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GLOBAL RAGE
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Posted - 2015.04.04 06:23:00 -
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To those of you who do not know, a Rugby superstar was taken by the San Francisco 49ers as a prospect.
In no way do I want to hate, but:
He is too slow- a 4.5 40yd (I ran better than that in HS)
He catches the ball with his body, not out stretched hands.
He has a language deficit in technical Football language
and everyone in the NFL is fast- and 70% are faster than this guy!!!
Sorry RUGBY, but you're hero is about to get blown up by the NFL! |
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Posted - 2015.04.04 06:34:00 -
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But what is his WP total?
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GLOBAL RAGE
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Posted - 2015.04.04 06:37:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:But what is his WP total?
Not as much a Bo Jackson's 4.1 40 yrd dash
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Otrera Goddess
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Posted - 2015.04.04 06:37:00 -
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The guy is an Australian legend and beast. Your NFL players wear padding because otherwise they will get "hurt" where as our rugby players do not.
He is used to taking heavy knocks and shrugging them off. Just wait and see.... Just wait and see  |
Joseph Ridgeson
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Posted - 2015.04.04 06:38:00 -
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GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:But what is his WP total? Not as much a Bo Jackson's 4.1 40 yrd dash
What about KD?
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GLOBAL RAGE
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Posted - 2015.04.04 06:39:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:But what is his WP total? Not as much a Bo Jackson's 4.1 40 yrd dash What about KD?
0 and since he looks to be SP teams 0 prospects.
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Joseph Ridgeson
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Posted - 2015.04.04 06:42:00 -
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GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:But what is his WP total? Not as much a Bo Jackson's 4.1 40 yrd dash What about KD? 0 and since he looks to be SP teams 0 prospects.
Surely his SP is higher than zero.
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GLOBAL RAGE
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Posted - 2015.04.04 06:49:00 -
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Otrera Goddess wrote:The guy is an Australian legend and beast. Your NFL players wear padding because otherwise they will get "hurt" where as our rugby players do not. He is used to taking heavy knocks and shrugging them off. Just wait and see.... Just wait and see
I really hope that he excels I really do, but the Pacific is a small pond compared to Rugby and the NFL. I want to see MERICA give you all a good RUGBY challenge in the upcoming Olympics and as an ambassador to the sport I truly welcome Hayden.
I know, after watching his training films, that if he learns to reach out for the ball, and can learn "football" language a good coach could make him a situation player-other than special teams (punt returns and kick off returns).
BUT he is not fast, not NFL fast.
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GLOBAL RAGE
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Posted - 2015.04.04 06:55:00 -
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But at 6'2 226lbs if he can learn to stick his head into some one then that is a different game. He could play defence -the real mans game! |
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
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Posted - 2015.04.04 06:56:00 -
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Otrera Goddess wrote:The guy is an Australian legend and beast. Your NFL players wear padding because otherwise they will get "hurt" where as our rugby players do not. He is used to taking heavy knocks and shrugging them off. Just wait and see.... Just wait and see
Eh... it's to reduce neural deterioration which happens to ALL sports players who specialize in impacts.
More specifically any impacts to the head.
Yes, Neural degeneration. That's slow brain damage over time, where the nerves gradually hemorrhage into one another.
http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU
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GLOBAL RAGE
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Posted - 2015.04.04 06:59:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Otrera Goddess wrote:The guy is an Australian legend and beast. Your NFL players wear padding because otherwise they will get "hurt" where as our rugby players do not. He is used to taking heavy knocks and shrugging them off. Just wait and see.... Just wait and see Eh... it's to reduce neural deterioration which happens to ALL sports players who specialize in impacts. More specifically any impacts to the head. Yes, Neural degeneration. That's slow brain damage over time, where the nerves gradually hemorrhage into one another.
I was told that had no Amygdala at one time so he is good to go! |
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Posted - 2015.04.04 07:00:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Otrera Goddess wrote:The guy is an Australian legend and beast. Your NFL players wear padding because otherwise they will get "hurt" where as our rugby players do not. He is used to taking heavy knocks and shrugging them off. Just wait and see.... Just wait and see Eh... it's to reduce neural deterioration which happens to ALL sports players who specialize in impacts. More specifically any impacts to the head. Yes, Neural degeneration. That's slow brain damage over time, where the nerves gradually hemorrhage into one another. Edit: Each impact leaves permanent damage. There's no "shrugging off" of this, just dying earlier in life as a result.
Pussies. |
GLOBAL RAGE
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Posted - 2015.04.04 07:04:00 -
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Otrera Goddess wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Otrera Goddess wrote:The guy is an Australian legend and beast. Your NFL players wear padding because otherwise they will get "hurt" where as our rugby players do not. He is used to taking heavy knocks and shrugging them off. Just wait and see.... Just wait and see Eh... it's to reduce neural deterioration which happens to ALL sports players who specialize in impacts. More specifically any impacts to the head. Yes, Neural degeneration. That's slow brain damage over time, where the nerves gradually hemorrhage into one another. Edit: Each impact leaves permanent damage. There's no "shrugging off" of this, just dying earlier in life as a result. Pussies.
LOL
Along time ago in a distant land where "crown" tackling was coached...I hit this fuqqer so hard I broke his hand and his ribs..I rang my bell-but it was homecoming and my girl was the daughter of the chief of police and yes she was the head cheerleader-NO LIE! |
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Posted - 2015.04.04 07:06:00 -
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Otrera Goddess
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Posted - 2015.04.04 07:06:00 -
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GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Otrera Goddess wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Otrera Goddess wrote:The guy is an Australian legend and beast. Your NFL players wear padding because otherwise they will get "hurt" where as our rugby players do not. He is used to taking heavy knocks and shrugging them off. Just wait and see.... Just wait and see Eh... it's to reduce neural deterioration which happens to ALL sports players who specialize in impacts. More specifically any impacts to the head. Yes, Neural degeneration. That's slow brain damage over time, where the nerves gradually hemorrhage into one another. Edit: Each impact leaves permanent damage. There's no "shrugging off" of this, just dying earlier in life as a result. Pussies. LOL Along time ago in a distant land where "crown" tackling was coached...I hit this fuqqer so hard I broke his hand and his ribs..I rang my bell-but it was homecoming and my girl was the daughter of the chief of police and yes she was the head cheerleader-NO LIE!
Cheerleader pussyy.... yeah boy |
GLOBAL RAGE
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Posted - 2015.04.04 07:11:00 -
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Otrera Goddess wrote:GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Otrera Goddess wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Otrera Goddess wrote:The guy is an Australian legend and beast. Your NFL players wear padding because otherwise they will get "hurt" where as our rugby players do not. He is used to taking heavy knocks and shrugging them off. Just wait and see.... Just wait and see Eh... it's to reduce neural deterioration which happens to ALL sports players who specialize in impacts. More specifically any impacts to the head. Yes, Neural degeneration. That's slow brain damage over time, where the nerves gradually hemorrhage into one another. Edit: Each impact leaves permanent damage. There's no "shrugging off" of this, just dying earlier in life as a result. Pussies. LOL Along time ago in a distant land where "crown" tackling was coached...I hit this fuqqer so hard I broke his hand and his ribs..I rang my bell-but it was homecoming and my girl was the daughter of the chief of police and yes she was the head cheerleader-NO LIE! Cheerleader pussyy.... yeah boy
Her name was Charlene-that was homecoming
I moved to Patty she was prom queen and
after that did not go well I got Charlene' little sister
and the Chief still loved me-lol but true
I disapeered for 30 year into SOF, and Facebook is ******* interesting..lol |
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
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Posted - 2015.04.04 07:16:00 -
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Otrera Goddess wrote:Pussies.
You want to die 20-30 years earlier, while your limbs contort and you wiggle helplessly in pain and suffering during the last 10? Okay, hit yourself over the head with a frying pan about 40 times a day. If the hit didn't make you almost pass out, you know you weren't hitting hard enough.
http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU
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GLOBAL RAGE
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Posted - 2015.04.04 07:23:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Otrera Goddess wrote:Pussies. You want to die 20-30 years earlier, while your limbs contort and you wiggle helplessly in pain and suffering during the last 10? Okay, hit yourself over the head with a frying pan about 40 times a day. If the hit didn't make you almost pass out, you know you weren't hitting hard enough.
Not true.
The "red shots" I did not like, but I played though concussions and yes sometimes I hit lows, but who doesn't.
I used it and made a career out of being "Alpha Male" ya I was the top 1%, but I always said that it was because I was to stupid to run from pain..LOL only my vets will see this |
GLOBAL RAGE
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Posted - 2015.04.04 07:28:00 -
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Let's get back to Rugby |
Jonny D Buelle
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Posted - 2015.04.04 07:39:00 -
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GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Otrera Goddess wrote:The guy is an Australian legend and beast. Your NFL players wear padding because otherwise they will get "hurt" where as our rugby players do not. He is used to taking heavy knocks and shrugging them off. Just wait and see.... Just wait and see I really hope that he excels I really do, but the Pacific is a small pond compared to Rugby and the NFL. I want to see MERICA give you all a good RUGBY challenge in the upcoming Olympics and as an ambassador to the sport I truly welcome Hayden. I know, after watching his training films, that if he learns to reach out for the ball, and can learn "football" language a good coach could make him a situation player-other than special teams (punt returns and kick off returns). BUT he is not fast, not NFL fast.
Hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Bro, you don't need to wait till the Olympics to see how bad the Americans are in rugby. World Cup is only a few months away and the All Blacks are gonna win again!
You guys always get creamed in the pool matches and I will say you guys have gotten better but against the Wallabies, Springboks, the Irish, the British, hell even the Welsh and the Scottish...
Stick to your pads bro.
I find your lack of heaviness... disturbing...
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Posted - 2015.04.04 07:42:00 -
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Next Board Jackson, that's terrifying. He will eat my bullets and turn me into a pretzel.
BRUH.
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GLOBAL RAGE
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Posted - 2015.04.04 08:11:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:Next Board Jackson, that's terrifying. He will eat my bullets and turn me into a pretzel.
He is not the next Bo Jackson-no will ever be BO!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyqgjgVgX_I&feature=player_embedded
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GLOBAL RAGE
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Posted - 2015.04.04 08:58:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Otrera Goddess wrote:The guy is an Australian legend and beast. Your NFL players wear padding because otherwise they will get "hurt" where as our rugby players do not. He is used to taking heavy knocks and shrugging them off. Just wait and see.... Just wait and see I really hope that he excels I really do, but the Pacific is a small pond compared to Rugby and the NFL. I want to see MERICA give you all a good RUGBY challenge in the upcoming Olympics and as an ambassador to the sport I truly welcome Hayden. I know, after watching his training films, that if he learns to reach out for the ball, and can learn "football" language a good coach could make him a situation player-other than special teams (punt returns and kick off returns). BUT he is not fast, not NFL fast. Hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Bro, you don't need to wait till the Olympics to see how bad the Americans are in rugby. World Cup is only a few months away and the All Blacks are gonna win again! You guys always get creamed in the pool matches and I will say you guys have gotten better but against the Wallabies, Springboks, the Irish, the British, hell even the Welsh and the Scottish... Stick to your pads bro.
Your superstar is going to get his ass handed to him. The NFL is not a place for a dreamer-it is too fast and too violent.
Rugby is a very simplistic game, but not as gay as soccer-I'll give you that, but everyone in the NFL is Fast and a 4.5 in the 40 is slooooow, hell there are 290lbs defensive ends that are faster and quicker no less.
He'll get cut before preseason ends! |
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Posted - 2015.04.04 09:14:00 -
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GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Otrera Goddess wrote:The guy is an Australian legend and beast. Your NFL players wear padding because otherwise they will get "hurt" where as our rugby players do not. He is used to taking heavy knocks and shrugging them off. Just wait and see.... Just wait and see I really hope that he excels I really do, but the Pacific is a small pond compared to Rugby and the NFL. I want to see MERICA give you all a good RUGBY challenge in the upcoming Olympics and as an ambassador to the sport I truly welcome Hayden. I know, after watching his training films, that if he learns to reach out for the ball, and can learn "football" language a good coach could make him a situation player-other than special teams (punt returns and kick off returns). BUT he is not fast, not NFL fast. Hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Bro, you don't need to wait till the Olympics to see how bad the Americans are in rugby. World Cup is only a few months away and the All Blacks are gonna win again! You guys always get creamed in the pool matches and I will say you guys have gotten better but against the Wallabies, Springboks, the Irish, the British, hell even the Welsh and the Scottish... Stick to your pads bro. Your superstar is going to get his ass handed to him. The NFL is not a place for a dreamer-it is too fast and too violent. Rugby is a very simplistic game, but not as gay as soccer-I'll give you that, but everyone in the NFL is Fast and a 4.5 in the 40 is slooooow, hell there are 290lbs defensive ends that are faster and quicker. He'll get cut before preseason ends!
Bro, there is a massive difference between Rugby and Rugby League.
Also keep in mind your NFL stars have two teams (offensive and defensive) and use up all their speed and stamina in short sprints. Not to mention you have downs and three timeouts each half with breaks each quarter and a 30min half time.
In proper Rugby (not league) you only have two halves 40 minutes each. Each team only has 15 a side with between 6-8 reserves. We take no timeouts unless injury occurs and have a small break in our half time. Each player has to be an all rounder and had to learn how to both tackle and run the ball. Not to mention rucks, mauls and brawls are frequent.
Did I mention we don't switch players every two minutes?
Edit: Also no downs, its 40min continuous and we don't use pads. Only mouth guards and the occasional soft leather helmet.
I find your lack of heaviness... disturbing...
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GLOBAL RAGE
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Posted - 2015.04.04 09:18:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Otrera Goddess wrote:The guy is an Australian legend and beast. Your NFL players wear padding because otherwise they will get "hurt" where as our rugby players do not. He is used to taking heavy knocks and shrugging them off. Just wait and see.... Just wait and see I really hope that he excels I really do, but the Pacific is a small pond compared to Rugby and the NFL. I want to see MERICA give you all a good RUGBY challenge in the upcoming Olympics and as an ambassador to the sport I truly welcome Hayden. I know, after watching his training films, that if he learns to reach out for the ball, and can learn "football" language a good coach could make him a situation player-other than special teams (punt returns and kick off returns). BUT he is not fast, not NFL fast. Hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Bro, you don't need to wait till the Olympics to see how bad the Americans are in rugby. World Cup is only a few months away and the All Blacks are gonna win again! You guys always get creamed in the pool matches and I will say you guys have gotten better but against the Wallabies, Springboks, the Irish, the British, hell even the Welsh and the Scottish... Stick to your pads bro. Your superstar is going to get his ass handed to him. The NFL is not a place for a dreamer-it is too fast and too violent. Rugby is a very simplistic game, but not as gay as soccer-I'll give you that, but everyone in the NFL is Fast and a 4.5 in the 40 is slooooow, hell there are 290lbs defensive ends that are faster and quicker. He'll get cut before preseason ends! Bro, there is a massive difference between Rugby and Rugby League. Also keep in mind your NFL stars have two teams (offensive and defensive) and use up all their speed and stamina in short sprints. Not to mention you have downs and three timeouts each half with breaks each quarter and a 30min half time. In proper Rugby (not league) you only have two halves 40 minutes each. Each team only has 15 a side with between 6-8 reserves. We take no timeouts unless injury occurs and have a small break in our half time. Each player has to be an all rounder and had to learn how to both tackle and run the ball. Not to mention rucks, mauls and brawls are frequent. Did I mention we don't switch players every two minutes? Edit: Also no downs, its 40min continuous and we don't use pads. Only mouth guards and the occasional soft leather helmet.
NO.
on the corners every play is a full sprint, and everyone is a world class sprinter-we'll start there |
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Posted - 2015.04.04 09:23:00 -
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Two very different sports.
Three really (Union & League).
Therefore different types of players.
NFL players would suck at Rugby, Rugby players would suck at NFL.
But obviously Rugby is better... |
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Posted - 2015.04.04 09:23:00 -
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GLOBAL RAGE wrote:
NO.
on the corners every play is a full sprint, and everyone is a world class sprinter-we'll start there
Bro, your argument has been proved invalid on multiple points and I'm done trying to convince a yank that NFL is an inferior sport.
I find your lack of heaviness... disturbing...
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GLOBAL RAGE
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Posted - 2015.04.04 09:31:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:GLOBAL RAGE wrote:
NO.
on the corners every play is a full sprint, and everyone is a world class sprinter-we'll start there
Bro, your argument has been proved invalid on multiple points and I'm done trying to convince a yank that NFL is an inferior sport.
LOL, bro you are going to get blown up!
I hope that the Aussies can give us some tacklers not offence, I really do think you can, also know the German, French and England-Scotts Can give us some big bodied people.
Foot work is, the coaches focal. you give me a big guy that has basketball feet with an attitude then we got NFL-I know I've played ball in Adelaide, you got them in spades-but NFL aggression is required. |
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Posted - 2015.04.04 09:36:00 -
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GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:GLOBAL RAGE wrote:
NO.
on the corners every play is a full sprint, and everyone is a world class sprinter-we'll start there
Bro, your argument has been proved invalid on multiple points and I'm done trying to convince a yank that NFL is an inferior sport. LOL, bro you are going to get blown up! I hope that the Aussies can give us some tacklers not offence, I really do think you can, also know the German, French and England-Scotts Can give us some big bodied people. Foot work is, the coaches focal. you give me a big guy that has basketball feet with an attitude then we got NFL-I know I've played ball in Adelaide, you got them in spades-but NFL aggression is required.
We have Germans here in Florida playing football,,,FLORIDA if you can play it here you can play it anywhere-FLORIDA football! |
GLOBAL RAGE
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Posted - 2015.04.04 09:52:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:GLOBAL RAGE wrote:
NO.
on the corners every play is a full sprint, and everyone is a world class sprinter-we'll start there
Bro, your argument has been proved invalid on multiple points and I'm done trying to convince a yank that NFL is an inferior sport.
