DUST Search - Swarms Don't Go Around Buildings

Riptalis wrote:

STYLIE77 wrote:

I saw your Derp Ship get destroyed, then I watched the rest.

I heard complaining that "Supply Depots are annoying" because players can switch to AV and actually shoot back at you.

Wow...

Yeah, must be annoying to have a defenseless infantry player actually gain the means to fight you.

Seriously I have no pity for you.

Just another thread from a vehicle player complaining that he can't run around totally invincible and shoot fish in a barrel.

"Swarms take no skill"

"Swarms take no skill"

Shooting defenseless infantry tho... yeah that is just chock full of honorable game play.

Buy a PS4 and go away... Blink

Lol, this is hilarious. You try surviving with 2-4 AV players against you.

Supply Depot positions are a problem too. I think at least only 1 should spawn and should not be close to the main objective(s). I could argue more on this.

Swarms do not take skill, this is true. Differ all you want I'm right you're wrong. Any idiot can see this. Soz.

"Defenseless infantry" he says, lol. You make me laugh. Again, AV takes no skill and doesn't take a ton of SP to invest. The amount is nothing compared to ADS SP sink. So almost everyone can pull out their AV super easy.

AV>ADS/DS

"This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."

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DUST Fiend 15869	Posted - 2015.02.26 20:35:00 - [1] - Quote Oh rly now? My YouTube Templar BPO Set 150M ISK ADS Enthusiast
Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3038	Posted - 2015.02.26 21:00:00 - [2] - Quote Honestly, the turn radius increase may have only helped the swarms get around buildings. Oh, and invisible swarms are still a very prevalent thing. Dust is there! I was real! Dear diary, Rattati senpai noticed me today~
shaman oga Dead Man's Game 4072	Posted - 2015.02.26 21:09:00 - [3] - Quote Kinda funny reading the last part of your signature. MitraglieTTOH
DUST Fiend 15871	Posted - 2015.02.26 21:13:00 - [4] - Quote shaman oga wrote: Kinda funny reading the last part of your signature. Suffering is mandatory My YouTube Templar BPO Set 150M ISK ADS Enthusiast
jordy mack WarRavens 296	Posted - 2015.02.26 21:17:00 - [5] - Quote but i can see the trail.... waah no fair. get over it, they were obviously close before u turned the corner. Less QQ more PewPew
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 2371	Posted - 2015.02.26 21:27:00 - [6] - Quote jordy mack wrote: but i can see the trail.... waah no fair. get over it, they were obviously close before u turned the corner. When your drop suit costs that much and can die in the same time even behind cover, come back with a little bit of thought. Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 849	Posted - 2015.02.26 21:51:00 - [7] - Quote Well I saw 2 sets follow you round the building... But what else hit... Oh wait, yeah... NVM. They ever going to fix swarms, because if an anti-infantry weapon was this bugged, it would likely be removed, you know, like the vehicles that were too powerful.
LT SHANKS You In The Nutz 5286	Posted - 2015.02.26 21:53:00 - [8] - Quote Chaff would solve everyone's problems.
Aidualc LATINOS KILLERS CORP Dark Taboo 76	Posted - 2015.02.26 21:58:00 - [9] - Quote Lagged swarms ... yeap... sudenly appear 8swarms behind you and bloom.. -- LKC -- Tomate Pote --
postapo wastelander Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 942	Posted - 2015.02.26 21:58:00 - [10] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Oh rly now? Swarmer had just good angle, swarmies do not going around building. Try them, you will see. "Sebiestor Tinker/Hetzer" "Corrosive Supporter/Synergist" "We build from Rust"

