DUST Search - Heavies are balanced.

Mortishai Belmont wrote:

sir RAVEN WING wrote:

Mortishai Belmont wrote:

DeadlyAztec11 wrote:

Mortishai Belmont wrote:

But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D:

Here's the thing though, every other suit is way easier to kill with those ' counters ' you listed than heavies.

And every other suit is faster and can carry equipment. I could understand everyone crying about it if the suit didn't have any drawbacks as everyone makes it seem.

Not to mention the heavy suit's scan, you should almost always be able to see where it is.

Have you noticed there are more then enough people out there who can kill a heavy suit with ease? Maybe you should take a minute to analyze what they are doing right.

I actually run Min/Amarr assault, Min scout, I can kill a heavy fairly easy in each one. I really don't see what the big deal is o.O

Yes, you run FotM and can killed a heavy.

However as you say in your sig, your a heavy.

Why do you defend heavies that prove themselves OP as all ****?
I mean 18/0, seen assaults do it. Done better in a scout.

33/3 in STD? Yeah, that's where I draw the line.

Really? FotM? I have proto Min/Ammar assault, Min Scout, Amarr Commando, Amarr/Gal heavy, and I'm FotM? I can kill any heavy in any of those suits, I have many times and will continue to do so.

You clearly missed the term "flavor of the month" because it's the ONE thing that's OP as hell and everyone does. Saying my 6 different suits and weapons are FotM is just an ignorant statement to start with.

I can kill a heavy with either combat rifle, either ScR, Massdriver, Shotgun, Nova knives, SMG, bolt pistol, grenades, remotes, or wtf ever else you want to toss in my hands.

If 80% of everything is FotM, just give the **** up and quit o.O

What I am saying here, is that a good player, no matter what they put on, will do well. Especially if they know how to use what they are using. There is a time and a place for everything, hence why we skill into different things and form squads.

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sir RAVEN WING Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 3135	Posted - 2015.03.08 03:25:00 - [1] - Quote They are meant to go 33/3 and be immune to bullets and PLCs. *Fuck the silver, let's go for the gold* . *I am what haunts your dreams at night.*
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 578	Posted - 2015.03.08 03:33:00 - [2] - Quote But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: I can take heavies down with an Adv. ScR and breach SMG combo pretty darn good actually. Mayhaps you should try not standing directly in front of the MINIGUN while shooting them? The new C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y, I'm that Heavy you warn your team about <3 -Heavy/Logi/Assault/Scout-
Crimson ShieId Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 2057	Posted - 2015.03.08 03:34:00 - [3] - Quote I'm still more scared of the cloaked shotgun scout. Least the heavy can be easily RE'd... I still blame Mr. Mustard for making me fear them... I want to punch.
VAHZZ 760	Posted - 2015.03.08 03:35:00 - [4] - Quote Dude, I die all the time to dam shotty scouts. Even when I go 3 complex armor and 1 complex rep, I still get 2-3hko. *The supreme art of war, is to subdue the enemy without fighting*.
sir RAVEN WING Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 3135	Posted - 2015.03.08 03:42:00 - [5] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: I can take heavies down with an Adv. ScR and breach SMG combo pretty darn good actually. Mayhaps you should try not standing directly in front of the MINIGUN while shooting them? Actually I got shot 30m away. In a shield tank... While my PLC shot phased through him... He went 33/3 that match, I wouldn't have pointed it out should it have been anything else. 4 heavies that game, their scores were: 33/3 29/4 18/0 24/1 Only 1 logi in the whole game. I went positive, barely. 9/8. Shotgun scout: Killed before he can reach heavy RE: See above Cloak scout: Seen instantly while cloaked. (Poor guy... I know how annoying it is.) *Fuck the silver, let's go for the gold* . *I am what haunts your dreams at night.*
DAAAA BEAST Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 880	Posted - 2015.03.08 03:44:00 - [6] - Quote Do my eyes deceive me ? You're in my corp ! Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaay !!!!!!!!!!! Also let me guess , Forced Death convinced you ? Gave him the personnel manager task and look how well he recruits ! What a beast ! Hope to play with you next time I get on :) *My New YT Channel !* Join Gû¦Corrosive Synergy Gùä
Eruditus 920 Nemo Malus Felix 1404	Posted - 2015.03.08 03:48:00 - [7] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: I can take heavies down with an Adv. ScR and breach SMG combo pretty darn good actually. Mayhaps you should try not standing directly in front of the MINIGUN while shooting them? Ah yes, the time honored argument. Don't stand in front of the shotgun or CR. How ignorant does that sound? "Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
D4GG3R KILL-EM-QUICK 818	Posted - 2015.03.08 03:49:00 - [8] - Quote Probably doing it wrong I'm pretty plain. I watch anime for the boobs
sir RAVEN WING Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 3136	Posted - 2015.03.08 03:53:00 - [9] - Quote DAAAA BEAST wrote: Do my eyes deceive me ? You're in my corp ! Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaay !!!!!!!!!!! Also let me guess , Forced Death convinced you ? Gave him the personnel manager task and look how well he recruits ! What a beast ! Hope to play with you next time I get on :) Actually, no. I came in on my own agenda. *Fuck the silver, let's go for the gold* . *I am what haunts your dreams at night.*
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 579	Posted - 2015.03.08 04:03:00 - [10] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: I can take heavies down with an Adv. ScR and breach SMG combo pretty darn good actually. Mayhaps you should try not standing directly in front of the MINIGUN while shooting them? Actually I got shot 30m away. In a shield tank... While my PLC shot phased through him... He went 33/3 that match, I wouldn't have pointed it out should it have been anything else. 4 heavies that game, their scores were: 33/3 29/4 18/0 24/1 Only 1 logi in the whole game. I went positive, barely. 9/8. Shotgun scout: Killed before he can reach heavy RE: See above Cloak scout: Seen instantly while cloaked. (Poor guy... I know how annoying it is.) Clearly your doing something wrong. Also you should bring friends along. The new C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y, I'm that Heavy you warn your team about <3 -Heavy/Logi/Assault/Scout-

