So tonight in MinFW I was roaming around in a State Gunnlogi, with;

20gj Railgun X2
80gj Railgun
Militia Heavy Shield Booster
Militia Heavy Shield Extender X2
Militia Powered Upgrade
Militia Railgun Ammo Expansion Unit

and not a single AV'er could scratch it. Even after being hit by three swarms, I'd just activate the Booster and back to full health. Only thing that could kill me was another tank.

So in summary, I do believe that something has to be adjusted to balance out the AV-Vehicle situation. If a swarm and forge can't scratch a tank with militia modules, something's wrong.

For CCP agreeing with this is completely stupid. A fully militia fitted tank bragging about how he's OP and how he should be nerfed? Sounds like some dedicated AV trying to pull a fast one on you. Shields are meant to be strong for a short while, but once our modules are on cool down we'll get popped in seconds. 1 alone AV suit should not be able to pop a fully proto tank unless officer weaponry was used. Stop listening to people like this about buffing/nerfing of things. Vehicle buffs/nerfs should only be conversed by the competitive player base, not just someone who pulls out a militia tank and thinks he's all of a sudden a god. The players running vehicles in PC could tell you the balances/imbalances better then this guy ever can. But with this said AV could use a little nerfing. After raising the weekly SP cap to 750,000 almost everyone has some type of proto AV making vehicles disadvantaged against AV. The only thing wrong with tanks at the moment is the ancient issue of red line rail tanks. I specced into my vehicles to fight not guard a redline with a triple damage modded particle cannons. Stop trying to find ways to buff AV, there are way too many proto swarms and plasma cannons with a forge reving up behind them ready for a killshot to do that. For every good vehicle specialists theres at least 10 proto AV users, therefore if you continue to only listen to the AV all the vehicles will be nerfed into oblivion.

I never just "roam". Always at the objectives trying to secure them for our side, and in this case, kill other vehicles and any infantry inbetween.
As for the forger, they do what, 1500-2100 at proto level? In the time it would take you to kill me with a forge, (4 hits with proto assault forge, or 4 hits with a Breach forge), I'd of tailed it out of there and come back at full health. 12s (Quickest forge charge time for Assault) is easily enough time to find cover and regen, even with the 25% reduction. (So, 9s)

For CCP agreeing with this is completely stupid. A fully militia fitted tank bragging about how he's OP and how he should be nerfed? Sounds like some dedicated AV trying to pull a fast one on you. Shields are meant to be strong for a short while, but once our modules are on cool down we'll get popped in seconds. 1 alone AV suit should not be able to pop a fully proto tank unless officer weaponry was used. Stop listening to people like this about buffing/nerfing of things. Vehicle buffs/nerfs should only be conversed by the competitive player base, not just someone who pulls out a militia tank and thinks he's all of a sudden a god. The players running vehicles in PC could tell you the balances/imbalances better then this guy ever can. But with this said AV could use a little nerfing. After raising the weekly SP cap to 750,000 almost everyone has some type of proto AV making vehicles disadvantaged against AV. The only thing wrong with tanks at the moment is the ancient issue of red line rail tanks. I specced into my vehicles to fight not guard a redline with a triple damage modded particle cannons. Stop trying to find ways to buff AV, there are way too many proto swarms and plasma cannons with a forge reving up behind them ready for a killshot to do that. For every good vehicle specialists theres at least 10 proto AV users, therefore if you continue to only listen to the AV all the vehicles will be nerfed into oblivion.

^Someone's a bit of a cynical moron. The reason I post things like this, and get listened to about it, is because I never cry for a nerf/buff because someone owned me repeatedly with it, but because I actively test these things out. Considering you think CCP are agreeing with me is ridiculous, their proposed Vehicle Changes were around long before this post. Git-smart-fast in future before commenting.
As for your comment Derpty Derp, it barely qualifies as acknowledging. Saying that I'm living in a perfect calculations universe....your last post insinuates you live in a perfect scenario universe. Works both ways pal.

Gunnlogis are pretty OP, and Maddies UP. Take a look at the HAV thread in Feedback for rebalancing efforts.

Rattati,

Blindly believing and encouraging posts like these are part of the balance problem.

A random player claims to have a gunlogi with 4000 shields, this is the same amount of armor a madrugar has BEFORE adding plates or armor repairers.

The same random player now claims he is hit with 2 volleys of swarms, which even at militia do 1000 damage per volley, so now he is down to 2000 shields and hits his shield booster, and this makes shield tanks OP?

If the av player had proto swarms and a damage mod that tanks would pop in one clip.

Not exactly, even on a proto mindo with a complex damage mod that tank would still survive a clip which would do around 3504.39 damage to shields in 3 volleys. So after 3 volleys the tank would have 495.61 shield left and that's not taking into account what recharges in the time it takes each volley to reach the tank, the use of a booster, & the use of a shield hardener. It also assumes each missile of each volley hits. Of course it's still closer to being popped than most are comfortable with.

The shield would rep zero points during flight time

There was no hardener in his build

He is complaining that his tank didn't pop when a swarmer shot at him twice when any capable minded av player would pop that tank in under 10 seconds

The last two sentences were more of a general statement rather than specific to the OP's fit.

Not in one clip though.

your last post insinuates you live in a perfect scenario universe. Works both ways pal.

Not exactly, even on a proto mindo with a complex damage mod that tank would still survive a clip which would do around 3504.39 damage to shields in 3 volleys. So after 3 volleys the tank would have 495.61 shield left and that's not taking into account what recharges in the time it takes each volley to reach the tank, the use of a booster, & the use of a shield hardener. It also assumes each missile of each volley hits. Of course it's still closer to being popped than most are comfortable with.

I don't think u had a good aver with a minima do work for your tank

Gunnlogis are pretty OP, and Maddies UP. Take a look at the HAV thread in Feedback for rebalancing efforts.