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Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
1200
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Posted - 2014.12.01 01:39:00 -
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I am not talking about where you went 30-0 playing militia starter fits, I'm talking about a tough match where there was proto AV (swarms) and you managed to survive and still do something other than just flying around in the redline scared to come out.
I personally have no luck, when ever I pull an ADS everyone flocks to supply depot and often get killed because WTF swarms still curving around buildings ECT.
Swarms have to counter IMO, once locked on and fired it is extremely hard to avoid them. Stress of extremely.
P.S. Me and my friend fit an ADS with 2 XT-1 turrets and we got two shotted by a redline railgun, then called in tank to destroy turret and called in ADS again and got blown up by one player with STD swarms. (we hit AB right when we herd the swarm go off but they caught up and destroyed us. I definitely have no luck.
I'm not gonna say swarms are OP because I know i'm about to have tomatoes thrown at me if I did.
Chocolate Juice
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
2014
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Posted - 2014.12.01 01:56:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:I am not talking about where you went 30-0 playing militia starter fits, I'm talking about a tough match where there was proto AV (swarms) and you managed to survive and still do something other than just flying around in the redline scared to come out.
I personally have no luck, when ever I pull an ADS everyone flocks to supply depot and often get killed because WTF swarms still curving around buildings ECT.
Swarms have to counter IMO, once locked on and fired it is extremely hard to avoid them. Stress of extremely.
P.S. Me and my friend fit an ADS with 2 XT-1 turrets and we got two shotted by a redline railgun, then called in tank to destroy turret and called in ADS again and got blown up by one player with STD swarms. (we hit AB right when we herd the swarm go off but they caught up and destroyed us. I definitely have no luck.
I'm not gonna say swarms are OP because I know i'm about to have tomatoes thrown at me if I did. all the good ADS pilots still do great in PC. its the bad pilots that are the ones that suffer now.
KEQ diplomat/ lolromansboat cost more then your whole village
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Jynx'D
Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback
230
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Posted - 2014.12.01 01:58:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:I am not talking about where you went 30-0 playing militia starter fits, I'm talking about a tough match where there was proto AV (swarms) and you managed to survive and still do something other than just flying around in the redline scared to come out.
I personally have no luck, when ever I pull an ADS everyone flocks to supply depot and often get killed because WTF swarms still curving around buildings ECT.
Swarms have to counter IMO, once locked on and fired it is extremely hard to avoid them. Stress of extremely.
P.S. Me and my friend fit an ADS with 2 XT-1 turrets and we got two shotted by a redline railgun, then called in tank to destroy turret and called in ADS again and got blown up by one player with STD swarms. (we hit AB right when we herd the swarm go off but they caught up and destroyed us. I definitely have no luck.
I'm not gonna say swarms are OP because I know i'm about to have tomatoes thrown at me if I did. all the good ADS pilots still do great in PC. its the bad pilots that are the ones that suffer now. ^ Good ADS pilots are still a must for PC - it's not so easy in Pubs since AV won't get gunned down instantly - but in a PC match ADS can be deciding factors and pulling troops to AV to deal with them can be painful.
You guys have a role - you're just not pub stompers anymore. |
Dust User
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1139
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Posted - 2014.12.01 02:05:00 -
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Lions-Fan
Apocalyptic Destroyer
Vooblylol
Parthok
Pro Tanker
White-Lion
I would say Derrith but I haven't seen him in awhile.
So, pretty much the same list as before.
All the swarm buff did was widen the gap between the good pilots and the bad ones.
PS: AB is so 1.8. |
Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
1200
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Posted - 2014.12.01 02:15:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:I am not talking about where you went 30-0 playing militia starter fits, I'm talking about a tough match where there was proto AV (swarms) and you managed to survive and still do something other than just flying around in the redline scared to come out.
I personally have no luck, when ever I pull an ADS everyone flocks to supply depot and often get killed because WTF swarms still curving around buildings ECT.
Swarms have to counter IMO, once locked on and fired it is extremely hard to avoid them. Stress of extremely.
P.S. Me and my friend fit an ADS with 2 XT-1 turrets and we got two shotted by a redline railgun, then called in tank to destroy turret and called in ADS again and got blown up by one player with STD swarms. (we hit AB right when we herd the swarm go off but they caught up and destroyed us. I definitely have no luck.
I'm not gonna say swarms are OP because I know i'm about to have tomatoes thrown at me if I did. all the good ADS pilots still do great in PC. its the bad pilots that are the ones that suffer now.
PC everyone uses forge so it is a bit easier than when everyone uses swarms like in pubs. Also-pilots in PC lose about 2-3 ships in which you can still make a profit but In pubs you can't afford to lose one if you want to profit.
Swarms>FG.
Chocolate Juice
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Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
1200
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Posted - 2014.12.01 02:19:00 -
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Dust User wrote:Lions-Fan
Apocalyptic Destroyer
Vooblylol
Parthok
Pro Tanker
White-Lion
I would say Derrith but I haven't seen him in awhile.
So, pretty much the same list as before.
All the swarm buff did was widen the gap between the good pilots and the bad ones.
PS: AB is so 1.8.
AB is 1.8, death is 1.9?
Chocolate Juice
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Dust User
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1139
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Posted - 2014.12.01 02:23:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:Dust User wrote:Lions-Fan
Apocalyptic Destroyer
Vooblylol
Parthok
Pro Tanker
White-Lion
I would say Derrith but I haven't seen him in awhile.
So, pretty much the same list as before.
All the swarm buff did was widen the gap between the good pilots and the bad ones.
