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Juno Tristan wrote:

Aeon Amadi wrote:

Juno Tristan wrote:

Since this has now descended into an anti vehicle thread, why do you get 275+ wp for destroying my incubus when I only get 50?

Should we be getting more wp for a heavy kill? What about damage points if they're getting repped?

Thicker shields/armor, hardeners, high damage weaponry, speed, the list goes on and on dude.

You've got upwards of 5000 EHP, are completely immune to 70% of the weapons in the game, loaded to bear with a weapon that can kill me in two shots... and if I somehow manage to take down your dropship that gives you all of that, you can always just bail out and go after me on foot where I will almost certainly be at a disadvantage because I'm running AV.

That is why I get 275+ WP for destroying your Dropship.

Extra war points for vehicle damage was added due to tanks being OP, if we're now at a 1 player = 1 player situation why should the AV player be getting more WP for the same action?

With the instant exploding proposal will the additional WP will be removed then? Since people can't bail out

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Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 8537	Posted - 2015.02.08 20:31:00 - [1] - Quote As subject line says. Dropships should instantly explode when reaching 0/0 HP. Tanks do it, LAVs do it, why are Dropships exempt..? It's really annoying to have a dropship pilot live through the AV onslaught and then not die because they get a 5-10 second "get out of jail free" period. Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department? *Founder of AIV*
Terry Webber Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 575	Posted - 2015.02.08 22:01:00 - [2] - Quote I'm guessing it's because it's cool to see a dropship go down despite the pilot being able to survive. Maybe CCP can make an explosion on the dropship occur 20% of the time that can kill the pilot before the destroyed dropship hits the ground. Or maybe when the dropship is hit from the front and is destroyed, the pilot will also be killed.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 21961	Posted - 2015.02.08 22:03:00 - [3] - Quote I don't know why, but I found the title hilarious. I agree. It's quite annoying to whack a dropship and then get no kills because everyone bailed. :Bittervetting intensifies:
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 338	Posted - 2015.02.08 22:03:00 - [4] - Quote Depending on how fast Im flying I die roughly half of the time jumpong out anyway Rise and shine CCP. It's time to implement ping based match making.
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 1314	Posted - 2015.02.09 00:17:00 - [5] - Quote Hull. We need vehicles to have hull like clones have a third 'health' for their bleed-out timers. Deal 200 damage (I think it's 200) past 0 armour? The vehicle explodes. Otherwise, the vehicle is on fire and takes 3-5 seconds to explode, giving people time to baiil if you don't push to fully destroy the vehicle, and at the same time high alpha weapons (Railguns, Forge Guns, Missiles) will likely blitz straight through the buffer. Definitely agree that dropships shouldn't be exempt from exploding just 'because.' Introducing the above for all vehicles would give all vehicle users/passengers something else to think about, potentially. Just a thought. Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 719	Posted - 2015.02.09 00:33:00 - [6] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I don't know why, but I found the title hilarious. I thought he wanted that bug back that made the vehicles blow up when deploying in certain areas... I mean I did laugh the first few times since the voice always said "Deployment successful" like she was taking the ****. But after a while it did get annoying. So on a serious note, I always wanted this gone, but only because Jihad Dropships are so difficult to use, you never know quite when it's going to blow. I only ever managed to blow up a tank doing this once, the bounce was perfect, lol.
Juno Tristan Obscure Reference 346	Posted - 2015.02.09 02:23:00 - [7] - Quote I'm torn over this, on the one hand I think the pilot should go down with the ship but on the other it's just another thing to deter people from spawning on MCRUs I would prefer the current system with an exit timer for pilots ADS Ramming Revenge! Should Have Stayed Inside (the Tank)
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 829	Posted - 2015.02.09 03:22:00 - [8] - Quote @ Aeon "becuase I want 50 WP" is not a valid argument. I would love if the eject timer we have for dropships applied to tanks and LAVs as well. Give every crew a chance to bail out. Otherwise, what your saying makes as much sense to me as the revive mechanic being applied to suits and not vehicles. Just the nature of the game. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 341	Posted - 2015.02.09 03:36:00 - [9] - Quote I can understand giving you the kill if the dropship kills me or anyone else jumping out when it is going down instead of it reading as a suicide. Rise and shine CCP. It's time to implement ping based match making.
Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 8552	Posted - 2015.02.09 05:28:00 - [10] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: @ Aeon "becuase I want 50 WP" is not a valid argument. I would love if the eject timer we have for dropships applied to tanks and LAVs as well. Give every crew a chance to bail out. Otherwise, what your saying makes as much sense to me as the revive mechanic being applied to suits and not vehicles. Just the nature of the game. Then I'd like to be able to eject out of my dropsuit like a rabid super-crab and come after you, naked (with shields and armored skin), with my prototype body and gun. It's effectively the same thing, right? Just another layer of armor/shields to hold you over until you can just bail out and go after the person who destroyed it? And why -NOT- because I want 50 WP for busting my kitten trying to take out your super vehicle, eh? What's wrong with actually getting a kill when in any other vehicle I would have? Or does that hurt your poor pilot feelings? Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department? *Founder of AIV*

