seriously???

Forum bluedots.....this is what we have to face off against when discussing topics about balance.

People always talk about fighting at range with the cal...

Cal's role is expected to never go near objectives, huh? Plus, name a better and more damaging (to shields) rifle than the SCR @ range.

Fun thing to note is that the scrambler rifle has the same optimal range as the rail rifle and the laser trumps the rail rifle at distance all day long and shares aswell the same damage profile like the scrambler. In reality the amarr weapons and suits are the best for long range engagements and their DPS up close doesnt really suffer from this (except for laser rifles they blow up close).

Amarr assault with assault scrambler> cal. assault with assault rail rifle
amarr assault with laser rifle> cal. assault with rail rifle
amarr assault with scrambler rifle> both variants mentioned above if you are a good shot.

In my opinion lower the damage profile on scrambler rifles. And add rate of fire increasing modules that go into the lowslots.

I don't understand how the 1 suit that's meant for medium/long range fights is the weakest, puts out the least amount of DMG and has the most kick out of all the rifles, last I checked medium/long range weapons were all precision and accuracy.. Let's take a look shall we? ASCR does more DMG than the ARR and has no recoil with about 300 rof more Not to mention the ARR also has a spool time.. 1 shot from a charged Scr will get most armor suits down to 50% or less hp and nearly 1 shots all caldari suits.. "You have better recharge" okay so say I put 80 on my suit with a 2 second delay, you put 20-30 reps on yours and drop a triage or hey a compact now your at 70-110 reps a second with no delay and taking DMG doesn't stop the Reps cuz they don't have a delay..And that example is only 1 triage you can have 2 out at a time so you can get even more reps with no delay.

i have 8 proto suit 0 of them are caldari.

its not that i always train into OP suits, it just that i refuse to train into suits that are obviously garbo.

Didn't know you couldn't fit an AScR on a CalAss... Dam.

Every time I come back, shields seem to less and less effective. What the kitten CCP? For Caldari this is how we survive. It seems every kind of weapon tears down my shields nowadays. Is anybody else seeing this matter the same?

How would you make shields better?

How would you make shields better?

RR seems fine to me. Damn AScR on the other hand.......

AScR seems fine to me. Damn RR on the other hand.......

When caldari suits are running ASCR's then you know somethings wrong.. I mean even scouts are running them now

I just did a day using my Calass load out, with a AScR. Yes, I can say for sure, that weapon is broken and OP. My kills went up, but my deaths stayed the same. So, with this logic, it is definitely my suit that is broken also. I've also been running MinAss, and my kills go up, and my deaths go down. It's not complicated to figure out

AScR was buffed for this armor meta, nuff said.

Or maybe the Caldari just plain suck.

Or maybe the Caldari just plain suck.

We just need a damag threshold to prevent little amounts of damage stopping regen.

I feel with you, since I have a, much lower SP, caldari toon aswell, and I hate how a scrambler anihilates most of my sp in a split second. However, the Caldari doctrine in EVE, that has been the base for the caldari suits, relies on long range weapons, with high damage.
But, in EVE, there are shield transporters, to compensate in fleet fights. So what we need, to make shield tanking much more viable, is a shield transporter (rep tool) to give the caldaris direct support. And maybe even a slight buff in shield base stats.

The changing of the scrambler profiles I suggested further up, will also help to make shields more viable, and normalize these values with their direct opponents stats for projectile weapons.

Just my two ISK. Take it or leave it.

In all honesty, watching Caldari get neutered ridiculously is one of my main reasons why I left Dust alone for an extended period of time. I pushed all my cores to lvl 5. Made sure my shield and regen were at 5. As time passed Cal tech became just unreliable in the field. Math really does nothing for the actual. Before I stopped playing, I was told that Cal are long range fighters. That they were quick hitters. Basically a Muhammad Ali styled merc. So I tried that, despite battles being in your face. Oh look, they say my RR is too strong and needs more kick, so guess what? I got a wild stallion in my hands that isn't tamed enough for long range which forces me to draw nearer. Oh my shields! Now they are depleting fast because I'm getting into the thick of things. I am told to hide and recover but suppressive fire basically mutes me. Shield regens, stick neck out for half a second in the twitch shooter battlefield, forced to regen again while enemy pushes forward to gain ground and corner.

It is the unfortunate truth. The Caldari are a minority and their support system on the forums mirror such. Cal tech is hysterically limited. We had decent weapons that gave us a chance and the forums screamed in horror. How ironic since our Cal brothers and sisters faced weapons that chewed our defenses like piranhas and we dealt with that for so long. God forbid we get an edge. CalSen comes along and oh no, its far too damaging yet a GalSen was Freddy Kreuger stalking you. Anything Caldari has been reduced to punchlines. So I had to stop playing for a while. I took my rite of passage and kept pushing. Then It was our time to shine and they couldn't swallow the same pill.

There's no reason why Caldari should be gimped so horrifically. Math doesn't do it any justice. The armor based majority on the forums don't do it any justice. The false application of long range fighter doesn't mean squat in the battlefield. Make the shields tougher. Lower the ridiculous kick on RR. Tell the naysayers to HTFU. Caldari shouldn't have been gimped because GD couldn't handle what they dish out.

False.
Arkena showed the math a while ago, the RR still does a healthy chunk more DPS against armor than a Duvolle does.

This is what I'm talking about right here. A prime example of how it's hurting the player base. I'm not saying we should be OP. But Cal suits need a buff. It's close to useless at this point and just terrible. Not to mention people are arguing that AR and ScR were buffed for this meta level. Whatever a meta level is