PS: AB is so 1.8. AB is 1.8, death is 1.9?
Booster and a hardener. Tank until reload then move in for the kill. |
Blueprint For Murder
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
412
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Posted - 2014.12.01 02:23:00 -
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All you have to do it get a buddy to gun for you and drop in at the AV target to kill. It isn't something you can expect pubs to do though if you kill him 1-2 times he won't even come after you again. Though he may try to ram you with a ds.
21 day fast 11/28/14 Life-$
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The Master Race
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
412
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Posted - 2014.12.01 02:23:00 -
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All you have to do it get a buddy to gun for you and drop in at the AV target to kill. It isn't something you can expect pubs to do though if you kill him 1-2 times he won't even come after you again. Though he may try to ram you with a ds.
21 day fast 11/28/14 Life-$
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
8368
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Posted - 2014.12.01 02:28:00 -
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Dust User wrote:Lions-Fan
Apocalyptic Destroyer
Vooblylol
Parthok
Pro Tanker
White-Lion
I would say Derrith but I haven't seen him in awhile.
So, pretty much the same list as before.
All the swarm buff did was widen the gap between the good pilots and the bad ones.
PS: AB is so 1.8.
Derriths PS3 is fried I heard. I miss the dude
Bullet Hell and Duct-Tape? Count me in!
FA recruits get free officer BPO's. Enlist today. Must be a scrub to enter.
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Dust User
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1140
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Posted - 2014.12.01 02:36:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Dust User wrote:Lions-Fan
Apocalyptic Destroyer
Vooblylol
Parthok
Pro Tanker
White-Lion
I would say Derrith but I haven't seen him in awhile.
So, pretty much the same list as before.
All the swarm buff did was widen the gap between the good pilots and the bad ones.
PS: AB is so 1.8. Derriths PS3 is fried I heard. I miss the dude
Must have overheated due to all them Panty Droppers streaming through it. |
Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
8375
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Posted - 2014.12.01 02:38:00 -
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Dust User wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Dust User wrote:Lions-Fan
Apocalyptic Destroyer
Vooblylol
Parthok
Pro Tanker
White-Lion
I would say Derrith but I haven't seen him in awhile.
So, pretty much the same list as before.
All the swarm buff did was widen the gap between the good pilots and the bad ones.
PS: AB is so 1.8. Derriths PS3 is fried I heard. I miss the dude Must have overheated due to all them Panty Droppers streaming through it.
Take all of my likes
Bullet Hell and Duct-Tape? Count me in!
FA recruits get free officer BPO's. Enlist today. Must be a scrub to enter.
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Lloyd Orfay
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
241
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Posted - 2014.12.01 02:50:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:I am not talking about where you went 30-0 playing militia starter fits, I'm talking about a tough match where there was proto AV (swarms) and you managed to survive and still do something other than just flying around in the redline scared to come out.
I personally have no luck, when ever I pull an ADS everyone flocks to supply depot and often get killed because WTF swarms still curving around buildings ECT.
Swarms have to counter IMO, once locked on and fired it is extremely hard to avoid them. Stress of extremely.
P.S. Me and my friend fit an ADS with 2 XT-1 turrets and we got two shotted by a redline railgun, then called in tank to destroy turret and called in ADS again and got blown up by one player with STD swarms. (we hit AB right when we herd the swarm go off but they caught up and destroyed us. I definitely have no luck.
I'm not gonna say swarms are OP because I know i'm about to have tomatoes thrown at me if I did. all the good ADS pilots still do great in PC. its the bad pilots that are the ones that suffer now.
This "if you don't do well with vehicles it automatically means you just suck" mentality is such a trademark of being dense.
How is it possible for people to forget that so many of DUST's features are tiered, that any playing that is longest playing/highest paying will always have an advantage over others?
Where regardless any skill tree requires heavy amounts of grinding, but people who've been here since quite a while have nothing to worry? Where heavy booster buyers don't have to worry?
Where everything gets better the higher the level, when it should be getting better and worse? (e.g. Ridiculously powerful rail guns at proto that don't get anything to balance them, like far more heat buildup than the lower tier versions)
Where nearly every type of skill in the tree has a bonus attached to it, so if someone were to have at least one level above you, you'd lose then and there?
Where, in this game, you need prototype things, or at least level five skills and advanced gear just for basic survival needs? Where as long as anything is not the above statement it's far below basic survival or performance requirements.
Flying a dropship is easy, albeit the wonky physics, though no one is going to survive against swarms when the fact that for shield based dropships there's some horrible crutches. You have a huge and nearly unchangeable shield recharge delay that you have no modules meant to improve it because they were removed. The only way to have better regen and try to improve the delay is a shield booster, in which if you don't have prototype or so, will make you wait quite a while in the battle field because you desperately need it to survive. If you used armour based dropships you have some way of exploiting the armour regeneration, yet the wide majority of things can kill you far faster than the shield based ones. You have tanks that can 2 hit you with rails, missile turrets that can barrage you quite easily, people who bring swarms out first thing to farm WP off of your vehicle, forgegunners, and sometimes bold plasma cannon users who spent quite a bit making their plasma cannons be able to 1-2 hit most vehicles. Without basic suvival needs(keyword: PROTO/Advanced stuff jacked up on level five bonuses) you of course will die. Grow some observation skills on this game's state people.
My Isk payout gets lower and lower the more I play, even though I'm getting better. Smells like success.
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Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
1202
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Posted - 2014.12.01 03:20:00 -
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Blueprint For Murder wrote:All you have to do it get a buddy to gun for you and drop in at the AV target to kill. It isn't something you can expect pubs to do though if you kill him 1-2 times he won't even come after you again. Though he may try to ram you with a ds.
