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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:

Soraya Xel wrote:

Also, actually, nobody at CCP ever said "I promise", "we promise", or the word "promise" either. So in addition to your poor expectations that the new EP should be forced to follow the old EP's path to run the game into the ground, you've decided that a tentative plan, which did not to fruition, now amounts to a "promise".

Soraya Xel wrote:

Maken Tosch wrote:

Technically Viktor does have a point that CCP needs to be held accountable for its lack of maintaining its promises. Even if the promise was a very loose promise like "we hope to implement [insert feature here] by this time" or "we hope to fix [insert broken mechanic here] by this time" or whatever. A promise is a promise.

"We hope" is now a promise? o_o Wut?

So when you look at the current roadmap, if something gets bumped a patch or doesn't happen, we're going to get this whole "but CCP promised me!" thing? That's the sort of attitude that makes CCP hesitant to share their plans. Please do not make my job of getting them to communicate stuff harder by being completely and totally unreasonable.

Was only following in your footsteps when you also claimed that the 2013 fanfest made promises.

Soraya Xel wrote:

I would highlight two things here:

1. Last Fanfest was a train wreck. (Personal opinion.) The Fanfest before it was a bunch of promises that never happened. (Definite fact.) I, for one, am glad we are not going for round three on this trend.

2. Generally, if you want to get a bunch of big reveals for Fanfest, you have to hold some information back for a bit to get a big announcement together. I, also for one, would rather CCP just tell us what's up. Something the CPM has been actively encouraging.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2483144#post2483144

But you know whatever try to bash others for claims you made two months ago even going as far as stating that promises were made and it was a "Definite fact". easy to flip back and forth on a topic when it's most beneficial to you.

