DUST Search - Why Jarryd Hayne will fail in the NFL

soulreaper73 wrote:

squatdog quadbox wrote:

soulreaper73 wrote:

Otrera Goddess wrote:

The guy is an Australian legend and beast. Your NFL players wear padding because otherwise they will get "hurt" where as our rugby players do not.

He is used to taking heavy knocks and shrugging them off. Just wait and see.... Just wait and see Blink

Rugby is a fierce game. However, do not underestimate the sheer speed and size of an NFL player. They are larger and faster than the average rugby player. For the record, I think this rugby player is a fine athlete and may just very well stick in the NFL. He has the athletic ability to do so. His biggest hurdle will be learning new rules. The same would happen to an NFL player trying to play in rugby. Both would need to learn to adapt.

The only NFL players drastically larger than their Rugby counterparts are linemen, whose role is to slowly waddle around the line of scrimmage slapping and shoved at other fatties for 5 seconds at a time. The players actually running around in the open field are virtually identical to Rugby players.

For example, the top rusher in the NFL is 5'10 and 215lb, while the top try-scorer in Super Rugby is 6'5 and 275lb:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38sCGMihKKw

wow dude, you clearly are clueless about the nfl. running backs by nature are barely 6 feet and that is your comparison. look at jj watt a d lineman, that dude is not slow and neither are most edge rushers. they are tall, big and fast. wide receivers are also on average these days around 6'4.


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One Eyed King Nos Nothi 9095	Posted - 2015.04.06 01:50:00 - [1] - Quote My opinion is that you don't know what will happen. A 4.5 40 is nothing to be sneezed at. There are plenty of players at wide out who run that, and its about way more things than speed. According to at least one article, he has soft hands and is considered fast. Not to mention one of the 49ers defenders is a Brit discuss thrower who had never played football til he joined the team. Athletes are athletes, and the best can play at high levels in multiple sports with training and effort. You have no idea what he is capable of, and he wouldn't be the first rugby player to play in the NFL. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 9099	Posted - 2015.04.06 02:44:00 - [2] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: squatdog quadbox wrote: Quote: Emmitt Smith probably ran a 4.6 - 4.7 if you'd made him run on a Sunday morning before a game and he's the all time leading rusher. Emmit Smith was a 5'8, 190lb midget but possessed the ability, vision and intangible qualities that made him superior to NFL players much bigger and faster than him. 216, but he had one of the greatest lines in NFL history, a HOF QB, one of the best FBs ever, and a HOF WR on the edge to keep people honest. This is why I think he is over rated. Emmit Smith doesn't have anything on Barry Sanders (or Walter Payton and Jim Brown for that matter). Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 9142	Posted - 2015.04.07 00:09:00 - [3] - Quote squatdog quadbox wrote: Quote: Btw, bo jackson won back to back mvps from 2 different sports. Just beacuse you have not heard of him, doesnt make his achievement any less great. Two AMERICAN sports, one of which struggles to even exist outside of North America. This is just flat wrong. Baseball is popular in many places in South America and the Carribian, as well as in Japan. If football was so unpopular in EU, why does the NFL have 2 regular season games in London every year, selling them out, with people coming from all over Europe to watch? Don't be surprised if you see a London NFL team in the near future. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 9277	Posted - 2015.04.10 19:53:00 - [4] - Quote soulreaper73 wrote: squatdog quadbox wrote: soulreaper73 wrote: Otrera Goddess wrote: The guy is an Australian legend and beast. Your NFL players wear padding because otherwise they will get "hurt" where as our rugby players do not. He is used to taking heavy knocks and shrugging them off. Just wait and see.... Just wait and see Rugby is a fierce game. However, do not underestimate the sheer speed and size of an NFL player. They are larger and faster than the average rugby player. For the record, I think this rugby player is a fine athlete and may just very well stick in the NFL. He has the athletic ability to do so. His biggest hurdle will be learning new rules. The same would happen to an NFL player trying to play in rugby. Both would need to learn to adapt. The only NFL players drastically larger than their Rugby counterparts are linemen, whose role is to slowly waddle around the line of scrimmage slapping and shoved at other fatties for 5 seconds at a time. The players actually running around in the open field are virtually identical to Rugby players. For example, the top rusher in the NFL is 5'10 and 215lb, while the top try-scorer in Super Rugby is 6'5 and 275lb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38sCGMihKKw wow dude, you clearly are clueless about the nfl. running backs by nature are barely 6 feet and that is your comparison. look at jj watt a d lineman, that dude is not slow and neither are most edge rushers. they are tall, big and fast. wide receivers are also on average these days around 6'4. Agreed. Not all lineman are slow. They have to keep up with Linebackers who are often rather quick. Being a Steelers fan, one of my favorite all time players is a man named Dermonti Dawson, who played Center, was large, and ran a 4.5 40. The only players that fit your description of slow waddlers are Nose Tackles in a 3-4 scheme, whose entire job is to take 2 lineman out of the play by forcing a double team, and enabling the linebackers to move around unencumbered. That is one thing that I like about American/Canadian Football, that a number of different body types and physical attributes can still be effective given the right systems. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 9384	Posted - 2015.04.13 23:25:00 - [5] - Quote Jonny D Buelle wrote: soulreaper73 wrote: Jonny D Buelle wrote: Alright you need to learn your lesson. Here is the video that shows how bad Americans are at Rugby. USA vs New Zealand (my country). Full game for ya bro. USA vs NZL Oh the All Blacks are the best rugby union team in the world. And if you are too lazy to watch the game here's the final score: 74-6, All Blacks won. It was 46-6 at half time and after that we sent in the new talent and reserves. So keep going in about how USA will beat us in Rugby ya ****. There was actually a person that said the usa would be the all blacks at rugby? that is just stupid on their part. the all blacks are the best team on the planet. Damn straight, was really using my post to make a point that USA is a horrible rugby team when compares to the All Blacks, the Wallabies and the Springboks. Took me a while to find that game. I will say this though, the French arnt that bad of a team when they don't cheat. Its a matter of resources. We are a large country, but it doesn't pay to be a rugby player over here. Hell, it even pays better to be a soccer player over here, and soccer is no where near that popular. Between baseball, basketball, football, soccer, hockey, and "olympic sports," there really is very little demand for rugby here. If you think the best athletes in the highest earning sports, if given the incentive to learn and play rugby, couldn't at least be competitive with the best teams elsewhere, then you have grossly over simplified the thought experiment. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 9385	Posted - 2015.04.13 23:37:00 - [6] - Quote Jonny D Buelle wrote: Completely missed the point. Global Rage was banging on about how USA will dominate in Rugby, fool needed to learn his lesson. Real fools never learn their lesson. The best you can hope for is to not have their foolishness rub off on you. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.