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squatdog quadbox
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Posted - 2015.04.06 01:37:00 -
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GLOBAL RAGE wrote:To those of you who do not know, a Rugby superstar was taken by the San Francisco 49ers as a prospect.
In no way do I want to hate, but:
He is too slow- a 4.5 40yd (I ran better than that in HS) He catches the ball with his body, not out stretched hands. He has a language deficit in technical Football language and everyone in the NFL is fast- and 70% are faster than this guy!!!
Sorry RUGBY, but you're hero is about to get blown up by the NFL!
OH and he runs upright like a target!
Jarryd Hayne's 40 yard time would have put him in the TOP TEN Running Backs at the most recent combine.
Your alleged '40 yard time' was hand-timed BS. Just like all the other highschool '40 yard times';
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Jonny D Buelle
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Posted - 2015.04.06 01:45:00 -
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GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:GLOBAL RAGE wrote:
NO.
on the corners every play is a full sprint, and everyone is a world class sprinter-we'll start there
Bro, your argument has been proved invalid on multiple points and I'm done trying to convince a yank that NFL is an inferior sport. I do need to respond you your YANK! as I find it highly offensive and is racially arrogant in that it states that all people living in North America would considered themselves American-when in deed they do not, because they are agnostic to their own nationality and sovereign governance...lol they are fools If you think that I am a common North American then I will have to oblige. I am a Yankee doodle dandee, My family is from New England, Boston specifically and you need to be educated. In 1775 we were 2 inches taller and 20lbs bigger than you, you are nothing more than saxon's and associated criminals. When Tudor took hold and the Puritans arose-then the mass migration of we Normans took place-We are Norman, Templar, Puritans: suck it! Do you like how I can say all that? I know since your mother was a sheep and your dad was a welsh probate...lol
That moment when I'm from New Zealand (founded by a Dutch, colonized by poor english settlers) and actually Irish, German and Maori no trace of Welsh in my ancestry thank God.
Maybe you need to do some research.
I find your lack of heaviness... disturbing...
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Thor Odinson42
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Posted - 2015.04.06 01:49:00 -
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Otrera Goddess wrote:The guy is an Australian legend and beast. Your NFL players wear padding because otherwise they will get "hurt" where as our rugby players do not. He is used to taking heavy knocks and shrugging them off. Just wait and see.... Just wait and see
The padding leads to more violent collisions.
The NFL benefits from a few hundred years of terrible American history where a byproduct was genetic breeding. It's not even close. You could give a rugby coach 2 weeks with his choice of NFL players and they'd make the best rugby team in the world look stupid.
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One Eyed King
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Posted - 2015.04.06 01:50:00 -
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My opinion is that you don't know what will happen.
A 4.5 40 is nothing to be sneezed at. There are plenty of players at wide out who run that, and its about way more things than speed.
According to at least one article, he has soft hands and is considered fast.
Not to mention one of the 49ers defenders is a Brit discuss thrower who had never played football til he joined the team.
Athletes are athletes, and the best can play at high levels in multiple sports with training and effort.
You have no idea what he is capable of, and he wouldn't be the first rugby player to play in the NFL.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Wasten
Anti Her0s
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Posted - 2015.04.06 01:53:00 -
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Wtf has any of this shite got to do with dust? feck off to the locker room if you want to talk about fagball. |
squatdog quadbox
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Posted - 2015.04.06 01:53:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Otrera Goddess wrote:The guy is an Australian legend and beast. Your NFL players wear padding because otherwise they will get "hurt" where as our rugby players do not. He is used to taking heavy knocks and shrugging them off. Just wait and see.... Just wait and see The padding leads to more violent collisions. The NFL benefits from a few hundred years of terrible American history where a byproduct was genetic breeding. It's not even close. You could give a rugby coach 2 weeks with his choice of NFL players and they'd make the best rugby team in the world look stupid.
Even with six months of training, your mythical superstar team would fall to pieces after the first 20 minutes,
American Football players simply aren't exceptional compared to elite athletes from other sports. At least not to the point where they possess some kind of innate advantage.
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Thor Odinson42
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Posted - 2015.04.06 01:54:00 -
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squatdog quadbox wrote:GLOBAL RAGE wrote:To those of you who do not know, a Rugby superstar was taken by the San Francisco 49ers as a prospect.
In no way do I want to hate, but:
He is too slow- a 4.5 40yd (I ran better than that in HS) He catches the ball with his body, not out stretched hands. He has a language deficit in technical Football language and everyone in the NFL is fast- and 70% are faster than this guy!!!
