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sir RAVEN WING Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 3135	Posted - 2015.03.08 03:25:00 - [1] - Quote They are meant to go 33/3 and be immune to bullets and PLCs. *Fuck the silver, let's go for the gold* . *I am what haunts your dreams at night.*
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 578	Posted - 2015.03.08 03:33:00 - [2] - Quote But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: I can take heavies down with an Adv. ScR and breach SMG combo pretty darn good actually. Mayhaps you should try not standing directly in front of the MINIGUN while shooting them? The new C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y, I'm that Heavy you warn your team about <3 -Heavy/Logi/Assault/Scout-
Crimson ShieId Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 2057	Posted - 2015.03.08 03:34:00 - [3] - Quote I'm still more scared of the cloaked shotgun scout. Least the heavy can be easily RE'd... I still blame Mr. Mustard for making me fear them... I want to punch.
VAHZZ 760	Posted - 2015.03.08 03:35:00 - [4] - Quote Dude, I die all the time to dam shotty scouts. Even when I go 3 complex armor and 1 complex rep, I still get 2-3hko. *The supreme art of war, is to subdue the enemy without fighting*.
sir RAVEN WING Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 3135	Posted - 2015.03.08 03:42:00 - [5] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: I can take heavies down with an Adv. ScR and breach SMG combo pretty darn good actually. Mayhaps you should try not standing directly in front of the MINIGUN while shooting them? Actually I got shot 30m away. In a shield tank... While my PLC shot phased through him... He went 33/3 that match, I wouldn't have pointed it out should it have been anything else. 4 heavies that game, their scores were: 33/3 29/4 18/0 24/1 Only 1 logi in the whole game. I went positive, barely. 9/8. Shotgun scout: Killed before he can reach heavy RE: See above Cloak scout: Seen instantly while cloaked. (Poor guy... I know how annoying it is.) *Fuck the silver, let's go for the gold* . *I am what haunts your dreams at night.*
DAAAA BEAST Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 880	Posted - 2015.03.08 03:44:00 - [6] - Quote Do my eyes deceive me ? You're in my corp ! Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaay !!!!!!!!!!! Also let me guess , Forced Death convinced you ? Gave him the personnel manager task and look how well he recruits ! What a beast ! Hope to play with you next time I get on :) *My New YT Channel !* Join Gû¦Corrosive Synergy Gùä
Eruditus 920 Nemo Malus Felix 1404	Posted - 2015.03.08 03:48:00 - [7] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: I can take heavies down with an Adv. ScR and breach SMG combo pretty darn good actually. Mayhaps you should try not standing directly in front of the MINIGUN while shooting them? Ah yes, the time honored argument. Don't stand in front of the shotgun or CR. How ignorant does that sound? "Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
D4GG3R KILL-EM-QUICK 818	Posted - 2015.03.08 03:49:00 - [8] - Quote Probably doing it wrong I'm pretty plain. I watch anime for the boobs
sir RAVEN WING Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 3136	Posted - 2015.03.08 03:53:00 - [9] - Quote DAAAA BEAST wrote: Do my eyes deceive me ? You're in my corp ! Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaay !!!!!!!!!!! Also let me guess , Forced Death convinced you ? Gave him the personnel manager task and look how well he recruits ! What a beast ! Hope to play with you next time I get on :) Actually, no. I came in on my own agenda. *Fuck the silver, let's go for the gold* . *I am what haunts your dreams at night.*
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 579	Posted - 2015.03.08 04:03:00 - [10] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: I can take heavies down with an Adv. ScR and breach SMG combo pretty darn good actually. Mayhaps you should try not standing directly in front of the MINIGUN while shooting them? Actually I got shot 30m away. In a shield tank... While my PLC shot phased through him... He went 33/3 that match, I wouldn't have pointed it out should it have been anything else. 4 heavies that game, their scores were: 33/3 29/4 18/0 24/1 Only 1 logi in the whole game. I went positive, barely. 9/8. Shotgun scout: Killed before he can reach heavy RE: See above Cloak scout: Seen instantly while cloaked. (Poor guy... I know how annoying it is.) Clearly your doing something wrong. Also you should bring friends along. The new C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y, I'm that Heavy you warn your team about <3 -Heavy/Logi/Assault/Scout-

Operative 1174 Uuali Y.A.M.A.H 472	Posted - 2015.03.08 04:08:00 - [11] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: I can take heavies down with an Adv. ScR and breach SMG combo pretty darn good actually. Mayhaps you should try not standing directly in front of the MINIGUN while shooting them? Yes, I do so like how this game is designed around long range combat. Why just the other day I capped an objective by just scoping in with my sniper rifle from the redline. No, not one bit of beelining, arena crap play like Quake and Unreal of old. Nope, not one bit. Death is a serious business. So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
DeadlyAztec11 Defenders of the Helghast Dream 7878	Posted - 2015.03.08 04:13:00 - [12] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: Here's the thing though, every other suit is way easier to kill with those ' counters ' you listed than heavies. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 579	Posted - 2015.03.08 04:15:00 - [13] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: I can take heavies down with an Adv. ScR and breach SMG combo pretty darn good actually. Mayhaps you should try not standing directly in front of the MINIGUN while shooting them? Ah yes, the time honored argument. Don't stand in front of the shotgun or CR. How ignorant does that sound? It sounds very ignorant. Since a shotgun and CR are usually attached to something moving very fast and a HMG is attached to something usually stationary or slow. Honestly, I kill most people with my HMG by them running directly into the end of the barrel, hence the "time honored" argument. Like the winds of time will carry them past my barrage of bullets, then they wonder wtf could have went wrong and why they didn't kill me. I've had more then enough people sneak up behind me, or kill me from a safe distance, the smart thing to do. Charging a bull head on is stupid and you shouldn't question why you got your *** kicked from doing it. The effective range of the HMG is outdone by all Assault weapons, for a good reason. Your screen tells you the distance from me to you as well. The new C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y, I'm that Heavy you warn your team about <3 -Heavy/Logi/Assault/Scout-