Operative 1174 Uuali Y.A.M.A.H 472	Posted - 2015.03.08 04:08:00 - [11] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: I can take heavies down with an Adv. ScR and breach SMG combo pretty darn good actually. Mayhaps you should try not standing directly in front of the MINIGUN while shooting them? Yes, I do so like how this game is designed around long range combat. Why just the other day I capped an objective by just scoping in with my sniper rifle from the redline. No, not one bit of beelining, arena crap play like Quake and Unreal of old. Nope, not one bit. Death is a serious business. So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
DeadlyAztec11 Defenders of the Helghast Dream 7878	Posted - 2015.03.08 04:13:00 - [12] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: Here's the thing though, every other suit is way easier to kill with those ' counters ' you listed than heavies. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 579	Posted - 2015.03.08 04:15:00 - [13] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: I can take heavies down with an Adv. ScR and breach SMG combo pretty darn good actually. Mayhaps you should try not standing directly in front of the MINIGUN while shooting them? Ah yes, the time honored argument. Don't stand in front of the shotgun or CR. How ignorant does that sound? It sounds very ignorant. Since a shotgun and CR are usually attached to something moving very fast and a HMG is attached to something usually stationary or slow. Honestly, I kill most people with my HMG by them running directly into the end of the barrel, hence the "time honored" argument. Like the winds of time will carry them past my barrage of bullets, then they wonder wtf could have went wrong and why they didn't kill me. I've had more then enough people sneak up behind me, or kill me from a safe distance, the smart thing to do. Charging a bull head on is stupid and you shouldn't question why you got your *** kicked from doing it. The effective range of the HMG is outdone by all Assault weapons, for a good reason. Your screen tells you the distance from me to you as well. The new C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y, I'm that Heavy you warn your team about <3 -Heavy/Logi/Assault/Scout-
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 579	Posted - 2015.03.08 04:20:00 - [14] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: Here's the thing though, every other suit is way easier to kill with those ' counters ' you listed than heavies. And every other suit is faster and can carry equipment. I could understand everyone crying about it if the suit didn't have any drawbacks as everyone makes it seem. Not to mention the heavy suit's scan, you should almost always be able to see where it is. Have you noticed there are more then enough people out there who can kill a heavy suit with ease? Maybe you should take a minute to analyze what they are doing right. I actually run Min/Amarr assault, Min scout, I can kill a heavy fairly easy in each one. I really don't see what the big deal is o.O The new C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y, I'm that Heavy you warn your team about <3 -Heavy/Commando/Logi/Assault/Scout-
sir RAVEN WING Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 3138	Posted - 2015.03.08 04:26:00 - [15] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: I can take heavies down with an Adv. ScR and breach SMG combo pretty darn good actually. Mayhaps you should try not standing directly in front of the MINIGUN while shooting them? Actually I got shot 30m away. In a shield tank... While my PLC shot phased through him... He went 33/3 that match, I wouldn't have pointed it out should it have been anything else. 4 heavies that game, their scores were: 33/3 29/4 18/0 24/1 Only 1 logi in the whole game. I went positive, barely. 9/8. Shotgun scout: Killed before he can reach heavy RE: See above Cloak scout: Seen instantly while cloaked. (Poor guy... I know how annoying it is.) Clearly your doing something wrong. Also you should bring friends along. I had a squad, who was doing everything they could, but it didn't work. I used a ADV CR, a PRO ACR, ADV PLC, ADV MD, PRO RR, PRO ARR. None of it worked, they simply retreated. The only thing that I saw kill a Heavy was my PLC shots in a crowded room. I was then killed my a HMG. I am getting exceptionally annoyed with the 'Heavies are fine going 33/3' people. *To anger a calm man like me is a near impossible task...* *...One that only DUST 514 has accomplished*