Sorry RUGBY, but you're hero is about to get blown up by the NFL!
OH and he runs upright like a target! Jarryd Hayne's 40 yard time was faster than most of the Running Backs at the recent combine: http://www.nfl.com/combine/tracker#day=saturdayYour alleged '40 yard time' was hand-timed BS. Just like all the other highschool '40 yard times'; This is just embarrassing. Agreed on the 40 time. Most of the RBs train for months to get their 40 time honed for the combine. At their best most hope to get in the 4.5s.
Emmitt Smith probably ran a 4.6 - 4.7 if you'd made him run on a Sunday morning before a game and he's the all time leading rusher.
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squatdog quadbox
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Posted - 2015.04.06 02:01:00 -
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Quote:Emmitt Smith probably ran a 4.6 - 4.7 if you'd made him run on a Sunday morning before a game and he's the all time leading rusher.
Emmit Smith was a 5'8, 190lb midget but possessed the ability, vision and intangible qualities that made him superior to NFL players much bigger and faster than him. |
Thor Odinson42
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Posted - 2015.04.06 02:02:00 -
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squatdog quadbox wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Otrera Goddess wrote:The guy is an Australian legend and beast. Your NFL players wear padding because otherwise they will get "hurt" where as our rugby players do not. He is used to taking heavy knocks and shrugging them off. Just wait and see.... Just wait and see The padding leads to more violent collisions. The NFL benefits from a few hundred years of terrible American history where a byproduct was genetic breeding. It's not even close. You could give a rugby coach 2 weeks with his choice of NFL players and they'd make the best rugby team in the world look stupid. Even with six months of training, your mythical superstar team would fall to pieces after the first 20 minutes, American Football players simply aren't exceptional compared to elite athletes from other sports. At least not to the point where they possess some kind of innate advantage.
They'd break the scoreboard in 20 minutes. |
squatdog quadbox
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Posted - 2015.04.06 02:07:00 -
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Quote:They'd break the scoreboard in 20 minutes.
They'd walk off the field and let the other team score unopposed?
Sounds about right. |
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Thor Odinson42
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Posted - 2015.04.06 02:18:00 -
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I just watched the dude's highlight reel. He's a baller for sure. But I'm sorry to break it to you, those dudes he is playing against are scrubs to the tenth power in comparison to what he's about to be facing.
I'll actually be rooting for him because it's a cool story.
There are high schools in Texas that would be harder for him to run through than that crap. Is that a real professional league that people pay to go watch? Can you guys get NFL Sunday Ticket in Australia? If so, you should get it. There are much fewer lumbering, slow white dudes with try hard looks on their faces. |
Thor Odinson42
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Posted - 2015.04.06 02:21:00 -
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squatdog quadbox wrote:Quote:Emmitt Smith probably ran a 4.6 - 4.7 if you'd made him run on a Sunday morning before a game and he's the all time leading rusher. Emmit Smith was a 5'8, 190lb midget but possessed the ability, vision and intangible qualities that made him superior to NFL players much bigger and faster than him.
216, but he had one of the greatest lines in NFL history, a HOF QB, one of the best FBs ever, and a HOF WR on the edge to keep people honest. |
One Eyed King
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Posted - 2015.04.06 02:44:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:squatdog quadbox wrote:Quote:Emmitt Smith probably ran a 4.6 - 4.7 if you'd made him run on a Sunday morning before a game and he's the all time leading rusher. Emmit Smith was a 5'8, 190lb midget but possessed the ability, vision and intangible qualities that made him superior to NFL players much bigger and faster than him. 216, but he had one of the greatest lines in NFL history, a HOF QB, one of the best FBs ever, and a HOF WR on the edge to keep people honest. This is why I think he is over rated.
Emmit Smith doesn't have anything on Barry Sanders (or Walter Payton and Jim Brown for that matter).
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Thor Odinson42
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Posted - 2015.04.06 02:59:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:squatdog quadbox wrote:Quote:Emmitt Smith probably ran a 4.6 - 4.7 if you'd made him run on a Sunday morning before a game and he's the all time leading rusher. Emmit Smith was a 5'8, 190lb midget but possessed the ability, vision and intangible qualities that made him superior to NFL players much bigger and faster than him. 216, but he had one of the greatest lines in NFL history, a HOF QB, one of the best FBs ever, and a HOF WR on the edge to keep people honest. This is why I think he is over rated. Emmit Smith doesn't have anything on Barry Sanders (or Walter Payton and Jim Brown for that matter).