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 579	Posted - 2015.03.08 04:20:00 - [14] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: Here's the thing though, every other suit is way easier to kill with those ' counters ' you listed than heavies. And every other suit is faster and can carry equipment. I could understand everyone crying about it if the suit didn't have any drawbacks as everyone makes it seem. Not to mention the heavy suit's scan, you should almost always be able to see where it is. Have you noticed there are more then enough people out there who can kill a heavy suit with ease? Maybe you should take a minute to analyze what they are doing right. I actually run Min/Amarr assault, Min scout, I can kill a heavy fairly easy in each one. I really don't see what the big deal is o.O The new C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y, I'm that Heavy you warn your team about <3 -Heavy/Commando/Logi/Assault/Scout-
sir RAVEN WING Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 3138	Posted - 2015.03.08 04:26:00 - [15] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: I can take heavies down with an Adv. ScR and breach SMG combo pretty darn good actually. Mayhaps you should try not standing directly in front of the MINIGUN while shooting them? Actually I got shot 30m away. In a shield tank... While my PLC shot phased through him... He went 33/3 that match, I wouldn't have pointed it out should it have been anything else. 4 heavies that game, their scores were: 33/3 29/4 18/0 24/1 Only 1 logi in the whole game. I went positive, barely. 9/8. Shotgun scout: Killed before he can reach heavy RE: See above Cloak scout: Seen instantly while cloaked. (Poor guy... I know how annoying it is.) Clearly your doing something wrong. Also you should bring friends along. I had a squad, who was doing everything they could, but it didn't work. I used a ADV CR, a PRO ACR, ADV PLC, ADV MD, PRO RR, PRO ARR. None of it worked, they simply retreated. The only thing that I saw kill a Heavy was my PLC shots in a crowded room. I was then killed my a HMG. I am getting exceptionally annoyed with the 'Heavies are fine going 33/3' people. *To anger a calm man like me is a near impossible task...* *...One that only DUST 514 has accomplished*
sir RAVEN WING Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 3140	Posted - 2015.03.08 04:30:00 - [16] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: Here's the thing though, every other suit is way easier to kill with those ' counters ' you listed than heavies. And every other suit is faster and can carry equipment. I could understand everyone crying about it if the suit didn't have any drawbacks as everyone makes it seem. Not to mention the heavy suit's scan, you should almost always be able to see where it is. Have you noticed there are more then enough people out there who can kill a heavy suit with ease? Maybe you should take a minute to analyze what they are doing right. I actually run Min/Amarr assault, Min scout, I can kill a heavy fairly easy in each one. I really don't see what the big deal is o.O Yes, you run FotM and can killed a heavy. However as you say in your sig, your a heavy. Why do you defend heavies that prove themselves OP as all **? I mean 18/0, seen assaults do it. Done better in a scout. 33/3 in STD? Yeah, that's where I draw the line. To anger a calm man like me is a near impossible task... ...One that only DUST 514 has accomplished**
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 579	Posted - 2015.03.08 04:32:00 - [17] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: I can take heavies down with an Adv. ScR and breach SMG combo pretty darn good actually. Mayhaps you should try not standing directly in front of the MINIGUN while shooting them? Actually I got shot 30m away. In a shield tank... While my PLC shot phased through him... He went 33/3 that match, I wouldn't have pointed it out should it have been anything else. 4 heavies that game, their scores were: 33/3 29/4 18/0 24/1 Only 1 logi in the whole game. I went positive, barely. 9/8. Shotgun scout: Killed before he can reach heavy RE: See above Cloak scout: Seen instantly while cloaked. (Poor guy... I know how annoying it is.) Clearly your doing something wrong. Also you should bring friends along. I had a squad, who was doing everything they could, but it didn't work. I used a ADV CR, a PRO ACR, ADV PLC, ADV MD, PRO RR, PRO ARR. None of it worked, they simply retreated. The only thing that I saw kill a Heavy was my PLC shots in a crowded room. I was then killed my a HMG. I am getting exceptionally annoyed with the 'Heavies are fine going 33/3' people. So it's wrong for a heavy to go 33/3 but okay for any other suit is what your trying to say? I've seen proto heavies go negative and assault/scout users go better then 33/3. Honestly if I failed that bad trying to kill them, I would have just walked away to another point. ......Waaaait, were you in that match, the skirmish at bravo, where there is only the two ways in. The drop down in the back and the road out front? The new C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y, I'm that Heavy you warn your team about <3 -Heavy/Commando/Logi/Assault/Scout-