I do need to respond you your YANK!
If you think that I am a common North American then I will have to oblige.
I am a Yankee doodle dandee, My family is from New England, Boston specifically and you need to be educated.
In 1775 we were 2 inches taller and 20lbs bigger than you, you are nothing more than saxon's and associated criminals.
When Tudor took hold and the Puritans arose-then the mass migration of we Normans took place-We are Norman, Templar, Puritans: suck it! |
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GLOBAL RAGE wrote:To those of you who do not know, a Rugby superstar was taken by the San Francisco 49ers as a prospect.
In no way do I want to hate, but:
He is too slow- a 4.5 40yd (I ran better than that in HS)
He catches the ball with his body, not out stretched hands.
He has a language deficit in technical Football language
and everyone in the NFL is fast- and 70% are faster than this guy!!!
Sorry RUGBY, but you're hero is about to get blown up by the NFL!
OH and he runs upright like a target!
Jarryd Hayne's 40 yard time would have put him in the TOP TEN Running Backs at the most recent combine.
Your alleged '40 yard time' was hand-timed BS. Just like all the other highschool '40 yard times';
This is just embarrassing. |
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Posted - 2015.04.06 01:45:00 -
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GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:GLOBAL RAGE wrote:
NO.
on the corners every play is a full sprint, and everyone is a world class sprinter-we'll start there
Bro, your argument has been proved invalid on multiple points and I'm done trying to convince a yank that NFL is an inferior sport. I do need to respond you your YANK! as I find it highly offensive and is racially arrogant in that it states that all people living in North America would considered themselves American-when in deed they do not, because they are agnostic to their own nationality and sovereign governance...lol they are fools If you think that I am a common North American then I will have to oblige. I am a Yankee doodle dandee, My family is from New England, Boston specifically and you need to be educated. In 1775 we were 2 inches taller and 20lbs bigger than you, you are nothing more than saxon's and associated criminals. When Tudor took hold and the Puritans arose-then the mass migration of we Normans took place-We are Norman, Templar, Puritans: suck it! Do you like how I can say all that? I know since your mother was a sheep and your dad was a welsh probate...lol
That moment when I'm from New Zealand (founded by a Dutch, colonized by poor english settlers) and actually Irish, German and Maori no trace of Welsh in my ancestry thank God.
Maybe you need to do some research.
I find your lack of heaviness... disturbing...
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Posted - 2015.04.06 01:49:00 -
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Otrera Goddess wrote:The guy is an Australian legend and beast. Your NFL players wear padding because otherwise they will get "hurt" where as our rugby players do not. He is used to taking heavy knocks and shrugging them off. Just wait and see.... Just wait and see
The padding leads to more violent collisions.
The NFL benefits from a few hundred years of terrible American history where a byproduct was genetic breeding. It's not even close. You could give a rugby coach 2 weeks with his choice of NFL players and they'd make the best rugby team in the world look stupid.
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Posted - 2015.04.06 01:50:00 -
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My opinion is that you don't know what will happen.
A 4.5 40 is nothing to be sneezed at. There are plenty of players at wide out who run that, and its about way more things than speed.
According to at least one article, he has soft hands and is considered fast.
Not to mention one of the 49ers defenders is a Brit discuss thrower who had never played football til he joined the team.
Athletes are athletes, and the best can play at high levels in multiple sports with training and effort.
You have no idea what he is capable of, and he wouldn't be the first rugby player to play in the NFL.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Posted - 2015.04.06 01:53:00 -
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Wtf has any of this shite got to do with dust?
feck off to the locker room if you want to talk about fagball. |
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Posted - 2015.04.06 01:53:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Otrera Goddess wrote:The guy is an Australian legend and beast. Your NFL players wear padding because otherwise they will get "hurt" where as our rugby players do not. He is used to taking heavy knocks and shrugging them off. Just wait and see.... Just wait and see The padding leads to more violent collisions. The NFL benefits from a few hundred years of terrible American history where a byproduct was genetic breeding. It's not even close. You could give a rugby coach 2 weeks with his choice of NFL players and they'd make the best rugby team in the world look stupid.
Even with six months of training, your mythical superstar team would fall to pieces after the first 20 minutes,
American Football players simply aren't exceptional compared to elite athletes from other sports. At least not to the point where they possess some kind of innate advantage.
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Posted - 2015.04.06 01:54:00 -
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squatdog quadbox wrote:GLOBAL RAGE wrote:To those of you who do not know, a Rugby superstar was taken by the San Francisco 49ers as a prospect.
In no way do I want to hate, but:
He is too slow- a 4.5 40yd (I ran better than that in HS)
He catches the ball with his body, not out stretched hands.
He has a language deficit in technical Football language
and everyone in the NFL is fast- and 70% are faster than this guy!!!
Sorry RUGBY, but you're hero is about to get blown up by the NFL!
OH and he runs upright like a target! Jarryd Hayne's 40 yard time was faster than most of the Running Backs at the recent combine: http://www.nfl.com/combine/tracker#day=saturdayYour alleged '40 yard time' was hand-timed BS. Just like all the other highschool '40 yard times'; This is just embarrassing.
Agreed on the 40 time. Most of the RBs train for months to get their 40 time honed for the combine. At their best most hope to get in the 4.5s.
Emmitt Smith probably ran a 4.6 - 4.7 if you'd made him run on a Sunday morning before a game and he's the all time leading rusher.
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Quote:Emmitt Smith probably ran a 4.6 - 4.7 if you'd made him run on a Sunday morning before a game and he's the all time leading rusher.
Emmit Smith was a 5'8, 190lb midget but possessed the ability, vision and intangible qualities that made him superior to NFL players much bigger and faster than him. |
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squatdog quadbox wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Otrera Goddess wrote:The guy is an Australian legend and beast. Your NFL players wear padding because otherwise they will get "hurt" where as our rugby players do not. He is used to taking heavy knocks and shrugging them off. Just wait and see.... Just wait and see The padding leads to more violent collisions. The NFL benefits from a few hundred years of terrible American history where a byproduct was genetic breeding. It's not even close. You could give a rugby coach 2 weeks with his choice of NFL players and they'd make the best rugby team in the world look stupid. Even with six months of training, your mythical superstar team would fall to pieces after the first 20 minutes, American Football players simply aren't exceptional compared to elite athletes from other sports. At least not to the point where they possess some kind of innate advantage.
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Quote:They'd break the scoreboard in 20 minutes.
They'd walk off the field and let the other team score unopposed?
Sounds about right. |
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I just watched the dude's highlight reel. He's a baller for sure. But I'm sorry to break it to you, those dudes he is playing against are scrubs to the tenth power in comparison to what he's about to be facing.
I'll actually be rooting for him because it's a cool story.
There are high schools in Texas that would be harder for him to run through than that crap. Is that a real professional league that people pay to go watch? Can you guys get NFL Sunday Ticket in Australia? If so, you should get it. There are much fewer lumbering, slow white dudes with try hard looks on their faces. |
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squatdog quadbox wrote:Quote:Emmitt Smith probably ran a 4.6 - 4.7 if you'd made him run on a Sunday morning before a game and he's the all time leading rusher. Emmit Smith was a 5'8, 190lb midget but possessed the ability, vision and intangible qualities that made him superior to NFL players much bigger and faster than him.
216, but he had one of the greatest lines in NFL history, a HOF QB, one of the best FBs ever, and a HOF WR on the edge to keep people honest. |
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:squatdog quadbox wrote:Quote:Emmitt Smith probably ran a 4.6 - 4.7 if you'd made him run on a Sunday morning before a game and he's the all time leading rusher. Emmit Smith was a 5'8, 190lb midget but possessed the ability, vision and intangible qualities that made him superior to NFL players much bigger and faster than him. 216, but he had one of the greatest lines in NFL history, a HOF QB, one of the best FBs ever, and a HOF WR on the edge to keep people honest.
This is why I think he is over rated.
Emmit Smith doesn't have anything on Barry Sanders (or Walter Payton and Jim Brown for that matter).
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One Eyed King wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:squatdog quadbox wrote:Quote:Emmitt Smith probably ran a 4.6 - 4.7 if you'd made him run on a Sunday morning before a game and he's the all time leading rusher. Emmit Smith was a 5'8, 190lb midget but possessed the ability, vision and intangible qualities that made him superior to NFL players much bigger and faster than him. 216, but he had one of the greatest lines in NFL history, a HOF QB, one of the best FBs ever, and a HOF WR on the edge to keep people honest. This is why I think he is over rated. Emmit Smith doesn't have anything on Barry Sanders (or Walter Payton and Jim Brown for that matter).
I saw him rush for 150 yards with a separated shoulder vs the NY Giants with a Division title and 1st RND bye on the line. There have been many backs more talented, but so far none have been able to do it as long and as consistently as Emmitt.
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:I just watched the dude's highlight reel. He's a baller for sure. But I'm sorry to break it to you, those dudes he is playing against are scrubs to the tenth power in comparison to what he's about to be facing.
