yup,

When we get the APEX efficiency numbers, you'll be jello.

Every caldari suit but scout needs a buff. Right now 85% of cal ass dual tank it..

I believe this as well. It isn't because the Caldari Scout has some mystical "can't hit me thing!" or that Scouts as a whole are overpowered (though that may be, I am not sure). The Caldari Scout actually has REALLY good base Shield Stats. 50 HP recharge, 4 Depleted, 3 Delay is quite impressive compared to the the Assault's 30 HP recharge, 6 Depleted, and 5 delay. Again, it might be that the Scout also has some innate advantage in the Speed and in the E-War department that makes it better over the Assault but I feel a lot of it is due to the flat out better recharge numbers.

There are a couple of problems with Shields and Armor:
1. The mentality that the Caldari are supposed to fight far away where Recharge is more important simply doesn't work in this game. I would believe that Shields were balanced around this fact originally. However, that is the weapon not the suit. An Armor suit with a long range weapon does the 'long range fighter' shtick just as well as Shields and doesn't suffer for it.
2. The PG/CPU costs are insane. For the Prototype levels, a Repairer is 45/11. A Recharger is 71/0, an Energizer is 82/0, though the Regulator is only 34/3. Plates are worse. 54/11 Extender versus 37/12 Plate and 23/8 FS.
3. Shields require more skills. With all the hype over having Extenders, Energizers, and Rechargers to be "just as good as armor", the fact that it requires 932,760 more SP is generally left out. This extra SP doesn't make Shields better over armor but is generally seen as a "narrows the gap."

Even breaking it down:
Q: "Why do Shields take more resources to use?"
- A: "Because you recharge faster."
Q: "Why do Shields have less HP?"
- A: "Because you recharge faster."
Q: "Why do Shields require more slots?"
- A: "Because you recharge faster."

Shields pay quite a bit to recharge faster, probably more than they should. As stated above, I think most of the problems come from the fact that Caldari Suits save for the Scout have subpar base Shield stats.

Why are you running sheilds then? Is there a reason people do this? It seems they just want something to whine about.

Complex ferroscale plate
23 cpu 8 Pg
75hp

Complex shield extender
54 cpu 11 pg
66hp
Shield depleted recharge delay 7%

It seems really unbalanced to me

So why are the stats as above?

Discuss

Should the accurate comparison not be extenders and reactive plates?

We don't want accurate, this is propaganda. Aimed directly at the weak and stupid.

you have nothing, but name calling you are truly a dirty little fuqtarded gamer.

you got jakshit figured out slick. you admitted to only adv gear leveling on cal shielded kit, and have no right to question or comment on proto CK0 configs.

if i wanted a punctuation lessons i'd ask Hemmingway.

go take a bath and read a book fuqtard!

Even breaking it down:
Q: "Why do Shields take more resources to use?"
- A: "Because you recharge faster."
Q: "Why do Shields have less HP?"
- A: "Because you recharge faster."
Q: "Why do Shields require more slots?"
- A: "Because you recharge faster."

Shields pay quite a bit to recharge faster, probably more than they should. As stated above, I think most of the problems come from the fact that Caldari Suits save for the Scout have subpar base Shield stats.

I have all the caldari tech to advanced. For me it's more about regen. My sentinel gets back 98 a sec after 2.46 seconds. Damn thing will recharge during a firefight most times. Brick tanking is a stale way to fit your suits.

I have all the caldari tech to advanced. For me it's more about regen. My sentinel gets back 98 a sec after 2.46 seconds. Damn thing will recharge during a firefight most times. Brick tanking is a stale way to fit your suits.

Which is great but doesn't beat an armor tanked sentinel with a logi.

This man speaks the truth . My cal assault Cko has a shield recharge rate of about 88 give or take 3hps with aprox 450 shields and a recharge dely of 1.69 depleated dely of 1.92 . This is how you are supposed to use caldari teck it's awesome for ambush tactics and hit and run assaults. As a shield tanker your biggest fear is your shields failing so as long as you use cover wisely and p attention to your surroundings your pretty much solid.

I believe this as well. It isn't because the Caldari Scout has some mystical "can't hit me thing!" or that Scouts as a whole are overpowered (though that may be, I am not sure). The Caldari Scout actually has REALLY good base Shield Stats. 50 HP recharge, 4 Depleted, 3 Delay is quite impressive compared to the the Assault's 30 HP recharge, 6 Depleted, and 5 delay. Again, it might be that the Scout also has some innate advantage in the Speed and in the E-War department that makes it better over the Assault but I feel a lot of it is due to the flat out better recharge numbers.

There are a couple of problems with Shields and Armor:
1. The mentality that the Caldari are supposed to fight far away where Recharge is more important simply doesn't work in this game. I would believe that Shields were balanced around this fact originally. However, that is the weapon not the suit. An Armor suit with a long range weapon does the 'long range fighter' shtick just as well as Shields and doesn't suffer for it.
2. The PG/CPU costs are insane. For the Prototype levels, a Repairer is 45/11. A Recharger is 71/0, an Energizer is 82/0, though the Regulator is only 34/3. Plates are worse. 54/11 Extender versus 37/12 Plate and 23/8 FS.
3. Shields require more skills. With all the hype over having Extenders, Energizers, and Rechargers to be "just as good as armor", the fact that it requires 932,760 more SP is generally left out. This extra SP doesn't make Shields better over armor but is generally seen as a "narrows the gap."

Even breaking it down:
Q: "Why do Shields take more resources to use?"
- A: "Because you recharge faster."
Q: "Why do Shields have less HP?"
- A: "Because you recharge faster."
Q: "Why do Shields require more slots?"
- A: "Because you recharge faster."

Shields pay quite a bit to recharge faster, probably more than they should. As stated above, I think most of the problems come from the fact that Caldari Suits save for the Scout have subpar base Shield stats.

Sheilds with high regen allow you to take more damage more often. It's simple. They are better if you are smarter. people who don't understand that brick tank sheilds and end up crying on the forums about how UP shields are.

Who cares? Just armor tank. Everyone wants to argue about what is over or under powered. It's foolish. If you need plates stack them. If you do well with shields use them. Hybrid tank.

Ta king the victim stance in every situation is pathetic. Do you ever consider changing your gameplay? Learning something new? Adapting? If you can't function in your current load outs, change them.

Armor in low slots does not allow for the fitting of regulators, slows the suit down and if you're running adv gear the problem is only magnified. If fitted properly you will find yourself being zapped by either the scram ( no modded cntrl ) or melted by the laser. I speak of ranged gun fights, nevermind the futile effort to push an objective.

Tanking is not the "smartman's" game, and using a pure shielded suit that is slow and low on stamina is not as well.

HAHA...evelore says the Caldari are a meritocratic industrialized capitalistic society with a small "proffesional" military.
If this is true then DUST514 is ridiculous, because the Caldari can be judged as idiots based on thier kit.

maybe some PT is in order.

Can I ask why you don't just use an armor based suit? It would suit what you are trying to achieve way better.

Instead of ranting about how poorly shields do in every situation just get the kit that supports your ways.

Why frustrate yourself

I mean in their most effective setups...... i could have made that more clear