Piercing Serenity PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 848	Posted - 2015.02.09 05:38:00 - [11] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Tesfa Alem wrote: @ Aeon "becuase I want 50 WP" is not a valid argument. I would love if the eject timer we have for dropships applied to tanks and LAVs as well. Give every crew a chance to bail out. Otherwise, what your saying makes as much sense to me as the revive mechanic being applied to suits and not vehicles. Just the nature of the game. Then I'd like to be able to eject out of my dropsuit like a rabid super-crab and come after you, naked (with shields and armored skin), with my prototype body and gun. It's effectively the same thing, right? Just another layer of armor/shields to hold you over until you can just bail out and go after the person who destroyed it? And why -NOT- because I want 50 WP for busting my kitten trying to take out your super vehicle, eh? What's wrong with actually getting a kill when in any other vehicle I would have? Or does that hurt your poor pilot feelings? Lol, easy Aeon. This isn't an anti vehicle thread Closed Beta Vet (E3 Build), Former PFBHz Best Corps Battled (Personally): Imperfects, TeamPlayers, Hellstorm
Vektus Alvoraan WarRavens Capital Punishment. 52	Posted - 2015.02.09 05:38:00 - [12] - Quote Can't get enough of those "Vektus Alvoraan (died) D!ldo Collector". DUST 514 Closed Beta Vet - Humble logibro, at your service.
Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 8553	Posted - 2015.02.09 05:41:00 - [13] - Quote Piercing Serenity wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Tesfa Alem wrote: @ Aeon "becuase I want 50 WP" is not a valid argument. I would love if the eject timer we have for dropships applied to tanks and LAVs as well. Give every crew a chance to bail out. Otherwise, what your saying makes as much sense to me as the revive mechanic being applied to suits and not vehicles. Just the nature of the game. Then I'd like to be able to eject out of my dropsuit like a rabid super-crab and come after you, naked (with shields and armored skin), with my prototype body and gun. It's effectively the same thing, right? Just another layer of armor/shields to hold you over until you can just bail out and go after the person who destroyed it? And why -NOT- because I want 50 WP for busting my kitten trying to take out your super vehicle, eh? What's wrong with actually getting a kill when in any other vehicle I would have? Or does that hurt your poor pilot feelings? Lol, easy Aeon. This isn't an anti vehicle thread Meh. Just hate it when these dudes come in acting all entitled to surviving the BS that entails -actually downing a vehicle- in this game. As far as hard kitten to kill in this game, Vehicles are among the worst because #reasons but somehow have the highest damage potential. I've yet to hear of a single good reason why a pilot -shouldn't- die, let alone a single good reason why they shouldn't be skin-grafted inside the vehicle permanently, unable to get out and HMG stomp anything. Or, god forbid, pull the Duna route of things and just get out, cloak up, and haul off to call in another. Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department? *Founder of AIV*
killertojo42 KnightKiller's inc. 139	Posted - 2015.02.09 06:07:00 - [14] - Quote Duna the player or AI program, if you see Duna in a gunlogi watch it closely you'll see what I mean, it usually doesn't even act like a player Because both of us dying as I'm in my nomad BPO is to my benefit
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 21987	Posted - 2015.02.09 06:58:00 - [15] - Quote Piercing Serenity wrote: Lol, easy Aeon. This isn't an anti vehicle thread Every thread can be an anti-vehicle thread if you try hard enough! :Bittervetting intensifies:
tritan abbattere DBAG CORE 26	Posted - 2015.02.09 07:11:00 - [16] - Quote why not make it so the pilot can't get out but all the passengers have time to get out. I am the all mighty Tritan. Fear me for I am a MassHole
Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 8555	Posted - 2015.02.09 07:16:00 - [17] - Quote tritan abbattere wrote: why not make it so the pilot can't get out but all the passengers have time to get out. Why not just have it explode like other vehicles..? Why should they have time to bail out when they hit 0 HP instead, I dunno, when the thing is -on fire-? Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department? *Founder of AIV*
tritan abbattere DBAG CORE 26	Posted - 2015.02.09 07:20:00 - [18] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: tritan abbattere wrote: why not make it so the pilot can't get out but all the passengers have time to get out. Why not just have it explode like other vehicles..? Why should they have time to bail out when they hit 0 HP instead, I dunno, when the thing is -on fire-? Becuase they have a quick exit to the side and it would make people not want to get transport by drop ships. And drop ships have more angles they can get hit buy sense theirs no objects in the air for cover. I am the all mighty Tritan. Fear me for I am a MassHole
Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 8557	Posted - 2015.02.09 07:21:00 - [19] - Quote tritan abbattere wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: tritan abbattere wrote: why not make it so the pilot can't get out but all the passengers have time to get out. Why not just have it explode like other vehicles..? Why should they have time to bail out when they hit 0 HP instead, I dunno, when the thing is -on fire-? Becuase they have a quick exit to the side and it would make people not want to get transport by drop ships. And drop ships have more angles they can get hit buy sense theirs no objects in the air for cover. LAVs don't even have doors x3 Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department? *Founder of AIV*
tritan abbattere DBAG CORE 26	Posted - 2015.02.09 07:37:00 - [20] - Quote we where talking about drop ships right?? I am the all mighty Tritan. Fear me for I am a MassHole

