God dammit. We all know shield HAVs are way outperforming.

Try the Madrugar with militia modules and see for yourself. Don't make AV UP, make shield HAVs OP...

or galmando with mods and PLC

nearly killed an incubus, gunnlogi, madrugar with std anti armor fit and a plc
galmando even more op

Did you just 'roam' or did you actually do something useful in the match... I find if you actually go where you can be useful to the team, staying alive becomes more difficult.

Where did the forger come into it? I'm pretty sure if I were forging you, you'd die in that militia gear.


Should 2 AV = instant death for a vehicle, when you can only have 5 vehicles, vs 16 AV (obviously no one would go a full 16 man AV squad and still win a match, but you can easily have 2 or 3 more AV than vehicles and switch back to light weapons when the infantry arrives.)




You must be, when I tank I find they go with the expensive 'fireworks display' and I drive off with plenty of shields left.




Nice to see you finally changed your mind about that... I recall you suggesting the Maddi was better than the Gunni because hp maths. Kept going on about nerfing the thing into the ground, lol.

What did you do in the match? How much wp?

Did they try and ambush you? Use fluxes?

If I can't shrug that off, you certainly can't.

Maybe they should stop using militia forge guns I have no problem taking tanks out with an ADV AFG and Lai Dai's I use this thing that very few people have discovered. Teamwork I know so difficult.

Here we go again.

By three swarms, do you mean STD? Darkside? Because if they're PRO from a level 5 Minmando, you're nearly dead. If it's 3 different people, then I absolutely don't believe you.

Explosive is +20% A / -20% S


+1 for that though. However the problem is that there are no proto vehicles so proto AV has been somewhat balanced against STD vehicles.

Had a swarm fire at me 3 times for 14k damage the other day, was epic.

Then again, I use a madruger... I should just jump on the wagon and get a gunlogi with a rail like the other 90% of dust ;~;

For CCP agreeing with this is completely stupid. A fully militia fitted tank bragging about how he's OP and how he should be nerfed? Sounds like some dedicated AV trying to pull a fast one on you. Shields are meant to be strong for a short while, but once our modules are on cool down we'll get popped in seconds. 1 alone AV suit should not be able to pop a fully proto tank unless officer weaponry was used. Stop listening to people like this about buffing/nerfing of things. Vehicle buffs/nerfs should only be conversed by the competitive player base, not just someone who pulls out a militia tank and thinks he's all of a sudden a god. The players running vehicles in PC could tell you the balances/imbalances better then this guy ever can. But with this said AV could use a little nerfing. After raising the weekly SP cap to 750,000 almost everyone has some type of proto AV making vehicles disadvantaged against AV. The only thing wrong with tanks at the moment is the ancient issue of red line rail tanks. I specced into my vehicles to fight not guard a redline with a triple damage modded particle cannons. Stop trying to find ways to buff AV, there are way too many proto swarms and plasma cannons with a forge reving up behind them ready for a killshot to do that. For every good vehicle specialists theres at least 10 proto AV users, therefore if you continue to only listen to the AV all the vehicles will be nerfed into oblivion.

Not exactly, even on a proto mindo with a complex damage mod that tank would still survive a clip which would do around 3504.39 damage to shields in 3 volleys. So after 3 volleys the tank would have 495.61 shield left and that's not taking into account what recharges in the time it takes each volley to reach the tank, the use of a booster, & the use of a shield hardener. It also assumes each missile of each volley hits. Of course it's still closer to being popped than most are comfortable with.

I don't think u had a good aver with a minima do work for your tank