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Bremen van Equis
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Posted - 2015.02.28 02:17:00 -
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Echo:
Yes: running swarms while being effectively able to defend yourself would require skill(ing into commando and a proper light weapon).
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MrShooter01
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Posted - 2015.02.28 02:22:00 -
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Would just like to note that in Planetside 2 and Battlefield 3, the presence of Flares, IR smoke, etc for every vehicle does absolutely nothing to stem the tide of bitching about no-skill lock ons on the forums.
Not that I'm against swarm countermeasures, don't get me wrong. If I could snap my fingers and give you a flare module right now that made swarms stop following you when activated, I'd do it.
But don't kid yourselves.
Just like your brethren in the other games, you'll move the goalposts and start crying about how inconvenient it is that you have to wait at all for your countermeasures to recharge before you can start rocketpodding infantry again because no-skill lockons are keeping you away from the fight.
Then when everyone starts switching to the PLC and Forge, suddenly those are going to be unfair and overpowered. You'll probably figure out a way to call them unskilled, too, I have faith in you |
Bremen van Equis
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Posted - 2015.02.28 02:32:00 -
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PS2 BF4
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Edit: BF3GǪsorry broseph...
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Bremen van Equis
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Posted - 2015.02.28 02:35:00 -
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PS: PLC is EZ mode since they buffed the projectile speed. I wreck with a PLC bro-han.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2015.02.28 02:58:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:
lol, that explains why 80% of dust players can't fly a dropship.. Seriously if you think swarms take still, you probably think unconsciously breathing takes skill.
There are a lot of people who don't know how to ride a bike, read in their native language, use/apply basic math, or even prepare a sandwich. That does not change the fact that all of those skills are incredibly basic and easily accomplished.
Though I am interested to see your stats proving that 80% of players can't operate a Dropship.
As for whether or not Swarms take still, I'm not sure how one can assess "still" and its perquisites but I'm going to claim that it doesn't take "still" because remaining stationary with a Swarm will only kill vehicles without operators.
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Posted - 2015.02.28 03:05:00 -
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Bremen van Equis wrote:PS: PLC is EZ mode since they buffed the projectile speed. I wreck with a PLC bro-han.
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Bremen van Equis
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Posted - 2015.02.28 03:24:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsCc4wtSSsA
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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN
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Posted - 2015.02.28 16:17:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:
lol, that explains why 80% of dust players can't fly a dropship.. Seriously if you think swarms take still, you probably think unconsciously breathing takes skill.
There are a lot of people who don't know how to ride a bike, read in their native language, use/apply basic math, or even prepare a sandwich. That does not change the fact that all of those skills are incredibly basic and easily accomplished. Though I am interested to see your stats proving that 80% of players can't operate a Dropship. As for whether or not Swarms take still, I'm not sure how one can assess "still" and its perquisites but I'm going to claim that it doesn't take "still" because remaining stationary with a Swarm will only kill vehicles without operators.
Riding a bike takes more skill than swarms. Swarms you hold R1 and release. A freking brain dead person can do that and say it's easy. And then there is you.... lol.
Edit: A brain dead person can also jerk around the left joy stick and say it's easy. And then again, there is you...
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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2015.02.28 16:24:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:True Adamance wrote:Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:I'd liek swarms to have some kinda minimum object clearence (except vehicles obvs lol) just so they skim over the ground by 3m so HAVs can't 'headglitch' on a hill or building as the swarms target the centre of the mass. So you mean using defilade and enfilade is now "out"? well thems some fancy words for a man of my literary abilities so all i'll say is that 20,000 years into the future you'd expect them to be able to make a guided missile that doesn't fly into the ground instead of the target when confronted with a 6" ridge just because the centre of the vehicle happens to be below it. in the past the swarms would just fly above the vehicle and then come straight down on top. witht he new turning angle they're a little too dumb when it comes to hitting HAVs sat just below the peak of a hill
Swarms fly 3" above the ground to hit me behind a gently sloping road.
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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2015.02.28 16:25:00 -
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Same thing happens to me.
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Sir Dukey
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Posted - 2015.02.28 16:28:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Same thing happens to me.
That tanker is sh*t, why didn't he activate one of his two flipping hardeners?
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ReGnYuM
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Posted - 2015.02.28 16:30:00 -
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Anybody notice that OP posts exactly how he talks 
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Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2015.02.28 16:32:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Same thing happens to me. That tanker is sh*t, why didn't he activate one of his two flipping hardeners?
It really doesn't matter, the true talking point is about how the swarms flew over the terrain and small hills and not hit them then went around the silo and how the 3rd volley went around all of the above the silo and then around the building.
Here we have players who still say 'swarms are fine and require skill' |
Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
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Posted - 2015.02.28 16:33:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:
Riding a bike takes more skill than swarms. Swarms you hold R1 and release. A freking brain dead person can do that and say it's easy. And then there is you.... lol.