Big miku Nation of Miku 422	Posted - 2015.02.26 21:59:00 - [11] - Quote I love when the swarms climb hills to kill me. Instead of hitting the hill, the Missiles stay perfectly elevated above the terrain. Truly a smart Weapon, other weapons, Are you even trying?
STYLIE77 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 437	Posted - 2015.02.26 22:21:00 - [12] - Quote I saw your Derp Ship get destroyed, then I watched the rest. I heard complaining that "Supply Depots are annoying" because players can switch to AV and actually shoot back at you. Wow... Yeah, must be annoying to have a defenseless infantry player actually gain the means to fight you. Seriously I have no pity for you. Just another thread from a vehicle player complaining that he can't run around totally invincible and shoot fish in a barrel. "Swarms take no skill" "Swarms take no skill" Shooting defenseless infantry tho... yeah that is just chock full of honorable game play. Buy a PS4 and go away... http://caughtyouflinching.ytmnd.com/
axis alpha Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 647	Posted - 2015.02.26 22:23:00 - [13] - Quote Derpships is not a play style its and excuse for one. I cut you up so bad.... You gonna wish I no cut you up so bad.
Nirwanda Vaughns 1470	Posted - 2015.02.26 22:25:00 - [14] - Quote I'd liek swarms to have some kinda minimum object clearence (except vehicles obvs lol) just so they skim over the ground by 3m so HAVs can't 'headglitch' on a hill or building as the swarms target the centre of the mass. Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17318	Posted - 2015.02.26 22:28:00 - [15] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: I'd liek swarms to have some kinda minimum object clearence (except vehicles obvs lol) just so they skim over the ground by 3m so HAVs can't 'headglitch' on a hill or building as the swarms target the centre of the mass. So you mean using defilade and enfilade is now "out"? "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
DUST Fiend 15872	Posted - 2015.02.26 22:34:00 - [16] - Quote STYLIE77 wrote: I saw your Derp Ship get destroyed, then I watched the rest. I heard complaining that "Supply Depots are annoying" because players can switch to AV and actually shoot back at you. Wow... Yeah, must be annoying to have a defenseless infantry player actually gain the means to fight you. Seriously I have no pity for you. Just another thread from a vehicle player complaining that he can't run around totally invincible and shoot fish in a barrel. "Swarms take no skill" "Swarms take no skill" Shooting defenseless infantry tho... yeah that is just chock full of honorable game play. Buy a PS4 and go away... As I spend the entire game in a fit that's only good against vehicles....(actually I think I took out a python but it got exploded pretty quick) My YouTube Templar BPO Set 150M ISK ADS Enthusiast
Stupid Blueberry The Darkhunter Society 1023	Posted - 2015.02.26 22:41:00 - [17] - Quote STYLIE77 wrote: I saw your Derp Ship get destroyed, then I watched the rest. I heard complaining that "Supply Depots are annoying" because players can switch to AV and actually shoot back at you. Wow... Yeah, must be annoying to have a defenseless infantry player actually gain the means to fight you. Seriously I have no pity for you. Just another thread from a vehicle player complaining that he can't run around totally invincible and shoot fish in a barrel. "Swarms take no skill" "Swarms take no skill" Shooting defenseless infantry tho... yeah that is just chock full of honorable game play. Buy a PS4 and go away... Don't put words in his mouth. This was a bit earlier where switching a fit at a supply depot completely repped you. Spend some time shooting down dropships with swarms then spend some time shooting infantry with an ads and come back and tell me which is harder and which is more profitable. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Haajakin Kalen. Blueberry smokin' that crack y'all
DUST Fiend 15872	Posted - 2015.02.26 22:50:00 - [18] - Quote Stupid Blueberry wrote: Don't put words in his mouth. This was a bit earlier where switching a fit at a supply depot completely repped you. Spend some time shooting down dropships with swarms then spend some time shooting infantry with an ads and come back and tell me which is harder and which is more profitable. I actually keep forgetting that supply depots don't rep you anymore. I'm not saying anything is wrong with supply depots, just pointing out that supply depots are hell zones for vehicles because AV can pop in and out cheap fits and strong AV. It was just a note on a mechanic said in frustration, but still valid. My YouTube Templar BPO Set 150M ISK ADS Enthusiast
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 850	Posted - 2015.02.26 22:52:00 - [19] - Quote postapo wastelander wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Oh rly now? Swarmer had just good angle or just lagg, swarmies do not going around building. Try them, you will see. Yeah, tell that to the set of swarms that chased my LAV through some very tight spaces. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=180950&find=unread building at G/H 4 on fracture road. swarms fired from the pipes South-East of it, I turned right into the entrance on the South-West side of the building, dodged the big pile of random cylinders, turned left out of the exit on the North-East side of the building (all at very high speed, was a nice clean run, unlike my usual attempts at LAV maneuvering.) Yet, that same single set of swarms chased me right the way through and flipped my LAV. I didn't die, they bearly scratched it... But the mechanic is terribly random. From my experience both using and being shot by swarms, the only time they don't hit, is when you release them *after* the vehicle is behind the building, otherwise they do crazy things to keep at their target.
Bremen van Equis BASTARDS OF BEDLAM 191	Posted - 2015.02.26 23:04:00 - [20] - Quote Hitting infantry while flying faster than the game can render said infantry does take skill. And luck. And guts. And ISK. Go buy your own PS4 kiddo. Buckle up, boysGÇªthis ramp leads to space. -Axe Cop

