates some interesting events sometimes. Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne... No story can have life without writers and publishers.

jane stalin Ametat Security Amarr Empire 272	Posted - 2015.04.17 06:55:00 - [51] - Quote CELESTA AUNGM wrote: Is "balance" going to create matches that are too sterile and neutered for a portion of the community to get excitement from? Maybe FW matches shouldn't have the same matchmaking system, so players can "ascend" to FWs for rougher engagements (and PC of course should be zero-matchmaking). Sometimes I want to praise the matches where our side has 8 fewer players than theirs--at least it creates some interesting events sometimes. As far as I can tell there is no matchmaking in FW at all . Before the match making changes I played caldari when I wanted to see good opponents and this still works, I would feel bad contributing to the never ending losses of the caldari because I suck at the game, however I do better than most of the derps on my team.
Summa Militum TotalAscendancy 380	Posted - 2015.04.17 07:10:00 - [52] - Quote Aeon Amadi is right. This new matchmaking sucks. I wont be AFKing though. I'm just going to complain on the forums until it is fixed.
Starlight Burner Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 209	Posted - 2015.04.17 08:01:00 - [53] - Quote I'm not going to throw myself into a losing situation. What's the point in doing that? Literally, think about. What's the benefit from throwing myself into a losing situation that I WILL NOT profit from or experience some form of enjoyment from? I get these matches too. Depending on how the enemy team is (Running full proto or squad(s) working together) if I'm going to Red Line snipe, AFK or straight up leave the battle. I play games for enjoyment, unless I'm playing a simulator such as ARMA. There is no enjoyment in throwing myself at a losing situation. Especially, when I do not get paid for attempting to win a fight. I / we play public matches for a source of isk income. Public matches is the only way a 1 - 6 player squad to make money. (Soon to be 4 if squad sizes gets reduced). Tell me right now, where I can profit from a match without wasting my time, peace at mind, or enjoyment of playing a video game? Until we get multiple different ways of efficient income of isk, I too will AFK or leave these matches. There's nothing wrong with him or anyone else going AFK for this Bullcrap. CCP Rattati, stop buffing things based on use! Unemployed, LFC Thank you CCP for DUST 514!
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 8135	Posted - 2015.04.17 08:07:00 - [54] - Quote The problem is the "top tier" players are in a sparse matchmaking queue. There's not a whole lot of people there. Honestly I have no sympathy given how adept you guys have been at setting up circumstances allowing easy wins and slaughter harvests. So unfortunately the curccurve broke and you are all facing the other people who do the exact same thing. The shoe is now on the other foot. You finally have your magical goodfite tier. Unfortunately there's not a lot of people in there. There's also a highly inflated number of stat padders, which contributes to making the games worse. That part I sympathize with, and now you know why I loathe risk Averse stat padding candyasses. But bluntly Aeon, you need to check your ego. You do not get to play primary redline sniper and get to claim that you're amazing. It doesn't work like that. The nerd in the assault suit that continually runs rings around my proto fatsuits and drops me consistently? He gets to claim badassery. Redline snipers just get hunted for sport and the pleasure of destroying thales. The redline is for risk aversion and I will forever dismiss any claim to "skill" by anyone who spends most of their time there. But if you're continually geting rekt because the other team outnumbers you? Blame the matchmaking tier. Congratulations. You're In the top tier. Not many are, and until we get a few more, the top tier is going to suck ass. AV
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 422	Posted - 2015.04.17 08:15:00 - [55] - Quote Here is a solution. STOP PLAYING. as long as we are still playing on the ps3 there is no reason for CCP to move this game forward. CPMs have already blabbed and stated that the game will not have any NEW development, so lets force their hand. Without players CCP will either have to abandon the project or move it forward to make money again(PS4 launch) Everything within the Unreal Engine carries over easily and now with 16x(ish) more RAM. With the extra RAM, there should never be a need for vRAM from the HDD and will remove any advantage that SSD players had. The only thing that would need to be tweaked would be the server connections.(god help us all) Just because your SPEEDTEST.net shows a good connection, doesn't mean you are not a lagging f*ck
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 23229	Posted - 2015.04.17 08:30:00 - [56] - Quote I don't give a damn about how high someone's mu score is inflated, 5v16 is disgraceful and cannot possibly be the product of a working matchmaker. Gallente Guide one day i may leave the basement but that day is not today
Jason Pearson Legio DXIV 4388	Posted - 2015.04.17 08:48:00 - [57] - Quote So DUST is still bad then? Good, good.
