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Stevez Wingyip Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 13	Posted - 2014.12.02 11:58:00 - [1] - Quote Okay so I am currently running the Frontline starter fit. I have about 600 of them now. The AUR ones with the combat rifle for Minmatar. I just got my core skills to 5 and that's that. I am SO sick and tired of getting killed by Proto this and proto that. Mainly Breaches and HMGs. I ALMOST ALWAYS get them down to about 50 armour in my starter fit. And I know if I had equal gear, I would be destroying these people. It's so dis satisfying when you get killed to someone that is more SP than you in an FPS. I literally am losing my patience and I don't want to quit but it sucks because my KDA has dropped so much this last week since I got out of the academy where people are equal geared. I had about a 6.15 KDR which has not dropped to 1.6 and dropping still fast. Which is ruining my chances of ever getting into a PC corp. I have no idea what to do and even getting to an advanced level suit and modules takes so long. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am considering buying the APEX Nomad suit tomorrow which hopefully will help even just a little. But I just don't know what to do. So many new players quit because of this reason but there must be something I can do to compete on a fair level.
Juno Tristan Obscure Reference 200	Posted - 2014.12.02 12:08:00 - [2] - Quote Squad up (either squad finder in the neocom tab or by joining a random squad once deployed) You'll probably hear this a lot but its the best way to avoid getting stomped as a new player. Don't forget it's not just the proto gear, older players will also know the maps, the guns, the different suits strengths and weaknesses. It all adds up to a sizable advantage which will take time to overcome.
Stevez Wingyip Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 13	Posted - 2014.12.02 12:16:00 - [3] - Quote Juno Tristan wrote: Squad up (either squad finder in the neocom tab or by joining a random squad once deployed) You'll probably hear this a lot but its the best way to avoid getting stomped as a new player. Don't forget it's not just the proto gear, older players will also know the maps, the guns, the different suits strengths and weaknesses. It all adds up to a sizable advantage which will take time to overcome. I know every map and fit off by heart. I know when to back off and when to fight but there are little to know fights I can take and the fights I am forced to fight I still NEARLY get them.
Jack Boost Zarena Family 532	Posted - 2014.12.02 12:17:00 - [4] - Quote Going stright to level 5 is onside good, but downside is you lack anything at start elese. At last take some average skils. If you have no patience... not much you have to take. Anyway you can always: - be more aware what is going on around you. - EWAR helps a lot. - try be smart and decide 'encounter' for your favor. (yes sometimes you must run) I don't recomend you, for now, heavy dropsuit - little more HP don't equal better expirience from play. Head for scout or very fast assault/logi If you can stay in perma-run you will do fine and you will know where is enemy (most of times). Weapon don't have meaning at this , because you fast can change distace to make optimal dmg or withdraw. And probaly formus give you advise: stay in squad ;) Remeber one... now you aim for players that play very long and know most of tricks. Not much time left...
Clone D Grundstein Automation 889	Posted - 2014.12.02 12:21:00 - [5] - Quote 1. Use cover more often. Give yourself enough time to fully recharge shield/armor even if it means breaking off the engagement and letting your team finish the job. Expect to get shot through obstacles from time to time; it happens. 2. Fight on the fringe. Don't let yourself get surrounded. Always stay on the outside of the enemy perimeter if you can. 3. You're playing on a network, so sometimes you will continue getting hit even after you are behind cover. Leave yourself an HP margin of safety so that if you continue to get hit behind cover, then you won't die. 4. You're playing on a network, so sometimes enemies are not really facing the direction that you see them facing. If you see someone, always assume that they see you too and are already facing you and shooting you. You have a choice: Take them head on and try to kill them first by facing them, strafing or weaving and opening fire; or run for cover before you begin the engagement. 5. Always maneuver next to cover. It might take you longer to travel, but you'll live longer. 6. If you have some buddies, squad up and use tactical maneuvers, giving cover fire and holding a defensive line. If you don't have a squad, try the HIGHLAND PRIDE chat channel for a friendly group of mercs. ISK Trader channel: blitz
Clone D Grundstein Automation 889	Posted - 2014.12.02 12:24:00 - [6] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: Juno Tristan wrote: Squad up (either squad finder in the neocom tab or by joining a random squad once deployed) You'll probably hear this a lot but its the best way to avoid getting stomped as a new player. Don't forget it's not just the proto gear, older players will also know the maps, the guns, the different suits strengths and weaknesses. It all adds up to a sizable advantage which will take time to overcome. I know every map and fit off by heart. I know when to back off and when to fight but there are little to know fights I can take and the fights I am forced to fight I still NEARLY get them. If you are of equal skill with the opponent and they are using proto and you are using MLT or STD gear, then you will nearly get them before you die. Proto has an advantage. Try switching up your tactics if you want to take down proto gear with MLT fittings. ISK Trader channel: blitz
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2235	Posted - 2014.12.02 12:33:00 - [7] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: Okay so I am currently running the Frontline starter fit. I have about 600 of them now. The AUR ones with the combat rifle for Minmatar. I just got my core skills to 5 and that's that. I am SO sick and tired of getting killed by Proto this and proto that. Mainly Breaches and HMGs. I ALMOST ALWAYS get them down to about 50 armour in my starter fit. And I know if I had equal gear, I would be destroying these people. It's so dis satisfying when you get killed to someone that is more SP than you in an FPS. I literally am losing my patience and I don't want to quit but it sucks because my KDA has dropped so much this last week since I got out of the academy where people are equal geared. I had about a 6.15 KDR which has not dropped to 1.6 and dropping still fast. Which is ruining my chances of ever getting into a PC corp. I have no idea what to do and even getting to an advanced level suit and modules takes so long. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am considering buying the APEX Nomad suit tomorrow which hopefully will help even just a little. But I just don't know what to do. So many new players quit because of this reason but there must be something I can do to compete on a fair level. the problem is protobears and eliteists with mad isk flow from passive PC isk dont have anything to do between the hourly FW match or daily PC match which is mostly +10m per locked district in isk of which they dont need anyway. bring back Corp VS Corp battles with no isk/sp gains just Epeen rank on some league table and they will bankroll the HELL out of those battles.. which also gives nice isk sink for those rich protobear PC elitists #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Stevez Wingyip Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 13	Posted - 2014.12.02 12:37:00 - [8] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: Juno Tristan wrote: Squad up (either squad finder in the neocom tab or by joining a random squad once deployed) You'll probably hear this a lot but its the best way to avoid getting stomped as a new player. Don't forget it's not just the proto gear, older players will also know the maps, the guns, the different suits strengths and weaknesses. It all adds up to a sizable advantage which will take time to overcome. I know every map and fit off by heart. I know when to back off and when to fight but there are little to know fights I can take and the fights I am forced to fight I still NEARLY get them. I have played this game since beta but have made a new character by the way.
Juno Tristan Obscure Reference 200	Posted - 2014.12.02 12:46:00 - [9] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: Stevez Wingyip wrote: Juno Tristan wrote: Squad up (either squad finder in the neocom tab or by joining a random squad once deployed) You'll probably hear this a lot but its the best way to avoid getting stomped as a new player. Don't forget it's not just the proto gear, older players will also know the maps, the guns, the different suits strengths and weaknesses. It all adds up to a sizable advantage which will take time to overcome. I know every map and fit off by heart. I know when to back off and when to fight but there are little to know fights I can take and the fights I am forced to fight I still NEARLY get them. I have played this game since beta but have made a new character by the way. Fair enough, the biggest advantage in this game is still squadding up because they can finish off the enemies that get you and revive you afterwards
Bright Steel Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 437	Posted - 2014.12.02 12:57:00 - [10] - Quote Use a breach AR and you'll win every time But seriously there is nothing better then to take a proto in a militia fit, even if it took me three militia fits That's why I run minmatar, when you die to my minja it's like getting slapped in the face with a trout cause all you needed was 5 bullets with your breach AR and you couldn't even do that The Best Worst game you can't stop playing..... DUST

Spectral Clone Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3196	Posted - 2014.12.02 12:57:00 - [11] - Quote Its a fricking game, relax. If you are a good player, your KDR wont matter, you will find a good corp anyway. EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet".