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17320	Posted - 2015.02.26 23:05:00 - [21] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Stupid Blueberry wrote: Don't put words in his mouth. This was a bit earlier where switching a fit at a supply depot completely repped you. Spend some time shooting down dropships with swarms then spend some time shooting infantry with an ads and come back and tell me which is harder and which is more profitable. I actually keep forgetting that supply depots don't rep you anymore. I'm not saying anything is wrong with supply depots, just pointing out that supply depots are hell zones for vehicles because AV can pop in and out cheap fits and strong AV. It was just a note on a mechanic said in frustration, but still valid. And people wonder why I go out of my way to blow those ******* up. "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
DUST Fiend 15873	Posted - 2015.02.26 23:19:00 - [22] - Quote True Adamance wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Stupid Blueberry wrote: Don't put words in his mouth. This was a bit earlier where switching a fit at a supply depot completely repped you. Spend some time shooting down dropships with swarms then spend some time shooting infantry with an ads and come back and tell me which is harder and which is more profitable. I actually keep forgetting that supply depots don't rep you anymore. I'm not saying anything is wrong with supply depots, just pointing out that supply depots are hell zones for vehicles because AV can pop in and out cheap fits and strong AV. It was just a note on a mechanic said in frustration, but still valid. And people wonder why I go out of my way to blow those ******* up. Same goes for me and turret installations. I will take any amount of time required to clear those cursed things. Trying to clear a supply depot with an Incubus? Not...so effective My YouTube Templar BPO Set 150M ISK ADS Enthusiast
Riptalis Horizons' Edge VP Gaming Alliance 236	Posted - 2015.02.26 23:38:00 - [23] - Quote STYLIE77 wrote: I saw your Derp Ship get destroyed, then I watched the rest. I heard complaining that "Supply Depots are annoying" because players can switch to AV and actually shoot back at you. Wow... Yeah, must be annoying to have a defenseless infantry player actually gain the means to fight you. Seriously I have no pity for you. Just another thread from a vehicle player complaining that he can't run around totally invincible and shoot fish in a barrel. "Swarms take no skill" "Swarms take no skill" Shooting defenseless infantry tho... yeah that is just chock full of honorable game play. Buy a PS4 and go away... Lol, this is hilarious. You try surviving with 2-4 AV players against you. Supply Depot positions are a problem too. I think at least only 1 should spawn and should not be close to the main objective(s). I could argue more on this. Swarms do not take skill, this is true. Differ all you want I'm right you're wrong. Any idiot can see this. Soz. "Defenseless infantry" he says, lol. You make me laugh. Again, AV takes no skill and doesn't take a ton of SP to invest. The amount is nothing compared to ADS SP sink. So almost everyone can pull out their AV super easy. AV>ADS/DS Python pilot, Logistics mk.0, Assault mk.0, Sentinel mk.0 Minmatar Loyalist
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17320	Posted - 2015.02.26 23:41:00 - [24] - Quote Riptalis wrote: STYLIE77 wrote: I saw your Derp Ship get destroyed, then I watched the rest. I heard complaining that "Supply Depots are annoying" because players can switch to AV and actually shoot back at you. Wow... Yeah, must be annoying to have a defenseless infantry player actually gain the means to fight you. Seriously I have no pity for you. Just another thread from a vehicle player complaining that he can't run around totally invincible and shoot fish in a barrel. "Swarms take no skill" "Swarms take no skill" Shooting defenseless infantry tho... yeah that is just chock full of honorable game play. Buy a PS4 and go away... Lol, this is hilarious. You try surviving with 2-4 AV players against you. Supply Depot positions are a problem too. I think at least only 1 should spawn and should not be close to the main objective(s). I could argue more on this. Swarms do not take skill, this is true. Differ all you want I'm right you're wrong. Any idiot can see this. Soz. "Defenseless infantry" he says, lol. You make me laugh. Again, AV takes no skill and doesn't take a ton of SP to invest. The amount is nothing compared to ADS SP sink. So almost everyone can pull out their AV super easy. AV>ADS/DS I get where you are coming from but think about this logically. No vehicle should be able to take or ideally evade AV from four sources and still survive. This is simple common sense. "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