That is a huge problem, you litterally have to throw your defensive capabilities down the drain just to put on one turret.
Chocolate Juice
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Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
1202
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Posted - 2014.12.01 03:22:00 -
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Lloyd Orfay wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:I am not talking about where you went 30-0 playing militia starter fits, I'm talking about a tough match where there was proto AV (swarms) and you managed to survive and still do something other than just flying around in the redline scared to come out.
I personally have no luck, when ever I pull an ADS everyone flocks to supply depot and often get killed because WTF swarms still curving around buildings ECT.
Swarms have to counter IMO, once locked on and fired it is extremely hard to avoid them. Stress of extremely.
P.S. Me and my friend fit an ADS with 2 XT-1 turrets and we got two shotted by a redline railgun, then called in tank to destroy turret and called in ADS again and got blown up by one player with STD swarms. (we hit AB right when we herd the swarm go off but they caught up and destroyed us. I definitely have no luck.
I'm not gonna say swarms are OP because I know i'm about to have tomatoes thrown at me if I did. all the good ADS pilots still do great in PC. its the bad pilots that are the ones that suffer now. This "if you don't do well with vehicles it automatically means you just suck" mentality is such a trademark of being dense.How is it possible for people to forget that so many of DUST's features are tiered, that any playing that is longest playing/highest paying will always have an advantage over others? Where regardless any skill tree requires heavy amounts of grinding, but people who've been here since quite a while have nothing to worry? Where heavy booster buyers don't have to worry? Where everything gets better the higher the level, when it should be getting better and worse? (e.g. Ridiculously powerful rail guns at proto that don't get anything to balance them, like far more heat buildup than the lower tier versions) Where nearly every type of skill in the tree has a bonus attached to it, so if someone were to have at least one level above you, you'd lose then and there? Where, in this game, you need prototype things, or at least level five skills and advanced gear just for basic survival needs? Where as long as anything is not the above statement it's far below basic survival or performance requirements. Flying a dropship is easy, albeit the wonky physics, though no one is going to survive against swarms when the fact that for shield based dropships there's some horrible crutches. You have a huge and nearly unchangeable shield recharge delay that you have no modules meant to improve it because they were removed. The only way to have better regen and try to improve the delay is a shield booster, in which if you don't have prototype or so, will make you wait quite a while in the battle field because you desperately need it to survive. If you used armour based dropships you have some way of exploiting the armour regeneration, yet the wide majority of things can kill you far faster than the shield based ones. You have tanks that can 2 hit you with rails, missile turrets that can barrage you quite easily, people who bring swarms out first thing to farm WP off of your vehicle, forgegunners, and sometimes bold plasma cannon users who spent quite a bit making their plasma cannons be able to 1-2 hit most vehicles. Without basic suvival needs(keyword: PROTO/Advanced stuff jacked up on level five bonuses) you of course will die. Grow some observation skills on this game's state people.
Can I offer you a massage and have a signature, you and Dust Fiend have the highest IQ on the forums.
Chocolate Juice
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Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
1202
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Posted - 2014.12.01 03:27:00 -
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Lloyd Orfay wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:I am not talking about where you went 30-0 playing militia starter fits, I'm talking about a tough match where there was proto AV (swarms) and you managed to survive and still do something other than just flying around in the redline scared to come out.
I personally have no luck, when ever I pull an ADS everyone flocks to supply depot and often get killed because WTF swarms still curving around buildings ECT.
Swarms have to counter IMO, once locked on and fired it is extremely hard to avoid them. Stress of extremely.
P.S. Me and my friend fit an ADS with 2 XT-1 turrets and we got two shotted by a redline railgun, then called in tank to destroy turret and called in ADS again and got blown up by one player with STD swarms. (we hit AB right when we herd the swarm go off but they caught up and destroyed us. I definitely have no luck.
I'm not gonna say swarms are OP because I know i'm about to have tomatoes thrown at me if I did. all the good ADS pilots still do great in PC. its the bad pilots that are the ones that suffer now. This "if you don't do well with vehicles it automatically means you just suck" mentality is such a trademark of being dense.How is it possible for people to forget that so many of DUST's features are tiered, that any playing that is longest playing/highest paying will always have an advantage over others? Where regardless any skill tree requires heavy amounts of grinding, but people who've been here since quite a while have nothing to worry? Where heavy booster buyers don't have to worry? Where everything gets better the higher the level, when it should be getting better and worse? (e.g. Ridiculously powerful rail guns at proto that don't get anything to balance them, like far more heat buildup than the lower tier versions) Where nearly every type of skill in the tree has a bonus attached to it, so if someone were to have at least one level above you, you'd lose then and there? Where, in this game, you need prototype things, or at least level five skills and advanced gear just for basic survival needs? Where as long as anything is not the above statement it's far below basic survival or performance requirements. Flying a dropship is easy, albeit the wonky physics, though no one is going to survive against swarms when the fact that for shield based dropships there's some horrible crutches. You have a huge and nearly unchangeable shield recharge delay that you have no modules meant to improve it because they were removed. The only way to have better regen and try to improve the delay is a shield booster, in which if you don't have prototype or so, will make you wait quite a while in the battle field because you desperately need it to survive. If you used armour based dropships you have some way of exploiting the armour regeneration, yet the wide majority of things can kill you far faster than the shield based ones. You have tanks that can 2 hit you with rails, missile turrets that can barrage you quite easily, people who bring swarms out first thing to farm WP off of your vehicle, forgegunners, and sometimes bold plasma cannon users who spent quite a bit making their plasma cannons be able to 1-2 hit most vehicles. Without basic suvival needs(keyword: PROTO/Advanced stuff jacked up on level five bonuses) you of course will die. Grow some observation skills on this game's state people.