Atiim Titans of Phoenix 14074	Posted - 2014.12.02 14:03:00 - [12] - Quote Why are you running a Starter Fit? The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Luna McDuffing COALICION LATINA Smart Deploy 114	Posted - 2014.12.02 14:16:00 - [13] - Quote If you are "ALMOST" killing them then this is a good indication that you need to level up the proficiency of your chosen weapon. This will give you th extra kick to drive them over the edge. The second thing then is more hp. An extra module (shield or armor) You may want to change say a repair module for a reactive plate that kind of thing. Just like in real life the rich man has a huge advantage over the poor man. In Dust rich means both ISK and SP. A better suit gives you more hit points and the ability to equip a better weapon. It is very possible for a militia suit to destroy a proto suit but the odds are on the proto suits favor simply because he has that extra hp to maneuver and that extra kkck to kill you faster. Also, he also has other skill sets that gives them the edge like say e-war. Even a heavy can benefit from that range aplifier and profile dampening. One thing to note is that I don't think started fits benefit from suit bonuses. For example the militia scout does not get racial bonuses. If you want the racial bonus you need the basic suit. At the very least use a basic suit instead of the starter fit ooorrrrr use your starter fit with a better weapon. This is what I do to isk farm. I have a starter fit with a basic weapon for the extra bullets.Even of that weapon is basic it still benefits from the proficiency skills so, my basic X rifle will hit harder that your militia X rifle. If all else fails have you tried the shotgun. The catch here is getting in close but once you do and if you have the patience there is very little people can do against a level 4 proficiency shotgun. Even the basic shotgun is dangerous. Ofcourse use whatever works for you.
Kalante Schiffer Ancient Exiles. 828	Posted - 2014.12.02 15:12:00 - [14] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: Okay so I am currently running the Frontline starter fit. I have about 600 of them now. The AUR ones with the combat rifle for Minmatar. I just got my core skills to 5 and that's that. I am SO sick and tired of getting killed by Proto this and proto that. Mainly Breaches and HMGs. I ALMOST ALWAYS get them down to about 50 armour in my starter fit. And I know if I had equal gear, I would be destroying these people. It's so dis satisfying when you get killed to someone that is more SP than you in an FPS. I literally am losing my patience and I don't want to quit but it sucks because my KDA has dropped so much this last week since I got out of the academy where people are equal geared. I had about a 6.15 KDR which has not dropped to 1.6 and dropping still fast. Which is ruining my chances of ever getting into a PC corp. I have no idea what to do and even getting to an advanced level suit and modules takes so long. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am considering buying the APEX Nomad suit tomorrow which hopefully will help even just a little. But I just don't know what to do. So many new players quit because of this reason but there must be something I can do to compete on a fair level. You dont need a good KD to get into PC. PC slayer of gods.
Ryme Intrinseca Dead Man's Game RUST415 2152	Posted - 2014.12.02 15:15:00 - [15] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: Okay so I am currently running the Frontline starter fit. I have about 600 of them now. The AUR ones with the combat rifle for Minmatar.
Stevez Wingyip Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 16	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:23:00 - [16] - Quote Kalante Schiffer wrote: Stevez Wingyip wrote: Okay so I am currently running the Frontline starter fit. I have about 600 of them now. The AUR ones with the combat rifle for Minmatar. I just got my core skills to 5 and that's that. I am SO sick and tired of getting killed by Proto this and proto that. Mainly Breaches and HMGs. I ALMOST ALWAYS get them down to about 50 armour in my starter fit. And I know if I had equal gear, I would be destroying these people. It's so dis satisfying when you get killed to someone that is more SP than you in an FPS. I literally am losing my patience and I don't want to quit but it sucks because my KDA has dropped so much this last week since I got out of the academy where people are equal geared. I had about a 6.15 KDR which has not dropped to 1.6 and dropping still fast. Which is ruining my chances of ever getting into a PC corp. I have no idea what to do and even getting to an advanced level suit and modules takes so long. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am considering buying the APEX Nomad suit tomorrow which hopefully will help even just a little. But I just don't know what to do. So many new players quit because of this reason but there must be something I can do to compete on a fair level. You dont need a good KD to get into PC. Most corps that I have checked require a 1.5 KDR or higher as a minimum entry requirement. :( I want to be able to get into a good corp and play with the same team often in the long run. KDR is just a stress element that makes me afraid to fight.
Stevez Wingyip Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 16	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:24:00 - [17] - Quote Atiim wrote: Why are you running a Starter Fit? Because it's a new character with less than 1M SP.
Stevez Wingyip Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 16	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:25:00 - [18] - Quote Juno Tristan wrote: Stevez Wingyip wrote: Stevez Wingyip wrote: Juno Tristan wrote: Squad up (either squad finder in the neocom tab or by joining a random squad once deployed) You'll probably hear this a lot but its the best way to avoid getting stomped as a new player. Don't forget it's not just the proto gear, older players will also know the maps, the guns, the different suits strengths and weaknesses. It all adds up to a sizable advantage which will take time to overcome. I know every map and fit off by heart. I know when to back off and when to fight but there are little to know fights I can take and the fights I am forced to fight I still NEARLY get them. I have played this game since beta but have made a new character by the way. Fair enough, the biggest advantage in this game is still squadding up because they can finish off the enemies that get you and revive you afterwards Yeah, I have not tried squads since "the incident" with the really creepy people haha.
RayRay James Titans of Phoenix 773	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:27:00 - [19] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: I literally am losing my patience and I don't want to quit but it sucks because my KDA has dropped so much this last week since I got out of the academy where people are equal geared. I had about a 6.15 KDR which has not dropped to 1.6 and dropping still fast. Which is ruining my chances of ever getting into a PC corp. I have a 0.93 and have been in multiple PC corps. KD/R means nothing in Dust.
pagl1u M Dead Man's Game RUST415 992	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:34:00 - [20] - Quote Dust is not a FPS... So... One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!