lolCPM

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Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5222	Posted - 2015.01.06 07:07:00 - [61] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Technically Viktor does have a point that CCP needs to be held accountable for its lack of maintaining its promises. Even if the promise was a very loose promise like "we hope to implement [insert feature here] by this time" or "we hope to fix [insert broken mechanic here] by this time" or whatever. A promise is a promise. "We hope" is now a promise? o_o Wut? So when you look at the current roadmap, if something gets bumped a patch or doesn't happen, we're going to get this whole "but CCP promised me!" thing? That's the sort of attitude that makes CCP hesitant to share their plans. Please do not make my job of getting them to communicate stuff harder by being completely and totally unreasonable. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Z3dog BIG BAD W0LVES 99	Posted - 2015.01.06 07:13:00 - [62] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Z3dog wrote: 1913 DfLo wrote: I'm wondering how simple it will be. Will there be restrictions or fees? Can we actually sell/trade our BPO's? What do y'all think? Let us know if you have info. I'll bet that it will require Aurum to use. Calling it right here. Will bring this post back up in February when this happens. Not likely. If there are going to be fees imposed, those fees will likely be that of Eve Online's broker fees and sales taxes which take off only a small percentage of the value of the sale. It will be absolutely stupid for CCP to require AUR payment just to sell a junk item. I don't see that ever happening. You're acting like something being stupid will stop CCP from doing it. bandwidth lol And totally not p2w haha
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 10682	Posted - 2015.01.06 07:34:00 - [63] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Technically Viktor does have a point that CCP needs to be held accountable for its lack of maintaining its promises. Even if the promise was a very loose promise like "we hope to implement [insert feature here] by this time" or "we hope to fix [insert broken mechanic here] by this time" or whatever. A promise is a promise. "We hope" is now a promise? o_o Wut? So when you look at the current roadmap, if something gets bumped a patch or doesn't happen, we're going to get this whole "but CCP promised me!" thing? That's the sort of attitude that makes CCP hesitant to share their plans. Please do not make my job of getting them to communicate stuff harder by being completely and totally unreasonable. If CCP bumps off a feature due to delays, then they should at least own up to that delay and say "sorry". But if they bump it back and pretend that nothing happened, they're going to get some angry reactions. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1721	Posted - 2015.01.06 08:39:00 - [64] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Technically Viktor does have a point that CCP needs to be held accountable for its lack of maintaining its promises. Even if the promise was a very loose promise like "we hope to implement [insert feature here] by this time" or "we hope to fix [insert broken mechanic here] by this time" or whatever. A promise is a promise. "We hope" is now a promise? o_o Wut? So when you look at the current roadmap, if something gets bumped a patch or doesn't happen, we're going to get this whole "but CCP promised me!" thing? That's the sort of attitude that makes CCP hesitant to share their plans. Please do not make my job of getting them to communicate stuff harder by being completely and totally unreasonable. I can not speak for the others involved but I know the promises I see broken are specifically the "10 year road map" and "laser focused on the PS3". These are things that CCP repeated countless times and then threw them out the window in the blink of an eye. These actions permanently hurt my thinking on anything CCP has to say in the future and while it is not required in any way a simple apology and some actual explanation in to their thought process on these actions would certainly make me more likely to care about this game. It is to a point where I have moved most of my gaming time to Eve and love it but thanks to their past actions I still refuse to pre pay for more than a month or two at a time. Having a game good enough that I would prepay for a 1 year subscription but a company that does not garner the same trust is not good by any stretch of the imagination.
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 260	Posted - 2015.01.06 08:47:00 - [65] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Yeah that's super fcked up. Everything CCP promised is now out the window. Dude, the previous EP was promising all sorts of over the top nonsense that the dev team could never pull off. CCP Rouge and Rattati had to wipe the slate clean and start over. Dust needed to have things prioritized; I hate to say it, but vehicle parity isn't exactly ultra important to getting new players in Dust. /me hears the vehicle pilot horde coming... I'm not saying having racial vehicle parity isn't cool! New players are Dust's lifeblood. Without them this game dies. We need new players to keep revenues up. So long as Dust continues living CCP can work on the stuff we want. Unfortunately for us, CCP develops as fast as old people ***. a free BPO LAV like there used to be would be awesome. especially once the racial LAVs are out. It would be nice to not be the only one at an objective waiting for the other team to slaughter me Rise and shine CCP. It's time to implement ping based match making.
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3450	Posted - 2015.01.06 08:49:00 - [66] - Quote Damit I really need to find a ps3 so i can sell my angels cartel Lav. That things got be worn 500k by know of not more =ƒÿå. +all the closed beta and squad cup officer gear I have kicking around =ƒÿå You can never have to many chaples -Templar True adamance
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 743	Posted - 2015.01.06 09:07:00 - [67] - Quote A simple rule when interacting with CPM+CCP: -do not trust them -they are there to rip you off -if they can make money with it they will do it -there are no promises only "false advertisement" to keep the sheeps calm I wouldnt be surprised when CCP would say at the eve fanfest that they gonna pull the plug on dust within 1-3 months after announcing it. Just remember last years "keynote" and its apocalyptic effect it had on the community. Im sure they gonna top it this year. And i will watch it so in case if it happends just so i can say that i told ya. Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 261	Posted - 2015.01.06 09:35:00 - [68] - Quote Im sure last years keynote was just a scare to destroy the large corps. and it worked Rise and shine CCP. It's time to implement ping based match making.
Sequal's Back Les Desanusseurs 88	Posted - 2015.01.06 10:46:00 - [69] - Quote Hey! It's just gonna be a send item button like the send ISK we already have. CCP are waaaaay to busy to code a real trade window. Rise? That's what they used to call me. Sequal Rise. That was my name. Now I come Back to you, at the turn of the tide.
Breakin Stuff Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 6167	Posted - 2015.01.06 10:49:00 - [70] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Ku Shala wrote: it will be the same as isk is exchanged, clone (a) gives x number of item to clone (b) I am expecting this. "Send Item" basically. This means there will be a market for trustworthy middlemen. DUST versions of chribba. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.


ChribbaX Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions 1438	Posted - 2015.01.06 11:18:00 - [71] - Quote I'm ready to assist /c DUSTSearch DUSTBoard DUST Server Status