I'll actually be rooting for him because it's a cool story.
There are high schools in Texas that would be harder for him to run through than that crap. Is that a real professional league that people pay to go watch? Can you guys get NFL Sunday Ticket in Australia? If so, you should get it. There are much fewer lumbering, slow white dudes with try hard looks on their faces.
Why yes, just look at the weak, soft tackling in the NRL:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq2Xb3BQZyY
Also, the champion Seahawks team copied Rugby tackling to create literally the most dominant defence in the history of the NFL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HihjPApzCg&list=LLJdeefD4edpCrAx1MT3KzNA&index=77
Maybe you should contact Pete Carroll and tell him that he's wrong and that you know better?
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The NFL has better athletes all around due to its aggressive nature of always having to be the best... It will always have the strongest,fastest, and biggest players out there buuut its boring as hell to watch and that's why rugby is cooler.
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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Your crazy if you think NFL players aren't some of the biggest, strongest, fastest athletes in the world. They may not have the endurance of other sports such as soccer or rugby, but watch a defense get pounded for 4 quarters straight and tell me they dont have heart. I'll call you a liar, because I've done it.
Statistically speaking, you have a snowballs chance in H311 of making it to the NFL. These guys are literally the top 1% of athletes in the world.
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P14GU3 wrote:Your crazy if you think NFL players aren't some of the biggest, strongest, fastest athletes in the world. They may not have the endurance of other sports such as soccer or rugby, but watch a defense get pounded for 4 quarters straight and tell me they dont have heart. I'll call you a liar, because I've done it.
Statistically speaking, you have a snowballs chance in H311 of making it to the NFL. These guys are literally the top 1% of athletes in the world.
Edit: also iirc football has the youngest average death age of any sport but boxing/mma. So I wouldn't call the pads "pussified."
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squatdog quadbox wrote:P14GU3 wrote:Your crazy if you think NFL players aren't some of the biggest, strongest, fastest athletes in the world. They may not have the endurance of other sports such as soccer or rugby, but watch a defense get pounded for 4 quarters straight and tell me they dont have heart. I'll call you a liar, because I've done it.
Statistically speaking, you have a snowballs chance in H311 of making it to the NFL. These guys are literally the top 1% of athletes in the world.
Edit: also iirc football has the youngest average death age of any sport but boxing/mma. So I wouldn't call the pads "pussified." LOL...American Football struggles to even exist as a sport outside North America. It's the top 1% of 5% of the world's population.
Yet there is nfl world league to recruit from outside of america, and also apparently rugby. Does it make you upset that the nfl uses your favorite sport the same way they use their B-league?
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Quote:Yet there is nfl world league to recruit from outside of america, and also apparently rugby. Does it make you upset that the nfl uses your favorite sport the same way they use their B-league?
LOL@'NFL World League'...
Even in the supposed hotbed of Germany, American Football is a tiny niche sport played by a fringe of nerds and fatasses on deserted third division Soccer grounds. No-one cares.
Quote:Also, in terms of population, only two countries beat out the states; China and India. We probably have states with higher population than whatever island country you hail from. [/quote]
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GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Let's get back to Rugby
I just want to make it very clear that there is Rugby and there is Rugby League.
Jarryd Haynes comes from the latter.
I was extremely confused when you suggested he played Rugby.
Please; educate yourself, thou foolish, untutored American.
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http://youtu.be/12ruyY7hq5k
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Bro, let me see you in a scrum with no pads on. Where you get kicked and scraped with cleats at the bottom of it.
You silly Americans.
Saying what's on people's minds
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The overseers are asleep!
Quick talk about...football?!?!?!??
Unleash the BIMBOBOT!
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Otrera Goddess wrote:The guy is an Australian legend and beast. Your NFL players wear padding because otherwise they will get "hurt" where as our rugby players do not. He is used to taking heavy knocks and shrugging them off. Just wait and see.... Just wait and see
I wouldn't call Jarryd Hayne a 'legend' per say.
He is a real game changer and knows how to run a ball when given the space. But NFL is a totally different ball game. He can run the ball through defenders 1v1, but the realistic chance of that happening in any NFL position is non existent. He would have to learn how to truck and trailer with O Liners or wait for blocks, because he isn't THAT strong to take on 3/4 nfl defenders at once, who are more savvy to the idea of just grabbing his jersey to pull him down.
Those are the things he wouldn't understand coming from a rugby background.
p.s I hate him cause he's from NSW
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I personally train Legs with a retired 27 year old CFL player. The man is 6'7 and 270lbs and easily under 10 percent body fat. I cannot imagine a CFL player in their trainning prime, let alone a NFL player!!!
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ReGnYuM wrote:I personally train Legs with a retired 27 year old CFL player. The man is 6'7 and 270lbs and easily under 10 percent body fat. I cannot imagine a CFL player in their trainning prime, let alone a NFL player!!!
Your Rugby boy hero is going to get ****** up
Who is the single strongest player in the NFL, according to the NFL's own metrics?
Oh that's right, it's New Zealand-born former Rugby player Stephen Paea. Whoops.
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squatdog quadbox wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I just watched the dude's highlight reel. He's a baller for sure. But I'm sorry to break it to you, those dudes he is playing against are scrubs to the tenth power in comparison to what he's about to be facing.
I'll actually be rooting for him because it's a cool story.
There are high schools in Texas that would be harder for him to run through than that crap. Is that a real professional league that people pay to go watch? Can you guys get NFL Sunday Ticket in Australia? If so, you should get it. There are much fewer lumbering, slow white dudes with try hard looks on their faces. Why yes, just look at the weak, soft tackling in the NRL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq2Xb3BQZyYAlso, the champion Seahawks team copied Rugby tackling to create literally the most dominant defence in the history of the NFL. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HihjPApzCg&list=LLJdeefD4edpCrAx1MT3KzNA&index=77Maybe you should contact Pete Carroll and tell him that he's wrong and that you know better?
Rugby tackling..lol!
I cannot watch the TUBE due to copyright rules, but this is a reach of cosmic dimensions-"rugby style" means not using your head to avoid head injuries so it "safer"...lol
The Seahawks have a great "D", but there have been others that where "more dominant" and some of them where old school and a hell of a lot more violent-the NFL has toned it down over the last 20 years.
I be rooting for this downunder worlder, but he is slow, cant' speak football, and catches the ball with his body and not his hands-rugby style. |
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:The NFL has better athletes all around due to its aggressive nature of always having to be the best... It will always have the strongest,fastest, and biggest players out there buuut its boring as hell to watch and that's why rugby is cooler.
Yeah, the flow of NFL games are completely ******. Rugby is just a better sport to watch, a Rugby team of NFL players would give any other team a good match, but they'd probably still lose to experience. |
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Knight Soiaire wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:The NFL has better athletes all around due to its aggressive nature of always having to be the best... It will always have the strongest,fastest, and biggest players out there buuut its boring as hell to watch and that's why rugby is cooler. Yeah, the flow of NFL games are completely ******. Rugby is just a better sport to watch, a Rugby team of NFL players would give any other team a good match, but they'd probably still lose to experience.
Well, I'm interested because with the Olympics and the attention to rugby it will garner here in the US, there will be some players who do not have "enough" to play in the NFL that will cross over-we have thousands of College players, that are bigger, stronger and a lot faster than any thing you guys have ever seen. |
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squatdog quadbox wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:I personally train Legs with a retired 27 year old CFL player. The man is 6'7 and 270lbs and easily under 10 percent body fat. I cannot imagine a CFL player in their trainning prime, let alone a NFL player!!!
Your Rugby boy hero is going to get ****** up Who is the single strongest player in the NFL, according to the NFL's own metrics? Oh that's right, it's New Zealand-born former Rugby player Stephen Paea. Whoops.
He was 16 when he moved to Kansas.
49 reps @ 225lbs in a bench is impressive, by any standard. I remember watching a 185lb college defensive back doing 41 @ 225
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GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:The NFL has better athletes all around due to its aggressive nature of always having to be the best... It will always have the strongest,fastest, and biggest players out there buuut its boring as hell to watch and that's why rugby is cooler. Yeah, the flow of NFL games are completely ******. Rugby is just a better sport to watch, a Rugby team of NFL players would give any other team a good match, but they'd probably still lose to experience. Well, I'm interested because with the Olympics and the attention to rugby it will garner here in the US, there will be some players who do not have "enough" to play in the NFL that will cross over-we have thousands of College players, that are bigger, stronger and a lot faster than any thing you guys have ever seen.
No doubt the US team will have great athletes, I just don't think we'll see them win any major international Rugby competitions yet, not until they get a few good years of experience. |
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Quote:I be rooting for this downunder worlder, but he is slow, can not speak "the language of football", and catches the ball with his body and not his hands-rugby style.
LOL@'slow'...
Only five Running Backs recorded a faster 40 yards time in the 2015 combine:
http://www.nfl.com/combine/tracker#day=saturday
HILARIOUS.