True, if you put basic modules on an ADS, your fit is as weak and hopeless as a starter fit in front of boundless HMG. It takes like 700k sp to get proto swarm launcher and you will rule the field but with ADS, you have to put in close to 10-15 million sp to have a decent fit. Also, the ADS costs 375k isk (a good fit) comapred to a (47k isk swarm) Also- I didn't add in the price of AV suit because you can put a wiki swarm on a starter fit and still have no trouble taking down ADS'S and tanks.
Chocolate Juice
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Dergle
Fatal Absolution
55
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Posted - 2014.12.01 04:13:00 -
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Me.
Dipped in Sauce
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Riptalis
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
107
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Posted - 2014.12.01 05:11:00 -
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I haven't been able to progressively advance since the changes. I have to always fly away as fast as I can in order to survive which pretty much sums up my role: good at running... :(
I haven't been rammed in a while so that's good :)
Python pilot
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
6244
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Posted - 2014.12.01 05:20:00 -
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I just barely spec'd into the ADS a few weeks ago. It's no walk in the park but i still run it in pubs and have fun...
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Tesfa Alem
Death by Disassociation
470
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Posted - 2014.12.01 05:26:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 [/quote wrote: all the good ADS pilots still do great in PC. its the bad pilots that are the ones that suffer now.
^^^ Really PC Scrubby Pilot talk right here.
"I have 16 teamates on coms running all proto killing all 2 AV in the area becuz in pc nearly the entire team runs scouts, heavies and logis"
Winning Air to Groud fights or Air to Air in pubs when you're redlined, fighting against packs of AV roaming the battlefield thats hard mode. Attacking packs of troops who are too busy being shotgunned of officer ganked to look at you, easy as pie.
Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
2020
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Posted - 2014.12.01 05:38:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:I am not talking about where you went 30-0 playing militia starter fits, I'm talking about a tough match where there was proto AV (swarms) and you managed to survive and still do something other than just flying around in the redline scared to come out.
I personally have no luck, when ever I pull an ADS everyone flocks to supply depot and often get killed because WTF swarms still curving around buildings ECT.
Swarms have to counter IMO, once locked on and fired it is extremely hard to avoid them. Stress of extremely.
P.S. Me and my friend fit an ADS with 2 XT-1 turrets and we got two shotted by a redline railgun, then called in tank to destroy turret and called in ADS again and got blown up by one player with STD swarms. (we hit AB right when we herd the swarm go off but they caught up and destroyed us. I definitely have no luck.
I'm not gonna say swarms are OP because I know i'm about to have tomatoes thrown at me if I did. all the good ADS pilots still do great in PC. its the bad pilots that are the ones that suffer now. PC everyone uses forge so it is a bit easier than when everyone uses swarms like in pubs. Also-pilots in PC lose about 2-3 ships in which you can still make a profit but In pubs you can't afford to lose one if you want to profit. Swarms>FG. if you don't have isk then maybe ADS might not be for you. try a BPO scout.
KEQ diplomat/ lolromansboat cost more then your whole village
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
8385
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Posted - 2014.12.01 05:48:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:I am not talking about where you went 30-0 playing militia starter fits, I'm talking about a tough match where there was proto AV (swarms) and you managed to survive and still do something other than just flying around in the redline scared to come out.
I personally have no luck, when ever I pull an ADS everyone flocks to supply depot and often get killed because WTF swarms still curving around buildings ECT.
Swarms have to counter IMO, once locked on and fired it is extremely hard to avoid them. Stress of extremely.
P.S. Me and my friend fit an ADS with 2 XT-1 turrets and we got two shotted by a redline railgun, then called in tank to destroy turret and called in ADS again and got blown up by one player with STD swarms. (we hit AB right when we herd the swarm go off but they caught up and destroyed us. I definitely have no luck.
I'm not gonna say swarms are OP because I know i'm about to have tomatoes thrown at me if I did. all the good ADS pilots still do great in PC. its the bad pilots that are the ones that suffer now. PC everyone uses forge so it is a bit easier than when everyone uses swarms like in pubs. Also-pilots in PC lose about 2-3 ships in which you can still make a profit but In pubs you can't afford to lose one if you want to profit. Swarms>FG. if you don't have isk then maybe ADS might not be for you. try a BPO scout.
Yeah, but ISK shouldn't be a barrier in this game for a role, be it Dropsuit, Vehicle or whatever.
Vehicles should not be a present for those with SP and ISK to spare. They need to be accessible to lower SP and ISK pilot as well, which is almost impossible right now.
That's because the base frame (The ADS itself) is around 200k by itself IIRC.
They need to reduce the price of the base ADS and increase the ISK price of the modules incrementally. This allows lower SP and ISK players to run ships that can crash and learn while not bleeding themselves dry.
Also: It allows tankers/ads pilots to make "Cheap fits" like we infantry do. Let them have their super expensive flying death machines if they want, but also give the lower tiered pilots something to work with.
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Ace Boone
Capital Acquisitions LLC
501
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Posted - 2014.12.01 05:52:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Dust User wrote:Lions-Fan
Apocalyptic Destroyer
Vooblylol
Parthok
Pro Tanker
White-Lion
I would say Derrith but I haven't seen him in awhile.
So, pretty much the same list as before.
All the swarm buff did was widen the gap between the good pilots and the bad ones.
