Oh rly now?

so by that logic if my suit cost a third of what ur ship does u should be able to hang around just long enuff to kill two or three infantry then die or run away. correct?

so its skill vs reward now?
i thought it was risk vs reward.
how many times do u think commandos get insta gibbed by shotty scouts while trying to get a lock?
im basically a squishy blind heavy with 1 light weapon and no nades.

dont get me wrong i fly too, i get it, swarms seem balanced to shield vehicles with makes them wreck armour.
but all av is that way... even vehicle turrets. theres a bigger issue here than "omg swarms are op"

The first volley hit you before you turned the corner and I can tell the second volley was already very close to you by the time between the volleys; so this doesn't prove anything other than the fact that Swarms very close to you are going to hit you.

However, if you'd truly to see if Swarms can travel around buildings, fire a volley at a DS and have that DS immediately travel behind the building. If they volleys still hit, than your point will be proven


Vehicles require no skill either, all that needs to be done to survive is activate 1-2 modules and then drive off before the modules expire and I'll never lose to an AVer, or any vehicle who doesn't do the same.

Couple that with the fact that the need to compensate for target movement is rarely present and the fact that any situation deemed unfavorable can be evaded in seconds, and you've got a nice heaping pile of EZ.

There are a lot of people who don't know how to ride a bike, read in their native language, use/apply basic math, or even prepare a sandwich. That does not change the fact that all of those skills are incredibly basic and easily accomplished.

Though I am interested to see your stats proving that 80% of players can't operate a Dropship.

As for whether or not Swarms take still, I'm not sure how one can assess "still" and its perquisites but I'm going to claim that it doesn't take "still" because remaining stationary with a Swarm will only kill vehicles without operators.

Same thing happens to me.

Reading in your native language also takes more skill than piloting. All you have to is hold down R2 and flick the joystick up to activate the modules.

My dog can do that, but can you?

It really doesn't matter, the true talking point is about how the swarms flew over the terrain and small hills and not hit them then went around the silo and how the 3rd volley went around all of the above the silo and then around the building.

Here we have players who still say 'swarms are fine and require skill'

The majority of players in this game cannot operate vehicles properly because said majority is terrible, and flying on a 3D plane is easy because you can move in any direction you want with a very limited set of obstacles.

Meanwhile on the 2D plane your movement has to comply with a vast amount of obstacles and other differences in the terrain (ie, Hills) which have a host of glitches that can easily get you killed.

You just won't accept that vehicles are hard to use.

Dunno what you mean about this "majority of pilots."

Durkey, its a HOVER transport ship with a front gun attached to it. Lets not play Mr. Top Gun ok Bud...

Swarm Launcher remains the 4th least used primary weapon (20k sales per day on average, which also makes it less used than most sidearms), so the majority of the population are not operating Swarm Launchers.

Movement on the 3D plane in real life is not movement on the plane in a video game, which makes your comparison invalid. However as far as DUST 514 is concerned I stand by my earlier assertion.

Lmao, I cant believe he actually puts swarms and vehicles in the same skill bracket. I knew attim would grace this thread when I made it, I just wasnt sure how. Its amusing how in the same breath he says how easy vehicles are, then goes on to say they dont accomplish anything at all.

This is mostly due to his own (in) experience flying in the face of overly strong AV, getting crushed in moments. I reeeaaallllyyy wanna see footage of attim flying