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GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:The NFL has better athletes all around due to its aggressive nature of always having to be the best... It will always have the strongest,fastest, and biggest players out there buuut its boring as hell to watch and that's why rugby is cooler. Yeah, the flow of NFL games are completely ******. Rugby is just a better sport to watch, a Rugby team of NFL players would give any other team a good match, but they'd probably still lose to experience. Well, I'm interested because with the Olympics and the attention to rugby it will garner here in the US, there will be some players who do not have "enough" to play in the NFL that will cross over-we have thousands of College players, that are bigger, stronger and a lot faster than any thing you guys have ever seen.
Bro, the Olympic games for Rugby don't mean sh*t. You want to see how good your country is in a real man's sport? Watch the Rugby World Cup later this year.
Also keep in mind that the Olympic version is Rugby 7s, not full on Rugby.
Also I saw the USA vs Australian match live in the 2011 World Cup. I felt embarrassed for your nation. Sure you beat the Russians but they are only slightly better than USA in rugby.
Like I said before, stick to your pads bro.
I find your lack of heaviness... disturbing...
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Quote:Rugby tackling..lol!
"Carroll and his staff put out a video last summer showing rugby players and their tackling skills. In addition to showing it to his team, he said he wanted the video to get into the hands of youth groups, and high school and college coaches to show GÇ£that the game can be played safely and at a high level.GÇ¥
Rugby players tackle by leading with the shoulder rather than the head. That helps avoid major injuries and is a sounder way of tackling, with fewer missed tackles.
"Carroll was fascinated by the tackling in rugby. He watched it often. He was impressed by the fact that in a sport in which players donGÇÖt wear helmets, the tackling is superb, and safe.
GÇ£Rugby players take the head out of the game,GÇ¥ Carroll said. GÇ£We practice this without helmets, without pads.GÇ¥
"After winning a Super Bowl, CarrollGÇÖs video carried major cachet. Two Super Bowl wins would give him even more credibility when he says that tackling with the shoulder and producing a fast, hard-hitting defense is the way to win the ultimate game."
http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/01/27/seahawks-coach-pete-carroll-tells-his-players-tackle-like-rugby-player/OQy6KCmN7zfSPgKDCzthhM/story.html
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Quote:, there will be some players who do not have "enough" to play in the NFL that will cross over-we have thousands of College players, that are bigger, stronger and a lot faster than any thing you guys have ever seen.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA!!!
There have been literally DOZENS of former Div.I College Football players who have attempted to play Rugby professionally over the last 20 years. Every single one of them has failed miserably.
Once again, the vast majority of players in the NFL (let alone College Football) aren't even remotely exceptional compared to elite athletes from other sports. |
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What do micheal jordan, tiger woods, micheal phelps, and bo jackson all have in common? They are all considered by many to be the greatest athletes to ever live. They are also all american. The only other country to even come close to producing the amount of great athletes that America has, is Russia. And even then I can only think of a couple boxers and gymnasts..
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As a life long Niner fan I have been following some of the stories, etc. about Jarryd Hayne. He is actually the second Rugby star the Niners have on the roster. Lawrence Okoye has been on the practice squad for the past two years and this year will likely be a make or break year for him.
As far as Rugby vs. NFL talent I thought I would post this pic. This is from recent workouts in Arizona that included current 49er quarterback Colin Kaepernick, and several NFL receivers. Jarryd is the one in the back.
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He will likely not make a roster because everyone at the NFL level has exceptional measureables. He is without question an impressive athlete, but so is everyone else when you reach an elite level. Believe it or not, technique and decision making actually do play a part. There are a number of mediocre (by NFL standards) athletes who made careers for themselves with effective release, stemming, route running, defense reading and superior hands. I've always been a little offended by the belief that practice and technique were somehow ancillary to performance. I was a decent college running back who found playing time by being an effective blocker, pass catcher and runner with exceptional ball security (zero lost fumbles in my entire career... my only impressive stat). Not having a football background is definitely going to hurt his chances. Oddly, I really miss running into people at high speed. Now the closest I get to beast mode is chasing people around with a chainsaw...
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GLOBAL RAGE wrote:squatdog quadbox wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:I personally train Legs with a retired 27 year old CFL player. The man is 6'7 and 270lbs and easily under 10 percent body fat. I cannot imagine a CFL player in their trainning prime, let alone a NFL player!!!
Your Rugby boy hero is going to get ****** up Who is the single strongest player in the NFL, according to the NFL's own metrics? Oh that's right, it's New Zealand-born former Rugby player Stephen Paea. Whoops. He was 16 when he moved to Kansas. 49 reps @ 225lbs in a bench is impressive, by any standard. I remember watching a 185lb college defensive back doing 41 @ 225 Justin Ernest holds the NFL record at 51 reps.
Reps at 225 is a poor metric for strength and isn't the least bit predictive of football success/likelihood of earning a roster spot. Squat, dead lift and particularly cleans are more predictive of football success, but relative levels of experience and technique dilute the value of these measures. My reps at 225 would place me in the top quarter of running backs at this years combine and I was never anywhere near good enough to earn a training camp invite, much less a spot on a roster. Anyone want to wager some ISK I could do at least 18x225? I'm at work so it will have to be on a smith machine, but I can post a video :). |
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P14GU3 wrote:What do micheal jordan, tiger woods, micheal phelps, and bo jackson all have in common? They are all considered by many to be the greatest athletes to ever live. They are also all american. The only other country to even come close to producing the amount of great athletes that America has, is Russia. And even then I can only think of a couple boxers and gymnasts..
How about the tiny island nation of Jamaica completely dominating Olympic track events, with Usain Bolt being a global superstar and arguably the greatest sprinter ever?
Virtually no-one outside of America would even have a clue who 'Bo Jackson' is.
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squatdog quadbox wrote:P14GU3 wrote:What do micheal jordan, tiger woods, micheal phelps, and bo jackson all have in common? They are all considered by many to be the greatest athletes to ever live. They are also all american. The only other country to even come close to producing the amount of great athletes that America has, is Russia. And even then I can only think of a couple boxers and gymnasts.. How about the tiny island nation of Jamaica completely dominating Olympic track events, with Usain Bolt being a global superstar and arguably the greatest sprinter ever? Virtually no-one outside of America would even have a clue who 'Bo Jackson' is.
Jamaica has a very strong track tradition, but their dominance in short and short-middle distances is relatively recent. Moreover, the population is predominantly of West African descent, a genetic group that has done particularly well in sprints. Small countries have been able to do well in events in which they focus, that require limited infrastructure, and require a particular configuration of attributes (boxing, wrestling, weight lifting, some track events). Team sports and/or those that require more complicated training infrastructure have traditionally been dominated by larger countries, with the US doing particularly well. I would say that the US has more than a representative number of internationally known athletes, although this likely owes to the cultural power of the nation as much as their sports prowess. This is particularly surprising given the US has a relatively weak soccer tradition, a sport with more international presence than almost any other. |
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squatdog quadbox wrote:Quote:, there will be some players who do not have "enough" to play in the NFL that will cross over-we have thousands of College players, that are bigger, stronger and a lot faster than any thing you guys have ever seen. BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA!!! There have been literally DOZENS of former Div.I College Football players who have attempted to play Rugby professionally over the last 20 years. Every single one of them has failed miserably. Once again, the vast majority of players in the NFL (let alone College Football) aren't even remotely exceptional compared to elite athletes from other sports.
From the perspective of a combination of strength, speed and explosive power, the best NFL players are among the finest athletes on earth. I don't think there is another team sports league where a handful of players could make an Olympic 100m semi-final or final. NFL players have won more than 20 gold medals in Olympic track and field events and the fastest man over 45 in the world is a former NFL wide receiver. Regarding your comment about Div I football players who attempted to play rugby at the highest levels, ~1.6% of Div I football players will make an NFL roster, so Div I football players are not very representative of the level of talent in the NFL. |
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I came to say, Rugby is awesome. And I respect those dudes for putting on the line with no padding.
And americans...you need to get over yourselves. There's a world outside of the so called land of the free and brave.
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Posted - 2015.04.06 21:22:00 -
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My comments were not intended to be jingoistic in any way, merely an attempt to show that even a great athlete is unlikely to succeed at a complicated sport they have limited experience in. I added additional clarification regarding the general athletic quality of NFL football players, which is objective high given that no other league has produced so many Olympic medalists in a sport other than that played by said league. Any international takers for my ISK bet (20x225 on bench)? I'm in my late 30's and I only weigh ~190lbs these days, so it's kind of a toss up if I can do it or not. |
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Quote:Reps at 225 is a poor metric for strength and isn't the least bit predictive of football success/likelihood of earning a roster spot.
It's the metric used by the NFL to measure strength.
Quote:P.S. I doubt the OP can run a properly timed 40 in 4.5. Chris Johnson ran in the mid 4.2s and was competitive in college with a guy who would later win a bronze medal in the 100 at the Olympics. The NFL uses an electronic start with a hand timed finish, by professional timers. A good rule of thumb is to add at least .2-.3 seconds to any hand timed 40...more if the person doing it is inexperienced.
