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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.10 04:12:00 -
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Lol. Look at all the heavies here. You guys know you're getting nerfed right? I can't wait for hevy cri...
Hopefully matches won't be determined by how many HMGs a team puts into the main complex anymore...
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sir RAVEN WING
Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION
3160
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Posted - 2015.03.10 04:41:00 -
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Imp Smash wrote:I've seen every class in the game do that. I saw a scout go 76 and 12 in a Dom just 1 month ago. GTFO with this kitten. Yes, as I've explained before it is possible to do better.
Only thing is HMG heavies don't actually have to do anything more than press R1 and farm kills and can do it every single damn game.
Imp, I'm not going to say you are lying, but that score sounds exaggerated. The Scores I post are taken from the EOM screen. May you please supply the name of said scout?
Before you ask: Soul Eater III (I may be mistaken, but I am pretty sure it was him going 33/3)
Also, shit is censored like this ****, and not 'Kitten' Glad someone remembers those days though.
All in all - going 76/12 once in a scout (Almost UP now, thanks to assaults.) is most likely skill, and proto, perhaps even teamwork, but going 33/3 every game is quite overpowered.
Heavies have had their time in the sun, and now are ashes. What was their rise to power again, 1.0 (Uprising)?
Well that wavered.
To anger a calm man like me is a near impossible task...
...One that only DUST 514 has accomplished
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xavier zor
0uter.Heaven Back and Forth
768
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Posted - 2015.03.10 04:45:00 -
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When i used a heavy, it is pretty easy to mow people down. The feeling that you are the only thing stopping A being overrun for me, comes from any heavy suit, a stealthy min scout when i am hitting them from behind and an amarr assault (i am going to cry now that i think about it).
They are balanced, because they have horrible regeneration statistics, are slow and have really bad eWar stats.
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.03.10 04:50:00 -
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xavier zor wrote:When i used a heavy, it is pretty easy to mow people down. The feeling that you are the only thing stopping A being overrun for me, comes from any heavy suit, a stealthy min scout when i am hitting them from behind and an amarr assault (i am going to cry now that i think about it).
They are balanced, because they have horrible regeneration statistics, are slow and have really bad eWar stats. Still need a range Nerf on the normal HMG variant, since running an Assault is pointless because of this. And because they are too far reaching. Also, the explosive resistance needs to go... Like really. MD should be more effective on them. If you buff the MD tho, it will become OP.
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xavier zor
0uter.Heaven Back and Forth
768
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Posted - 2015.03.10 04:52:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:xavier zor wrote:When i used a heavy, it is pretty easy to mow people down. The feeling that you are the only thing stopping A being overrun for me, comes from any heavy suit, a stealthy min scout when i am hitting them from behind and an amarr assault (i am going to cry now that i think about it).
They are balanced, because they have horrible regeneration statistics, are slow and have really bad eWar stats. Still need a range Nerf on the normal HMG variant, since running an Assault is pointless because of this. And because they are too far reaching. Also, the explosive resistance needs to go... Like really. MD should be more effective on them. If you buff the MD tho, it will become OP.
the range does need a nerf, yeah....20m is acceptable in my opinion for the optimal range, and like the shotgun there should be a steep decline in DPS past 25/30m
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Imp Smash
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
734
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Posted - 2015.03.10 07:58:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Imp Smash wrote:I've seen every class in the game do that. I saw a scout go 76 and 12 in a Dom just 1 month ago. GTFO with this kitten. Yes, as I've explained before it is possible to do better. Only thing is HMG heavies don't actually have to do anything more than press R1 and farm kills and can do it every single damn game. Imp, I'm not going to say you are lying, but that score sounds exaggerated. The Scores I post are taken from the EOM screen. May you please supply the name of said scout? Before you ask: Soul Eater III (I may be mistaken, but I am pretty sure it was him going 33/3) Also, s hit is censored like this ****, and not 'Kitten' Glad someone remembers those days though. All in all - going 76/12 once in a scout (Almost UP now, thanks to assaults.) is most likely skill, and proto, perhaps even teamwork, but going 33/3 every game is quite overpowered. Heavies have had their time in the sun, and now are ashes. What was their rise to power again, 1.0 (Uprising)? Well that wavered.