Stevez Wingyip Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 18	Posted - 2014.12.02 17:38:00 - [21] - Quote RayRay James wrote: Stevez Wingyip wrote: I literally am losing my patience and I don't want to quit but it sucks because my KDA has dropped so much this last week since I got out of the academy where people are equal geared. I had about a 6.15 KDR which has not dropped to 1.6 and dropping still fast. Which is ruining my chances of ever getting into a PC corp. I have a 0.93 and have been in multiple PC corps. KD/R means nothing in Dust. Thanks, this gives me confidence ;)
Summa Militum Hidd3n Dragon 89	Posted - 2014.12.02 18:12:00 - [22] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: Okay so I am currently running the Frontline starter fit. I have about 600 of them now. The AUR ones with the combat rifle for Minmatar. I just got my core skills to 5 and that's that. I am SO sick and tired of getting killed by Proto this and proto that. Mainly Breaches and HMGs. I ALMOST ALWAYS get them down to about 50 armour in my starter fit. And I know if I had equal gear, I would be destroying these people. It's so dis satisfying when you get killed to someone that is more SP than you in an FPS. I literally am losing my patience and I don't want to quit but it sucks because my KDA has dropped so much this last week since I got out of the academy where people are equal geared. I had about a 6.15 KDR which has not dropped to 1.6 and dropping still fast. Which is ruining my chances of ever getting into a PC corp. I have no idea what to do and even getting to an advanced level suit and modules takes so long. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am considering buying the APEX Nomad suit tomorrow which hopefully will help even just a little. But I just don't know what to do. So many new players quit because of this reason but there must be something I can do to compete on a fair level. To compete on a fair level you are going to need to put in the time to level up your character just like everyone else. I would suggest instead of spending Aurum on better suits you should spend it on Passive Boosters so you can earn SP quicker. When I first started playing I didn't go to the Academy you mentioned; I simply jumped into Public Matches without a squad, got completely destroyed by the other team, and began strategizing on how to win. Stick with your teammates. You can be a solo player in this game just fine but it is almost impossible to be a lonewolf unless you are a stealthy cloacked person with a shotgun. I have always viewed new players, myself included when I first started, as interns whose job is to get the veterans their coffee, assist with kills, and pick up scrap kills when there are some. I remember when I first started playing I would finish a bunch of matches with less the five kills, about a dozen deaths, but with 20 to 30 assists.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15324	Posted - 2014.12.02 18:38:00 - [23] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: Okay so I am currently running the Frontline starter fit. I have about 600 of them now. The AUR ones with the combat rifle for Minmatar. I just got my core skills to 5 and that's that. I am SO sick and tired of getting killed by Proto this and proto that. Mainly Breaches and HMGs. I ALMOST ALWAYS get them down to about 50 armour in my starter fit. And I know if I had equal gear, I would be destroying these people. It's so dis satisfying when you get killed to someone that is more SP than you in an FPS. I literally am losing my patience and I don't want to quit but it sucks because my KDA has dropped so much this last week since I got out of the academy where people are equal geared. I had about a 6.15 KDR which has not dropped to 1.6 and dropping still fast. Which is ruining my chances of ever getting into a PC corp. I have no idea what to do and even getting to an advanced level suit and modules takes so long. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am considering buying the APEX Nomad suit tomorrow which hopefully will help even just a little. But I just don't know what to do. So many new players quit because of this reason but there must be something I can do to compete on a fair level. I walked out of Academy with a 17 KDR and now I have a lesser one. It's not that you were good in the academy its that everyone that was confused as hell about how to play. The Real Dark Soul..... I mean Dust 514 starts now. I said, "Empress, I do this, I thought that you knew this. Can't stand non-believers and honest, the truth is...
dreth longbow Bank of DUST 514 76	Posted - 2014.12.02 18:48:00 - [24] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: Juno Tristan wrote: Squad up (either squad finder in the neocom tab or by joining a random squad once deployed) You'll probably hear this a lot but its the best way to avoid getting stomped as a new player. Don't forget it's not just the proto gear, older players will also know the maps, the guns, the different suits strengths and weaknesses. It all adds up to a sizable advantage which will take time to overcome. I know every map and fit off by heart. I know when to back off and when to fight but there are little to know fights I can take and the fights I am forced to fight I still NEARLY get them. If you nearly get them, then it is simple increase your delta or increase you protection or lower you profile to get the first shot off and a jump on damage. I almost exclusively run basic fits except when alot of proto's are out then I run adv fits and I do ok. Stop worrying about KDR, if you die 2 or 3x and take out 1 proto your cost is around 10K and theirs is 10x that so that is a win in my book for you.
Bright Steel Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 438	Posted - 2014.12.02 19:03:00 - [25] - Quote My advice... Let the alt sit for like two months, then once you have a solid base of SP begin. I have one alt that just hit 10million that is competitive The other is at 5 million and he's sitting there building skills So mad I could eat a chimichanga, swallow a marble, chug a quafe, bend over, fart, and drop an amarian from 100 meters..
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4926	Posted - 2014.12.02 19:06:00 - [26] - Quote Boosters brah! If you are running 2 boosters you'll hit advanced in no time, no need for proto honestly if you're a good player advanced will do you fine and the 1.8mill you'd have spent on the proto suit can go elsewhere. Founder & CEO Fatal Absolution Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought Strive. No mattter what
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 5595	Posted - 2014.12.02 19:07:00 - [27] - Quote It's not the proto gear. It's the proto SKILLS that make all the difference. I wreck with standard and militia because of this. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
DEATH THE KlD Harem. King 49	Posted - 2014.12.02 19:08:00 - [28] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: Okay so I am currently running the Frontline starter fit. I have about 600 of them now. The AUR ones with the combat rifle for Minmatar. I just got my core skills to 5 and that's that. I am SO sick and tired of getting killed by Proto this and proto that. Mainly Breaches and HMGs. I ALMOST ALWAYS get them down to about 50 armour in my starter fit. And I know if I had equal gear, I would be destroying these people. It's so dis satisfying when you get killed to someone that is more SP than you in an FPS. I literally am losing my patience and I don't want to quit but it sucks because my KDA has dropped so much this last week since I got out of the academy where people are equal geared. I had about a 6.15 KDR which has not dropped to 1.6 and dropping still fast. Which is ruining my chances of ever getting into a PC corp. I have no idea what to do and even getting to an advanced level suit and modules takes so long. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am considering buying the APEX Nomad suit tomorrow which hopefully will help even just a little. But I just don't know what to do. So many new players quit because of this reason but there must be something I can do to compete on a fair level. Quit the game. Come back when your sp is higher so you have more fun. Just be thankful all the "elite" players already quit. Otherwise you"ll just have to grind out the sp and might get burnt out in the process anyways.
CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP 159	Posted - 2014.12.02 19:17:00 - [29] - Quote DEATH THE KlD wrote: Quit the game. Come back when your sp is higher so you have more fun. Just be thankful all the "elite" players already quit. Otherwise you"ll just have to grind out the sp and might get burnt out in the process anyways. LOL The "L33t5" took one look at this joke of a game and never gave it another thought. These uber l33t spaceship g33kz that play this game are nothing compared to the glitch leetz! All the kool kidz are playin COD. DUST514 I love the dream but not the current product. Dusters - WhenGäó CCP - SoonGäó
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 19782	Posted - 2014.12.02 19:20:00 - [30] - Quote Don't worry about ruining your KDR on a new character. Mine started off at 1.2ish, and after a while it made its way up to 5.2 or so. It's also pretty meaningless. Recruiting based on KDR isn't really a thing. The Federation is not a defined region of space, of planets, of mountains, rivers, or woods. It is a vision.

DEATH THE KlD Harem. King 51	Posted - 2014.12.02 19:24:00 - [31] - Quote CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP wrote: DEATH THE KlD wrote: Quit the game. Come back when your sp is higher so you have more fun. Just be thankful all the "elite" players already quit. Otherwise you"ll just have to grind out the sp and might get burnt out in the process anyways. LOL The "L33t5" took one look at this joke of a game and never gave it another thought. These uber l33t spaceship g33kz that play this game are nothing compared to the glitch leetz! All the kool kidz are playin COD. Not gonna lie the new cod is fun but then you get this nerd who goes jet pack happy and is a bad ass, makes me think this is bs.
DEATH THE KlD Harem. King 51	Posted - 2014.12.02 19:26:00 - [32] - Quote Kdr has never mattered tbh. But it can be frustrating, make a few Alts let them sit on sp so you can test stuff out to see what you like before going balls deep on your main.
