Fear, stat whoring, lack of competitve spirit, fear, no sense

Aside from the generic BS, what are the real reasons some veteran players just act as though it isn't there as an option?

Aside from the generic BS, what are the real reasons some veteran players just act as though it isn't there as an option?

Because I'm not maxed out in Logistics, Sentinels, or Shotgun Scouts.

Therefor there's no point in playing.

You clearly haven't played pc recently. Assaults and commandos are everywhere

6) Flat-out resentment. After CCP neglect of PC allowed PC ISK to ruin the rest of the game(it still is), i wanted nothing more to do with it.

I think there are plenty of people out there. But to be honest I think getting people to squad up is step 1.

That is true in many cases, but I disagree that it holds true here. And while mechanics should be evaluated based on the game (EVE mechanics do not work in DUST by default), they should still be designed with a New Eden mentality. Spawning money from nowhere is specifically an idea that should almost never happen.

the implementation of PC is just bad. they're trying to glorify a 16 vs 16 match into some sort of false MMO appeal.. i dont judge people for enjoying PC but the fact i can't bring my gunner because of the 16 player limit makes me detest dust all together.. the whole game is just a gimmick.. it makes me disgusted with the past devs who promised a game with 24 players on each team. who promised some kind of free roam or PVE when you owned a district. who promised procedual generation of planets (as if they could actually pull that one off).. no instead they remove corp battles which were more interesting and accessible than PC, and said "now here's a glorified scoreboard.. no corp battle for you", eliminating choices in an attempt to corral people into PC- "here it is now make the most of it.." to which the community proceeded to do by farming it for billions of isk.. ...competition my ass...

PC needs to be like ps2 big maps that take days for battles to end. Need tons of players to fight so alliance would be good and a ringer hub, but there needs to be a purpose something that makes it worth it. Right now on ps2 they have big ass battles that mean less than the **** I take in the morning but if they combined that with dust and added more features to pc then it'd be amazing.

pc should be bigger and longer than its now. . .

Hello there!
I'm more than willing to play PC. :)

Any corp that doesn't mind a small visitor to ring for them every now and then?
Murphys? (Im in your pub channel every day.)
FA?
Titans?
1up?
Any other smaller corps that wont mind a friendly player every now and then?
^^
I am in the U.S. and would prefer to ring for North American corps on grounds of lag, etc. But I am open to help all.
I was PC-ready BEFORE PC existed. I made my wealth, left, and I'm still PC-ready.

I understand how important clear comms are. Good communication is vital. Not a bunch of screaming and cursing every time you get killed. I'm not new at this at all. Old Giant at your service. ^^

PC needs to be like ps2 big maps that take days for battles to end. Need tons of players to fight so alliance would be good and a ringer hub, but there needs to be a purpose something that makes it worth it. Right now on ps2 they have big ass battles that mean less than the **** I take in the morning but if they combined that with dust and added more features to pc then it'd be amazing.

I'm still just seeing excuses.

If you don't PC because of lag, then I'll tell you what we did back in early PC, when half to entire teams were timing out mid-match.
1. Restart your PS3 before every PC match.
2. Organize PC matches for your alliance to be regional if at all possible. You can't be NA and then try to challenge an Oceanic corp to PC, then fuss about lag. That's idiotic.
3. Set your servers in options. (Arguable effects on PC, but some reported success doing this.)
4. Turn off other shlt in your house that uses bandwidth.

If you don't PC because of bigger corps:
1. Negotiate with bigger corps for a district or two. They will let you have one to try your hand at PC.
2. Join an alliance. So that you have many corps to pull ringers from.
3. Set your timers at inconvienient hours.
4. Attack your own district with a sub-corp to occupy time until you have better reinforcements. (This is also a good method for a corp to practice for PC, and learn the ins and outs of their territory. Some of your members move to the sub-corp for practice.)

There is a workaround for nearly every complaint.



That's a system similar to Planetside 2. Which is a good system, but how exactly would that translate into Dust with Dust having so many districts? Not just 3 big ones. Much of what Dust is more what "it has to be" rather than what "it was intended to be", due to PS3 limitations.
What you have mind is something we may see in Legion.

If you don't play PC because it's not like PS2... then I don't know what to say.

It needs to be somewhere in the middle.

If a corp like Imps wanted to be mercs, but hold a district or two they could. Make districts upgradable to the point where you can limit the amount of attacks or the window available for attack. Successful defenses slowly increase payout modifiers.

But I want to see PC where you could decide to attack and have a battle happen in a short time frame. Spotineity would make people grow their numbers and be forced to use those players to defend their territory. With a team/platoon building UI you could have mutilple teams running all the time.

As someone said the corp wallet could automatically pay out to those who are putting in work for their corps. Being able to zerg on some level would create a situation where corps would grow and be able to be moderately successful. A Faction Warfare Army could even have some measure of success. Waves of BPO fit .4 KDR players ensuring corps with too many districts are able to logistically handle those battles.

CCP could fiddle with the numbers to make sure quality always trumps quantity, but still have thousands of players able to participate. If a corp only has 2 districts, but fights 4 or 5 battles during their window per district they can make more than they make now if the mechanics were right.

Takes too much time and effort for little to no gain
have to put up with people bs
everyone plays by the meta instead playing for fun
its cookie cutter fits everywhere
LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!
and PC is really just too much pain in the ass

Planetary Conquest is just a lobby for top corps , they are the lords of war so a starting corp will never have some chance or opportunities because their enemies are extremely rich and can effor attacks , reattacks , farming isk .... So there -¦s no way to solve this unless CCP adds some new game options like a corp battle where both teams can discuss the rules before playing it ( non orbitals , all in advanced gear , no vehicules , both teams with the same clones , etc ... ).

Oh almost forgot, not everyone likes people yelling on mics and not having clear comms, don't like being blamed for a loss.. Both happen more than they should.