DUST Search - Why don't more players strive for PC?

Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:

Tesfa Alem wrote:

Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:

Boll Spirit wrote:

Planetary Conquest is just a lobby for top corps , they are the lords of war so a starting corp will never have some chance or opportunities because their enemies are extremely rich and can effor attacks , reattacks , farming isk .... So there -¦s no way to solve this unless CCP adds some new game options like a corp battle where both teams can discuss the rules before playing it ( non orbitals , all in advanced gear , no vehicules , both teams with the same clones , etc ... ).

Right now districts are literally being given away to corps who can field a team and want a PC district.

Sure because you farm isk from the fights, not from owning a district. Not from the real, dirty, nasty fights, but giving districts to people they could easily beat.

If the small corps were good enough to hold them, they wouldn't ask permission to take them. They would just take them.

Hand over a district now, stomp them at every attack window, but do not take a district. They have to buy clone packs, you just ship them in from a neighboring district for free. Or they pay for ringers to show up. (guess from which corp)

Now there is no real reward for keeping them, and taking them is a pain in the behind for all of the reasons in this thread.

Not true


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Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 655	Posted - 2014.12.25 10:21:00 - [1] - Quote When it comes to organizing the whole mess, there are no rewards for playing PC. From a smaller corps point of view, it sucks trying to get everyone a chance to PC, knowing full well in 48 hrs more than 16 players may show, but only half of them in Proto gear, 2/3 hardly squad up as a team and know what the other guys are doing. For a measley mil? Frankly you find the kind of guys who say they are ready for PC but are the first to switch to starter fits as soon as there is a tough corp on the other side in a pub match. On the other hand, it is a bit more fun ringin for PC and the nervous tension right before a match. You're gutted when you lose and happy when you win. The match itself is usually garbage. And after i run into the supposed PC Pros in pubs, you can see the PC tactic stink oozing off of them. a good example is last week i believe. Me and Delboy were tanking vs 5 FA and white lion. Shot down derriths' python, he came back in a rail tank, killed him again, comes back with his whole squad in AV gunning for me a delboy. Derrith in adouble hardened particle cannon, the 5 other guys including white lion outside with proto forge guns and plasma cannons. Me and del were redlined trying to fight our way out, i lost 2 tanks and i think delboy lost three. MCC timers ticking, FA pull back, derrith jumps back into a python and Delboy blew him promptly out of the sky. Not only do the FA boys lose but were cloned, because the 6 strongest players were preocupied with 2. I got nothing against derrith or FA but this is the PC mentality. I'm not going to wait 24 hours for that. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 658	Posted - 2014.12.25 22:26:00 - [2] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Boll Spirit wrote: Planetary Conquest is just a lobby for top corps , they are the lords of war so a starting corp will never have some chance or opportunities because their enemies are extremely rich and can effor attacks , reattacks , farming isk .... So there -¦s no way to solve this unless CCP adds some new game options like a corp battle where both teams can discuss the rules before playing it ( non orbitals , all in advanced gear , no vehicules , both teams with the same clones , etc ... ). Right now districts are literally being given away to corps who can field a team and want a PC district. Sure because you farm isk from the fights, not from owning a district. Not from the real, dirty, nasty fights, but giving districts to people they could easily beat. If the small corps were good enough to hold them, they wouldn't ask permission to take them. They would just take them. Hand over a district now, stomp them at every attack window, but do not take a district. They have to buy clone packs, you just ship them in from a neighboring district for free. Or they pay for ringers to show up. (guess from which corp) Now there is no real reward for keeping them, and taking them is a pain in the behind for all of the reasons in this thread. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 660	Posted - 2014.12.27 10:21:00 - [3] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Tesfa Alem wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Boll Spirit wrote: Planetary Conquest is just a lobby for top corps , they are the lords of war so a starting corp will never have some chance or opportunities because their enemies are extremely rich and can effor attacks , reattacks , farming isk .... So there -¦s no way to solve this unless CCP adds some new game options like a corp battle where both teams can discuss the rules before playing it ( non orbitals , all in advanced gear , no vehicules , both teams with the same clones , etc ... ). Right now districts are literally being given away to corps who can field a team and want a PC district. Sure because you farm isk from the fights, not from owning a district. Not from the real, dirty, nasty fights, but giving districts to people they could easily beat. If the small corps were good enough to hold them, they wouldn't ask permission to take them. They would just take them. Hand over a district now, stomp them at every attack window, but do not take a district. They have to buy clone packs, you just ship them in from a neighboring district for free. Or they pay for ringers to show up. (guess from which corp) Now there is no real reward for keeping them, and taking them is a pain in the behind for all of the reasons in this thread. Not true This is true, its exactly what went down when i was in Acme Special Forces. We got a chance to break into PC, and were handed a district, a "training district." The larger corps involved knew full well we were trying to get new players up to scratch, and that most of our guys could not run proto, so they farmed us for a few weeks and then FA overran us. That was the match where i stole derrith's python. PC finaly broke Ace special forces. Tried rebranding it, but the hostilities it stirred up in players fragmented us further. This is in no part the fault of any of the larger corps or CCP for that matter. Its is a huge part to play in whether or not corps or vets want to get into PC. For every F.A. there is an Ancient Exiles, or a dozen Acme S.F. Whether or not it makes you better, i'll believe that once i see PC players run ADV suits in Pubs; Credit where credit is due, i've seen saxxonamish do it, powerh8tr from rainbow effect do it, i knew molon labe can do it from when i was in thier pub channel. Most of my regular squadmates online can stomp the crap out of people with or with out proto. Not just pyrex and the masters of Universe (cringed typing that out) but Lowdevil, Red 198, Puppy Souls, Vala Prime, Lurch1st, Gramps 76, Halla Mur, Spaceman Rob...just to name a few. My top 16 players that i squad up with can take on anybody in the game. We've done it being just 6. Sad thing is nothing to unify all of us, and with different corps, different priorities about what we want from dust. But I certainly know simply saying "pc is the top end blah blah blah" simply isnt true. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.