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Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 687	Posted - 2015.01.29 02:00:00 - [1] - Quote Edau Skir2 wrote: So tonight in MinFW I was roaming around in a State Gunnlogi, with; 20gj Railgun X2 80gj Railgun Militia Heavy Shield Booster Militia Heavy Shield Extender X2 Militia Powered Upgrade Militia Railgun Ammo Expansion Unit and not a single AV'er could scratch it. Even after being hit by three swarms, I'd just activate the Booster and back to full health. Only thing that could kill me was another tank. So in summary, I do believe that something has to be adjusted to balance out the AV-Vehicle situation. If a swarm and forge can't scratch a tank with militia modules, something's wrong. Did you just 'roam' or did you actually do something useful in the match... I find if you actually go where you can be useful to the team, staying alive becomes more difficult. Where did the forger come into it? I'm pretty sure if I were forging you, you'd die in that militia gear. Should 2 AV = instant death for a vehicle, when you can only have 5 vehicles, vs 16 AV (obviously no one would go a full 16 man AV squad and still win a match, but you can easily have 2 or 3 more AV than vehicles and switch back to light weapons when the infantry arrives.) Chimichanga66605 wrote: Flux Orbitals anyone? Am I the only one who uses those 300 WP against shield tanks before I attack? You must be, when I tank I find they go with the expensive 'fireworks display' and I drive off with plenty of shields left. CCP Rattati wrote: Gunnlogis are pretty OP, and Maddies UP. Take a look at the HAV thread in Feedback for rebalancing efforts. Nice to see you finally changed your mind about that... I recall you suggesting the Maddi was better than the Gunni because hp maths. Kept going on about nerfing the thing into the ground, lol.
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 698	Posted - 2015.02.01 22:43:00 - [2] - Quote Edau Skir2 wrote: I never just "roam". Always at the objectives trying to secure them for our side, and in this case, kill other vehicles and any infantry inbetween. As for the forger, they do what, 1500-2100 at proto level? In the time it would take you to kill me with a forge, (4 hits with proto assault forge, or 4 hits with a Breach forge), I'd of tailed it out of there and come back at full health. 12s (Quickest forge charge time for Assault) is easily enough time to find cover and regen, even with the 25% reduction. (So, 9s) What's stopping me from getting into a good position where I can hit you over half the map? What's stopping me from using an LAV to chase you down? What's stopping me from using a flux or two? What's stopping me from shooting your weak point? What is it about AV vs Vehicle battles, that forces every calculation to be decided based on [AV is stupid and can't think for itself] vs [vehicle knows it's maximum capabilities and has perfect awareness] ??? Lets put this to infantry vs infantry, if I want to down a sentinel suit I have to outplay the heavy suit, because it has more hp at every tier than me... Should I just complain and say "I should be able to take the heavy on in a head to head just by spraying it's body?" or should I complain when a scout dodges my wild inaccurate spray of bullets and makes off to a safe place? Lets say in this mathematically 'perfect' universe of yours, I hit you with a flux, you then use your booster, which fails because of the second flux, I then have the forge charged and manage to pump a round into your weak spot... What tier of things do I need to kill you, or even just leave you with only enough hp to take a hit from a shotgun? I'm also not sure on why we're suggesting a State Gunni counts as militia... If the issue is that it requires no skill points then perhaps we should just increase the 'skill level' requirements to be the same as the normal Gunni and have a state Sica as it's replacement... Show me an immortal Sica if you can.
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 698	Posted - 2015.02.02 23:41:00 - [3] - Quote Edau Skir2 wrote: your last post insinuates you live in a perfect scenario universe. Works both ways pal. That would be my point. It does work both ways, so why only consider the one?

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