The NFL uses a hand-timed start off the first step.
The only reason why the test isn't fully automated is that it would drastically increase the times and the 'freak athletes' running 4.3 would suddenly be running 4.5+
Quote: Regarding your comment about Div I football players who attempted to play rugby at the highest levels, ~1.6% of Div I football players will make an NFL roster, so Div I football players are not very representative of the level of talent in the NFL.
Some moron claimed that College players who weren't good enough to make the NFL would somehow easily walk into professional Rugby and dominate...except that no former player has successfully managed to make a professional Rugby team in the last 20 years. |
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:But what is his WP total? Not as much a Bo Jackson's 4.1 40 yrd dash What about KD? 0 and since he looks to be SP teams 0 prospects. Surely his SP is higher than zero.
sounds like a proto amarr sentinel with no skills in biotics
CPMs should stop acting like they have power and remember their true position. Scapegoats for CCP
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squatdog quadbox wrote:P14GU3 wrote:What do micheal jordan, tiger woods, micheal phelps, and bo jackson all have in common? They are all considered by many to be the greatest athletes to ever live. They are also all american. The only other country to even come close to producing the amount of great athletes that America has, is Russia. And even then I can only think of a couple boxers and gymnasts.. How about the tiny island nation of Jamaica completely dominating Olympic track events, with Usain Bolt being a global superstar and arguably the greatest sprinter ever? Virtually no-one outside of America would even have a clue who 'Bo Jackson' is.
Usain bolt is a freak. He breaks most of my cities speed limits on foot. Kenyans are known for their distance running. Western europe has a crap load of tennis stars, while eastern europe does soccer (futball.) But i just named 4 of the greatest athletes to ever touch on 5 different sports. And all you could retort was "no one outside the US knows bo jackson.
Usain bolt, undoubtably the greatest sprinter ever. Roger Federer is undoubtably the greatest tennis player to date (17 grand slams  ) Manny pacquio might be pound for pound the greatest boxer ever. Horace Gracie was a juijitsu god. Im not saying that there aren't greats from other countries, but look up any "top 50 athletes" list and you will see it dominated by american athletes.
Btw, bo jackson won back to back mvps from 2 different sports. Just beacuse you have not heard of him, doesnt make his achievement any less great.
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Posted - 2015.04.06 22:54:00 -
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Chris Johnson is a good point of comparison given that he has been timed both electronically and using the NFL hybrid method. He was ~.2 of a second slower in high school than an eventual Bronze medal winner in the 100m (he came in 4th at the state meet). Had he specialized in track rather than in football, he would have a decent chance of qualifying as an Olympic alternate or as a member of the 4x100. By any account, that is freakishly fast. Moreover, I repeat my assertion that NFL players have won ~20 gold medals in track and field events. There is no other league in the world that can make a similar claim. |
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Quote:Btw, bo jackson won back to back mvps from 2 different sports. Just beacuse you have not heard of him, doesnt make his achievement any less great.
Two AMERICAN sports, one of which struggles to even exist outside of North America. |
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Aramis Madrigal wrote:Chris Johnson is a good point of comparison given that he has been timed both electronically and using the NFL hybrid method. He was ~.2 of a second slower in high school than an eventual Bronze medal winner in the 100m (he came in 4th at the state meet). Had he specialized in track rather than in football, he would have a decent chance of qualifying as an Olympic alternate or as a member of the 4x100. By any account, that is freakishly fast. Moreover, I repeat my assertion that NFL players have won ~20 gold medals in track and field events. There is no other league in the world that can make a similar claim.
No, Johnson was hand-timed and timed with and the NFL's supposed 'hybrid method'...which (big surprise) gave exactly the same result.
"Meantime, TSX was told that the times announced by the NFL again will be the result of a hybrid process -- with clocks started by hand and stopped electronically. This yields results that are slower than purely hand-held clockings and faster than fully automated times.
What's the big deal?
The disparity in results among those processes could create a culture shock with football players who, historically, believed elite runners are timed in the 4.3-second range.
The fastest time announced at the combine this century was 4.24 seconds by East Carolina (Tennessee Titans) running back Chris Johnson in 2008. That happened to be both his hand held and hybrid time.
Based on empirical data kept for the last few years, his fully automated time might have been as high as 4.49 seconds -- hardly elite in football circles."
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/24450816/nfl-combine-popular-40-shrouded-in-secrecy
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squatdog quadbox wrote:Aramis Madrigal wrote:Chris Johnson is a good point of comparison given that he has been timed both electronically and using the NFL hybrid method. He was ~.2 of a second slower in high school than an eventual Bronze medal winner in the 100m (he came in 4th at the state meet). Had he specialized in track rather than in football, he would have a decent chance of qualifying as an Olympic alternate or as a member of the 4x100. By any account, that is freakishly fast. Moreover, I repeat my assertion that NFL players have won ~20 gold medals in track and field events. There is no other league in the world that can make a similar claim. No, Johnson was hand-timed and timed with and the NFL's supposed 'hybrid method'...which (big surprise) gave exactly the same result. "Meantime, TSX was told that the times announced by the NFL again will be the result of a hybrid process -- with clocks started by hand and stopped electronically. This yields results that are slower than purely hand-held clockings and faster than fully automated times.
What's the big deal?
The disparity in results among those processes could create a culture shock with football players who, historically, believed elite runners are timed in the 4.3-second range.
The fastest time announced at the combine this century was 4.24 seconds by East Carolina (Tennessee Titans) running back Chris Johnson in 2008. That happened to be both his hand held and hybrid time.
Based on empirical data kept for the last few years, his fully automated time might have been as high as 4.49 seconds -- hardly elite in football circles."http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/24450816/nfl-combine-popular-40-shrouded-in-secrecy
Look at his Florida state meet results, where he was timed electronically, coming in fourth behind eventual Olympic medalist Walter Dix. Some of Johnson's electronically timed high school times are in line with the qualifying rounds of the Olympics. The guy is fast...
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squatdog quadbox wrote:Quote:Btw, bo jackson won back to back mvps from 2 different sports. Just beacuse you have not heard of him, doesnt make his achievement any less great. Two AMERICAN sports, one of which struggles to even exist outside of North America.
How many athletes from your country have gone back to back mvp in two of your national sports?
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squatdog quadbox wrote:Quote:Btw, bo jackson won back to back mvps from 2 different sports. Just beacuse you have not heard of him, doesnt make his achievement any less great. Two AMERICAN sports, one of which struggles to even exist outside of North America.
This is just flat wrong.
Baseball is popular in many places in South America and the Carribian, as well as in Japan.
If football was so unpopular in EU, why does the NFL have 2 regular season games in London every year, selling them out, with people coming from all over Europe to watch?
Don't be surprised if you see a London NFL team in the near future.
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Quote:. The fact that there is NFL Europe (used to be world league,) which yes is struggling, but exists.
LOL...the failed NFL Europe league collapsed back in 2007 after it lost the NFL close to half a BILLION over the course of two decades.
This represents the absolute very pinnacle of American Football in Britain:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-slExIIV8I
It's a collection of nerds, fatasses and Rugby rejects playing make-believe Madden on a deserted third division Soccer ground in front of a few dozen friends and family. No-one cares.
Quote:If football was so unpopular in EU, why does the NFL have 2 regular season games in London every year, selling them out, with people coming from all over Europe to watch?
American ex-pats and tourists coming from all over to watch, with the remainder being an assortment of pro-wrestling nerds and curious onlookers wanting to see a freakshow.
Quote:Don't be surprised if you see a London NFL team in the near future.
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squatdog quadbox wrote:Quote:I be rooting for this downunder worlder, but he is slow, can not speak "the language of football", and catches the ball with his body and not his hands-rugby style. LOL@ 'slow'... Only five Running Backs recorded a faster 40 yards time in the 2015 combine: http://www.nfl.com/combine/tracker#day=saturdayHILARIOUS.
Combine times are for recruits and in no way represent NFL speed. Pro NFL speeds are off your graph, everyone in the NFL is fast 4.5 is slow!
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One Eyed King wrote:squatdog quadbox wrote:Quote:Btw, bo jackson won back to back mvps from 2 different sports. Just beacuse you have not heard of him, doesnt make his achievement any less great. Two AMERICAN sports, one of which struggles to even exist outside of North America. This is just flat wrong. Baseball is popular in many places in South America and the Carribian, as well as in Japan. If football was so unpopular in EU, why does the NFL have 2 regular season games in London every year, selling them out, with people coming from all over Europe to watch? Don't be surprised if you see a London NFL team in the near future.
IF you don't know BO you do not know pro sports!