I saw him rush for 150 yards with a separated shoulder vs the NY Giants with a Division title and 1st RND bye on the line. There have been many backs more talented, but so far none have been able to do it as long and as consistently as Emmitt.
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squatdog quadbox
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Posted - 2015.04.06 04:05:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:I just watched the dude's highlight reel. He's a baller for sure. But I'm sorry to break it to you, those dudes he is playing against are scrubs to the tenth power in comparison to what he's about to be facing.
I'll actually be rooting for him because it's a cool story.
There are high schools in Texas that would be harder for him to run through than that crap. Is that a real professional league that people pay to go watch? Can you guys get NFL Sunday Ticket in Australia? If so, you should get it. There are much fewer lumbering, slow white dudes with try hard looks on their faces.
Why yes, just look at the weak, soft tackling in the NRL:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq2Xb3BQZyY
Also, the champion Seahawks team copied Rugby tackling to create literally the most dominant defence in the history of the NFL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HihjPApzCg&list=LLJdeefD4edpCrAx1MT3KzNA&index=77
Maybe you should contact Pete Carroll and tell him that he's wrong and that you know better?
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Nocturnal Soul
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Posted - 2015.04.06 04:44:00 -
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The NFL has better athletes all around due to its aggressive nature of always having to be the best... It will always have the strongest,fastest, and biggest players out there buuut its boring as hell to watch and that's why rugby is cooler.
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
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P14GU3
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Posted - 2015.04.06 05:46:00 -
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Your crazy if you think NFL players aren't some of the biggest, strongest, fastest athletes in the world. They may not have the endurance of other sports such as soccer or rugby, but watch a defense get pounded for 4 quarters straight and tell me they dont have heart. I'll call you a liar, because I've done it.
Statistically speaking, you have a snowballs chance in H311 of making it to the NFL. These guys are literally the top 1% of athletes in the world.
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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squatdog quadbox
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Posted - 2015.04.06 06:31:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Your crazy if you think NFL players aren't some of the biggest, strongest, fastest athletes in the world. They may not have the endurance of other sports such as soccer or rugby, but watch a defense get pounded for 4 quarters straight and tell me they dont have heart. I'll call you a liar, because I've done it.
Statistically speaking, you have a snowballs chance in H311 of making it to the NFL. These guys are literally the top 1% of athletes in the world.
Edit: also iirc football has the youngest average death age of any sport but boxing/mma. So I wouldn't call the pads "pussified."
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P14GU3
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Posted - 2015.04.06 08:36:00 -
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squatdog quadbox wrote:P14GU3 wrote:Your crazy if you think NFL players aren't some of the biggest, strongest, fastest athletes in the world. They may not have the endurance of other sports such as soccer or rugby, but watch a defense get pounded for 4 quarters straight and tell me they dont have heart. I'll call you a liar, because I've done it.
Statistically speaking, you have a snowballs chance in H311 of making it to the NFL. These guys are literally the top 1% of athletes in the world.
Edit: also iirc football has the youngest average death age of any sport but boxing/mma. So I wouldn't call the pads "pussified." LOL...American Football struggles to even exist as a sport outside North America. It's the top 1% of 5% of the world's population. Yet there is nfl world league to recruit from outside of america, and also apparently rugby. Does it make you upset that the nfl uses your favorite sport the same way they use their B-league?
'Sault AK.0 - Logi AK.0 - Logi GK.0 - Scout GK.0 - 'Mando MK.0 - Masshole in every sense of the word.
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squatdog quadbox
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Posted - 2015.04.06 09:37:00 -
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Quote:Yet there is nfl world league to recruit from outside of america, and also apparently rugby. Does it make you upset that the nfl uses your favorite sport the same way they use their B-league?
LOL@'NFL World League'...
Even in the supposed hotbed of Germany, American Football is a tiny niche sport played by a fringe of nerds and fatasses on deserted third division Soccer grounds. No-one cares.
Quote:Also, in terms of population, only two countries beat out the states; China and India. We probably have states with higher population than whatever island country you hail from. [/quote]
America makes up less than 5% of the world's population. |
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Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2015.04.06 09:55:00 -
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GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Let's get back to Rugby I just want to make it very clear that there is Rugby and there is Rugby League.
Jarryd Haynes comes from the latter. I was extremely confused when you suggested he played Rugby.
Please; educate yourself, thou foolish, untutored American.
Nobody panic! My 'like' button is fixed!
