This bandwidth nonsense doesn't seem to come from us.

It seems like some scheme dreamed up by CCP and they are saying it is by popular demand.

I don't want it.

Say good bye to the super soldier who can carry a worthless team to victory.

Bandwidth has been around a long time as an idea.

It is going to change the way the game is played, but for the better. People will need to be more strategic with uplink placement, and logis will be needed more.

Bandwidth has been around a long time as an idea.

It is going to change the way the game is played, but for the better. People will need to be more strategic with uplink placement, and logis will be needed more.

The bandwidth idea has been around for a long time as far as I can remember before CCP Rattati brought it up. I like the idea as well and I'm also cross-training into logistics.

Eve Online players have to deal with bandwidth as well for operating their drones. It's an old concept that is brought into Dust to eliminate the spamming of equipment. I hate seeing equipment spammed around supply depots, spammed all over a city, and stupidly placed in a random spot without thinking it through.

This bandwidth feature will force players to finally think carefully on where to place their equipment, get rid of equipment spam is ruining frame rates, and give logis a stronger role due to their inherent bandwidth advantage over all other suits. This will also ensure that scouts no longer dominate as light-logis.

Can someone clarify for me...

I understand the new suit bandwidth stat and how it directly applies to the amount of equipment that can be deployed for that suit.

But what if I deploy, for example, in a proto scout suit with drop links, lay them, and then switch to an Assault. Do I lose the uplinks?

And, what about the same scenario but after I drop links I change into the same proto scout suit only fitted with RE"S instead? Same bandwidth but fit differently. Do I lose the links then as well?

Thanks.

Staying in a logistics dropsuit in order to prevent uplinks from disappearing is complete bogus.

Being a support role and being a combat role just became mutually exclusive.

What if I'm the only person on the team who has the strategic insight to set uplinks. What if I'm also the only person on the team who has any gun game. Historically, I have been able to satisfy both needs in a single match and steer my team back to victory.

In the future, if I get stuck with a useless team, I am being disempowered to rectify my team's imbroglio.

CCP Rattati, in the following link, said that as long as you spawn in with the suit with the same bandwidth or class, you won't lose the deployed equipment.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=181490

Staying in a logistics dropsuit in order to prevent uplinks from disappearing is complete bogus.

Being a support role and being a combat role just became mutually exclusive.

What if I'm the only person on the team who has the strategic insight to set uplinks. What if I'm also the only person on the team who has any gun game. Historically, I have been able to satisfy both needs in a single match and steer my team back to victory.

In the future, if I get stuck with a useless team, I am being disempowered to rectify my team's imbroglio.

If you are the only person in the team that has any gun game at all, then there is no hope for your team.

PS: The team is suppose to work together for victory. A single solo player was never meant to win the match for the rest of the team.

Can someone clarify for me...

I understand the new suit bandwidth stat and how it directly applies to the amount of equipment that can be deployed for that suit.

But what if I deploy, for example, in a proto scout suit with drop links, lay them, and then switch to an Assault. Do I lose the uplinks?

And, what about the same scenario but after I drop links I change into the same proto scout suit only fitted with RE"S instead? Same bandwidth but fit differently. Do I lose the links then as well?

Thanks.

Why do I consistently get matched with incompetent players on my team? Why do I regularly finish top 3 with the most kills? The only thing that bandwidth accomplishes is neutering the more experienced players from helping an otherwise useless bunch of blueberries.

PS: Team play is only as good as matchmaking. (which sucks)

Which is why many of us want Scotty fired.

Spawning as a Scout or Logistics, throwing Uplinks everywhere, and swapping to a different suit such as a Sentinel is simply too powerful. Let's take a look at two different play styles of the Support Logistics and the Sentinel.

*Sentinel: Heavily armored, moves slowly. Has the highest DPS in the game with a weapon that has short to medium range. Primarily meant for point defense or for attacking a specific location to break into the enemy's base.
*Logistics: Weaker armor than that of the Assault, slower movement. Faster than the Sentinel but has FAR less HP and FAR less DPS. They carry additional equipment to help their team. In short, they give up a lot to have those extra equipment.

Now imagine the balance nightmare of a Sentinel that dropped 2 Uplinks and 4 Triage Nanohives. You have a Sentinel that is no different than a Logistics really. In short, you would be doing two roles at the same time that need to be made completely separate. It lets the developers begin balancing things from there.

I don't really follow the idea of "I am Superman; I need to be able to put Uplinks because my team is worthless!" So many people have said the same thing that with our very small community it is likely that several Superman are on the same team. You can still run in with your Scout to drop Uplinks to help your team get back from the Redline. I don't see how "I need to be able to do everything!" is an acceptable argument against this change. Remember that it affects your opponents too. If they all go Sentinel to hold off a push, no more Uplinks.

It will be a different kind of game. I don't see it being the end of the world or any kind of hyperbole.

Then let's not implement bandwidth until we have fixed the problem of generating suitable teams.

You thought AFKers were bad now? Just wait until bandwidth hits.

Who cares about what happens in EVE?

Bandwidth in EVE so Bandwidth in Dust......Really?

Lets see spaceships that cannot be switched, rarely get destroyed, cost alot vs disposable solders?

oh yes I see the similarities.

AS BW is going to be deployed I do not like

Ok, now you're just throwing around wild claims. You're not helping your cause here with this.

Staying in a logistics dropsuit in order to prevent uplinks from disappearing is complete bogus.

Being a support role and being a combat role just became mutually exclusive.

What if I'm the only person on the team who has the strategic insight to set uplinks. What if I'm also the only person on the team who has any gun game. Historically, I have been able to satisfy both needs in a single match and steer my team back to victory.

In the future, if I get stuck with a useless team, I am being disempowered to rectify my team's imbroglio.

What is going to happen is demoralization.

For instance, do you think a highly potent soldier is going to say, "oh, my team needs uplinks. I'll go deploy 7 to critical locations and then carry soldiers around in my sluggish and vulnerable transport dropship for the rest of the match while I remain in my logi suit."

No, they will become demoralized, deploy the uplinks and then send their merc back to the groundspawn running in circles for the remainder of the match.

Whereas previously, they could have deployed uplinks, changed suits and carried on the battle as an infantryman.

Ultimately, that's a fault in teamwork. A man is a part of a team, he cannot be a team.

Thats the issue w/ it before. A single man could spawn a logi, drop equipment, then switch to a heavy or assault and then wreck the opposing team. Not Teamwork.

Support and Combat won't be mutually exclusive. Just because you lack the foresight to fit the equipment you want on your suit doesn't mean that this sin't a good idea. I run w/ hives or needles on my assault. I compromised, but it worked. And it still will. You wont play one man bandstand, but you can still have the capacity to provide support.

/sigh

If my team gets redlined, I will NOT be depending on a logi to try to sneak across the enemy. Sneaking is a scout's job, not a logi's. All I need is 2 of my R-9 uplinks deployed using an ADV scout with cloak (cloaks don't have BW cost) and my team is good to sneak in behind the enemy. Trying to use a Logi to sneak through is like trying to break into a house in the dead of night while rattling a bunch of cow bells for everyone to hear.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nz-J9Hn9KHcx_b3iG1Q9egQMzWm9LUUzeZxZNC-mu-Q/edit#gid=471840307