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Posted - 2015.04.08 06:05:00 -
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This is what our college kids will give you the Olympics!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u_c8Ni_z0U&feature=player_detailpage |
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Posted - 2015.04.08 06:12:00 -
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This is high school
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9qGJK_Ysps&feature=player_detailpage |
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Posted - 2015.04.08 06:35:00 -
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then there is Walter Payton, he played on the worst pro team ever, but in the end he became a champion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=3diOd5srLIs |
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GLOBAL RAGE wrote:squatdog quadbox wrote:Quote:I be rooting for this downunder worlder, but he is slow, can not speak "the language of football", and catches the ball with his body and not his hands-rugby style. LOL@ 'slow'... Only five Running Backs recorded a faster 40 yards time in the 2015 combine: http://www.nfl.com/combine/tracker#day=saturdayHILARIOUS. Combine times are for recruits and in no way represent NFL speed. Pro NFL speeds are off your graph, everyone in the NFL is fast 4.5 is slow!
Nearly all the players currently in the NFL have participated in a combine.
Only five Running Backs ran the 40 yards under 4.5 seconds in the 2015 NFL combine.
I'm not sure if it's humanly possible for you to be more wrong.
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GLOBAL RAGE wrote:To those of you who do not know, a Rugby superstar was taken by the San Francisco 49ers as a prospect.
In no way do I want to hate, but:
He is too slow- a 4.5 40yd (I ran better than that in HS)
He catches the ball with his body, not out stretched hands.
He has a language deficit in technical Football language
and everyone in the NFL is fast- and 70% are faster than this guy!!!
Sorry RUGBY, but you're hero is about to get blown up by the NFL!
OH and he runs upright like a target!
You assume too much. From what I have read, he is 6'2 and 226. The 4.5 speed is fine. His biggest problem will be learning a new game. The same would happen with an NFL player trying to play rugby. Different rules, different nuances to learn.
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Otrera Goddess wrote:The guy is an Australian legend and beast. Your NFL players wear padding because otherwise they will get "hurt" where as our rugby players do not. He is used to taking heavy knocks and shrugging them off. Just wait and see.... Just wait and see
Rugby is a fierce game. However, do not underestimate the sheer speed and size of an NFL player. They are larger and faster than the average rugby player. For the record, I think this rugby player is a fine athlete and may just very well stick in the NFL. He has the athletic ability to do so. His biggest hurdle will be learning new rules. The same would happen to an NFL player trying to play in rugby. Both would need to learn to adapt.
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Posted - 2015.04.08 22:14:00 -
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soulreaper73 wrote:Otrera Goddess wrote:The guy is an Australian legend and beast. Your NFL players wear padding because otherwise they will get "hurt" where as our rugby players do not. He is used to taking heavy knocks and shrugging them off. Just wait and see.... Just wait and see Rugby is a fierce game. However, do not underestimate the sheer speed and size of an NFL player. They are larger and faster than the average rugby player. For the record, I think this rugby player is a fine athlete and may just very well stick in the NFL. He has the athletic ability to do so. His biggest hurdle will be learning new rules. The same would happen to an NFL player trying to play in rugby. Both would need to learn to adapt.
The only NFL players drastically larger than their Rugby counterparts are linemen, whose role is to slowly waddle around the line of scrimmage slapping and shoved at other fatties for 5 seconds at a time. The players actually running around in the open field are virtually identical to Rugby players.
For example, the top rusher in the NFL is 5'10 and 215lb, while the top try-scorer in Super Rugby is 6'5 and 275lb:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38sCGMihKKw
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squatdog quadbox wrote:soulreaper73 wrote:Otrera Goddess wrote:The guy is an Australian legend and beast. Your NFL players wear padding because otherwise they will get "hurt" where as our rugby players do not. He is used to taking heavy knocks and shrugging them off. Just wait and see.... Just wait and see Rugby is a fierce game. However, do not underestimate the sheer speed and size of an NFL player. They are larger and faster than the average rugby player. For the record, I think this rugby player is a fine athlete and may just very well stick in the NFL. He has the athletic ability to do so. His biggest hurdle will be learning new rules. The same would happen to an NFL player trying to play in rugby. Both would need to learn to adapt. The only NFL players drastically larger than their Rugby counterparts are linemen, whose role is to slowly waddle around the line of scrimmage slapping and shoved at other fatties for 5 seconds at a time. The players actually running around in the open field are virtually identical to Rugby players. For example, the top rusher in the NFL is 5'10 and 215lb, while the top try-scorer in Super Rugby is 6'5 and 275lb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38sCGMihKKw
Even though I agree with your point, I must insult you for posting a vid of the crusaders. Cheifs all the way.
I find your lack of heaviness... disturbing...
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Posted - 2015.04.10 17:05:00 -
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squatdog quadbox wrote:soulreaper73 wrote:Otrera Goddess wrote:The guy is an Australian legend and beast. Your NFL players wear padding because otherwise they will get "hurt" where as our rugby players do not. He is used to taking heavy knocks and shrugging them off. Just wait and see.... Just wait and see Rugby is a fierce game. However, do not underestimate the sheer speed and size of an NFL player. They are larger and faster than the average rugby player. For the record, I think this rugby player is a fine athlete and may just very well stick in the NFL. He has the athletic ability to do so. His biggest hurdle will be learning new rules. The same would happen to an NFL player trying to play in rugby. Both would need to learn to adapt. The only NFL players drastically larger than their Rugby counterparts are linemen, whose role is to slowly waddle around the line of scrimmage slapping and shoved at other fatties for 5 seconds at a time. The players actually running around in the open field are virtually identical to Rugby players. For example, the top rusher in the NFL is 5'10 and 215lb, while the top try-scorer in Super Rugby is 6'5 and 275lb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38sCGMihKKw
wow dude, you clearly are clueless about the nfl. running backs by nature are barely 6 feet and that is your comparison. look at jj watt a d lineman, that dude is not slow and neither are most edge rushers. they are tall, big and fast. wide receivers are also on average these days around 6'4.
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Posted - 2015.04.10 19:53:00 -
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soulreaper73 wrote:squatdog quadbox wrote:soulreaper73 wrote:Otrera Goddess wrote:The guy is an Australian legend and beast. Your NFL players wear padding because otherwise they will get "hurt" where as our rugby players do not. He is used to taking heavy knocks and shrugging them off. Just wait and see.... Just wait and see Rugby is a fierce game. However, do not underestimate the sheer speed and size of an NFL player. They are larger and faster than the average rugby player. For the record, I think this rugby player is a fine athlete and may just very well stick in the NFL. He has the athletic ability to do so. His biggest hurdle will be learning new rules. The same would happen to an NFL player trying to play in rugby. Both would need to learn to adapt. The only NFL players drastically larger than their Rugby counterparts are linemen, whose role is to slowly waddle around the line of scrimmage slapping and shoved at other fatties for 5 seconds at a time. The players actually running around in the open field are virtually identical to Rugby players. For example, the top rusher in the NFL is 5'10 and 215lb, while the top try-scorer in Super Rugby is 6'5 and 275lb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38sCGMihKKw wow dude, you clearly are clueless about the nfl. running backs by nature are barely 6 feet and that is your comparison. look at jj watt a d lineman, that dude is not slow and neither are most edge rushers. they are tall, big and fast. wide receivers are also on average these days around 6'4.
Agreed.
Not all lineman are slow. They have to keep up with Linebackers who are often rather quick.
Being a Steelers fan, one of my favorite all time players is a man named Dermonti Dawson, who played Center, was large, and ran a 4.5 40.
The only players that fit your description of slow waddlers are Nose Tackles in a 3-4 scheme, whose entire job is to take 2 lineman out of the play by forcing a double team, and enabling the linebackers to move around unencumbered.
That is one thing that I like about American/Canadian Football, that a number of different body types and physical attributes can still be effective given the right systems.
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Posted - 2015.04.12 20:48:00 -
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squatdog quadbox wrote:GLOBAL RAGE wrote:squatdog quadbox wrote:Quote:I be rooting for this downunder worlder, but he is slow, can not speak "the language of football", and catches the ball with his body and not his hands-rugby style. LOL@ 'slow'... Only five Running Backs recorded a faster 40 yards time in the 2015 combine: http://www.nfl.com/combine/tracker#day=saturdayHILARIOUS. Combine times are for recruits and in no way represent NFL speed. Pro NFL speeds are off your graph, everyone in the NFL is fast 4.5 is slow! Nearly all the players currently in the NFL have participated in a combine. Only five Running Backs ran the 40 yards under 4.5 seconds in the 2015 NFL combine. I'm not sure if it's humanly possible for you to be more wrong.
I ran against many high school players that where under 4.5..lol, then at college they where all under 4.5
BO ran a 4.128 I think, You are very misinformed about anything to do with Football and that is not a code word for a f4ggot sport called soccer. |
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soulreaper73 wrote:GLOBAL RAGE wrote:To those of you who do not know, a Rugby superstar was taken by the San Francisco 49ers as a prospect.
In no way do I want to hate, but:
He is too slow- a 4.5 40yd (I ran better than that in HS)
He catches the ball with his body, not out stretched hands.
He has a language deficit in technical Football language
and everyone in the NFL is fast- and 70% are faster than this guy!!!
Sorry RUGBY, but you're hero is about to get blown up by the NFL!