PS: AB is so 1.8. Derriths PS3 is fried I heard. I miss the dude
Isn't Skely inactive too? Who FCs when Zatata isn't on?
Only loyal to the republic.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
6244
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Posted - 2014.12.01 06:12:00 -
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Ace Boone wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Dust User wrote:Lions-Fan
Apocalyptic Destroyer
Vooblylol
Parthok
Pro Tanker
White-Lion
I would say Derrith but I haven't seen him in awhile.
So, pretty much the same list as before.
All the swarm buff did was widen the gap between the good pilots and the bad ones.
PS: AB is so 1.8. Derriths PS3 is fried I heard. I miss the dude Isn't Skely inactive too? Who FCs when Zatata isn't on?
*Shameless advertising*
I'll FC for iskies. ;-)
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance
246
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Posted - 2014.12.01 06:15:00 -
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I scrapped my ADS's when I get my re-spec.
Honestly, I find I'm more effective in a militia ship just letting someone use my gun or being a gunner.
Also, if I see you in an ADS, I'm going to the supply and getting out my officer forge guns, you will die >.>
EDIT: Except for PC battles... A good ADS pilot is essential in a PC if you want to win. In pubs, your flying around a trashcan or a coffin in my opinion.
G.L.O.R.Y Soldier,
I'm that Amarr heavy you warn your team about <3
-Heavy/Logi/Assault/Scout-
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
2020
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Posted - 2014.12.01 06:16:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:I am not talking about where you went 30-0 playing militia starter fits, I'm talking about a tough match where there was proto AV (swarms) and you managed to survive and still do something other than just flying around in the redline scared to come out.
I personally have no luck, when ever I pull an ADS everyone flocks to supply depot and often get killed because WTF swarms still curving around buildings ECT.
Swarms have to counter IMO, once locked on and fired it is extremely hard to avoid them. Stress of extremely.
P.S. Me and my friend fit an ADS with 2 XT-1 turrets and we got two shotted by a redline railgun, then called in tank to destroy turret and called in ADS again and got blown up by one player with STD swarms. (we hit AB right when we herd the swarm go off but they caught up and destroyed us. I definitely have no luck.
I'm not gonna say swarms are OP because I know i'm about to have tomatoes thrown at me if I did. all the good ADS pilots still do great in PC. its the bad pilots that are the ones that suffer now. PC everyone uses forge so it is a bit easier than when everyone uses swarms like in pubs. Also-pilots in PC lose about 2-3 ships in which you can still make a profit but In pubs you can't afford to lose one if you want to profit. Swarms>FG. if you don't have isk then maybe ADS might not be for you. try a BPO scout. Yeah, but ISK shouldn't be a barrier in this game for a role, be it Dropsuit, Vehicle or whatever. Vehicles should not be a present for those with SP and ISK to spare. They need to be accessible to lower SP and ISK pilot as well, which is almost impossible right now. That's because the base frame (The ADS itself) is around 200k by itself IIRC. They need to reduce the price of the base ADS and increase the ISK price of the modules incrementally. This allows lower SP and ISK players to run ships that can crash and learn while not bleeding themselves dry. Also: It allows tankers/ads pilots to make "Cheap fits" like we infantry do. Let them have their super expensive flying death machines if they want, but also give the lower tiered pilots something to work with. so why don't CCP add a mlt ADS to the market and have it cost 100k isk. there is mlt tanks why not mlt ADS to let some of these guys who complain about AV learn how to fly.
KEQ diplomat/ lolromansboat cost more then your whole village
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
8385
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Posted - 2014.12.01 06:18:00 -
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Ace Boone wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Dust User wrote:Lions-Fan
Apocalyptic Destroyer
Vooblylol
Parthok
Pro Tanker
White-Lion
I would say Derrith but I haven't seen him in awhile.
So, pretty much the same list as before.
All the swarm buff did was widen the gap between the good pilots and the bad ones.
PS: AB is so 1.8. Derriths PS3 is fried I heard. I miss the dude Isn't Skely inactive too? Who FCs when Zatata isn't on?
Not sure. Probably Devin or Lags. I haven't been on lately, been studying for finals.
I FC'd a few matches when nobody was on. That was fun. Now I will never FC again, so I can keep my 100% win record.
Bullet Hell and Duct-Tape? Count me in!
FA recruits get free officer BPO's. Enlist today. Must be a scrub to enter.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
8385
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Posted - 2014.12.01 06:18:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:
Yeah, but ISK shouldn't be a barrier in this game for a role, be it Dropsuit, Vehicle or whatever.
Vehicles should not be a present for those with SP and ISK to spare. They need to be accessible to lower SP and ISK pilot as well, which is almost impossible right now.
That's because the base frame (The ADS itself) is around 200k by itself IIRC.
They need to reduce the price of the base ADS and increase the ISK price of the modules incrementally. This allows lower SP and ISK players to run ships that can crash and learn while not bleeding themselves dry.
Also: It allows tankers/ads pilots to make "Cheap fits" like we infantry do. Let them have their super expensive flying death machines if they want, but also give the lower tiered pilots something to work with.
so why don't CCP add a mlt ADS to the market and have it cost 100k isk. there is mlt tanks why not mlt ADS to let some of these guys who complain about AV learn how to fly.
Why are you asking me?
Bullet Hell and Duct-Tape? Count me in!
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SgtMajSquish MLBJ
Consolidated Dust
227
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Posted - 2014.12.01 06:27:00 -
[29] - Quote
I have no aim when it comes to the ADS so i use a Grimnes tanked out the waazoo with a CRU. Plus squishing people with a DS is the second-most satisfying kill I can get. The most is launching an LAV of a building and having it crush an unsuspecting victim.