Kaeru Nayiri OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 228	Posted - 2014.12.02 19:33:00 - [33] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: Okay so I am currently running the Frontline starter fit. I have about 600 of them now. The AUR ones with the combat rifle for Minmatar. I just got my core skills to 5 and that's that. I am SO sick and tired of getting killed by Proto this and proto that. Mainly Breaches and HMGs. I ALMOST ALWAYS get them down to about 50 armour in my starter fit. And I know if I had equal gear, I would be destroying these people. It's so dis satisfying when you get killed to someone that is more SP than you in an FPS. I literally am losing my patience and I don't want to quit but it sucks because my KDA has dropped so much this last week since I got out of the academy where people are equal geared. I had about a 6.15 KDR which has not dropped to 1.6 and dropping still fast. Which is ruining my chances of ever getting into a PC corp. I have no idea what to do and even getting to an advanced level suit and modules takes so long. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am considering buying the APEX Nomad suit tomorrow which hopefully will help even just a little. But I just don't know what to do. So many new players quit because of this reason but there must be something I can do to compete on a fair level. Don't buy new stuff, just get into a squad if possible. A lot of the time when people are in all proto, the real issue is they are not solo.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2395	Posted - 2014.12.02 19:33:00 - [34] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: Okay so I am currently running the Frontline starter fit. I have about 600 of them now. The AUR ones with the combat rifle for Minmatar. I just got my core skills to 5 and that's that. I am SO sick and tired of getting killed by Proto this and proto that. Mainly Breaches and HMGs. I ALMOST ALWAYS get them down to about 50 armour in my starter fit. And I know if I had equal gear, I would be destroying these people. It's so dis satisfying when you get killed to someone that is more SP than you in an FPS. I literally am losing my patience and I don't want to quit but it sucks because my KDA has dropped so much this last week since I got out of the academy where people are equal geared. I had about a 6.15 KDR which has not dropped to 1.6 and dropping still fast. Which is ruining my chances of ever getting into a PC corp. I have no idea what to do and even getting to an advanced level suit and modules takes so long. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am considering buying the APEX Nomad suit tomorrow which hopefully will help even just a little. But I just don't know what to do. So many new players quit because of this reason but there must be something I can do to compete on a fair level. Two points. #1 - If proto suits are barely killing your starter suit you're doing something right. By way of comparison, I played in starter suits for almost six months in pubs, and my KDR really suffered for it (TBH, it still is more than a year later) -- but I built up a nice wallet and I got very good with my weapon of choice, so when I did get the proto suits unlocked, I had enough ISK to fund them and enough skill to make them last. So, don't become frustrated -- you're doing something right and your day will come. #2 - If you want to get on a PC team, play (or even better, mic up and squad) with PC players and impress them. I know when I'm evaluating players for our PC team, I'm much more focused on how a person plays rather than his KDR. Said a bit differently, I'd much rather have a player on my team that goes 1:10 and defends a point from being taken than a person who goes 10:1 and loses the point.
maeth-01 2501 Savage Bullet 52	Posted - 2014.12.02 22:24:00 - [35] - Quote [/quote] Most corps that I have checked require a 1.5 KDR or higher as a minimum entry requirement. :( I want to be able to get into a good corp and play with the same team often in the long run. KDR is just a stress element that makes me afraid to fight. [/quote] Most Hardcore corps wont bother with you then till your running ADV or PROTO gear in everything....... don't worry to much about the KDR, once your going 20/0 you dont have to worry about it.... and a good corp will spot a good player *Laugh, and the world laughs with you;Weep, and you weep alone*
PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 349	Posted - 2014.12.02 22:30:00 - [36] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: Okay so I am currently running the Frontline starter fit. I have about 600 of them now. The AUR ones with the combat rifle for Minmatar. I just got my core skills to 5 and that's that. I am SO sick and tired of getting killed by Proto this and proto that. Mainly Breaches and HMGs. I ALMOST ALWAYS get them down to about 50 armour in my starter fit. And I know if I had equal gear, I would be destroying these people. It's so dis satisfying when you get killed to someone that is more SP than you in an FPS. I literally am losing my patience and I don't want to quit but it sucks because my KDA has dropped so much this last week since I got out of the academy where people are equal geared. I had about a 6.15 KDR which has not dropped to 1.6 and dropping still fast. Which is ruining my chances of ever getting into a PC corp. I have no idea what to do and even getting to an advanced level suit and modules takes so long. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am considering buying the APEX Nomad suit tomorrow which hopefully will help even just a little. But I just don't know what to do. So many new players quit because of this reason but there must be something I can do to compete on a fair level. Hers a few ideas, 1. Leave for a while and come back, you'll regain patience and have more sp 2. Join some squads who can support you 3. Learn to choose targets. If you can't take them, wait for support or hit 'em a little from a distance. If it looks good, start from a distance so you can run if he's better then u thought. I run BPOs a lot fit with militia modules (basically a pink starter fit) and can take proto heavies with self preserving tactics. If you need any specific help, reply here or mail me ingame. Gassault Calogi - Ranked #763 on the forums `- Open Beta Vet - 32mil sp - - Join the LFSquad chat -`
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 632	Posted - 2014.12.02 22:42:00 - [37] - Quote Squadding up only works if your squad isn't bad, problem is a lot of good vet players aren't going to want players without proto gear, take it from me. I specced into many different roles at adv level and rarely can find a good group because most the time when I am in proto squads with coms they just ***** at me that I'm not throwing down isk like them, regardless of my efficiency. Some pro-tips from someone who doesn't use proto: Make some militia heavy fits One with a militia hmg preferably the Minmitar one as that high base speed will help you a lot. What to do: Run with the largest concentrations of blues you can and never stop moving while going Dakka Dakka. A good sidearm for this is also the militia bolt pistol for getting cocky players standing still outside your HMG range. One with whatever for operating small turrets on LAVs/dropships (I use a militia mass driver and militia ion pistol on a militia caldari heavy) Also grab a militia LAV and make it as cheap as you can (Baloch with a speed booster and light armor rep or Onikuma with a scanner/light shield booster and light armor rep) What to do: Ride around in the LAV of your choice and quickly switch to the gun anytime you run into reds. It will take some time learning when to fight and when to flee but you will get the hang of it. Pro-tip: The turret always points in whatever direction you leave it in, so when you see some reds speed out of their engagement range, spin your turret around, then drive over to them. If you get good on timing you can speed quickly then switch to the turret quickly, this will give you time to get ready while your LAV is sliding to a stop making it harder for the reds you are fighting to snipe you off the turret. VS. most weapons even in proto unless they get extremely lucky with headshots you are going to blow them away doing this. One with a militia forge gun (I use the Gallente militia for its decent armor and shield regen, because you're going to get shot at a lot) What to do: If you can get to a roof top or cliff edge but if not just keep your distance preferably with some blues between you. Practice beaming reds of all shapes and sizes with the forge gun, if you get good at it you will almost always OHKO your opponent including all but the most brick tanked heavies. Which is okay because its pretty damn easy to shoot brick tanked heavies with a forge gun. I hope these help, I am always trying to figure out ways to cheaply counter superior forces.
Stevez Wingyip Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 18	Posted - 2014.12.02 23:04:00 - [38] - Quote Summa Militum wrote: Stevez Wingyip wrote: Okay so I am currently running the Frontline starter fit. I have about 600 of them now. The AUR ones with the combat rifle for Minmatar. I just got my core skills to 5 and that's that. I am SO sick and tired of getting killed by Proto this and proto that. Mainly Breaches and HMGs. I ALMOST ALWAYS get them down to about 50 armour in my starter fit. And I know if I had equal gear, I would be destroying these people. It's so dis satisfying when you get killed to someone that is more SP than you in an FPS. I literally am losing my patience and I don't want to quit but it sucks because my KDA has dropped so much this last week since I got out of the academy where people are equal geared. I had about a 6.15 KDR which has not dropped to 1.6 and dropping still fast. Which is ruining my chances of ever getting into a PC corp. I have no idea what to do and even getting to an advanced level suit and modules takes so long. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am considering buying the APEX Nomad suit tomorrow which hopefully will help even just a little. But I just don't know what to do. So many new players quit because of this reason but there must be something I can do to compete on a fair level. To compete on a fair level you are going to need to put in the time to level up your character just like everyone else. I would suggest instead of spending Aurum on better suits you should spend it on Passive Boosters so you can earn SP quicker. When I first started playing I didn't go to the Academy you mentioned; I simply jumped into Public Matches without a squad, got completely destroyed by the other team, and began strategizing on how to win. Stick with your teammates. You can be a solo player in this game just fine but it is almost impossible to be a lonewolf unless you are a stealthy cloacked person with a shotgun. I have always viewed new players, myself included when I first started, as interns whose job is to get the veterans their coffee, assist with kills, and pick up scrap kills when there are some. I remember when I first started playing I would finish a bunch of matches with less the five kills, about a dozen deaths, but with 20 to 30 assists. I have triple omega passives ticking and triple active boosters :) I plan to get SP as fast as possible.