Juno Tristan Obscure Reference 352	Posted - 2015.02.09 08:05:00 - [21] - Quote Since this has now descended into an anti vehicle thread, why do you get 275+ wp for destroying my incubus when I only get 50? Should we be getting more wp for a heavy kill? What about damage points if they're getting repped? ADS Ramming Revenge! Should Have Stayed Inside (the Tank)
Mary Sedillo Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 347	Posted - 2015.02.09 08:32:00 - [22] - Quote It doesn't bother me that they get to tumble from the sky. I go down with the ship but it allows the limited window of opportunity for survival for you or your passengers. Dropships get shot down all the time -- insta-explode would make it that much more disadvantageous to even use them for transportation.
Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 8562	Posted - 2015.02.09 10:04:00 - [23] - Quote Juno Tristan wrote: Since this has now descended into an anti vehicle thread, why do you get 275+ wp for destroying my incubus when I only get 50? Should we be getting more wp for a heavy kill? What about damage points if they're getting repped? Thicker shields/armor, hardeners, high damage weaponry, speed, the list goes on and on dude. You've got upwards of 5000 EHP, are completely immune to 70% of the weapons in the game, loaded to bear with a weapon that can kill me in two shots... and if I somehow manage to take down your dropship that gives you all of that, you can always just bail out and go after me on foot where I will almost certainly be at a disadvantage because I'm running AV. That is why I get 275+ WP for destroying your Dropship. Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department? *Founder of AIV*
Juno Tristan Obscure Reference 352	Posted - 2015.02.09 10:17:00 - [24] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Juno Tristan wrote: Since this has now descended into an anti vehicle thread, why do you get 275+ wp for destroying my incubus when I only get 50? Should we be getting more wp for a heavy kill? What about damage points if they're getting repped? Thicker shields/armor, hardeners, high damage weaponry, speed, the list goes on and on dude. You've got upwards of 5000 EHP, are completely immune to 70% of the weapons in the game, loaded to bear with a weapon that can kill me in two shots... and if I somehow manage to take down your dropship that gives you all of that, you can always just bail out and go after me on foot where I will almost certainly be at a disadvantage because I'm running AV. That is why I get 275+ WP for destroying your Dropship. Extra war points for vehicle damage was added due to tanks being OP, if we're now at a 1 player = 1 player situation why should the AV player be getting more WP for the same action? With the instant exploding proposal will the additional WP will be removed then? Since people can't bail out ADS Ramming Revenge! Should Have Stayed Inside (the Tank)
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 831	Posted - 2015.02.09 10:41:00 - [25] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: [ Or does that hurt your poor pilot feelings? So trolling is what this is about. If thats your point of veiw then, whatever man. Can't be botherd to mess with trolls. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 8564	Posted - 2015.02.09 10:51:00 - [26] - Quote Tesfa Alem wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: [ Or does that hurt your poor pilot feelings? So trolling is what this is about. If thats your point of veiw then, whatever man. Can't be botherd to mess with trolls. Pot calling the kettle black, there Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department? *Founder of AIV*