sir RAVEN WING Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 3140	Posted - 2015.03.08 04:30:00 - [16] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: Here's the thing though, every other suit is way easier to kill with those ' counters ' you listed than heavies. And every other suit is faster and can carry equipment. I could understand everyone crying about it if the suit didn't have any drawbacks as everyone makes it seem. Not to mention the heavy suit's scan, you should almost always be able to see where it is. Have you noticed there are more then enough people out there who can kill a heavy suit with ease? Maybe you should take a minute to analyze what they are doing right. I actually run Min/Amarr assault, Min scout, I can kill a heavy fairly easy in each one. I really don't see what the big deal is o.O Yes, you run FotM and can killed a heavy. However as you say in your sig, your a heavy. Why do you defend heavies that prove themselves OP as all **? I mean 18/0, seen assaults do it. Done better in a scout. 33/3 in STD? Yeah, that's where I draw the line. To anger a calm man like me is a near impossible task... ...One that only DUST 514 has accomplished**
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 579	Posted - 2015.03.08 04:32:00 - [17] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: I can take heavies down with an Adv. ScR and breach SMG combo pretty darn good actually. Mayhaps you should try not standing directly in front of the MINIGUN while shooting them? Actually I got shot 30m away. In a shield tank... While my PLC shot phased through him... He went 33/3 that match, I wouldn't have pointed it out should it have been anything else. 4 heavies that game, their scores were: 33/3 29/4 18/0 24/1 Only 1 logi in the whole game. I went positive, barely. 9/8. Shotgun scout: Killed before he can reach heavy RE: See above Cloak scout: Seen instantly while cloaked. (Poor guy... I know how annoying it is.) Clearly your doing something wrong. Also you should bring friends along. I had a squad, who was doing everything they could, but it didn't work. I used a ADV CR, a PRO ACR, ADV PLC, ADV MD, PRO RR, PRO ARR. None of it worked, they simply retreated. The only thing that I saw kill a Heavy was my PLC shots in a crowded room. I was then killed my a HMG. I am getting exceptionally annoyed with the 'Heavies are fine going 33/3' people. So it's wrong for a heavy to go 33/3 but okay for any other suit is what your trying to say? I've seen proto heavies go negative and assault/scout users go better then 33/3. Honestly if I failed that bad trying to kill them, I would have just walked away to another point. ......Waaaait, were you in that match, the skirmish at bravo, where there is only the two ways in. The drop down in the back and the road out front? The new C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y, I'm that Heavy you warn your team about <3 -Heavy/Commando/Logi/Assault/Scout-
DeadlyAztec11 Defenders of the Helghast Dream 7879	Posted - 2015.03.08 04:38:00 - [18] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: Here's the thing though, every other suit is way easier to kill with those ' counters ' you listed than heavies. And every other suit is faster and can carry equipment. I could understand everyone crying about it if the suit didn't have any drawbacks as everyone makes it seem. Not to mention the heavy suit's scan, you should almost always be able to see where it is. Have you noticed there are more then enough people out there who can kill a heavy suit with ease? Maybe you should take a minute to analyze what they are doing right. I actually run Min/Amarr assault, Min scout, I can kill a heavy fairly easy in each one. I really don't see what the big deal is o.O Yes, you run FotM and can killed a heavy. However as you say in your sig, your a heavy. Why do you defend heavies that prove themselves OP as all ****? I mean 18/0, seen assaults do it. Done better in a scout. 