DeadlyAztec11 Defenders of the Helghast Dream 7879	Posted - 2015.03.08 04:38:00 - [18] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: Here's the thing though, every other suit is way easier to kill with those ' counters ' you listed than heavies. And every other suit is faster and can carry equipment. I could understand everyone crying about it if the suit didn't have any drawbacks as everyone makes it seem. Not to mention the heavy suit's scan, you should almost always be able to see where it is. Have you noticed there are more then enough people out there who can kill a heavy suit with ease? Maybe you should take a minute to analyze what they are doing right. I actually run Min/Amarr assault, Min scout, I can kill a heavy fairly easy in each one. I really don't see what the big deal is o.O Yes, you run FotM and can killed a heavy. However as you say in your sig, your a heavy. Why do you defend heavies that prove themselves OP as all ****? I mean 18/0, seen assaults do it. Done better in a scout. 33/3 in STD? Yeah, that's where I draw the line. Exactly, boasting that you can kill a heavy with a super strafing suit is a completely unfair resolution. Strafing is clearly broken. If it takes a broken mechanic to make you competitive against an entire class(Sentinels) then that class is not balanced. Before anyone replies just take note that I have had Minmatar Assault to Proto since Uprising launched. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 579	Posted - 2015.03.08 04:40:00 - [19] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: Here's the thing though, every other suit is way easier to kill with those ' counters ' you listed than heavies. And every other suit is faster and can carry equipment. I could understand everyone crying about it if the suit didn't have any drawbacks as everyone makes it seem. Not to mention the heavy suit's scan, you should almost always be able to see where it is. Have you noticed there are more then enough people out there who can kill a heavy suit with ease? Maybe you should take a minute to analyze what they are doing right. I actually run Min/Amarr assault, Min scout, I can kill a heavy fairly easy in each one. I really don't see what the big deal is o.O Yes, you run FotM and can killed a heavy. However as you say in your sig, your a heavy. Why do you defend heavies that prove themselves OP as all **? I mean 18/0, seen assaults do it. Done better in a scout. 33/3 in STD? Yeah, that's where I draw the line. Really? FotM? I have proto Min/Ammar assault, Min Scout, Amarr Commando, Amarr/Gal heavy, and I'm FotM? I can kill any heavy in any of those suits, I have many times and will continue to do so. You clearly missed the term "flavor of the month" because it's the ONE thing that's OP as hell and everyone does. Saying my 6 different suits and weapons are FotM is just an ignorant statement to start with. I can kill a heavy with either combat rifle, either ScR, Massdriver, Shotgun, Nova knives, SMG, bolt pistol, grenades, remotes, or wtf ever else you want to toss in my hands. If 80% of everything is FotM, just give the ** up and quit o.O What I am saying here, is that a good player, no matter what they put on, will do well. Especially if they know how to use what they are using. There is a time and a place for everything, hence why we skill into different things and form squads. The new C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y, I'm that Heavy you warn your team about <3 -Heavy/Commando/Logi/Assault/Scout-
WeapondigitX V7 The Exemplars RISE of LEGION 253	Posted - 2015.03.08 04:43:00 - [20] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: I can take heavies down with an Adv. ScR and breach SMG combo pretty darn good actually. Mayhaps you should try not standing directly in front of the MINIGUN while shooting them? Actually I got shot 30m away. In a shield tank... While my PLC shot phased through him... He went 33/3 that match, I wouldn't have pointed it out should it have been anything else. 4 heavies that game, their scores were: 33/3 29/4 18/0 24/1 Only 1 logi in the whole game. I went positive, barely. 9/8. Shotgun scout: Killed before he can reach heavy RE: See above Cloak scout: Seen instantly while cloaked. (Poor guy... I know how annoying it is.) That scout clearly relied too much on cloak or was unlucky a few times. Shotgun scouts usually only work consistently against vets when you only have 10m to 22m between your cover and the target. If you run at them at longer distances your probably going to be seen. You can still be unlucky at 15m runs. Did those heavies camp a objective or move around a lot. You can ambush them with pre placed REs if they move around a lot. Use your self as a homing beacon around corners and doorways. Don't put REs at mid height or the middle of the floor. Put them on the floor next to a wall at a corner of a door etc. They are harder to notice. Or use a shotgun assault suit with 1 PRO dampener but use it like a scout. You will have opportunities to get close ad kill the logi, die, then kill a heavy, die, kill etc. Your doing a 1vs4 or 1 vs 5. You should expect to die unfortunately in cities. If many allies attack a entrance, you should use the other one 2 seconds later after your allies attack, that's enough time for the enemies to turn away from your flanking path.

sir RAVEN WING Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 3140	Posted - 2015.03.08 04:44:00 - [21] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: I can take heavies down with an Adv. ScR and breach SMG combo pretty darn good actually. Mayhaps you should try not standing directly in front of the MINIGUN while shooting them? Actually I got shot 30m away. In a shield tank... While my PLC shot phased through him... He went 33/3 that match, I wouldn't have pointed it out should it have been anything else. 4 heavies that game, their scores were: 33/3 29/4 18/0 24/1 Only 1 logi in the whole game. I went positive, barely. 9/8. Shotgun scout: Killed before he can reach heavy RE: See above Cloak scout: Seen instantly while cloaked. (Poor guy... I know how annoying it is.) Clearly your doing something wrong. Also you should bring friends along. I had a squad, who was doing everything they could, but it didn't work. I used a ADV CR, a PRO ACR, ADV PLC, ADV MD, PRO RR, PRO ARR. None of it worked, they simply retreated. The only thing that I saw kill a Heavy was my PLC shots in a crowded room. I was then killed my a HMG. I am getting exceptionally annoyed with the 'Heavies are fine going 33/3' people. So it's wrong for a heavy to go 33/3 but okay for any other suit is what your trying to say? I've seen proto heavies go negative and assault/scout users go better then 33/3. Honestly if I failed that bad trying to kill them, I would have just walked away to another point. ......Waaaait, were you in that match, the skirmish at bravo, where there is only the two ways in. The drop down in the back and the road out front? Once in a while it is okay to have that score, but when people running that suit can get good K/Ds without trying. I have a Heavy suit at all times, but rarely use it due to the fact that it's far too easy to use. No, I was not. *To anger a calm man like me is a near impossible task...* *...One that only DUST 514 has accomplished*