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 634	Posted - 2014.12.02 23:10:00 - [39] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: Summa Militum wrote: Stevez Wingyip wrote: Okay so I am currently running the Frontline starter fit. I have about 600 of them now. The AUR ones with the combat rifle for Minmatar. I just got my core skills to 5 and that's that. I am SO sick and tired of getting killed by Proto this and proto that. Mainly Breaches and HMGs. I ALMOST ALWAYS get them down to about 50 armour in my starter fit. And I know if I had equal gear, I would be destroying these people. It's so dis satisfying when you get killed to someone that is more SP than you in an FPS. I literally am losing my patience and I don't want to quit but it sucks because my KDA has dropped so much this last week since I got out of the academy where people are equal geared. I had about a 6.15 KDR which has not dropped to 1.6 and dropping still fast. Which is ruining my chances of ever getting into a PC corp. I have no idea what to do and even getting to an advanced level suit and modules takes so long. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am considering buying the APEX Nomad suit tomorrow which hopefully will help even just a little. But I just don't know what to do. So many new players quit because of this reason but there must be something I can do to compete on a fair level. To compete on a fair level you are going to need to put in the time to level up your character just like everyone else. I would suggest instead of spending Aurum on better suits you should spend it on Passive Boosters so you can earn SP quicker. When I first started playing I didn't go to the Academy you mentioned; I simply jumped into Public Matches without a squad, got completely destroyed by the other team, and began strategizing on how to win. Stick with your teammates. You can be a solo player in this game just fine but it is almost impossible to be a lonewolf unless you are a stealthy cloacked person with a shotgun. I have always viewed new players, myself included when I first started, as interns whose job is to get the veterans their coffee, assist with kills, and pick up scrap kills when there are some. I remember when I first started playing I would finish a bunch of matches with less the five kills, about a dozen deaths, but with 20 to 30 assists. I have triple omega passives ticking and triple active boosters :) I plan to get SP as fast as possible. Best other advice I could give is to take advantage of all this new militia gear. I see many players just spam frontline suits until they get some standardized assault variant then quit the game. You aren't as efficient but if you learn how to make effective militia fits you will know how to make effective suits at higher levels. If I had 500 isk for all the cookie cutter or shitfits I run into I'd have a billion isk... sadly I don't ... DAMN YOU PAPER ADSes!!! For example the biggest difference between a ***** ass militia light minmitar shotgun suit and better suits is a cloak... like wise biggest difference between a gallente medium militia suit with a PLC and a proto gallente assault with a PLC is armor rep. Remember, this game is mostly an isk economy game when it comes to newcomers. The most important thing you can do on your team is hide behind better equipped blues and add to the pain. Might as well have fun while your at it and experiment with literally everything!
Stevez Wingyip Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 18	Posted - 2014.12.02 23:13:00 - [40] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Stevez Wingyip wrote: Summa Militum wrote: Stevez Wingyip wrote: Okay so I am currently running the Frontline starter fit. I have about 600 of them now. The AUR ones with the combat rifle for Minmatar. I just got my core skills to 5 and that's that. I am SO sick and tired of getting killed by Proto this and proto that. Mainly Breaches and HMGs. I ALMOST ALWAYS get them down to about 50 armour in my starter fit. And I know if I had equal gear, I would be destroying these people. It's so dis satisfying when you get killed to someone that is more SP than you in an FPS. I literally am losing my patience and I don't want to quit but it sucks because my KDA has dropped so much this last week since I got out of the academy where people are equal geared. I had about a 6.15 KDR which has not dropped to 1.6 and dropping still fast. Which is ruining my chances of ever getting into a PC corp. I have no idea what to do and even getting to an advanced level suit and modules takes so long. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am considering buying the APEX Nomad suit tomorrow which hopefully will help even just a little. But I just don't know what to do. So many new players quit because of this reason but there must be something I can do to compete on a fair level. To compete on a fair level you are going to need to put in the time to level up your character just like everyone else. I would suggest instead of spending Aurum on better suits you should spend it on Passive Boosters so you can earn SP quicker. When I first started playing I didn't go to the Academy you mentioned; I simply jumped into Public Matches without a squad, got completely destroyed by the other team, and began strategizing on how to win. Stick with your teammates. You can be a solo player in this game just fine but it is almost impossible to be a lonewolf unless you are a stealthy cloacked person with a shotgun. I have always viewed new players, myself included when I first started, as interns whose job is to get the veterans their coffee, assist with kills, and pick up scrap kills when there are some. I remember when I first started playing I would finish a bunch of matches with less the five kills, about a dozen deaths, but with 20 to 30 assists. I have triple omega passives ticking and triple active boosters :) I plan to get SP as fast as possible. Best other advice I could give is to take advantage of all this new militia gear. I see many players just spam frontline suits until they get some standardized assault variant then quit the game. You aren't as efficient but if you learn how to make effective militia fits you will know how to make effective suits at higher levels. If I had 500 isk for all the cookie cutter or shitfits I run into I'd have a billion isk... sadly I don't ... DAMN YOU PAPER ADSes!!! Haha, I will be buying the NOMAD APEX suit for Minmatar tomorrow night which will be nice.

Hynox Xitio Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1759	Posted - 2014.12.02 23:17:00 - [41] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: I am currently running the Frontline starter fit. Theres your problem right there, spec into something and get 'er done. I won't scatter your sorrow to the heartless fogwogglers. ( -íº -£-û -íº) /)
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 6294	Posted - 2014.12.02 23:18:00 - [42] - Quote Juno Tristan wrote: Squad up (either squad finder in the neocom tab or by joining a random squad once deployed) You'll probably hear this a lot but its the best way to avoid getting stomped as a new player. Don't forget it's not just the proto gear, older players will also know the maps, the guns, the different suits strengths and weaknesses. It all adds up to a sizable advantage which will take time to overcome. This is No. 1. Not that the other advice isn't good, but until you have the SP, find people to run with. It makes it much more fun. Plus, you may get some kills because those Proto suits attacking you will have other mercs to worry about as well. Not to mention some other fun aspects of a squad (like the one time I ran into some overseas guys, one of which started the match by playing the bagpipe over comms. Most epic start ever.) It will help relieve some of the frustration that is inevitable. Lastly, lower your expectations. If you feel yourself getting too frustrated, take a break. The forums are good for sticking with the community and giving you hope even when you are not playing. Then you can jump back in the game and have more SP to work with, and have a little less frustration the next time around. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
Summa Militum Hidd3n Dragon 89	Posted - 2014.12.02 23:23:00 - [43] - Quote RayRay James wrote: Stevez Wingyip wrote: I literally am losing my patience and I don't want to quit but it sucks because my KDA has dropped so much this last week since I got out of the academy where people are equal geared. I had about a 6.15 KDR which has not dropped to 1.6 and dropping still fast. Which is ruining my chances of ever getting into a PC corp. I have a 0.93 and have been in multiple PC corps. KD/R means nothing in Dust. That is bullshit unless you are a logi who spends their time in the match repairing peoples armor. All relative stats measure a persons contribution in the match. KDR will not matter ONLY if your team is unable to run out of clones. I have lost matches (Domination, Skirmish, and Ambush) that my team would have won had it not been for some pathetic assholes whose lack of care towards their KDR resulted in the depletion of the clone reserves.
Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1330	Posted - 2014.12.03 00:25:00 - [44] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: Stevez Wingyip wrote: Juno Tristan wrote: Squad up (either squad finder in the neocom tab or by joining a random squad once deployed) You'll probably hear this a lot but its the best way to avoid getting stomped as a new player. Don't forget it's not just the proto gear, older players will also know the maps, the guns, the different suits strengths and weaknesses. It all adds up to a sizable advantage which will take time to overcome. I know every map and fit off by heart. I know when to back off and when to fight but there are little to know fights I can take and the fights I am forced to fight I still NEARLY get them. I have played this game since beta but have made a new character by the way. That kind of changes everything. You now know how new players feel and how the new players you stomped in the Academy felt. You should know by now that this is just the way the game is, new players are screwed. Because, that's why.
Jathniel G I A N T 1305	Posted - 2014.12.03 00:27:00 - [45] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: Okay so I am currently running the Frontline starter fit. I have about 600 of them now. The AUR ones with the combat rifle for Minmatar. I just got my core skills to 5 and that's that. I am SO sick and tired of getting killed by Proto this and proto that. Mainly Breaches and HMGs. I ALMOST ALWAYS get them down to about 50 armour in my starter fit. And I know if I had equal gear, I would be destroying these people. It's so dis satisfying when you get killed to someone that is more SP than you in an FPS. I literally am losing my patience and I don't want to quit but it sucks because my KDA has dropped so much this last week since I got out of the academy where people are equal geared. I had about a 6.15 KDR which has not dropped to 1.6 and dropping still fast. Which is ruining my chances of ever getting into a PC corp. I have no idea what to do and even getting to an advanced level suit and modules takes so long. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am considering buying the APEX Nomad suit tomorrow which hopefully will help even just a little. But I just don't know what to do. So many new players quit because of this reason but there must be something I can do to compete on a fair level. It's important to understand, that "Core Skills" isn't just what you find under Dropsuit Upgrades. Core Skills can mean anything that has a meaningful passive impact on your performance. Proto SKILLS > Proto SUITS Anyone with decent aim, and head knowledge + proto level skills will wreck face in a Frontline suit. Here is my list of choice skills that DEFINE "Core Skills" for dropsuit combat. Under Dropsuit Upgrades: 1. Dropsuit Upgrades - 4 2. Dropsuit Biotic Upgrades - 5. 3. Dropsuit Armor Upgrades (and all skills within it) - 5. 4. Dropsuit Core Upgrades - 5. 5. Dropsuit Shield Upgrades (and all skills within it) - 5. 6. Dropsuit Electronics (and all skills within it) - 5. 7. Dropsuit Engineering - 5. 8. Systems Hacking - 5. Under Weaponry: 1. Weaponry - 3 (only go 5 if you intend to go Heavy). 2. Handheld Weapon Upgrades - 5. 3. Light Weapon Operation - 5. 4. Sidearm Operation - 5. 5. Explosives - 5. Literally, everything else outside of these skills is OPTIONAL. No matter who you are, and no matter what suit you run, the skills on this list will benefit you. These skills maximize your base and potential eHP. These maximize your base and potential mobility. They open up and maximize your base and potential EWAR capability. They increase your base and potential hacking speed. And the skills under weaponry combine with the dropsuit bonuses to dramatically increase your dropsuit fitting efficiency. Lastly, and noticeably... everyone one of these skills increases the ability of your beloved Frontline suit and other starter fits. These are your "Core Skills". From these skills you then build into the type of suit and weapons you wish to use. So... I'm doing Minmatar Assault? So I want a Combat Rifle. I find it under Light Weapons and select the following: Combat Rifle Operation - 5. Combat Rifle Proficiency - 5. Combat Rifle Sharpshooter - 5. Those 3 skills directly affect the behavior of the weapon positively when you shoot it. Those unlock proto guns, but more importantly, they increase the lethality of every combat rifle you will ever use (even your militia combat rifle becomes extremely deadly with these skills). The next 3 skills Rapid Reload, Capacity, and Fitting Optimization; are NOT required, but I highly recommend them when you have the extra SP to spare one day. You would do the same for whatever sidearm you choose. Whether you go Flaylock or SMG. Doing this will cost millions of SP; NOT counting the SP to unlock your chosen Dropsuit(s). So spend wisely. Getting all of your core skills maxed out is no small feat. But it will make the difference that you seek. Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
Stevez Wingyip Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 18	Posted - 2014.12.03 00:30:00 - [46] - Quote Jathniel wrote: Stevez Wingyip wrote: Okay so I am currently running the Frontline starter fit. I have about 600 of them now. The AUR ones with the combat rifle for Minmatar. I just got my core skills to 5 and that's that. I am SO sick and tired of getting killed by Proto this and proto that. Mainly Breaches and HMGs. I ALMOST ALWAYS get them down to about 50 armour in my starter fit. And I know if I had equal gear, I would be destroying these people. It's so dis satisfying when you get killed to someone that is more SP than you in an FPS. I literally am losing my patience and I don't want to quit but it sucks because my KDA has dropped so much this last week since I got out of the academy where people are equal geared. I had about a 6.15 KDR which has not dropped to 1.6 and dropping still fast. Which is ruining my chances of ever getting into a PC corp. I have no idea what to do and even getting to an advanced level suit and modules takes so long. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am considering buying the APEX Nomad suit tomorrow which hopefully will help even just a little. But I just don't know what to do. So many new players quit because of this reason but there must be something I can do to compete on a fair level. It's important to understand, that "Core Skills" isn't just what you find under Dropsuit Upgrades. Core Skills can mean anything that has a meaningful passive impact on your performance. Proto SKILLS > Proto SUITS Anyone with decent aim, and head knowledge + proto level skills will wreck face in a Frontline suit. Here is my list of choice skills that DEFINE "Core Skills" for dropsuit combat. Under Dropsuit Upgrades: 1. Dropsuit Upgrades - 4 2. Dropsuit Biotic Upgrades - 5. 3. Dropsuit Armor Upgrades (and all skills within it) - 5. 4. Dropsuit Core Upgrades - 5. 5. Dropsuit Shield Upgrades (and all skills within it) - 5. 6. Dropsuit Electronics (and all skills within it) - 5. 7. Dropsuit Engineering - 5. 8. Systems Hacking - 5. Under Weaponry: 1. Weaponry - 3 (only go 5 if you intend to go Heavy). 2. Handheld Weapon Upgrades - 5. 3. Light Weapon Operation - 5. 4. Sidearm Operation - 5. 5. Explosives - 5. Literally, everything else outside of these skills is OPTIONAL. No matter who you are, and no matter what suit you run, the skills on this list will benefit you. These skills maximize your base and potential eHP. These maximize your base and potential mobility. They open up and maximize your base and potential EWAR capability. They increase your base and potential hacking speed. And the skills under weaponry combine with the dropsuit bonuses to dramatically increase your dropsuit fitting efficiency. Lastly, and noticeably... everyone one of these skills increases the ability of your beloved Frontline suit and other starter fits. These are your "Core Skills". From these skills you then build into the type of suit and weapons you wish to use. So... I'm doing Minmatar Assault? So I want a Combat Rifle. I find it under Light Weapons and select the following: Combat Rifle Operation - 5. Combat Rifle Proficiency - 5. Combat Rifle Sharpshooter - 5. Those 3 skills directly affect the behavior of the weapon positively when you shoot it. Those unlock proto guns, but more importantly, they increase the lethality of every combat rifle you will ever use (even your militia combat rifle becomes extremely deadly with these skills). The next 3 skills Rapid Reload, Capacity, and Fitting Optimization; are NOT required, but I highly recommend them when you have the extra SP to spare one day. You would do the same for whatever sidearm you choose. Whether you go Flaylock or SMG. Doing this will cost millions of SP; NOT counting the SP to unlock your chosen Dropsuit(s). So spend wisely. Getting all of your core skills maxed out is no small feat. But it will make the difference that you seek. Thank you so much for this list. That really helps! :)