33/3 in STD? Yeah, that's where I draw the line. Exactly, boasting that you can kill a heavy with a super strafing suit is a completely unfair resolution. Strafing is clearly broken. If it takes a broken mechanic to make you competitive against an entire class(Sentinels) then that class is not balanced. Before anyone replies just take note that I have had Minmatar Assault to Proto since Uprising launched. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 579	Posted - 2015.03.08 04:40:00 - [19] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: Here's the thing though, every other suit is way easier to kill with those ' counters ' you listed than heavies. And every other suit is faster and can carry equipment. I could understand everyone crying about it if the suit didn't have any drawbacks as everyone makes it seem. Not to mention the heavy suit's scan, you should almost always be able to see where it is. Have you noticed there are more then enough people out there who can kill a heavy suit with ease? Maybe you should take a minute to analyze what they are doing right. I actually run Min/Amarr assault, Min scout, I can kill a heavy fairly easy in each one. I really don't see what the big deal is o.O Yes, you run FotM and can killed a heavy. However as you say in your sig, your a heavy. Why do you defend heavies that prove themselves OP as all **? I mean 18/0, seen assaults do it. Done better in a scout. 33/3 in STD? Yeah, that's where I draw the line. Really? FotM? I have proto Min/Ammar assault, Min Scout, Amarr Commando, Amarr/Gal heavy, and I'm FotM? I can kill any heavy in any of those suits, I have many times and will continue to do so. You clearly missed the term "flavor of the month" because it's the ONE thing that's OP as hell and everyone does. Saying my 6 different suits and weapons are FotM is just an ignorant statement to start with. I can kill a heavy with either combat rifle, either ScR, Massdriver, Shotgun, Nova knives, SMG, bolt pistol, grenades, remotes, or wtf ever else you want to toss in my hands. If 80% of everything is FotM, just give the ** up and quit o.O What I am saying here, is that a good player, no matter what they put on, will do well. Especially if they know how to use what they are using. There is a time and a place for everything, hence why we skill into different things and form squads. The new C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y, I'm that Heavy you warn your team about <3 -Heavy/Commando/Logi/Assault/Scout-
WeapondigitX V7 The Exemplars RISE of LEGION 253	Posted - 2015.03.08 04:43:00 - [20] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: I can take heavies down with an Adv. ScR and breach SMG combo pretty darn good actually. Mayhaps you should try not standing directly in front of the MINIGUN while shooting them? Actually I got shot 30m away. In a shield tank... While my PLC shot phased through him... He went 33/3 that match, I wouldn't have pointed it out should it have been anything else. 4 heavies that game, their scores were: 33/3 29/4 18/0 24/1 Only 1 logi in the whole game. I went positive, barely. 9/8. Shotgun scout: Killed before he can reach heavy RE: See above Cloak scout: Seen instantly while cloaked. (Poor guy... I know how annoying it is.) That scout clearly relied too much on cloak or was unlucky a few times. Shotgun scouts usually only work consistently against vets when you only have 10m to 22m between your cover and the target. If you run at them at longer distances your probably going to be seen. You can still be unlucky at 15m runs. Did those heavies camp a objective or move around a lot. You can ambush them with pre placed REs if they move around a lot. Use your self as a homing beacon around corners and doorways. Don't put REs at mid height or the middle of the floor. Put them on the floor next to a wall at a corner of a door etc. They are harder to notice. Or use a shotgun assault suit with 1 PRO dampener but use it like a scout. You will have opportunities to get close ad kill the logi, die, then kill a heavy, die, kill etc. Your doing a 1vs4 or 1 vs 5. You should expect to die unfortunately in cities. If many allies attack a entrance, you should use the other one 2 seconds later after your allies attack, that's enough time for the enemies to turn away from your flanking path.