Eruditus 920 Nemo Malus Felix 1404	Posted - 2015.03.08 04:48:00 - [22] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: Here's the thing though, every other suit is way easier to kill with those ' counters ' you listed than heavies. And every other suit is faster and can carry equipment. I could understand everyone crying about it if the suit didn't have any drawbacks as everyone makes it seem. Not to mention the heavy suit's scan, you should almost always be able to see where it is. Have you noticed there are more then enough people out there who can kill a heavy suit with ease? Maybe you should take a minute to analyze what they are doing right. I actually run Min/Amarr assault, Min scout, I can kill a heavy fairly easy in each one. I really don't see what the big deal is o.O Yes, you run FotM and can killed a heavy. However as you say in your sig, your a heavy. Why do you defend heavies that prove themselves OP as all **? I mean 18/0, seen assaults do it. Done better in a scout. 33/3 in STD? Yeah, that's where I draw the line. Really? FotM? I have proto Min/Ammar assault, Min Scout, Amarr Commando, Amarr/Gal heavy, and I'm FotM? I can kill any heavy in any of those suits, I have many times and will continue to do so. You clearly missed the term "flavor of the month" because it's the ONE thing that's OP as hell and everyone does. Saying my 6 different suits and weapons are FotM is just an ignorant statement to start with. I can kill a heavy with either combat rifle, either ScR, Massdriver, Shotgun, Nova knives, SMG, bolt pistol, grenades, remotes, or wtf ever else you want to toss in my hands. If 80% of everything is FotM, just give the ** up and quit o.O What I am saying here, is that a good player, no matter what they put on, will do well. Especially if they know how to use what they are using. There is a time and a place for everything, hence why we skill into different things and form squads. I'm just going to come right out and say you sound like a complete dumbass who is clearly in damage control mode of their crutch HMG play style that is finally, after forever, getting the nerf with Echo that is long deserved. More should follow. Your arguments that "anything can kill anything" just sounds desperate and frankly childish. Don't you feel silly? Reads like the old scout threads. "Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
WeapondigitX V7 The Exemplars RISE of LEGION 253	Posted - 2015.03.08 04:51:00 - [23] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: Here's the thing though, every other suit is way easier to kill with those ' counters ' you listed than heavies. And every other suit is faster and can carry equipment. I could understand everyone crying about it if the suit didn't have any drawbacks as everyone makes it seem. Not to mention the heavy suit's scan, you should almost always be able to see where it is. Have you noticed there are more then enough people out there who can kill a heavy suit with ease? Maybe you should take a minute to analyze what they are doing right. I actually run Min/Amarr assault, Min scout, I can kill a heavy fairly easy in each one. I really don't see what the big deal is o.O Yes, you run FotM and can killed a heavy. However as you say in your sig, your a heavy. Why do you defend heavies that prove themselves OP as all ****? I mean 18/0, seen assaults do it. Done better in a scout. 33/3 in STD? Yeah, that's where I draw the line. there are players such as me that have gone 40/3 in std gear in amarr scouts and many assault suits. Keep in mind that regardless of a suits strengths and power, its the player and hes squad that make them do well most of the time. Getting high scores usually means that your enemy does not change slightly to adapt to the situation. (slight changes in suit or suit type etc) Back in beta I would get high scores of 25/2 in starter fits consistently, because the enemy was usually kept getting out witted and such. High scores can happen for other reasons instead of a suit being OP.
sir RAVEN WING Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 3140	Posted - 2015.03.08 04:57:00 - [24] - Quote Digit, I have done better in Closed Beta. Back then everyone was stupid except for a few. I was one of the few. Nothing to brag about back then. *To anger a calm man like me is a near impossible task...* *...One that only DUST 514 has accomplished*
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 579	Posted - 2015.03.08 05:06:00 - [25] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Once in a while it is okay to have that score, but when people running that suit can get good K/Ds without trying. I have a Heavy suit at all times, but rarely use it due to the fact that it's far too easy to use. No, I was not. Those people don't last in the long run though. You can tell because they get dropped like a fly when they actually run up on someone who knows what they are doing. A real heavy knows it's not about the kills, anyone who runs heavy in PC a lot knows that. Honestly, I prefer my Amarr assault suit now, though I find my commando to be the most amusing and fun <3 Ah, thought you mighta been, me and my buddies decided to take a couple heavies, logis, and scouts and just hold down that one point for the whole game xD The new C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y, I'm that Heavy you warn your team about <3 -Heavy/Commando/Logi/Assault/Scout-
syzygiet General Tso's Alliance 24	Posted - 2015.03.08 05:10:00 - [26] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: 4 heavies that game, their scores were: 33/3 29/4 18/0 24/1 Only 1 logi in the whole game. I went positive, barely. 9/8. Shotgun scout: Killed before he can reach heavy RE: See above Cloak scout: Seen instantly while cloaked. (Poor guy... I know how annoying it is.) Stat from one game doesnt make a winning argument.
Big miku Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 498	Posted - 2015.03.08 05:12:00 - [27] - Quote I wonder how many Heavy Players dominate the Weekly Kill boards.