PS: I really miss the Logistics DSs
Pffft....... Proto Suits lol
Adv Omni Merc is the way to go
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1328
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Posted - 2014.12.01 06:34:00 -
[30] - Quote
ADS prices should come way down, at least as an option. This helps both pilots and AV, so it should be a no-brainer.
Because, that's why.
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DUST Fiend
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
15310
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Posted - 2014.12.01 06:35:00 -
[31] - Quote
Ill be doing a lot more field testing when my ps3 comes home, but pubs are generally a lot harder than PCs.
Why?
Because in PC, most focus is on infantry holding points, with just a few dedicated AV entrenched in key points, and you have a whole team on comms to help kill or surpress them. In pubs, its a total crap shoot, and you could easily have 5 to 7 advanced to proto AV scattered around the map, with some of them even being in squads.
Generally speaking, if going against skilled, proto AV, Python is your only option. Incubus is no longer an AV specialist, and is hardly even marginally better than Python at AV, yet is leagues worse in terms of survivability.
I also find it funny how people will say of you don't have the ISK, don't fly, yet the same people will happily tell you that ISK shouldn't be a balancing factor. Forum logic 101, hard at work
Flight Academy coming soon(tm) to my YouTube
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
2020
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Posted - 2014.12.01 06:39:00 -
[32] - Quote
Ghost Kaisar wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:
Yeah, but ISK shouldn't be a barrier in this game for a role, be it Dropsuit, Vehicle or whatever.
Vehicles should not be a present for those with SP and ISK to spare. They need to be accessible to lower SP and ISK pilot as well, which is almost impossible right now.
That's because the base frame (The ADS itself) is around 200k by itself IIRC.
They need to reduce the price of the base ADS and increase the ISK price of the modules incrementally. This allows lower SP and ISK players to run ships that can crash and learn while not bleeding themselves dry.
Also: It allows tankers/ads pilots to make "Cheap fits" like we infantry do. Let them have their super expensive flying death machines if they want, but also give the lower tiered pilots something to work with.
so why don't CCP add a mlt ADS to the market and have it cost 100k isk. there is mlt tanks why not mlt ADS to let some of these guys who complain about AV learn how to fly. Why are you asking me? i was under the impression that FA could magically speak directly to CCP about stuff somehow.
KEQ diplomat/ lolromansboat cost more then your whole village
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TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
1379
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Posted - 2014.12.01 07:24:00 -
[33] - Quote
Ghost Kaisar wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:I am not talking about where you went 30-0 playing militia starter fits, I'm talking about a tough match where there was proto AV (swarms) and you managed to survive and still do something other than just flying around in the redline scared to come out.
I personally have no luck, when ever I pull an ADS everyone flocks to supply depot and often get killed because WTF swarms still curving around buildings ECT.
Swarms have to counter IMO, once locked on and fired it is extremely hard to avoid them. Stress of extremely.
P.S. Me and my friend fit an ADS with 2 XT-1 turrets and we got two shotted by a redline railgun, then called in tank to destroy turret and called in ADS again and got blown up by one player with STD swarms. (we hit AB right when we herd the swarm go off but they caught up and destroyed us. I definitely have no luck.
I'm not gonna say swarms are OP because I know i'm about to have tomatoes thrown at me if I did. all the good ADS pilots still do great in PC. its the bad pilots that are the ones that suffer now. PC everyone uses forge so it is a bit easier than when everyone uses swarms like in pubs. Also-pilots in PC lose about 2-3 ships in which you can still make a profit but In pubs you can't afford to lose one if you want to profit. Swarms>FG. if you don't have isk then maybe ADS might not be for you. try a BPO scout. Yeah, but ISK shouldn't be a barrier in this game for a role be it Dropsuit, Vehicle or whatever. Vehicles should not be a present for those with SP and ISK to spare. They need to be accessible to lower SP and ISK pilot as well, which is almost impossible right now. That's because the base frame (The ADS itself) is around 200k by itself IIRC. They need to reduce the price of the base ADS and increase the ISK price of the modules incrementally. This allows lower SP and ISK players to run ships that can crash and learn while not bleeding themselves dry. Also: It allows tankers/ads pilots to make "Cheap fits" like we infantry do. Let them have their super expensive flying death machines if they want, but also give the lower tiered pilots something to work with. they were easy mode and very accessible to low sp in 1.8 and look where that got us... now we have a fuctarded AV weapon they couldn't back code correctly to not exploit itself thru the terrain.. the boys club is over for now that's all the lolpilot community is during easy mode..
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
1379
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Posted - 2014.12.01 07:36:00 -
[34] - Quote
Quote: so why don't CCP add a mlt ADS to the market and have it cost 100k isk. there is mlt tanks why not mlt ADS to let some of these guys who complain about AV learn how to fly.
if he wants to fly an ADS so bad he can spend the beginning sp on ADS.. there's enough to skill into ADS after playing 2 matches. i know because i've done it before on an alt. the whole reason they buffed the fgt and his swarm launcher is because everyone was crying about the amount of ADS spam the last hotfix. should i have an MLT light suit with a cloak just because the higher SP character with the proper SP has a cloak i should also have one without spending the SP my reason being because i want to learn to use a cloak? the most disgusting thing about the self proclaimed pilot community is their sense of entitlement.