Edit: A brain dead person can also jerk around the left joy stick and say it's easy. And then again, there is you...
Reading in your native language also takes more skill than piloting. All you have to is hold down R2 and flick the joystick up to activate the modules.
My dog can do that, but can you?
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Sir Dukey
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Posted - 2015.02.28 16:35:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:
Riding a bike takes more skill than swarms. Swarms you hold R1 and release. A freking brain dead person can do that and say it's easy. And then there is you.... lol.
Edit: A brain dead person can also jerk around the left joy stick and say it's easy. And then again, there is you...
Reading in your native language also takes more skill than piloting. All you have to is hold down R2 and flick the joystick up to activate the modules. My dog can do that, but can you?
lol, no wonder majority (not saying 80% because Atiim takes everything literally) of the player in this game cannot pilot.
Also, Afterburners are sh*t and don't work.
flying on a 3D plane is much harder than walking around on a 2D plane. Not to mention, you actually have to aim instead of lock on scrubby ****.
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Sir Dukey
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Posted - 2015.02.28 16:36:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Same thing happens to me. That tanker is sh*t, why didn't he activate one of his two flipping hardeners? It really doesn't matter, the true talking point is about how the swarms flew over the terrain and small hills and not hit them then went around the silo and how the 3rd volley went around all of the above the silo and then around the building. Here we have players who still say 'swarms are fine and require skill'
Lol, ik but why risk it? You had two hardeners? You have a brain fart?
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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2015.02.28 16:36:00 -
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Bremen van Equis wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsCc4wtSSsA
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ReGnYuM
State of Purgatory
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.28 16:40:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Atiim wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:
Riding a bike takes more skill than swarms. Swarms you hold R1 and release. A freking brain dead person can do that and say it's easy. And then there is you.... lol.
Edit: A brain dead person can also jerk around the left joy stick and say it's easy. And then again, there is you...
Reading in your native language also takes more skill than piloting. All you have to is hold down R2 and flick the joystick up to activate the modules. My dog can do that, but can you? lol, no wonder majority (not saying 80% because Atiim takes everything literally) of the player in this game cannot pilot. Also, Afterburners are sh*t and don't work. flying on a 3D plane is much harder than walking around on a 2D plane.
Durkey, its a HOVER transport ship with a front gun attached to it. Lets not play Mr. Top Gun ok Bud... |
Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2015.02.28 16:42:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Same thing happens to me. That tanker is sh*t, why didn't he activate one of his two flipping hardeners?
Agreed
But I doubt he did it to illustrate bad pilots.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2015.02.28 16:44:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:
lol, no wonder majority (not saying 80% because Atiim takes everything literally) of the player in this game cannot pilot.
Also, Afterburners are sh*t and don't work.
flying on a 3D plane is much harder than walking around on a 2D plane.
The majority of players in this game cannot operate vehicles properly because said majority is terrible, and flying on a 3D plane is easy because you can move in any direction you want with a very limited set of obstacles.
Meanwhile on the 2D plane your movement has to comply with a vast amount of obstacles and other differences in the terrain (ie, Hills) which have a host of glitches that can easily get you killed.
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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2015.02.28 16:45:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:
lol, no wonder majority (not saying 80% because Atiim takes everything literally) of the player in this game cannot pilot.
Also, Afterburners are sh*t and don't work.
flying on a 3D plane is much harder than walking around on a 2D plane.
The majority of players in this game cannot operate vehicles properly because said majority is terrible, and flying on a 3D plane is easy because you can move in any direction you want with a very limited set of obstacles. Meanwhile on the 2D plane your movement has to comply with a vast amount of obstacles and other differences in the terrain (ie, Hills) which have a host of glitches that can easily get you killed.
You just won't accept that vehicles are hard to use.
Dunno what you mean about this "majority of pilots."
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Sir Dukey
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Posted - 2015.02.28 16:51:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:
lol, no wonder majority (not saying 80% because Atiim takes everything literally) of the player in this game cannot pilot.
Also, Afterburners are sh*t and don't work.
flying on a 3D plane is much harder than walking around on a 2D plane.
The majority of players in this game cannot operate vehicles properly because said majority is terrible, and flying on a 3D plane is easy because you can move in any direction you want with a very limited set of obstacles. Meanwhile on the 2D plane your movement has to comply with a vast amount of obstacles and other differences in the terrain (ie, Hills) which have a host of glitches that can easily get you killed.
Well, how do you explain that a majority of the population (According to you which is also terrible) can operate swarms with ease and hit my ADS?
P.S. I don't believe there are many glitches and it doesn't matter hill or not, you have lock on weapon.
Seriously, you think being on a 2D plane is harder than a 3D plane. That's like saying it's easier to use a jetpack than walk (excluding the disabled).
Edit: you act like there are no glitches when flying.
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Sir Dukey
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Posted - 2015.02.28 16:51:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Atiim wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:
lol, no wonder majority (not saying 80% because Atiim takes everything literally) of the player in this game cannot pilot.