sir RAVEN WING Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 3140	Posted - 2015.03.08 04:44:00 - [21] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: I can take heavies down with an Adv. ScR and breach SMG combo pretty darn good actually. Mayhaps you should try not standing directly in front of the MINIGUN while shooting them? Actually I got shot 30m away. In a shield tank... While my PLC shot phased through him... He went 33/3 that match, I wouldn't have pointed it out should it have been anything else. 4 heavies that game, their scores were: 33/3 29/4 18/0 24/1 Only 1 logi in the whole game. I went positive, barely. 9/8. Shotgun scout: Killed before he can reach heavy RE: See above Cloak scout: Seen instantly while cloaked. (Poor guy... I know how annoying it is.) Clearly your doing something wrong. Also you should bring friends along. I had a squad, who was doing everything they could, but it didn't work. I used a ADV CR, a PRO ACR, ADV PLC, ADV MD, PRO RR, PRO ARR. None of it worked, they simply retreated. The only thing that I saw kill a Heavy was my PLC shots in a crowded room. I was then killed my a HMG. I am getting exceptionally annoyed with the 'Heavies are fine going 33/3' people. So it's wrong for a heavy to go 33/3 but okay for any other suit is what your trying to say? I've seen proto heavies go negative and assault/scout users go better then 33/3. Honestly if I failed that bad trying to kill them, I would have just walked away to another point. ......Waaaait, were you in that match, the skirmish at bravo, where there is only the two ways in. The drop down in the back and the road out front? Once in a while it is okay to have that score, but when people running that suit can get good K/Ds without trying. I have a Heavy suit at all times, but rarely use it due to the fact that it's far too easy to use. No, I was not. *To anger a calm man like me is a near impossible task...* *...One that only DUST 514 has accomplished*
Eruditus 920 Nemo Malus Felix 1404	Posted - 2015.03.08 04:48:00 - [22] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: Here's the thing though, every other suit is way easier to kill with those ' counters ' you listed than heavies. And every other suit is faster and can carry equipment. I could understand everyone crying about it if the suit didn't have any drawbacks as everyone makes it seem. Not to mention the heavy suit's scan, you should almost always be able to see where it is. Have you noticed there are more then enough people out there who can kill a heavy suit with ease? Maybe you should take a minute to analyze what they are doing right. I actually run Min/Amarr assault, Min scout, I can kill a heavy fairly easy in each one. I really don't see what the big deal is o.O Yes, you run FotM and can killed a heavy. However as you say in your sig, your a heavy. Why do you defend heavies that prove themselves OP as all **? I mean 18/0, seen assaults do it. Done better in a scout. 33/3 in STD? Yeah, that's where I draw the line. Really? FotM? I have proto Min/Ammar assault, Min Scout, Amarr Commando, Amarr/Gal heavy, and I'm FotM? I can kill any heavy in any of those suits, I have many times and will continue to do so. You clearly missed the term "flavor of the month" because it's the ONE thing that's OP as hell and everyone does. Saying my 6 different suits and weapons are FotM is just an ignorant statement to start with. I can kill a heavy with either combat rifle, either ScR, Massdriver, Shotgun, Nova knives, SMG, bolt pistol, grenades, remotes, or wtf ever else you want to toss in my hands. If 80% of everything is FotM, just give the ** up and quit o.O What I am saying here, is that a good player, no matter what they put on, will do well. Especially if they know how to use what they are using. There is a time and a place for everything, hence why we skill into different things and form squads. I'm just going to come right out and say you sound like a complete dumbass who is clearly in damage control mode of their crutch HMG play style that is finally, after forever, getting the nerf with Echo that is long deserved. More should follow. Your arguments that "anything can kill anything" just sounds desperate and frankly childish. Don't you feel silly? Reads like the old scout threads. "Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