Aeon Amadi Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 9553	Posted - 2015.04.17 08:52:00 - [58] - Quote Came back here because CCP Rattati responded on Twitter chalking it up to 'outliers and anomalies': https://twitter.com/CCP_Rattati/status/588918027179204608 First of all, I'm not running for CPM 2 - I never was, I never will be. I don't care, I honestly hope that you guys vote like you did for CPM 1 and further dig your own graves (I won't be voting because I want no part in that hilarity, I just want to watch it all burn). Second of all, you're not impressing anyone with your moral statute of "I'm losing, better continue running out there and losing ISK or defaulting to my BPO gimmick". The match maker was designed to try and stop this from happening but, incidentally, it still is and I have screenshots galore showing this. Even the screenshots where I actually participated are ignored though because once you apparently show a single screenshot of you rubber-banding your controller, you're suddenly a life-long AFKer. Thirdly, (you can stop reading here because you think I'm a life-long AFKer and none of this will actually matter, just go to 'reply' or 'quote') there is a theory as to why this is happening and that it's Artificially Inflated MU/"True Skill" from running with teams and squads. Being as I'm in RnD/Negative Feedback, I have a tendency to roll with my bros ANON Illuminati, Insufficient Data, etc and we do a fantastic job because we've basically known each other since Closed Beta and we know each other's limits. When I run solo, how do you honestly think that affects my "True Skill" or "MU"? Do you think that **** just goes away because I'm suddenly not in a squad? Am I honestly expected to have to run squads/teams to effectively make the most out of what the match maker thinks I'm capable of by myself? Fourthly, Arkena nailed it on the head. Why the hell am I expected by you guys to tough it out, 'grow a pair', 'git gud' and fight against an entire team with only four other people on mine, three of which went so badly negative that I can't help but wonder what good they actually did there? Is this the sort of mentality you guys are honestly shooting for? That 5v16 is okay but you should never AFK; peer pressuring new and old players to metaphorically -JUMP OFF OF A BRIDGE?- Fifthly, to Breakin Stuff, dude - it is not my fault that I played the game normally up until this match maker conundrum. It is -NOT- my fault that I played out the matches that I was given, that Scotty thought it was in any way okay to put me and an entire squad of experienced veterans against a bunch of new players and it is -NOT- my fault that you or the rest of the community think that I "set it up" that way. I don't intentionally look at the team board and say, "Oh, they have a full squad on their team, let me back out and find something easier" - I stuck with it even though it was going to be a hard fight. Am I supposed to be punished, now, because of this crazy stereotype that all veterans are proto-stomping jackasses who leave the match at the first sign of competition? After I've -SHOWN YOU- the kind of "competition" it puts me into? Am I supposed to feel bad for doing the smart thing and not involving myself in an experience I -KNOW- will not be enjoyable? Like, what the [REDACTED] is wrong with you guys, seriously? Is it -my fault- that there are 'outliers and anomalies' in which I as a player am basically reserved to FW and PC to have even a remotely good experience? You say the match maker is working, I say it's not, I provide evidence that it's not, and I found a solution for myself that didn't involve tearing my own eyes out in frustration.... So the logical conclusion is to give me flak for it because you disagree with the practice rather than, I dunno, looking at what caused it. Seriously, why would I ever run for CPM with this kind of community? You guys suck
Jason Pearson Legio DXIV 4388	Posted - 2015.04.17 08:55:00 - [59] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: You guys suck Whoa, whoa, whoa..
Sleepy Shadow Qualified Scrub 312	Posted - 2015.04.17 09:07:00 - [60] - Quote My biggest issue is that I have been demoted to GÇ£fillerGÇ¥ status. Meaning that I only get a match if someone else leaves (._. ) I donGÇÖt like domination so I used to only queue to skirmish. Since the new matchmaker I had to add ambush so that I could have at least some matches that I start from the beginning. And itGÇÖs annoying to be thrown in mid match for two reasons, you generally get thrown in with the losing side as someone gave up and the rewards are absolutely pathetic. The first one I can live with but the second one should be much higher if you want me to stay in that red line match. Other than that I have enjoyed the new matchmaker. I found matches to be much more fun than before where both sides push hard and the matches are close. =ƒÿ¦



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