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 580	Posted - 2015.03.08 05:15:00 - [28] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: I'm just going to come right out and say you sound like a complete dumbass who is clearly in damage control mode of their crutch HMG play style that is finally, after forever, getting the nerf with Echo that is long deserved. More should follow. Your arguments that "anything can kill anything" just sounds desperate and frankly childish. Don't you feel silly? Reads like the old scout threads. The first thing you come at me with is an insult, makes you sound like a child. Clearly you missed the part where I said I also play with at least 4 non-heavy suits and weapons. Proto in them all and I play with them more collectively them my heavy. The heavy will still have it's role to play and I will continue to use it when it's appropriate. Never heard of "The right tool for the right job" huh? I mean, if I hadn't killed every kind of suit in the game at one point or another, using militia variants of everything (I do this periodically to see what I want to skill into next) then I would indeed feel silly. Since your brain cells are clearly too busy fighting for oxygen, I'll go ahead and point out that it's more then just a game of "Oh a red berry, -pewpew-", and you should think before engaging your opponent. Ask anyone who is actually good at the game if they can kill a heavy suit c; The new C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y, I'm that Heavy you warn your team about <3 -Heavy/Commando/Logi/Assault/Scout-
sir RAVEN WING Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 3140	Posted - 2015.03.08 05:31:00 - [29] - Quote Broke out my Heavy just now. Went 29/0. I feel disgusting. *To anger a calm man like me is a near impossible task...* *...One that only DUST 514 has accomplished*
Big miku Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 500	Posted - 2015.03.08 05:33:00 - [30] - Quote Broke out my Heavy just now Went 145/0 I feel Sexy

Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 45	Posted - 2015.03.08 08:12:00 - [31] - Quote Well you see,heavies are built purposely to be amazing point defence,having ridiculous defenses while at the same time have stupid damage output but they can't move for **** which doesn't help their extremely short range. Standing right infront of a heavy then complaining because you got killed by him was all your fault. The plasma shot phasing though that said heavy is the game's fault though. Bad hit detection. All in all,heavies are fairly easy to kill if you have the right tactics and well capable team mates How many amarr does it take to change a light bulb? none. The minmatar do it for them
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 2587	Posted - 2015.03.08 08:32:00 - [32] - Quote Yeah lol... I love how Standard heavies can take a direct PLC hit to the face and come out laughing... Standard. Heavies. Ridiculous bullshit right der. Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 45	Posted - 2015.03.08 08:34:00 - [33] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: Yeah lol... I love how Standard heavies can take a direct PLC hit to the face and come out laughing... Standard. Heavies. Ridiculous bullshit right der. Yeah I hate that too,BScP to the head fixes that though How many amarr does it take to change a light bulb? none. The minmatar do it for them
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 2587	Posted - 2015.03.08 08:40:00 - [34] - Quote Georgia Xavier wrote: LUGMOS wrote: Yeah lol... I love how Standard heavies can take a direct PLC hit to the face and come out laughing... Standard. Heavies. Ridiculous bullshit right der. Yeah I hate that too,BScP to the head fixes that though Yeah, except your fcking dead before you can do that... Remember? High DPS death machine? Official QuafeGäó Advocate* Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
SagaB Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 150	Posted - 2015.03.08 08:42:00 - [35] - Quote Big miku wrote: Broke out my Heavy just now Went 145/0 I feel Sexy HMG so OP you teamkill with ease
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 45	Posted - 2015.03.08 08:42:00 - [36] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: Georgia Xavier wrote: LUGMOS wrote: Yeah lol... I love how Standard heavies can take a direct PLC hit to the face and come out laughing... Standard. Heavies. Ridiculous bullshit right der. Yeah I hate that too,BScP to the head fixes that though Yeah, except your f*cking dead before you can do that... Remember? High DPS death machine? Haul ass first!! I'm heavy in my Main so you can run for like a split second and heavy ass would have lost you already How many amarr does it take to change a light bulb? none. The minmatar do it for them
SagaB Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 150	Posted - 2015.03.08 08:44:00 - [37] - Quote Big miku wrote: I wonder how many Heavy Players dominate the Weekly Kill boards. Kaizuka Sniper is a sniper, it's even in his name lol
sir RAVEN WING Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 3143	Posted - 2015.03.08 09:14:00 - [38] - Quote Georgia Xavier wrote: Well you see,heavies are built purposely to be amazing point defence,having ridiculous defenses while at the same time have stupid damage output but they can't move for ** which doesn't help their extremely short range. Standing right infront of a heavy then complaining because you got killed by him was all your fault. The plasma shot phasing though that said heavy is the game's fault though. Bad hit detection. All in all,heavies are fairly easy to kill if you have the right tactics and well capable team mates I took aim while he was looking the other way, he turned ate the bloody PLC shot, and just killed me. So... standing behind a heavy and instantly dying when he turns around is my fault? (He killed me before the damage indicator could even do anything. Tell me that's balanced.) To anger a calm man like me is a near impossible task... ...One that only DUST 514 has accomplished**
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 2588	Posted - 2015.03.08 09:16:00 - [39] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Georgia Xavier wrote: Well you see,heavies are built purposely to be amazing point defence,having ridiculous defenses while at the same time have stupid damage output but they can't move for **** which doesn't help their extremely short range. Standing right infront of a heavy then complaining because you got killed by him was all your fault. The plasma shot phasing though that said heavy is the game's fault though. Bad hit detection. All in all,heavies are fairly easy to kill if you have the right tactics and well capable team mates I took aim while he was looking the other way, he turned ate the bloody PLC shot, and just killed me. So... standing behind a heavy and instantly dying when he turns around is my fault? (He killed me before the damage indicator could even do anything. Tell me that's balanced.) Yes, its balanced cuz the heavi uzed skil to kil u. U didnt stronk nuff 2win m8. Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 45	Posted - 2015.03.08 09:22:00 - [40] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Georgia Xavier wrote: Well you see,heavies are built purposely to be amazing point defence,having ridiculous defenses while at the same time have stupid damage output but they can't move for **** which doesn't help their extremely short range. Standing right infront of a heavy then complaining because you got killed by him was all your fault. The plasma shot phasing though that said heavy is the game's fault though. Bad hit detection. All in all,heavies are fairly easy to kill if you have the right tactics and well capable team mates I took aim while he was looking the other way, he turned ate the bloody PLC shot, and just killed me. So... standing behind a heavy and instantly dying when he turns around is my fault? (He killed me before the damage indicator could even do anything. Tell me that's balanced.) Hey I said it was bad hit detection dude,jeez chill besides for some reason,heavies can survive a plc but not a shotgun which is also a bit annoying How many amarr does it take to change a light bulb? none. The minmatar do it for them

DRT 99 Commando Perkone Caldari State 206	Posted - 2015.03.08 10:22:00 - [41] - Quote i run an STD sentinel with nothing but rechargers and reppers - no tank mods other than regen. hell no damage mods most of the time. it obsoletes pretty much most other suits in the game.
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 961	Posted - 2015.03.08 12:09:00 - [42] - Quote Medium frame has almost zero chance to kill sentinel in city. Every gunfight is within 50-40m in towns. 40m is HMG optimal. Every assault will be down after 1,5 bursts. Caldari Hero Loyal To The State Mejt0 Sale List
Stormblade Green KnightKiller's inc. 40	Posted - 2015.03.08 12:53:00 - [43] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: I can take heavies down with an Adv. ScR and breach SMG combo pretty darn good actually. Mayhaps you should try not standing directly in front of the MINIGUN while shooting them? Lol I had quite a few stand completely still in front of me. One might say... I'm very skilled... yet I'm his apprentice... So what does that say about my mentor?
