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GLOBAL RAGE
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Posted - 2015.02.21 17:40:00 -
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Rinzler XVII wrote:Complex ferroscale plate
23 cpu 8 Pg
75hp
Complex shield extender
54 cpu 11 pg
66hp
Shield depleted recharge delay 7%
It seems really unbalanced to me
So why are the stats as above?
Discuss
A couple of proto triage nano-hives and two proto leaches, I mean logi's repping a metal monster versus a Caldari shield based suit in a 30 meter ranged gun fight?
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GLOBAL RAGE
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Posted - 2015.02.21 23:59:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:A large problem comes from players not knowing how to shield tank.
Shield tanking fits and tactics actually require some degree of intelligence and forethought which the common DUST player does not have an ounce of.
With Tactics, most people think shield suits should act the same as armor suits and be able to brawl just as well in CQC as a Gallente Assault.
The last problem for once has nothing to do with the player but shields do need to have some kind of Shield threshold for regen. It's incredibly unfair for a tiny ping of damage stop you from regenerating completely. (I also would like to give the Caldari more Shields at the expense of speed though but that's just me wanting more EVE traits into the game)
Armor modules are in the same slots as your CPU and PG modules. We don't have a module in the opposite slot to make our armor better. You guys however have Regulators and CPU/PG enhancements as well as the majority of the modules at your disposal in the lows. CCP even gave suits native armor regen so shield users could swap out that armor repair for something like a regulator or any other module besides wanting to dual tank. That did not work because people are still stacking armor on Caldari suits even though Cat, Arkena, Several others and I have listed Shield suits that are damn impressive even compared to an Amarr and Gallente Assault of equal meta. Sadly, those fittings require you to use Regulators and a CPU module for some of the suits. Which we all know won't happen because of the HP>All mentality that the majority of DUST players have.
tl;dr
>Most DUST players lack the intelligence to have a proper shield fit.
>Most players don't realise that all fits and defenses can't have the same playstyle
>You can't expect to use just anything and have it fit your playstyle
>Shield suits do need a Threshold of damage to affect shield regeneration.
>Shield suits need a Logistics tool, but not in the same function like the armor repair tool.
P.S. I'll swap you guys damage mods in place of Kinkats.
NO,
Adding shields and decreasing mobility will make things worse.
Is there pronounced gravity in space? No, there is not. So please stop with the fuqtarded eve lore horse ****!
The Navy transports the Marines, and that is the only comparison a thoughtful and rational person can make.
Everything MIN must be slowed down and everything Caldari made faster. |
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Posted - 2015.02.22 01:29:00 -
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Soul Cairn wrote:The Caldari don't need to be any faster. Speed is not really a Caldari philosophy. Minmatar should be keeping their speed as that is what the Minmatar are known for.
Yes we do.
Fuq eve lore it's a stupid application of rules for terrestrial conflict.
Min speed plus bad hit detection caused by high latency makes DUST play like ****. |
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Posted - 2015.02.22 01:42:00 -
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Darken-Soul wrote:GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Soul Cairn wrote:The Caldari don't need to be any faster. Speed is not really a Caldari philosophy. Minmatar should be keeping their speed as that is what the Minmatar are known for. Yes we do. Fuq eve lore it's a stupid application of rules for terrestrial conflict. Min speed plus bad hit detection caused by high latency makes DUST play like ****. And you want to add more speed. You jelly bastard
yup,
When we get the APEX efficiency numbers, you'll be jello.
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Posted - 2015.02.22 02:05:00 -
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Slow everything, but the Caldari, until all scouts are faster than the MINASS. This will help shielded suits get into cover, and effectively buff the calass without limiting it's vulnerability.
The game is broken because of latency and slowing it down will help. |
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Posted - 2015.02.22 04:05:00 -
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Darken-Soul wrote:castba wrote:Rinzler XVII wrote:Complex ferroscale plate
23 cpu 8 Pg
75hp
Complex shield extender
54 cpu 11 pg
66hp
Shield depleted recharge delay 7%
It seems really unbalanced to me
So why are the stats as above?
Discuss Should the accurate comparison not be extenders and reactive plates? We don't want accurate, this is propaganda. Aimed directly at the weak and stupid.
you have nothing, but name calling you are truly a dirty little fuqtarded gamer.
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Posted - 2015.02.22 04:34:00 -
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you got jakshit figured out slick. you admitted to only adv gear leveling on cal shielded kit, and have no right to question or comment on proto CK0 configs.
if i wanted a punctuation lessons i'd ask Hemmingway.
go take a bath and read a book fuqtard! |
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Posted - 2015.02.22 21:15:00 -
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Proto Annihilator wrote:Who cares? Just armor tank. Everyone wants to argue about what is over or under powered. It's foolish. If you need plates stack them. If you do well with shields use them. Hybrid tank.
Ta king the victim stance in every situation is pathetic. Do you ever consider changing your gameplay? Learning something new? Adapting? If you can't function in your current load outs, change them.
Armor in low slots does not allow for the fitting of regulators, slows the suit down and if you're running adv gear the problem is only magnified. If fitted properly you will find yourself being zapped by either the scram ( no modded cntrl ) or melted by the laser. I speak of ranged gun fights, nevermind the futile effort to push an objective.
Tanking is not the "smartman's" game, and using a pure shielded suit that is slow and low on stamina is not as well.
HAHA...evelore says the Caldari are a meritocratic industrialized capitalistic society with a small "proffesional" military.
If this is true then DUST514 is ridiculous, because the Caldari can be judged as idiots based on thier kit.
maybe some PT is in order. |
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Posted - 2015.02.23 02:56:00 -
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Proto Annihilator wrote:GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Proto Annihilator wrote:Who cares? Just armor tank. Everyone wants to argue about what is over or under powered. It's foolish. If you need plates stack them. If you do well with shields use them. Hybrid tank.
Ta king the victim stance in every situation is pathetic. Do you ever consider changing your gameplay? Learning something new? Adapting? If you can't function in your current load outs, change them. Armor in low slots does not allow for the fitting of regulators, slows the suit down and if you're running adv gear the problem is only magnified. If fitted properly you will find yourself being zapped by either the scram ( no modded cntrl ) or melted by the laser. I speak of ranged gun fights, nevermind the futile effort to push an objective. Tanking is not the "smartman's" game, and using a pure shielded suit that is slow and low on stamina is not as well. HAHA...evelore says the Caldari are a meritocratic industrialized capitalistic society with a small "proffesional" military. If this is true then DUST514 is ridiculous, because the Caldari can be judged as idiots based on thier kit. maybe some PT is in order. Can I ask why you don't just use an armor based suit? It would suit what you are trying to achieve way better. Instead of ranting about how poorly shields do in every situation just get the kit that supports your ways. Why frustrate yourself
I omni 5 proto fittings both shield and armor.
My point is valid and the reason that CAL FW is one sided.
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