Aeon Amadi Chimera Core 8564	Posted - 2015.02.09 10:52:00 - [27] - Quote Juno Tristan wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Juno Tristan wrote: Since this has now descended into an anti vehicle thread, why do you get 275+ wp for destroying my incubus when I only get 50? Should we be getting more wp for a heavy kill? What about damage points if they're getting repped? Thicker shields/armor, hardeners, high damage weaponry, speed, the list goes on and on dude. You've got upwards of 5000 EHP, are completely immune to 70% of the weapons in the game, loaded to bear with a weapon that can kill me in two shots... and if I somehow manage to take down your dropship that gives you all of that, you can always just bail out and go after me on foot where I will almost certainly be at a disadvantage because I'm running AV. That is why I get 275+ WP for destroying your Dropship. Extra war points for vehicle damage was added due to tanks being OP, if we're now at a 1 player = 1 player situation why should the AV player be getting more WP for the same action? With the instant exploding proposal will the additional WP will be removed then? Since people can't bail out You know that for a fact, do you? That vehicles versus infantry is a 1v1 deal? I wasn't aware you were CCP's statistical analyst. Have a suggestion for the Planetary Services Department? *Founder of AIV*
Juno Tristan Obscure Reference 352	Posted - 2015.02.09 11:08:00 - [28] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: I wasn't aware you were CCP's statistical analyst. classic! ADS Ramming Revenge! Should Have Stayed Inside (the Tank)
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 833	Posted - 2015.02.09 11:11:00 - [29] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Tesfa Alem wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: [ Or does that hurt your poor pilot feelings? So trolling is what this is about. If thats your point of veiw then, whatever man. Can't be botherd to mess with trolls. Pot calling the kettle black, there Not at all. Reading your reactions to people who are trying to discuss the merits of of your idea. Juno said he was divided on it, but instead of talking about the pros and cons , you are reacting scarcastically. Pilot reactions are ranging from disagreement to intrigue. Nobody's calling you names, or talking about "AV feelings". You are the only one being sarcastic here. Given your Planetary Services initiative, i can tell you can put together a reasoned argument when you want. Since you are deliberatly not, and resorting to being personal and accusatory, in this instance you are either way off your game, or just trying to incite a pilot reaction. You want to discuss the pros and cons, i'll bite. There plenty of ways where we can talk about nailing dropships where they can explode instantly. But if you want to have it your way or the highway, then its not worth dealing with. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 7023	Posted - 2015.02.09 11:16:00 - [30] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Every thread can be an anti-vehicle thread if you try hard enough! Did someone invoke my presence? Why yes, yes you did! Vehicle hate in 3...2...OOH! SHINY! wanders off. AV



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