Big miku Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 502	Posted - 2015.03.08 13:11:00 - [44] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Medium frame has almost zero chance to kill sentinel in city. Every gunfight is within 50-40m in towns. 40m is HMG optimal. Every assault will be down after 1,5 bursts. HMG Range at PRO level is 33 OPT and 55 EFF https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FYU-aHBH9jmOdTd9LFJu6XlmvINRapJGw71OAE49Qec/edit#gid=0
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 965	Posted - 2015.03.08 14:40:00 - [45] - Quote Big miku wrote: Mejt0 wrote: Medium frame has almost zero chance to kill sentinel in city. Every gunfight is within 50-40m in towns. 40m is HMG optimal. Every assault will be down after 1,5 bursts. HMG Range at PRO level is 33 OPT and 55 EFF https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FYU-aHBH9jmOdTd9LFJu6XlmvINRapJGw71OAE49Qec/edit#gid=0 Up to 40m hmg loses only few % of dmg - same as nothing Caldari Hero Loyal To The State Mejt0 Sale List
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 22531	Posted - 2015.03.08 15:04:00 - [46] - Quote Isn't Corrosive Synergy a corp that does Gal FW...? Gallente Guide
Ghost Kaisar Negative-Feedback 10403	Posted - 2015.03.08 16:28:00 - [47] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: I can take heavies down with an Adv. ScR and breach SMG combo pretty darn good actually. Mayhaps you should try not standing directly in front of the MINIGUN while shooting them? Instantly is a bit of a misnomer. Combat rifles and Rail rifles do it quicker than others, but nowhere near instantly. I've yet to see someone rip through a full health heavy with an ACR with anything LESS than a full clip. (Barring Minmatar, because Min heavies have nowhere near enough HP) Shotguns take 2-3 shots. Still a good second or two. We just start the engagement while your back is turned, and try to end it without being on the receiving end of the death machine. RE's against a single heavy is stupid. Use them against heavy blobs. Which is perfectly fine. As long as you guys are resistant to Grenade and MD spam, RE's will remain the most effective way of pushing multiple heavies off an objective, short of pulling out heavies of your own. My personal rule: If it takes "X" spam to counter "X" spam, SOMETHING is broken. You guys still have the highest TTK in the game for most weapons. Try not to make it sound like you guys are paper thin. You aren't. Currently listening to: Max Anarchy OST Old School Scout, watch out for the knives
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 5749	Posted - 2015.03.08 16:31:00 - [48] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Isn't Corrosive Synergy a corp that does Gal FW...? They aren't loyal to a single Empire (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
Big miku Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 503	Posted - 2015.03.08 16:36:00 - [49] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: My personal rule: If it takes "X" spam to counter "X" spam, SOMETHING is broken. Rock is Overpowered, Paper is underused and Scissors needs to be buffed.
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 2589	Posted - 2015.03.08 17:11:00 - [50] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Isn't Corrosive Synergy a corp that does Gal FW...? They aren't loyal to a single Empire Yeah, we don't really like taking easy mode any one day. We like to switch it up Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V

ROMULUS H3X research lab 355	Posted - 2015.03.08 17:21:00 - [51] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: Yeah lol... I love how Standard heavies can take a direct PLC hit to the face and come out laughing... Standard. Heavies. Ridiculous bullshit right der. Smiles sadistically waiting for Echo Soon there will be a lot less of them surviving that tactical direct shot FORGE/FLAYLOCK/FISTS PLASMA/PISTOL/PUNCH ALL OF YOU PUNKS GET HUMILIATED AFTER LUNCH!
sir RAVEN WING Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 3149	Posted - 2015.03.08 18:58:00 - [52] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Isn't Corrosive Synergy a corp that does Gal FW...? They aren't loyal to a single Empire Yeah, we don't really like taking easy mode any one day. We like to switch it up Easy Mode? Back when I was still active in CFW it was a tough fight for the Gallente when I was on the team. I'm a bit rusty now, and broke. Also Level 3! Just need 7 more... *To anger a calm man like me is a near impossible task...* *...One that only DUST 514 has accomplished*
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2536	Posted - 2015.03.08 20:14:00 - [53] - Quote I honestly believe heavies are close to balanced - what's left to determine is what exactly their role should be, including the basic frames. I agree with Breakin' Stuff that the current niche of the heavy came about as the result of several nerfs/buffs that were made without any clear vision of where we were heading. That being said, the bigger issue is assaults(including the basic medium frame): they have not become assaults yet. Yes they got an ehp buff and yes we've looked at their role/racial skills a few times, but these have only been incomplete iterations on where we want to end up. Tbh when assaults got that arbitrary and undiscussed ehp buff it was one of those head-slapping moments because an ehp buff was definitely not the focus of the discussion threads re: the assault's role. In short, one of the primary reasons we have heavy spam is because assaults have not yet been given the suite of tools they need to do their job. PSN: RationalSpark
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 586	Posted - 2015.03.09 06:30:00 - [54] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: I can take heavies down with an Adv. ScR and breach SMG combo pretty darn good actually. Mayhaps you should try not standing directly in front of the MINIGUN while shooting them? Instantly is a bit of a misnomer. Combat rifles and Rail rifles do it quicker than others, but nowhere near instantly. I've yet to see someone rip through a full health heavy with an ACR with anything LESS than a full clip. (Barring Minmatar, because Min heavies have nowhere near enough HP) Shotguns take 2-3 shots. Still a good second or two. We just start the engagement while your back is turned, and try to end it without being on the receiving end of the death machine. RE's against a single heavy is stupid. Use them against heavy blobs. Which is perfectly fine. As long as you guys are resistant to Grenade and MD spam, RE's will remain the most effective way of pushing multiple heavies off an objective, short of pulling out heavies of your own. My personal rule: If it takes "X" spam to counter "X" spam, SOMETHING is broken. You guys still have the highest TTK in the game for most weapons. Try not to make it sound like you guys are paper thin. You aren't. Fact of the matter, the suit does what it was intended for. So I'm not saying it's paper thin, assuming you can run it right. I can do equally well in my Assault, Scout, or Commando suit, if not better then my heavy suit most of the time. No one seems to want to explain that phenomenon though.... Or my Logi, going 2000wp+ almost every time I want to run it. Lately I prefer my other suits to my heavy because they are more fun and are not as limited as the heavy. With a heavy suit, your limited to your choice of attack and defending style. The new C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y, I'm that Heavy you warn your team about <3 -Heavy/Commando/Logi/Assault/Scout-