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ivor 59
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Posted - 2015.04.06 10:13:00 -
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http://youtu.be/12ruyY7hq5k Rugby union is the 1 true sport |
Krixus Flux
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Posted - 2015.04.06 10:38:00 -
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Bro, let me see you in a scrum with no pads on. Where you get kicked and scraped with cleats at the bottom of it.
You silly Americans.
Saying what's on people's minds
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RemingtonBeaver
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Posted - 2015.04.06 10:59:00 -
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The overseers are asleep!
Quick talk about...football?!?!?!??
Unleash the BIMBOBOT!
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SOGZ PANDA
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Posted - 2015.04.06 11:10:00 -
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Otrera Goddess wrote:The guy is an Australian legend and beast. Your NFL players wear padding because otherwise they will get "hurt" where as our rugby players do not. He is used to taking heavy knocks and shrugging them off. Just wait and see.... Just wait and see
I wouldn't call Jarryd Hayne a 'legend' per say.
He is a real game changer and knows how to run a ball when given the space. But NFL is a totally different ball game. He can run the ball through defenders 1v1, but the realistic chance of that happening in any NFL position is non existent. He would have to learn how to truck and trailer with O Liners or wait for blocks, because he isn't THAT strong to take on 3/4 nfl defenders at once, who are more savvy to the idea of just grabbing his jersey to pull him down.
Those are the things he wouldn't understand coming from a rugby background.
p.s I hate him cause he's from NSW
"Why should we make a story about you?"
"Cause I'm so f*ing good!"
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ReGnYuM
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.06 11:35:00 -
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I personally train Legs with a retired 27 year old CFL player. The man is 6'7 and 270lbs and easily under 10 percent body fat. I cannot imagine a CFL player in their trainning prime, let alone a NFL player!!!
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squatdog quadbox
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Posted - 2015.04.06 12:01:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:I personally train Legs with a retired 27 year old CFL player. The man is 6'7 and 270lbs and easily under 10 percent body fat. I cannot imagine a CFL player in their trainning prime, let alone a NFL player!!!
Your Rugby boy hero is going to get ****** up
Who is the single strongest player in the NFL, according to the NFL's own metrics?
Oh that's right, it's New Zealand-born former Rugby player Stephen Paea. Whoops.
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GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.04.06 12:34:00 -
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squatdog quadbox wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I just watched the dude's highlight reel. He's a baller for sure. But I'm sorry to break it to you, those dudes he is playing against are scrubs to the tenth power in comparison to what he's about to be facing.
I'll actually be rooting for him because it's a cool story.
There are high schools in Texas that would be harder for him to run through than that crap. Is that a real professional league that people pay to go watch? Can you guys get NFL Sunday Ticket in Australia? If so, you should get it. There are much fewer lumbering, slow white dudes with try hard looks on their faces. Why yes, just look at the weak, soft tackling in the NRL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq2Xb3BQZyYAlso, the champion Seahawks team copied Rugby tackling to create literally the most dominant defence in the history of the NFL. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HihjPApzCg&list=LLJdeefD4edpCrAx1MT3KzNA&index=77Maybe you should contact Pete Carroll and tell him that he's wrong and that you know better?
Rugby tackling..lol!
I cannot watch the TUBE due to copyright rules, but this is a reach of cosmic dimensions-"rugby style" means not using your head to avoid head injuries so it "safer"...lol
The Seahawks have a great "D", but there have been others that where "more dominant" and some of them where old school and a hell of a lot more violent-the NFL has toned it down over the last 20 years.
I be rooting for this downunder worlder, but he is slow, cant' speak football, and catches the ball with his body and not his hands-rugby style. |
Knight Soiaire
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Posted - 2015.04.06 12:42:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:The NFL has better athletes all around due to its aggressive nature of always having to be the best... It will always have the strongest,fastest, and biggest players out there buuut its boring as hell to watch and that's why rugby is cooler. Yeah, the flow of NFL games are completely ******. Rugby is just a better sport to watch, a Rugby team of NFL players would give any other team a good match, but they'd probably still lose to experience. |
GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.04.06 12:46:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:The NFL has better athletes all around due to its aggressive nature of always having to be the best... It will always have the strongest,fastest, and biggest players out there buuut its boring as hell to watch and that's why rugby is cooler. Yeah, the flow of NFL games are completely ******. Rugby is just a better sport to watch, a Rugby team of NFL players would give any other team a good match, but they'd probably still lose to experience.
Well, I'm interested because with the Olympics and the attention to rugby it will garner here in the US, there will be some players who do not have "enough" to play in the NFL that will cross over-we have thousands of College players, that are bigger, stronger and a lot faster than any thing you guys have ever seen. |
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