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 637	Posted - 2014.12.03 00:35:00 - [47] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Stevez Wingyip wrote: Summa Militum wrote: Stevez Wingyip wrote: Okay so I am currently running the Frontline starter fit. I have about 600 of them now. The AUR ones with the combat rifle for Minmatar. I just got my core skills to 5 and that's that. I am SO sick and tired of getting killed by Proto this and proto that. Mainly Breaches and HMGs. I ALMOST ALWAYS get them down to about 50 armour in my starter fit. And I know if I had equal gear, I would be destroying these people. It's so dis satisfying when you get killed to someone that is more SP than you in an FPS. I literally am losing my patience and I don't want to quit but it sucks because my KDA has dropped so much this last week since I got out of the academy where people are equal geared. I had about a 6.15 KDR which has not dropped to 1.6 and dropping still fast. Which is ruining my chances of ever getting into a PC corp. I have no idea what to do and even getting to an advanced level suit and modules takes so long. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am considering buying the APEX Nomad suit tomorrow which hopefully will help even just a little. But I just don't know what to do. So many new players quit because of this reason but there must be something I can do to compete on a fair level. To compete on a fair level you are going to need to put in the time to level up your character just like everyone else. I would suggest instead of spending Aurum on better suits you should spend it on Passive Boosters so you can earn SP quicker. When I first started playing I didn't go to the Academy you mentioned; I simply jumped into Public Matches without a squad, got completely destroyed by the other team, and began strategizing on how to win. Stick with your teammates. You can be a solo player in this game just fine but it is almost impossible to be a lonewolf unless you are a stealthy cloacked person with a shotgun. I have always viewed new players, myself included when I first started, as interns whose job is to get the veterans their coffee, assist with kills, and pick up scrap kills when there are some. I remember when I first started playing I would finish a bunch of matches with less the five kills, about a dozen deaths, but with 20 to 30 assists. I have triple omega passives ticking and triple active boosters :) I plan to get SP as fast as possible. Best other advice I could give is to take advantage of all this new militia gear. I see many players just spam frontline suits until they get some standardized assault variant then quit the game. You aren't as efficient but if you learn how to make effective militia fits you will know how to make effective suits at higher levels. If I had 500 isk for all the cookie cutter or shitfits I run into I'd have a billion isk... sadly I don't ... DAMN YOU PAPER ADSes!!! Haha, I will be buying the NOMAD APEX suit for Minmatar tomorrow night which will be nice. If that's the assault one then yes definitely, it's really good for an infinite use suit. If it's the logi suit then no that thing folds over like paper.
Stevez Wingyip Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 18	Posted - 2014.12.03 00:35:00 - [48] - Quote Nothing Certain wrote: Stevez Wingyip wrote: Stevez Wingyip wrote: Juno Tristan wrote: Squad up (either squad finder in the neocom tab or by joining a random squad once deployed) You'll probably hear this a lot but its the best way to avoid getting stomped as a new player. Don't forget it's not just the proto gear, older players will also know the maps, the guns, the different suits strengths and weaknesses. It all adds up to a sizable advantage which will take time to overcome. I know every map and fit off by heart. I know when to back off and when to fight but there are little to know fights I can take and the fights I am forced to fight I still NEARLY get them. I have played this game since beta but have made a new character by the way. That kind of changes everything. You now know how new players feel and how the new players you stomped in the Academy felt. You should know by now that this is just the way the game is, new players are screwed. This is my main point.
Stevez Wingyip Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 18	Posted - 2014.12.03 00:38:00 - [49] - Quote Quote: If that's the assault one then yes definitely, it's really good for an infinite use suit. If it's the logi suit then no that thing folds over like paper. Yes, it is the assault.
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 637	Posted - 2014.12.03 00:42:00 - [50] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: Quote: If that's the assault one then yes definitely, it's really good for an infinite use suit. If it's the logi suit then no that thing folds over like paper. Yes, it is the assault. That one's really good then when it comes to Standard level assaults you really can't do much better than the minmitar. Speed and good shield regen has the biggest impact at standard level versus armor and armor rep. Even better that it's like a standard fitted suit with proto slots.

Sir Dukey Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 1226	Posted - 2014.12.03 01:32:00 - [51] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: Okay so I am currently running the Frontline starter fit. I have about 600 of them now. The AUR ones with the combat rifle for Minmatar. I just got my core skills to 5 and that's that. I am SO sick and tired of getting killed by Proto this and proto that. Mainly Breaches and HMGs. I ALMOST ALWAYS get them down to about 50 armour in my starter fit. And I know if I had equal gear, I would be destroying these people. It's so dis satisfying when you get killed to someone that is more SP than you in an FPS. I literally am losing my patience and I don't want to quit but it sucks because my KDA has dropped so much this last week since I got out of the academy where people are equal geared. I had about a 6.15 KDR which has not dropped to 1.6 and dropping still fast. Which is ruining my chances of ever getting into a PC corp. I have no idea what to do and even getting to an advanced level suit and modules takes so long. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am considering buying the APEX Nomad suit tomorrow which hopefully will help even just a little. But I just don't know what to do. So many new players quit because of this reason but there must be something I can do to compete on a fair level. Squad with me on my other account and come along for a joy ride in my tank. Chocolate Juice
Michael Arck 6067	Posted - 2014.12.03 01:43:00 - [52] - Quote when all else fails, just take a little break. Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
Michael Arck 6067	Posted - 2014.12.03 01:47:00 - [53] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: Nothing Certain wrote: Stevez Wingyip wrote: Stevez Wingyip wrote: Juno Tristan wrote: Squad up (either squad finder in the neocom tab or by joining a random squad once deployed) You'll probably hear this a lot but its the best way to avoid getting stomped as a new player. Don't forget it's not just the proto gear, older players will also know the maps, the guns, the different suits strengths and weaknesses. It all adds up to a sizable advantage which will take time to overcome. I know every map and fit off by heart. I know when to back off and when to fight but there are little to know fights I can take and the fights I am forced to fight I still NEARLY get them. I have played this game since beta but have made a new character by the way. That kind of changes everything. You now know how new players feel and how the new players you stomped in the Academy felt. You should know by now that this is just the way the game is, new players are screwed. This is my main point. wait a minute, you made this thread and you character...to make a point? Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
Stevez Wingyip Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 18	Posted - 2014.12.03 02:01:00 - [54] - Quote Nono, I deleted my main a while ago because I could not stand the quarters and wanted to start again. GMs were unable to change it and I could not stnad being Minmatar in an Amarr quarters anymore. However, I was so used to having all the passive SP that I did not realise how hard new players had it. It's such a massive disadvantage. I am playing the NPE as a vet and it's a nightmare. Thankfully I have the will to keep going but just about haha
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 6304	Posted - 2014.12.03 02:07:00 - [55] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: Nono, I deleted my main a while ago because I could not stand the quarters and wanted to start again. GMs were unable to change it and I could not stnad being Minmatar in an Amarr quarters anymore. However, I was so used to having all the passive SP that I did not realise how hard new players had it. It's such a massive disadvantage. I am playing the NPE as a vet and it's a nightmare. Thankfully I have the will to keep going but just about haha You hated your quarters that bad? How much SP did you give up for new quarters? Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 637	Posted - 2014.12.03 02:28:00 - [56] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Stevez Wingyip wrote: Nono, I deleted my main a while ago because I could not stand the quarters and wanted to start again. GMs were unable to change it and I could not stnad being Minmatar in an Amarr quarters anymore. However, I was so used to having all the passive SP that I did not realise how hard new players had it. It's such a massive disadvantage. I am playing the NPE as a vet and it's a nightmare. Thankfully I have the will to keep going but just about haha You hated your quarters that bad? How much SP did you give up for new quarters? I mean ****... of the 3 i've seen (Never have I been Amarr main though I'll probably make one just to see) I like the minmitar the least lol. As far as I've seen its a tie between Caldari and Gallente. Gallente for cozyness and Caldari for spaciousness. Minmitar just looks cramped and uncomfortable. No way in hell am I burning my millions of sp over that though. Not that it really matters I'm usually lost in Menus and don't even notice much my Walking in Stations.