WeapondigitX V7 The Exemplars RISE of LEGION 253	Posted - 2015.03.08 04:51:00 - [23] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: But we die instantly to shotguns and RE's. And Combat rifles... And Rail Rifles... Yeah, maybe your just doing it wrong D: Here's the thing though, every other suit is way easier to kill with those ' counters ' you listed than heavies. And every other suit is faster and can carry equipment. I could understand everyone crying about it if the suit didn't have any drawbacks as everyone makes it seem. Not to mention the heavy suit's scan, you should almost always be able to see where it is. Have you noticed there are more then enough people out there who can kill a heavy suit with ease? Maybe you should take a minute to analyze what they are doing right. I actually run Min/Amarr assault, Min scout, I can kill a heavy fairly easy in each one. I really don't see what the big deal is o.O Yes, you run FotM and can killed a heavy. However as you say in your sig, your a heavy. Why do you defend heavies that prove themselves OP as all ****? I mean 18/0, seen assaults do it. Done better in a scout. 33/3 in STD? Yeah, that's where I draw the line. there are players such as me that have gone 40/3 in std gear in amarr scouts and many assault suits. Keep in mind that regardless of a suits strengths and power, its the player and hes squad that make them do well most of the time. Getting high scores usually means that your enemy does not change slightly to adapt to the situation. (slight changes in suit or suit type etc) Back in beta I would get high scores of 25/2 in starter fits consistently, because the enemy was usually kept getting out witted and such. High scores can happen for other reasons instead of a suit being OP.
sir RAVEN WING Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 3140	Posted - 2015.03.08 04:57:00 - [24] - Quote Digit, I have done better in Closed Beta. Back then everyone was stupid except for a few. I was one of the few. Nothing to brag about back then. *To anger a calm man like me is a near impossible task...* *...One that only DUST 514 has accomplished*
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 579	Posted - 2015.03.08 05:06:00 - [25] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Once in a while it is okay to have that score, but when people running that suit can get good K/Ds without trying. I have a Heavy suit at all times, but rarely use it due to the fact that it's far too easy to use. No, I was not. Those people don't last in the long run though. You can tell because they get dropped like a fly when they actually run up on someone who knows what they are doing. A real heavy knows it's not about the kills, anyone who runs heavy in PC a lot knows that. Honestly, I prefer my Amarr assault suit now, though I find my commando to be the most amusing and fun <3 Ah, thought you mighta been, me and my buddies decided to take a couple heavies, logis, and scouts and just hold down that one point for the whole game xD The new C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y, I'm that Heavy you warn your team about <3 -Heavy/Commando/Logi/Assault/Scout-
syzygiet General Tso's Alliance 24	Posted - 2015.03.08 05:10:00 - [26] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: 4 heavies that game, their scores were: 33/3 29/4 18/0 24/1 Only 1 logi in the whole game. I went positive, barely. 9/8. Shotgun scout: Killed before he can reach heavy RE: See above Cloak scout: Seen instantly while cloaked. (Poor guy... I know how annoying it is.) Stat from one game doesnt make a winning argument.
Big miku Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 498	Posted - 2015.03.08 05:12:00 - [27] - Quote I wonder how many Heavy Players dominate the Weekly Kill boards.
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 580	Posted - 2015.03.08 05:15:00 - [28] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: I'm just going to come right out and say you sound like a complete dumbass who is clearly in damage control mode of their crutch HMG play style that is finally, after forever, getting the nerf with Echo that is long deserved. More should follow. Your arguments that "anything can kill anything" just sounds desperate and frankly childish. Don't you feel silly? Reads like the old scout threads. The first thing you come at me with is an insult, makes you sound like a child. Clearly you missed the part where I said I also play with at least 4 non-heavy suits and weapons. Proto in them all and I play with them more collectively them my heavy. The heavy will still have it's role to play and I will continue to use it when it's appropriate. Never heard of "The right tool for the right job" huh? I mean, if I hadn't killed every kind of suit in the game at one point or another, using militia variants of everything (I do this periodically to see what I want to skill into next) then I would indeed feel silly. Since your brain cells are clearly too busy fighting for oxygen, I'll go ahead and point out that it's more then just a game of "Oh a red berry, -pewpew-", and you should think before engaging your opponent. Ask anyone who is actually good at the game if they can kill a heavy suit c; The new C.EO. of G.L.O.R.Y, I'm that Heavy you warn your team about <3 -Heavy/Commando/Logi/Assault/Scout-
sir RAVEN WING Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 3140	Posted - 2015.03.08 05:31:00 - [29] - Quote Broke out my Heavy just now. Went 29/0. I feel disgusting. *To anger a calm man like me is a near impossible task...* *...One that only DUST 514 has accomplished*
Big miku Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 500	Posted - 2015.03.08 05:33:00 - [30] - Quote Broke out my Heavy just now Went 145/0 I feel Sexy



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