Also, Afterburners are sh*t and don't work.
flying on a 3D plane is much harder than walking around on a 2D plane.
The majority of players in this game cannot operate vehicles properly because said majority is terrible, and flying on a 3D plane is easy because you can move in any direction you want with a very limited set of obstacles. Meanwhile on the 2D plane your movement has to comply with a vast amount of obstacles and other differences in the terrain (ie, Hills) which have a host of glitches that can easily get you killed. You just won't accept that vehicles are hard to use. Dunno what you mean about this "majority of pilots."
Exactly, there are like 10-20 pilots in the game max that can proficiently fly and actually be useful.
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Sir Dukey
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Posted - 2015.02.28 16:52:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:Atiim wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:
Riding a bike takes more skill than swarms. Swarms you hold R1 and release. A freking brain dead person can do that and say it's easy. And then there is you.... lol.
Edit: A brain dead person can also jerk around the left joy stick and say it's easy. And then again, there is you...
Reading in your native language also takes more skill than piloting. All you have to is hold down R2 and flick the joystick up to activate the modules. My dog can do that, but can you? lol, no wonder majority (not saying 80% because Atiim takes everything literally) of the player in this game cannot pilot. Also, Afterburners are sh*t and don't work. flying on a 3D plane is much harder than walking around on a 2D plane. Durkey, its a HOVER transport ship with a front gun attached to it. Lets not play Mr. Top Gun ok Bud...
You have a lock on weapon and are arguing it takes skill. Oh come on...
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Posted - 2015.02.28 16:53:00 -
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*in mean time devs from CCP trying implementation of pilot suit to Dust 514
Sooooon ;p
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Atiim
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Posted - 2015.02.28 16:57:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:
Well, how do you explain that a majority of the population (According to you which is also terrible) can operate swarms with ease and hit my ADS?
Seriously, you think being on a 2D plane is harder than a 3D plane. That's like saying it's easier to use a jetpack than walk (excluding the disabled).
Swarm Launcher remains the 4th least used primary weapon (20k sales per day on average, which also makes it less used than most sidearms), so the majority of the population are not operating Swarm Launchers.
Movement on the 3D plane in real life is not movement on the plane in a video game, which makes your comparison invalid. However as far as DUST 514 is concerned I stand by my earlier assertion.
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Sir Dukey
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Posted - 2015.02.28 17:03:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:
Well, how do you explain that a majority of the population (According to you which is also terrible) can operate swarms with ease and hit my ADS?
Seriously, you think being on a 2D plane is harder than a 3D plane. That's like saying it's easier to use a jetpack than walk (excluding the disabled).
Swarm Launcher remains the 4th least used primary weapon (20k sales per day on average, which also makes it less used than most sidearms), so the majority of the population are not operating Swarm Launchers. Movement on the 3D plane in real life is not movement on the plane in a video game, which makes your comparison invalid. However as far as DUST 514 is concerned I stand by my earlier assertion.
Well, why would people use swarms if only a super minority of the players actually pilot?
Anyway, you are literally the only person in the history of Dust to argue swarms take more skill than ADS. I'd bet you'd be the first person to argue that a lock on Assault rifle that has better sustained DPS than the other rifles take skill. It's just the kind of person you are. You are the voice of the skill-less.
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Bremen van Equis
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Posted - 2015.02.28 17:19:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Bremen van Equis wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsCc4wtSSsA
Each shot did enough damage that you got +75 for each shot.
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Posted - 2015.02.28 17:27:00 -
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Bremen van Equis wrote:Atiim wrote:
3. I'd rather lick the ground than prance around while not contributing to the team in any way, shape, or form.
So you agree vehicles are broken. Thanks dude.
Lmao, I cant believe he actually puts swarms and vehicles in the same skill bracket. I knew attim would grace this thread when I made it, I just wasnt sure how. Its amusing how in the same breath he says how easy vehicles are, then goes on to say they dont accomplish anything at all.
This is mostly due to his own (in) experience flying in the face of overly strong AV, getting crushed in moments. I reeeaaallllyyy wanna see footage of attim flying
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Sir Dukey
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Posted - 2015.02.28 18:09:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Bremen van Equis wrote:Atiim wrote:
3. I'd rather lick the ground than prance around while not contributing to the team in any way, shape, or form.
So you agree vehicles are broken. Thanks dude. Lmao, I cant believe he actually puts swarms and vehicles in the same skill bracket. I knew attim would grace this thread when I made it, I just wasnt sure how. Its amusing how in the same breath he says how easy vehicles are, then goes on to say they dont accomplish anything at all. This is mostly due to his own (in) experience flying in the face of overly strong AV, getting crushed in moments. I reeeaaallllyyy wanna see footage of attim flying
He would never fly because he doesn't want to admit it takes skill. It's like those kids that skip school on the day of the test to avoid it because they know they are gonna fail.
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