Stevez Wingyip Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 18	Posted - 2014.12.03 03:24:00 - [57] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Stevez Wingyip wrote: Nono, I deleted my main a while ago because I could not stand the quarters and wanted to start again. GMs were unable to change it and I could not stnad being Minmatar in an Amarr quarters anymore. However, I was so used to having all the passive SP that I did not realise how hard new players had it. It's such a massive disadvantage. I am playing the NPE as a vet and it's a nightmare. Thankfully I have the will to keep going but just about haha You hated your quarters that bad? How much SP did you give up for new quarters? I mean ****... of the 3 i've seen (Never have I been Amarr main though I'll probably make one just to see) I like the minmitar the least lol. As far as I've seen its a tie between Caldari and Gallente. Gallente for cozyness and Caldari for spaciousness. Minmitar just looks cramped and uncomfortable. No way in hell am I burning my millions of sp over that though. Not that it really matters I'm usually lost in Menus and don't even notice much my Walking in Stations. I am minmatar in the quarters of the race hat enslaved me.
Stevez Wingyip Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 18	Posted - 2014.12.03 03:26:00 - [58] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Stevez Wingyip wrote: Nono, I deleted my main a while ago because I could not stand the quarters and wanted to start again. GMs were unable to change it and I could not stnad being Minmatar in an Amarr quarters anymore. However, I was so used to having all the passive SP that I did not realise how hard new players had it. It's such a massive disadvantage. I am playing the NPE as a vet and it's a nightmare. Thankfully I have the will to keep going but just about haha You hated your quarters that bad? How much SP did you give up for new quarters? About 90M. I don't mind, I got the same name again anyway :) I still have a 14M sp alt I can play though.
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 637	Posted - 2014.12.03 03:29:00 - [59] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Stevez Wingyip wrote: Nono, I deleted my main a while ago because I could not stand the quarters and wanted to start again. GMs were unable to change it and I could not stnad being Minmatar in an Amarr quarters anymore. However, I was so used to having all the passive SP that I did not realise how hard new players had it. It's such a massive disadvantage. I am playing the NPE as a vet and it's a nightmare. Thankfully I have the will to keep going but just about haha You hated your quarters that bad? How much SP did you give up for new quarters? About 90M. I don't mind, I got the same name again anyway :) I still have a 14M sp alt I can play though. You are insane if that's true... why are you still playing this?! BE FREE!!! By the time you reach 90m again this game will be buried...
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 15370	Posted - 2014.12.03 03:32:00 - [60] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Stevez Wingyip wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Stevez Wingyip wrote: Nono, I deleted my main a while ago because I could not stand the quarters and wanted to start again. GMs were unable to change it and I could not stnad being Minmatar in an Amarr quarters anymore. However, I was so used to having all the passive SP that I did not realise how hard new players had it. It's such a massive disadvantage. I am playing the NPE as a vet and it's a nightmare. Thankfully I have the will to keep going but just about haha You hated your quarters that bad? How much SP did you give up for new quarters? About 90M. I don't mind, I got the same name again anyway :) I still have a 14M sp alt I can play though. You are insane if that's true... why are you still playing this?! BE FREE!!! By the time you reach 90m again this game will be buried... ironically if he had just waited a couple of months he could have kept that 90M SP and gotten moved for freesies! I said, "Empress, I do this, I thought that you knew this. Can't stand non-believers and honest, the truth is...

The Master Race Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 425	Posted - 2014.12.03 03:44:00 - [61] - Quote While the training grounds do not compare to the actually player base the proto gap is a huge one when it comes to suits(+TTD) and some weapons(-TTK) anyone that tells you 15% damage from proff is not big is someone that is delusional about there own "skill". The balance is horrid in this game so if you are worried about k/d play sg scout, RL sniper, strife scout, or sentinel and really you will have a lot more fun with the game preying on those nonconformist lol. http://southpark.cc.com/clips/154322/non-conformist-coffee http://southpark.cc.com/clips/154323/a-beautiful-sadness 21 day fast 12/1/14 Life-$
Blueprint For Murder Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 425	Posted - 2014.12.03 03:44:00 - [62] - Quote While the training grounds do not compare to the actually player base the proto gap is a huge one when it comes to suits(+TTD) and some weapons(-TTK) anyone that tells you 15% damage from proff is not big is someone that is delusional about there own "skill". The balance is horrid in this game so if you are worried about k/d play sg scout, RL sniper, strife scout, or sentinel and really you will have a lot more fun with the game preying on those nonconformist lol. http://southpark.cc.com/clips/154322/non-conformist-coffee http://southpark.cc.com/clips/154323/a-beautiful-sadness 21 day fast 12/1/14 Life-$
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution 1216	Posted - 2014.12.03 03:51:00 - [63] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: Most corps that I have checked require a 1.5 KDR or higher as a minimum entry requirement. :( I want to be able to get into a good corp and play with the same team often in the long run. KDR is just a stress element that makes me afraid to fight. You're looking at the wrong corps then. More like Titans of Penis amirite? Come play a better game.
Stevez Wingyip Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 18	Posted - 2014.12.03 03:53:00 - [64] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Stevez Wingyip wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Stevez Wingyip wrote: Nono, I deleted my main a while ago because I could not stand the quarters and wanted to start again. GMs were unable to change it and I could not stnad being Minmatar in an Amarr quarters anymore. However, I was so used to having all the passive SP that I did not realise how hard new players had it. It's such a massive disadvantage. I am playing the NPE as a vet and it's a nightmare. Thankfully I have the will to keep going but just about haha You hated your quarters that bad? How much SP did you give up for new quarters? About 90M. I don't mind, I got the same name again anyway :) I still have a 14M sp alt I can play though. You are insane if that's true... why are you still playing this?! BE FREE!!! By the time you reach 90m again this game will be buried... I don't mind honestly. I would not have done it if losing the SP would have bothered me. However, I just can't wait to get out of the non passive SP pit.
TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet 64	Posted - 2014.12.03 03:55:00 - [65] - Quote Stevez Wingyip wrote: Okay so I am currently running the Frontline starter fit. I have about 600 of them now. The AUR ones with the combat rifle for Minmatar. I just got my core skills to 5 and that's that. I am SO sick and tired of getting killed by Proto this and proto that. Mainly Breaches and HMGs. I ALMOST ALWAYS get them down to about 50 armour in my starter fit. And I know if I had equal gear, I would be destroying these people. It's so dis satisfying when you get killed to someone that is more SP than you in an FPS. I literally am losing my patience and I don't want to quit but it sucks because my KDA has dropped so much this last week since I got out of the academy where people are equal geared. I had about a 6.15 KDR which has not dropped to 1.6 and dropping still fast. Which is ruining my chances of ever getting into a PC corp. I have no idea what to do and even getting to an advanced level suit and modules takes so long. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am considering buying the APEX Nomad suit tomorrow which hopefully will help even just a little. But I just don't know what to do. So many new players quit because of this reason but there must be something I can do to compete on a fair level. Save your money, eventually play enough Factional to get the BPO suits. Like others have said squad up. You'll stand better odds. I don't worry about my KDR but I either tank or Logi.
Blueprint For Murder Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 425	Posted - 2014.12.03 04:00:00 - [66] - Quote I pretty much always choose up gear, I started with mk com AV when it was strong and then went SG scout and just ruined people, but easy kills are not much fun. I picked up an ion pistol when it was considered super UP and loved being the only guy on the kill feed with it and ever since have been chasing that dragon lol. The balance has changed and I still play mostly side arms scout, but of course most sidearms are not the I win button that the shotgun is so I have good and bad matches. I often think about hitting up easy mode, but the value of a challenge far exceeds empty praise of fellow gamers. 21 day fast 12/1/14 Life-$


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