I haven't played BF3 because I didn't want to deal with all that Origin BS. I'm talking about every other game in the series. Played any of those? Doesn't sound like it.

I don't mind that you prefer arena style shooters. I do mind that you can't even respond to the content of someones argument and resort to insults to puff yourself up.

CCP never said in terms of gameplay DUST was going to be tactical. Yeah the Meta Game and conquest portions are going to require careful planning and thought. The pace of game is fine. People need to learn to aim.

You haven't responded at all to the criticism that soldiers dancing like ballerinas doesn't fit in with the Eve universe.

actually it does have bearing in this conversation. You are saying "people move too fast I can't get kills. CCP slow the game down so i can get kills too."

This is exactly why most games are utter crap now. Devs dumb the game down for people. CCP shouldn't have to dumb dust down, because some people can't hit a moving target and feel the only way to get a kill is being in a fixed position ADSing.

If you want a realistic shooter go play americas army. The gunplay in DUST is what will give it character in a sea of other shooters.

Well the Dust merc are geneticly enhanced super soiders which seems to be getting mixed up with superman, above all the dust mercs are still soiders or warriors or what ever you want to call it this in effect meens running sidways while hip firing will seem inefficient to them and even a little embarrisng, when i get into a straafe fight and win i dont see it as a good kill i see it as a mix of luck and abusing a problem in the game not a skill or a good tactic i used as a reason to why a man i never met is lying on the ground dead for no other reason than it was him or me, sure the dust merc are going to be more reckless they move up when other people are pined down they do thing that involve risk such as charging enemy positions to take a objective and they use guns that would likly break a normal persons shoulder when firing.

CCP did describe the weapons as being so powerful that an unarmored person would be killed simply from pulling the trigger.

sry proto but youre wrong here ive been playing lots of FPS's and the way this is going in dust with all the jumping and strafing is not the way to go. go compare for yourself all the realistic FPS's with all the jumpy/strafy FPS's. on average the realistic ones have waaay more copy's sold then the other ones. + this kind of gameplay is NOT what the mainstream FPS players like its is just what u like and ive seen u on the battlefield several times and every time i meet u u are using the strafe jump thing every time so u defending this way of gameplay is for me not helping the game its just helping your game.

Please work on reducing the use of straffing, circling and jumping as a option to evade bullets.

Make the gunfights more realistic in regards of player movements, and therefore enforce a less rushed gameplay.

Strafing should be slower, circling should affect accuracy in a bad way, and jumping should forbid shooting and each jump be lesser i height/speed due like to stamina being used.

Please work on reducing the use of straffing, circling and jumping as a option to evade bullets.

Make the gunfights more realistic in regards of player movements, and therefore enforce a less rushed gameplay.

Strafing should be slower, circling should affect accuracy in a bad way, and jumping should forbid shooting and each jump be lesser i height/speed due like to stamina being used.

THis isnt BF3 or COD. Here you get to have multiple skills at work. Like aiming and dodging.
Sure it's different from "i saw you first you die" type of games.

I'm on a bad mood.

you're playing a scifi shooter with armor and shield tanking of course people are going to run at you. Like it's been said in other places ADS has it's uses, but it gets down to each individual players play style. For example if somebody is a sizable ways away from me of course i'm going to ADS, but in CQC i'm going to hip fire and strafe, because thats what you do in CQC to survive. You don't sit in one spot and hope the enemy misses you.

I think it is hard to determine balancing the 4 suits until the other suits come out. Some like being a Heavy slow moving tank, others like to be a Scout moving quickly but being more vulnerable.

We also do not have all the weapons yet or equipment. We may find that with new equipment that you can find a fit that you can use against the Scout.

You haven't responded at all to the criticism that soldiers dancing like ballerinas doesn't fit in with the Eve universe.

Or to the fact that important game mechanics like logistics suits have no role in that style of shooter. Or the fact that orbital bombardments, which if you're paying attention to is the single thing that makes Dust most distinct from other shooters, would be entirely pointless with the current speed of the game. All you've done is go "lol idiot!".

Edit: I'll also clarify what I'm "trying to prove" with my reference to the battlefield series. Just so you're crystal clear on what I'm talking about - 1942, 2142, Vietnam, BF2, BC2. In any of those games the team that is mostly sitting in vehicles loses, period. Vehicles had their role, but they weren't the "I win" button that you seem to think they were. It wasn't too hard to outsmart someone who insisted on using a vehicle without infantry support. Some players who try that might have nice looking k/d ratios, but in battlefield that number is next to meaningless. That game is about controlling territory. Sound familiar? Dust is going for the same core mechanic, but on a persistent mmo scale.

"So you want what you're used to"

"You can't handle the strafing, the fast pace, etc. "

Lol, that can go both sides.

People can tbe blamed for talking about the game trailer, as CCP itself called it a "Future Vision" as in whats they aim for the game.



And again a internet troll assuming too much about people.

Faster strafe speed will harm the game in the long run. The short span people will leave, and the game will die.

The game must be slower, reward team play and reinforce the need for players to be part of corporation that give advantages on the battlefield.

I dont want Dust to be a silly game that half the teenagers will leave once the best next thing is launched. I want it to be a deep game that will hold players prisioners of their evolution and assets accumulated, that will hold their ties to the comunity invaluable to the point of it being a game that "lasts forever".

Quick matches wont cut the deal. It gets boring fast.

Lol, that can go both sides.

People can tbe blamed for talking about the game trailer, as CCP itself called it a "Future Vision" as in whats they aim for the game.

And again a internet troll assuming too much about people.

Faster strafe speed will harm the game in the long run. The short span people will leave, and the game will die.

The game must be slower, reward team play and reinforce the need for players to be part of corporation that give advantages on the battlefield.

I dont want Dust to be a silly game that half the teenagers will leave once the best next thing is launched. I want it to be a deep game that will hold players prisioners of their evolution and assets accumulated, that will hold their ties to the comunity invaluable to the point of it being a game that "lasts forever".

Quick matches wont cut the deal. It gets boring fast.

It's obvious what I said is the case, because I have yet to have a good reason as to why the strafe speed is bad other than "I don't like it!" which is basically "I can't handle it, change it." worded differently. Why adapt when you can cry and get it changed, I guess.

LOL

You assume so much about others.

I can handle it just fine, but i really dont see it has a place in a EVE shooter as ambituous as Dust is.

And I could care less you you find yourself homeless in your gaming.

Where will strafers go after Dust hmm i wonder COD or the likes of unreal turnimen, hell mabye even starhawk if DUST can take over as the new battlefield type of tactical shooter yes there are lots of PS3 players who are disapointed with BF3 on concole including me up till BC2 it had a cult like following and even the MAG comunity are looking foward to another proper tactical shooter and iam under the impression that DUST 514 has the potential to fill this gap a game with conciquences which makes players feel like they are rewarded for teamwork. If Dust lives up to its potential it will have a veery good player base because on PS3 even some of the old games have a cult like following the ones that provided depth and if DUST has anythng it depth.