xavier zor 0uter.Heaven Back and Forth 737	Posted - 2015.03.09 06:51:00 - [55] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: I can take heavies down with an Adv. ScR and breach SMG combo pretty darn good actually. Mayhaps you should try not standing directly in front of the MINIGUN while shooting them? The only thing you guys die instantly to is your own stupidity As long as you don't let anything sneak up on you then you are good to go. When i see heavy spam, i use knives. Assault spam, heavy. Scout spam, assault retired stabbed musturd, duna, radar, tibs replying
Jathniel Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 1492	Posted - 2015.03.09 23:31:00 - [56] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: They are meant to go 33/3 and be immune to bullets and PLCs. It's not the heavy's fault, that 11 people ran at him and died, each time he died.... 3 times... Retired
sir RAVEN WING Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 3157	Posted - 2015.03.10 00:27:00 - [57] - Quote Jathniel wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: They are meant to go 33/3 and be immune to bullets and PLCs. It's not the heavy's fault, that 11 people ran at him and died, each time he died.... 3 times... That guy was actually chasing us down. Thankfully he was slow. Sadly his HMG was able to mow down even the shield tanks. *To anger a calm man like me is a near impossible task...* *...One that only DUST 514 has accomplished*
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1571	Posted - 2015.03.10 00:29:00 - [58] - Quote Just take a look at the PC kills spreadsheet. The story is all there. Amarr heavy w/ Boundless HMG is #1 by a margin of about 3X, other heavy HMG combos make up a lot of the top 10 and Scout SG and NK is also overrepresented. Because, that's why.
sir RAVEN WING Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 3158	Posted - 2015.03.10 03:25:00 - [59] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: I honestly believe heavies are close to balanced - what's left to determine is what exactly their role should be, including the basic frames. I agree with Breakin' Stuff that the current niche of the heavy came about as the result of several nerfs/buffs that were made without any clear vision of where we were heading. That being said, the bigger issue is assaults(including the basic medium frame): they have not become assaults yet. Yes they got an ehp buff and yes we've looked at their role/racial skills a few times, but these have only been incomplete iterations on where we want to end up. Tbh when assaults got that arbitrary and undiscussed ehp buff it was one of those head-slapping moments because an ehp buff was definitely not the focus of the discussion threads re: the assault's role. In short, one of the primary reasons we have heavy spam is because assaults have not yet been given the suite of tools they need to do their job. An intelligent argument that supports heavies. Very nice. *To anger a calm man like me is a near impossible task...* *...One that only DUST 514 has accomplished*
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 734	Posted - 2015.03.10 03:50:00 - [60] - Quote I've seen every class in the game do that. I saw a scout go 76 and 12 in a Dom just 1 month ago. GTFO with this kitten.

Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2547	Posted - 2015.03.10 04:12:00 - [61] - Quote Lol. Look at all the heavies here. You guys know you're getting nerfed right? I can't wait for hevy cri... Hopefully matches won't be determined by how many HMGs a team puts into the main complex anymore... Home at Last <3
sir RAVEN WING Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 3160	Posted - 2015.03.10 04:41:00 - [62] - Quote Imp Smash wrote: I've seen every class in the game do that. I saw a scout go 76 and 12 in a Dom just 1 month ago. GTFO with this kitten. Yes, as I've explained before it is possible to do better. Only thing is HMG heavies don't actually have to do anything more than press R1 and farm kills and can do it every single damn game. Imp, I'm not going to say you are lying, but that score sounds exaggerated. The Scores I post are taken from the EOM screen. May you please supply the name of said scout? Before you ask: Soul Eater III (I may be mistaken, but I am pretty sure it was him going 33/3) Also, shit is censored like this **, and not 'Kitten' Glad someone remembers those days though. All in all - going 76/12 once in a scout (Almost UP now, thanks to assaults.) is most likely skill, and proto, perhaps even teamwork, but going 33/3 every game is quite overpowered. Heavies have had their time in the sun, and now are ashes. What was their rise to power again, 1.0 (Uprising)? Well that wavered. To anger a calm man like me is a near impossible task... ...One that only DUST 514 has accomplished**
xavier zor 0uter.Heaven Back and Forth 768	Posted - 2015.03.10 04:45:00 - [63] - Quote When i used a heavy, it is pretty easy to mow people down. The feeling that you are the only thing stopping A being overrun for me, comes from any heavy suit, a stealthy min scout when i am hitting them from behind and an amarr assault (i am going to cry now that i think about it). They are balanced, because they have horrible regeneration statistics, are slow and have really bad eWar stats. retired stabbed musturd, duna, radar, tibs replying
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 2629	Posted - 2015.03.10 04:50:00 - [64] - Quote xavier zor wrote: When i used a heavy, it is pretty easy to mow people down. The feeling that you are the only thing stopping A being overrun for me, comes from any heavy suit, a stealthy min scout when i am hitting them from behind and an amarr assault (i am going to cry now that i think about it). They are balanced, because they have horrible regeneration statistics, are slow and have really bad eWar stats. Still need a range Nerf on the normal HMG variant, since running an Assault is pointless because of this. And because they are too far reaching. Also, the explosive resistance needs to go... Like really. MD should be more effective on them. If you buff the MD tho, it will become OP. Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