DUST Fiend 15873	Posted - 2015.02.26 23:51:00 - [25] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I get where you are coming from but think about this logically. No vehicle should be able to take or ideally evade AV from four sources and still survive. This is simple common sense. The big things is though, especially in a dropship, you're a very open target, so there's a good chance of you usually being engaged by at least two AV players. So, I don't think you should be able to engage those two players, but you should certainly be able to evade. The biggest issue with swarms is the fact that they typically can't be evaded. My YouTube Templar BPO Set 150M ISK ADS Enthusiast
Sir Dukey G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1806	Posted - 2015.02.27 00:01:00 - [26] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Oh rly now? 2:10, that is what happens to my python literally every match and I never survive. Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris
hold that Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 662	Posted - 2015.02.27 00:08:00 - [27] - Quote swarms are just annoying. i am both ads and infantry with max swarms. i get killed by forge guns, turrents and tanks 90% of the time in my ADS, and when i do get killed by swarms it's because there are multiple swarm users firing at me or mixed in with the former. i suggest running complex hardeners and shields, you might be looking at 350k ADS but you will live a lot longer. the one thing i do not like about swarms is that they are easy mode war points, mainly because you are guaranteed to get two to three volleys off. i'd suggest toning down the +75 to +50 for initial vehicle damage. sp ***** fit, SL, BP, scanner, link, hive
Nirwanda Vaughns 1472	Posted - 2015.02.27 00:59:00 - [28] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: I'd liek swarms to have some kinda minimum object clearence (except vehicles obvs lol) just so they skim over the ground by 3m so HAVs can't 'headglitch' on a hill or building as the swarms target the centre of the mass. So you mean using defilade and enfilade is now "out"? well thems some fancy words for a man of my literary abilities so all i'll say is that 20,000 years into the future you'd expect them to be able to make a guided missile that doesn't fly into the ground instead of the target when confronted with a 6" ridge just because the centre of the vehicle happens to be below it. in the past the swarms would just fly above the vehicle and then come straight down on top. witht he new turning angle they're a little too dumb when it comes to hitting HAVs sat just below the peak of a hill Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner
Proto Annihilator 16 Vandals 402	Posted - 2015.02.27 01:02:00 - [29] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: jordy mack wrote: but i can see the trail.... waah no fair. get over it, they were obviously close before u turned the corner. When your drop suit costs that much and can die in the same time even behind cover, come back with a little bit of thought. I see hundreds of rounds pass thru the silos in gallente research facility. Not sure if they can kill you but it's frightening.
Big miku Nation of Miku 422	Posted - 2015.02.27 01:04:00 - [30] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: well thems some fancy words for a man of my literary abilities so all i'll say is that 20,000 years into the future you'd expect them to be able to make a guided missile that doesn't fly into the ground instead of the target when confronted with a 6" ridge just because the centre of the vehicle happens to be below it. You'd also expect Laser Ordnance Interception to be highly advance, seeing as we can right now destroy missiles and mortars in flight, but hey. http://www.military.com/video/directed-energy-weapons/laser-weapons/high-energy-laser-destroys-mortars-in-flight/3845364812001/



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