OH and he runs upright like a target! You assume too much. From what I have read, he is 6'2 and 226. The 4.5 speed is fine. His biggest problem will be learning a new game. The same would happen with an NFL player trying to play rugby. Different rules, different nuances to learn.
If he even makes it to the practice squad, he'll be special teams returning punts in a constellation of other really fast guys-he runs "rugby style" which is straight up and down-or upright!
He is going to get blown-up! |
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Posted - 2015.04.12 21:04:00 -
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squatdog quadbox wrote:soulreaper73 wrote:Otrera Goddess wrote:The guy is an Australian legend and beast. Your NFL players wear padding because otherwise they will get "hurt" where as our rugby players do not. He is used to taking heavy knocks and shrugging them off. Just wait and see.... Just wait and see Rugby is a fierce game. However, do not underestimate the sheer speed and size of an NFL player. They are larger and faster than the average rugby player. For the record, I think this rugby player is a fine athlete and may just very well stick in the NFL. He has the athletic ability to do so. His biggest hurdle will be learning new rules. The same would happen to an NFL player trying to play in rugby. Both would need to learn to adapt. The only NFL players drastically larger than their Rugby counterparts are linemen, whose role is to slowly waddle around the line of scrimmage slapping and shoved at other fatties for 5 seconds at a time. The players actually running around in the open field are virtually identical to Rugby players. For example, the top rusher in the NFL is 5'10 and 215lb, while the top try-scorer in Super Rugby is 6'5 and 275lb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38sCGMihKKw
This guy is like "wearing a lot of body armor" in a fire fight, can't move and you are going to get shot at-a lot!
But if the whole other team is as big and faster than your "hero" then what-we got a couple of thousand of these guys here in the US that don't have "ENOUGH" to play NFL |
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Posted - 2015.04.12 21:34:00 -
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Fastest man in rugby is Carlin Isles ran a 6.83 60 yard.
My personal friend, because we played pop warner, and then High school and then College football against each other (Football, Basketball-he played track I played Baseball) his name is Michael Morris, now I'm just picking Mike because I know the quantity.
Mike played HS football at AYER high school in Ma. He then played at Syracuse University, if you follow rushing records and the NFL you may know his older brother Joe Morris, who broke Ernie Davis's and Joe Browns NCAA records and as well as setting the NFL rookie TD record at I think 22-but we're not talking about him.
HIs younger brother. Jamie Morris, broke all of the University of Michigan's rushing records-but we're not talking about him either.( if you know football look again)
Let's stick with Mike-a former strength and speed coach( under Gruden) for the World Champion Tampa Buccaneers and New England Patriots!
MIke, my friend, was so! much faster than Isles in the 60 he ran a 6.189-thats fast.
But this white 6'2 215lb guy caught him from behind-not once but twice!
Our dad's both wore the Green Barets.
If you don't know BO you don't know fast!
If you don't know BO then you realy need to watch this!
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Posted - 2015.04.12 22:32:00 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81d0lmW1h58&feature=player_detailpage#t=1159 |
GLOBAL RAGE
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Posted - 2015.04.12 22:34:00 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiU212Xbeps&feature=player_detailpage
An American Hero, both in life and death.
He gave the most on behalf of the least. |
GLOBAL RAGE
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Posted - 2015.04.12 23:10:00 -
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And FOOTBALL will never fail+
My hopes are on this guy-if hate follows then I stand as one that can say "I have never seen anything like this in my long life of playing and being a football fan"
Johhny football_this is the SEC!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSnT2C27o3I&feature=player_detailpage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=omrd7U5oMUI |
GLOBAL RAGE
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Posted - 2015.04.12 23:43:00 -
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Really enough of the BS.
All you Soccer players, all of you rugby players-come meet us on the field!!
You cannot, because you are and have been left behind in the genetic evolution of man.
In 1775 when our English cousins met us at Concord and Lexington you were already 2 inches shorter and 20 lbs weaker.
You Aussies are nothing more than genetic criminals.
So you say we should not field our African American brothers-you are racists!
Our African American brothers know who the crazy mutherfuckers are, we lead with the head-
Bring you're sport to the "new world" under the of the Olympic banner and as we showed the Russians hockey team- we will show you.
Fuq the Olympics and play real football! PUZZIES! |
Jonny D Buelle
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Posted - 2015.04.13 23:06:00 -
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Alright you need to learn your lesson. Here is the video that shows how bad Americans are at Rugby. USA vs New Zealand (my country). Full game for ya bro.
USA vs NZL
Oh the All Blacks are the best rugby union team in the world.
And if you are too lazy to watch the game here's the final score: 74-6, All Blacks won. It was 46-6 at half time and after that we sent in the new talent and reserves.
So keep going in about how USA will beat us in Rugby ya ****.
I find your lack of heaviness... disturbing...
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soulreaper73
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Posted - 2015.04.13 23:11:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:Alright you need to learn your lesson. Here is the video that shows how bad Americans are at Rugby. USA vs New Zealand (my country). Full game for ya bro. USA vs NZLOh the All Blacks are the best rugby union team in the world. And if you are too lazy to watch the game here's the final score: 74-6, All Blacks won. It was 46-6 at half time and after that we sent in the new talent and reserves. So keep going in about how USA will beat us in Rugby ya ****.
There was actually a person that said the usa would be the all blacks at rugby? that is just stupid on their part. the all blacks are the best team on the planet.
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Jonny D Buelle
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Posted - 2015.04.13 23:17:00 -
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soulreaper73 wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:Alright you need to learn your lesson. Here is the video that shows how bad Americans are at Rugby. USA vs New Zealand (my country). Full game for ya bro. USA vs NZLOh the All Blacks are the best rugby union team in the world. And if you are too lazy to watch the game here's the final score: 74-6, All Blacks won. It was 46-6 at half time and after that we sent in the new talent and reserves. So keep going in about how USA will beat us in Rugby ya ****. There was actually a person that said the usa would be the all blacks at rugby? that is just stupid on their part. the all blacks are the best team on the planet.
Damn straight, was really using my post to make a point that USA is a horrible rugby team when compares to the All Blacks, the Wallabies and the Springboks. Took me a while to find that game.
I will say this though, the French arnt that bad of a team when they don't cheat.
I find your lack of heaviness... disturbing...
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2015.04.13 23:25:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:soulreaper73 wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:Alright you need to learn your lesson. Here is the video that shows how bad Americans are at Rugby. USA vs New Zealand (my country). Full game for ya bro. USA vs NZLOh the All Blacks are the best rugby union team in the world. And if you are too lazy to watch the game here's the final score: 74-6, All Blacks won. It was 46-6 at half time and after that we sent in the new talent and reserves. So keep going in about how USA will beat us in Rugby ya ****. There was actually a person that said the usa would be the all blacks at rugby? that is just stupid on their part. the all blacks are the best team on the planet. Damn straight, was really using my post to make a point that USA is a horrible rugby team when compares to the All Blacks, the Wallabies and the Springboks. Took me a while to find that game. I will say this though, the French arnt that bad of a team when they don't cheat.
Its a matter of resources.
We are a large country, but it doesn't pay to be a rugby player over here.
Hell, it even pays better to be a soccer player over here, and soccer is no where near that popular.
Between baseball, basketball, football, soccer, hockey, and "olympic sports," there really is very little demand for rugby here.
If you think the best athletes in the highest earning sports, if given the incentive to learn and play rugby, couldn't at least be competitive with the best teams elsewhere, then you have grossly over simplified the thought experiment.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Jonny D Buelle
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Posted - 2015.04.13 23:33:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:soulreaper73 wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:Alright you need to learn your lesson. Here is the video that shows how bad Americans are at Rugby. USA vs New Zealand (my country). Full game for ya bro. USA vs NZLOh the All Blacks are the best rugby union team in the world. And if you are too lazy to watch the game here's the final score: 74-6, All Blacks won. It was 46-6 at half time and after that we sent in the new talent and reserves. So keep going in about how USA will beat us in Rugby ya ****. There was actually a person that said the usa would be the all blacks at rugby? that is just stupid on their part. the all blacks are the best team on the planet. Damn straight, was really using my post to make a point that USA is a horrible rugby team when compares to the All Blacks, the Wallabies and the Springboks. Took me a while to find that game. I will say this though, the French arnt that bad of a team when they don't cheat. Its a matter of resources. We are a large country, but it doesn't pay to be a rugby player over here. Hell, it even pays better to be a soccer player over here, and soccer is no where near that popular. Between baseball, basketball, football, soccer, hockey, and "olympic sports," there really is very little demand for rugby here. If you think the best athletes in the highest earning sports, if given the incentive to learn and play rugby, couldn't at least be competitive with the best teams elsewhere, then you have grossly over simplified the thought experiment.
Completely missed the point. Global Rage was banging on about how USA will dominate in Rugby, fool needed to learn his lesson.
I find your lack of heaviness... disturbing...
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2015.04.13 23:37:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:
Completely missed the point. Global Rage was banging on about how USA will dominate in Rugby, fool needed to learn his lesson.
Real fools never learn their lesson.
The best you can hope for is to not have their foolishness rub off on you.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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