xavier zor 0uter.Heaven Back and Forth 768	Posted - 2015.03.10 04:52:00 - [65] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: xavier zor wrote: When i used a heavy, it is pretty easy to mow people down. The feeling that you are the only thing stopping A being overrun for me, comes from any heavy suit, a stealthy min scout when i am hitting them from behind and an amarr assault (i am going to cry now that i think about it). They are balanced, because they have horrible regeneration statistics, are slow and have really bad eWar stats. Still need a range Nerf on the normal HMG variant, since running an Assault is pointless because of this. And because they are too far reaching. Also, the explosive resistance needs to go... Like really. MD should be more effective on them. If you buff the MD tho, it will become OP. the range does need a nerf, yeah....20m is acceptable in my opinion for the optimal range, and like the shotgun there should be a steep decline in DPS past 25/30m retired stabbed musturd, duna, radar, tibs replying
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 734	Posted - 2015.03.10 07:58:00 - [66] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Imp Smash wrote: I've seen every class in the game do that. I saw a scout go 76 and 12 in a Dom just 1 month ago. GTFO with this kitten. Yes, as I've explained before it is possible to do better. Only thing is HMG heavies don't actually have to do anything more than press R1 and farm kills and can do it every single damn game. Imp, I'm not going to say you are lying, but that score sounds exaggerated. The Scores I post are taken from the EOM screen. May you please supply the name of said scout? Before you ask: Soul Eater III (I may be mistaken, but I am pretty sure it was him going 33/3) Also, shit is censored like this ****, and not 'Kitten' Glad someone remembers those days though. All in all - going 76/12 once in a scout (Almost UP now, thanks to assaults.) is most likely skill, and proto, perhaps even teamwork, but going 33/3 every game is quite overpowered. Heavies have had their time in the sun, and now are ashes. What was their rise to power again, 1.0 (Uprising)? Well that wavered. Don't remember his name. THIRD ROCK guy. Dom inside a building. just 1 room , the hallway, the parallel hallway a small side pocket, and the stairs up to the outside balcony. He'd run in, run through the 3 or 4 heavies plus logis plus assaults in there dropping remotes like Johnny Appleseed, and when he made it to the door he'd blow em. Such a small cramped area no one could get out, and a LOT of shields/kin Katts broke hit detection. No teamwork, no help. Just a situation where the reds had no choice but to stay there or lose the point. They got cloned before our MCC hit armor despite us never taking the point. (Tons of logis heavies in there so there was no shortage of spawns) He was on my team thankfully. But no, absolutely not exaggerated. That is EOM score. I wish I had a video capture card for that match because I would have you tubed it in an instant. You aren't wrong about the ridiculous heavy spam. It's...ridiculous But make no mistake, there is some way worse kitten out there. It's all about perspective. If you expect x, y, z to be OP it will be. If you expect x, y, z to be nerfed to fairness it will be. In your own mind anyway. (By you I mean people.) I'd argue scout vs heavy vs assault power but really it doesn't matter. Point is, I recognize that said scout doesn't get games like that often. The situation was just right for him that one time. I can say I have seen a scout break 75 with just remotes. Just like I've seen heavies break 30. I don't see either often, so the actual exaggeration is this idea that heavies have this magic situation often would be like scouts having the above listed situation happen often. The entire OP is hyperbole. (and hey, I am FOR the HMG range nerf for the record.)
Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 8952	Posted - 2015.03.10 08:44:00 - [67] - Quote VAHZZ wrote: Dude, I die all the time to dam shotty scouts. Even when I go 3 complex armor and 1 complex rep, I still get 2-3hko. Must be rough being vulnerable to something that everyone else is even more vulnerable to. My regards. Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department? *Founder of AIV*
syzygiet Minmatar Republic 27	Posted - 2015.03.10 16:25:00 - [68] - Quote Imp Smash wrote: Don't remember his name. THIRD ROCK guy. Dom inside a building. just 1 room , the hallway, the parallel hallway a small side pocket, and the stairs up to the outside balcony. He'd run in, run through the 3 or 4 heavies plus logis plus assaults in there dropping remotes like Johnny Appleseed, and when he made it to the door he'd blow em. Such a small cramped area no one could get out, and a LOT of shields/kin Katts broke hit detection. No teamwork, no help. Just a situation where the reds had no choice but to stay there or lose the point. They got cloned before our MCC hit armor despite us never taking the point. (Tons of logis heavies in there so there was no shortage of spawns) He was on my team thankfully. But no, absolutely not exaggerated. That is EOM score. I wish I had a video capture card for that match because I would have you tubed it in an instant. You aren't wrong about the ridiculous heavy spam. It's...ridiculous But make no mistake, there is some way worse kitten out there. It's all about perspective. If you expect x, y, z to be OP it will be. If you expect x, y, z to be nerfed to fairness it will be. In your own mind anyway. (By you I mean people.) I'd argue scout vs heavy vs assault power but really it doesn't matter. Point is, I recognize that said scout doesn't get games like that often. The situation was just right for him that one time. I can say I have seen a scout break 75 with just remotes. Just like I've seen heavies break 30. I don't see either often, so the actual exaggeration is this idea that heavies have this magic situation often would be like scouts having the above listed situation happen often. The entire OP is hyperbole. (and hey, I am FOR the HMG range nerf for the record.) Jake redblood and said video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGgvA_oUBAQ
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 736	Posted - 2015.03.12 23:38:00 - [69] - Quote Yup. That's the one. You see me and my squad (and my pitiful warstrike) in it. We were laughing about it the whole time. I ain't even mad the scout could do that. Abuse that kitten while you can. Thanks for finding it. Interesting to watch the match through that guy's camera.


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