Don't remember his name. THIRD ROCK guy. Dom inside a building. just 1 room , the hallway, the parallel hallway a small side pocket, and the stairs up to the outside balcony.
He'd run in, run through the 3 or 4 heavies plus logis plus assaults in there dropping remotes like Johnny Appleseed, and when he made it to the door he'd blow em. Such a small cramped area no one could get out, and a LOT of shields/kin Katts broke hit detection. No teamwork, no help. Just a situation where the reds had no choice but to stay there or lose the point.
They got cloned before our MCC hit armor despite us never taking the point. (Tons of logis heavies in there so there was no shortage of spawns)
He was on my team thankfully. But no, absolutely not exaggerated. That is EOM score. I wish I had a video capture card for that match because I would have you tubed it in an instant.
You aren't wrong about the ridiculous heavy spam. It's...ridiculous But make no mistake, there is some way worse kitten out there. It's all about perspective. If you expect x, y, z to be OP it will be. If you expect x, y, z to be nerfed to fairness it will be. In your own mind anyway. (By you I mean people.)
I'd argue scout vs heavy vs assault power but really it doesn't matter. Point is, I recognize that said scout doesn't get games like that often. The situation was just right for him that one time. I can say I have seen a scout break 75 with just remotes. Just like I've seen heavies break 30. I don't see either often, so the actual exaggeration is this idea that heavies have this magic situation often would be like scouts having the above listed situation happen often.
The entire OP is hyperbole.
(and hey, I am FOR the HMG range nerf for the record.) |
Aeon Amadi
Chimera Core
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Posted - 2015.03.10 08:44:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:Dude, I die all the time to dam shotty scouts. Even when I go 3 complex armor and 1 complex rep, I still get 2-3hko.
Must be rough being vulnerable to something that everyone else is even more vulnerable to. My regards.
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syzygiet
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.03.10 16:25:00 -
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Imp Smash wrote:Don't remember his name. THIRD ROCK guy. Dom inside a building. just 1 room , the hallway, the parallel hallway a small side pocket, and the stairs up to the outside balcony. He'd run in, run through the 3 or 4 heavies plus logis plus assaults in there dropping remotes like Johnny Appleseed, and when he made it to the door he'd blow em. Such a small cramped area no one could get out, and a LOT of shields/kin Katts broke hit detection. No teamwork, no help. Just a situation where the reds had no choice but to stay there or lose the point. They got cloned before our MCC hit armor despite us never taking the point. (Tons of logis heavies in there so there was no shortage of spawns) He was on my team thankfully. But no, absolutely not exaggerated. That is EOM score. I wish I had a video capture card for that match because I would have you tubed it in an instant. You aren't wrong about the ridiculous heavy spam. It's...ridiculous But make no mistake, there is some way worse kitten out there. It's all about perspective. If you expect x, y, z to be OP it will be. If you expect x, y, z to be nerfed to fairness it will be. In your own mind anyway. (By you I mean people.) I'd argue scout vs heavy vs assault power but really it doesn't matter. Point is, I recognize that said scout doesn't get games like that often. The situation was just right for him that one time. I can say I have seen a scout break 75 with just remotes. Just like I've seen heavies break 30. I don't see either often, so the actual exaggeration is this idea that heavies have this magic situation often would be like scouts having the above listed situation happen often. The entire OP is hyperbole. (and hey, I am FOR the HMG range nerf for the record.)
Jake redblood and said video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGgvA_oUBAQ
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Imp Smash
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
736
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Posted - 2015.03.12 23:38:00 -
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Yup. That's the one. You see me and my squad (and my pitiful warstrike) in it. We were laughing about it the whole time. I ain't even mad the scout could do that. Abuse that kitten while you can. Thanks for finding it. Interesting to watch the match through that guy's camera. |
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