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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Pvt Numnutz
Prophets of the Velocirapture
2013
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Posted - 2014.12.01 07:44:00 -
[35] - Quote
If you are stacking HP and have a hardener then av is manageable, its the pilots who fit for gunners that got hit the hardest. I use to be able to support my shock troops and be their life line if they encountered an overwhelming force, now as soon as a swarm is fired I have to leave them. Shame really...
Master Skyshark rider
Kaalaka dakka tamer
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
2214
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Posted - 2014.12.01 08:03:00 -
[36] - Quote
CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:I am not talking about where you went 30-0 playing militia starter fits, I'm talking about a tough match where there was proto AV (swarms) and you managed to survive and still do something other than just flying around in the redline scared to come out.
I personally have no luck, when ever I pull an ADS everyone flocks to supply depot and often get killed because WTF swarms still curving around buildings ECT.
Swarms have to counter IMO, once locked on and fired it is extremely hard to avoid them. Stress of extremely.
P.S. Me and my friend fit an ADS with 2 XT-1 turrets and we got two shotted by a redline railgun, then called in tank to destroy turret and called in ADS again and got blown up by one player with STD swarms. (we hit AB right when we herd the swarm go off but they caught up and destroyed us. I definitely have no luck.
I'm not gonna say swarms are OP because I know i'm about to have tomatoes thrown at me if I did. all the good ADS pilots still do great in PC. its the bad pilots that are the ones that suffer now. bad AND low SP pilots suffer.
even with minmando and swarms there have been some ADS pilots (in pythons with 80% resist) who shrug off 2 to 3 people swarming them and systematically killing each of us.. it is all abotu having maxed SP in the role you are playing and the experance to make use of it..
but no only this but also a "pilot" like suit fit for passive scanning range/presission so you can scan infantry at 100m and below and see/kill all people.
#[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
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Tesfa Alem
Death by Disassociation
471
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Posted - 2014.12.01 08:31:00 -
[37] - Quote
TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Quote: so why don't CCP add a mlt ADS to the market and have it cost 100k isk. there is mlt tanks why not mlt ADS to let some of these guys who complain about AV learn how to fly.
if he wants to fly an ADS so bad he can spend the beginning sp on ADS.. there's enough to skill into ADS after playing 2 matches. i know because i've done it before on an alt. the whole reason they buffed the fgt and his swarm launcher is because everyone was crying about the amount of ADS spam the last hotfix. should i have an MLT light suit with a cloak just because the higher SP character with the proper SP has a cloak i should also have one without spending the SP my reason being because i want to learn to use a cloak? the most disgusting thing about the self proclaimed pilot community is their sense of entitlement.
Well you did get the AV crying part right.
So, hows your ADS alt doing?
Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
4856
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Posted - 2014.12.01 09:00:00 -
[38] - Quote
See, the thing about swarms and ADS balance is that if you have an AB and are able to get away each time, your ship is OP, but if Swarms are able to catch up, the Swarms are OP.
Swarms and/or ADS must be balanced around one thing, and considering whether the ship has an AB or not. As you can see, it can be a very difficult thing.
One might say, increase health of ADS, but then another night argue that the ADS would require one pilot to kill various folk, while various AV are required to kill one pilot.
There are various things going on at play. Hell, even In not sure how to balance them at the moment. |
hold that
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
433
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Posted - 2014.12.01 13:11:00 -
[39] - Quote
[/quote]
You guys have a role - you're just not pub stompers anymore.[/quote]
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
5352
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Posted - 2014.12.01 14:27:00 -
[40] - Quote
I picked it up, but I'm having hell.
It costs me about 500K per kill I'd guesstimate.
I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
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Tesfa Alem
Death by Disassociation
477
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Posted - 2014.12.01 15:23:00 -
[41] - Quote
Thor Odinson42 wrote:I picked it up, but I'm having hell.
It costs me about 500K per kill I'd guesstimate.
It always hurts in the beginning. My survival tips:
Uplinks first. Every spawn point is a potentional swarmer/forge gun looking right at you. The troops can't hurt you too badly so they rank low on the threat list. Any dropship heading for a high point to droplinks is priotiry number 1.
Installations are leathal! Bewary of large rails. On maps where rails have easy line of sight of the objective, keep altitude or make sure they don't have line of sight of where you are flying.
Afterburn/ Proto modules Never wait for a second AV salvo. No matter what as soon as you take one hit GTFO. Only after you are hit will you be able to gauge the strength of Av and decide you can give engaging them a shot. Swarms are balanced to kill tanks, and you are no tank. Fit complex hp modules wherever possible.
Make long diving passes Odds are, you will bill killed by AV if you stick around them. Make a pass from a long way, you can probably pick off a medium suit or some hives on a decnet pass, forget the heavies and never try it vs min commandos.
Read the situation: Dropships are not good in ever match at all times. The tougher it is for the blueberries, the more available the red are for switching to AV with repercussion.On the ohter hand when the reds are focused on Anti infantry, a ADS may relieve some presure on the blues. Just go back to killing uplinks before troops. Everybody wants revenge and for every trooper you kill odds are they will respawn in AV. Make sure they don't repspawn right next to you.
Hope it helps.
Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
2349
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Posted - 2014.12.01 16:12:00 -
[42] - Quote
the primary target of ADS is rooftop uplinks. everything else is secondary (except for placing your own rooftop uplinks)
people just dont understand its role.
Its an absolute must in PC and a good pilot os oftin key to victory in high level play.
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
2411
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Posted - 2014.12.01 16:22:00 -
[43] - Quote
SirSnugglz
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
974
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Posted - 2014.12.01 16:23:00 -
[44] - Quote
You're pretty good... In pubs.
Saw you yesterday, landed two consecutive hits with PLC, one more hit, boom! Gunner got me...