Breakin Stuff Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 6167	Posted - 2015.01.06 11:23:00 - [72] - Quote Oddly so am I. Chribba proved a long time ago that scamming is a penny farmer game. There was just no trade system to back up doing it. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 6185	Posted - 2015.01.06 13:30:00 - [73] - Quote OP, simple player trading has been pushed to Next Release 1.1 (March). Just call me Ripple. Ripple Riley. @Ripley_Riley
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1680	Posted - 2015.01.06 15:57:00 - [74] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: 1913 DfLo wrote: Can we actually sell/trade our BPO's? Trading BPOs discourages AUR sales so, no, I don't see them allowing us to trade BPOs between players. ...But on the other hand, that would enable people to buy BPOs, the most wanted AUR stuff, in order to sell to others for isk. Same principle as PLEX. Although there are a ton of things already that can be used for same boosters not being the least. Pro-choice! For hazardous self-activated inertial dampeners! We want to live on the edge (((of MCC)))
1913 DfLo ScReWeD uP InC Learning Alliance 162	Posted - 2015.01.06 17:06:00 - [75] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: OP, simple player trading has been pushed to Next Release 1.1 (March). Well that sucks. Just saw that. Thanks for the update. o7 *Are You ScReWeD uP?* *Recruit BPO's*
Nirwanda Vaughns 1182	Posted - 2015.01.06 18:08:00 - [76] - Quote Anyone with a balac Ck.0 and SMG/Sniper rifle looking to sell one copy of each i'll happily fork out 25m for the 3 items just to have one of each Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2839	Posted - 2015.01.06 18:45:00 - [77] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: It's not that EP made all the old promises, it's that CCP made all the old promises. I think you are confusing "promises" with "vision". At the end of the day, it's water under the bridge, and nothing can change the past.
Nirwanda Vaughns 1185	Posted - 2015.01.06 18:51:00 - [78] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: It's not that EP made all the old promises, it's that CCP made all the old promises. I think you are confusing "promises" with "vision". At the end of the day, it's water under the bridge, and nothing can change the past. Marty McFly says otherwise Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner
Harpyja Legio DXIV 2243	Posted - 2015.01.06 19:02:00 - [79] - Quote Nevermind "By His light, and His will"- The Scriptures, 12:32
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 10685	Posted - 2015.01.06 20:16:00 - [80] - Quote 1913 DfLo wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: OP, simple player trading has been pushed to Next Release 1.1 (March). Well that sucks. Just saw that. Thanks for the update. o7 Well, at the very least, Simple Crafting was pushed forward to the 1.1 version of the next release which means we'll get both Simple Trading and Simple Crafting at the same time. Or so we hope. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.

Avinash Decker Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 163	Posted - 2015.01.06 20:49:00 - [81] - Quote All the stuff on trello is tentative, I think a lot of stuff will get pushed back and probably never come out before Dust 514 shuts down .
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Back and Forth 6833	Posted - 2015.01.06 20:51:00 - [82] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: It's not that EP made all the old promises, it's that CCP made all the old promises. I think you are confusing "promises" with "vision". At the end of the day, it's water under the bridge, and nothing can change the past. When they said they were laser focused on dust was that just a vision? Then half a year later had a playable version of EVE legion. CBM [Event] Dust Hunger Games PC, ISK,EVE & Corp Services
JIMvc2 The Wanga Empire Strikes Back 494	Posted - 2015.01.06 20:53:00 - [83] - Quote I"m getting rid of the Crappy Templar Dropsuits and the Scrambler pistol and Laser RifleNOT the Scrambler rifle. For 30 million ISK first come first serve. Send me a message by psn if interested. Serious buyers only. Happy hunting. my psn is JIMvc2 MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5622	Posted - 2015.01.06 21:01:00 - [84] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Well, I do not see it damaging the sales at a noticeable rate, in fact it may just improve the richer figures in the AUR community to buy and sell more. People trading BPOs for ISK might perk up the AUR sales a bit, but consider all of the people who won't have to purchase AUR because they bought their BPO from a player. sir RAVEN WING wrote: Do you think they will allow BPCs to be traded? (Such as the Logicloop and the Flying Scotsman.) They are destructible. I don't see why CCP would care about limiting the sales on these items. They eventually perish and have to be bought with AUR. Being able to trade boosters and BPOs for ISK would lead to MORE AUR sales in my opinion. The people spending money now will be able to spend $ for ISK. Similar to what you see in Eve with Plex. The demand for ISK Boosters and BPOs would be high and there are plenty of people that would rather trade some AUR stuff for ISK than grind in crappy gear. Low payouts ensure that only the best are running decent gear.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 6217	Posted - 2015.01.06 21:06:00 - [85] - Quote JIMvc2 wrote: I"m getting rid of the Crappy Templar Dropsuits and the Scrambler pistol and Laser RifleNOT the Scrambler rifle. For 30 million ISK first come first serve. Send me a message by psn if interested. Serious buyers only. Happy hunting. my psn is JIMvc2 Messaged you. Have an ad in the Code Bazaar already? Just call me Ripple. Ripple Riley. @Ripley_Riley
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5237	Posted - 2015.01.06 21:51:00 - [86] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Being able to trade boosters and BPOs for ISK would lead to MORE AUR sales in my opinion. The people spending money now will be able to spend $ for ISK. Similar to what you see in Eve with Plex. The demand for ISK Boosters and BPOs would be high and there are plenty of people that would rather trade some AUR stuff for ISK than grind in crappy gear. Thor, you are I are on the same page here. Trading of AUR items will probably be a big thing to help CCP's AUR sales, in addition to relieving a lot of concerns of free players by allowing them to buy AUR items with ISK. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Denchlad 7 Dead Man's Game 1612	Posted - 2015.01.06 23:36:00 - [87] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Being able to trade boosters and BPOs for ISK would lead to MORE AUR sales in my opinion. The people spending money now will be able to spend $ for ISK. Similar to what you see in Eve with Plex. The demand for ISK Boosters and BPOs would be high and there are plenty of people that would rather trade some AUR stuff for ISK than grind in crappy gear. Thor, you are I are on the same page here. Trading of AUR items will probably be a big thing to help CCP's AUR sales, in addition to relieving a lot of concerns of free players by allowing them to buy AUR items with ISK. I know for a fact that some of my disposable income would go towards BPOs for ISK, even if I am stupidly rich. If it helps Dust develop with the additional funds I and others are ploughing at CCP, I'm more than happy to do so. "Why build ontop of foundations that aren't solid?" Pilot & Assault. Complete twat.
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Back and Forth 6964	Posted - 2015.01.13 02:03:00 - [88] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Also, actually, nobody at CCP ever said "I promise", "we promise", or the word "promise" either. So in addition to your poor expectations that the new EP should be forced to follow the old EP's path to run the game into the ground, you've decided that a tentative plan, which did not to fruition, now amounts to a "promise". Was only following in your footsteps when you also claimed that the 2013 fanfest made promises. Soraya Xel wrote: I would highlight two things here: 1. Last Fanfest was a train wreck. (Personal opinion.) The Fanfest before it was a bunch of promises that never happened. (Definite fact.) I, for one, am glad we are not going for round three on this trend. 2. Generally, if you want to get a bunch of big reveals for Fanfest, you have to hold some information back for a bit to get a big announcement together. I, also for one, would rather CCP just tell us what's up. Something the CPM has been actively encouraging. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2483144#post2483144 But you know whatever try to bash others for claims you made two months ago. easy to flip back and forth on a topic when it's most beneficial to you. You have as much accountability as CCP. CBM [Event] Dust Hunger Games PC, ISK,EVE & Corp Services
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1770	Posted - 2015.01.13 03:19:00 - [89] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Also, actually, nobody at CCP ever said "I promise", "we promise", or the word "promise" either. So in addition to your poor expectations that the new EP should be forced to follow the old EP's path to run the game into the ground, you've decided that a tentative plan, which did not to fruition, now amounts to a "promise". Soraya Xel wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Technically Viktor does have a point that CCP needs to be held accountable for its lack of maintaining its promises. Even if the promise was a very loose promise like "we hope to implement [insert feature here] by this time" or "we hope to fix [insert broken mechanic here] by this time" or whatever. A promise is a promise. "We hope" is now a promise? o_o Wut? So when you look at the current roadmap, if something gets bumped a patch or doesn't happen, we're going to get this whole "but CCP promised me!" thing? That's the sort of attitude that makes CCP hesitant to share their plans. Please do not make my job of getting them to communicate stuff harder by being completely and totally unreasonable. Was only following in your footsteps when you also claimed that the 2013 fanfest made promises. Soraya Xel wrote: I would highlight two things here: 1. Last Fanfest was a train wreck. (Personal opinion.) The Fanfest before it was a bunch of promises that never happened. (Definite fact.) I, for one, am glad we are not going for round three on this trend. 2. Generally, if you want to get a bunch of big reveals for Fanfest, you have to hold some information back for a bit to get a big announcement together. I, also for one, would rather CCP just tell us what's up. Something the CPM has been actively encouraging. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2483144#post2483144 But you know whatever try to bash others for claims you made two months ago even going as far as stating that promises were made and it was a "Definite fact". easy to flip back and forth on a topic when it's most beneficial to you. lolCPM This must be one of the new lava maps because that was quite the burn.
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 5329	Posted - 2015.01.13 04:55:00 - [90] - Quote I felt that one. :/ I will go ahead and hide in a corner and cry for the rest of the night. I did say promises myself, and now I feel dumb as a brick. +1 Viktor Hadah Jr. You win this round. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.



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