Quafe
Anti-FoTM Prof. V
Forum Scavenger Prof. V
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Dust User
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1145
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Posted - 2014.12.01 16:39:00 -
[45] - Quote
LUGMOS wrote:You're pretty good... In pubs.
This.
Last couple times I saw this guy in PC he did absolutely nothing as I sent his ADS into flames many times over. |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
2411
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Posted - 2014.12.01 16:44:00 -
[46] - Quote
Sir Dukey wrote:I am not talking about where you went 30-0 playing militia starter fits, I'm talking about a tough match where there was proto AV (swarms) and you managed to survive and still do something other than just flying around in the redline scared to come out.
I personally have no luck, when ever I pull an ADS everyone flocks to supply depot and often get killed because WTF swarms still curving around buildings ECT.
Swarms have to counter IMO, once locked on and fired it is extremely hard to avoid them. Stress of extremely.
P.S. Me and my friend fit an ADS with 2 XT-1 turrets and we got two shotted by a redline railgun, then called in tank to destroy turret and called in ADS again and got blown up by one player with STD swarms. (we hit AB right when we herd the swarm go off but they caught up and destroyed us. I definitely have no luck.
I'm not gonna say swarms are OP because I know i'm about to have tomatoes thrown at me if I did. Single ship, tank on the ground. Their tank protecting the redline from the big bad wolf would've been in check, and at least that couldn't've been able to destroy you.
If after next month, CCP really delivers on vehicles and can improve the ADS, I'm gonna go 100% pilot.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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DUST Fiend
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
15333
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Posted - 2014.12.01 16:46:00 -
[47] - Quote
I already went 100% pilot lol. Im pretty low SP for closed beta at only 38 million, but every last point is in vehicles now.
I officially have less infantry SP than a day 1 player, and that makes me VERY happy
:D
Flight Academy coming soon(tm) to my YouTube
WoD 514
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Valor Goat
2
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Posted - 2014.12.01 16:47:00 -
[48] - Quote
Sir snugglz or however it's spelled doesn't miss a shot.
1EE7
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Sir Snugglz
Red Star. EoN.
917
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Posted - 2014.12.01 17:01:00 -
[49] - Quote
Valor Goat wrote:Sir snugglz or however it's spelled doesn't miss a shot.
I miss lotz, what you talking about.
Anyway, I have to agree. I lose about 2-3 ADS per PC match. I no longer can solo AV. The thing about PC is that it can go 1 of 3 ways. First, Enemy team will have AV, Anti-ADS ADS, and/or rammer DS while your team ignores them having you completely shut down.. Second, same as above but you will have your team help buy forging counter ADS/DS and killing their AV allowing you to do things like clear uplinks or support attacking/defending objectives. And lastly (ADS Dream), Enemy has no AV what-so-ever allowing you to reign fire from the sky as always.
It seems ADS pilots now require just as much assistance from their infantry/vehicles as they need yours. Which seems fair. Now I require to coordinate with my tanks to kill enemy tanks (no longer solo). I require to coordinate with Forges to dodge enemy ADS/Rammers. I require to coordinate with infantry to kill swarmers in order for me to assist objectives and come closer to the ground.
If the enemy wants to kill me, they must use 2-3 guys in swarms/forges which means thats 2-3 guys less my infantry need to worry about. I need to fly away and even though I am doing nothing, the fact that i made 2-3 guys switch to AV means that for a while, thats 2-3 guys that also will not be doing anything because I disengaged. I wait until AV switch back to infantry and then I return.
The reason pubs may seem harder is because you cant coordinate with your infantry/vehicles. Only your squad. So its a hit/miss with getting help against enemy AV.
You have to play smarter, need to have a fast reaction time with your active modules... basically you have a split second to decide if you will live or die. But it is possible to still be viable.
-Pro AFKing LVL 5
-Luck is just one of my skills
-Just because I make flying look easy doesn't mean it is
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Bremen van Equis
BASTARDS OF BEDLAM
37
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Posted - 2014.12.01 18:59:00 -
[50] - Quote
From the ground, and of course from the cockpit, I've seen swarms do some crazy stuff to find their mark. I feel like nerfing their turning ability could be making them more effective... For instance, if I fly down over an embankment to use the ground as cover, those swarms fired from the ground should arc in immediately and hit dirt if I'm down the hill from them. Now that they turn slower, they clear the ground cover and hit home.
My instinct in trying to lose swarms is to visualize them turning immediately to head straight for me, so I try to cut the angle using a building, embankment, etc...but their slow lazy turns let them arc around the obstacle.
Now what would be REALLY cool is if you could pull a Red October with rooftop swarmers. Fly in, let them fire away and then AB into a loop that brings you up, over, and back down toward the roof, and turning last second to bring their own missiles back down up them.
"You arrogant ass...you've killed us!!!"
Can it be done? Can you even damage yourself with swarms you've launched?
Look! Up in the sky!! It's a bird...it's a plane...it's...
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Finn Colman
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
76
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Posted - 2014.12.01 19:31:00 -
[51] - Quote
DUST Fiend wrote: ...I also find it funny how people will say of you don't have the ISK, don't fly, yet the same people will happily tell you that ISK shouldn't be a balancing factor. Forum logic 101, hard at work
That is a fallacy as you are saying that something is such, so that is the way it should be.
Essentially the implication of your statement is, "Because ISK is a balancing factor, it should be a balancing factor."
If this is not what you meant, you should try to clarify more.
It is simple logic to see why people say this. If you don't have ISK, then why waste what little you have for little to no return. An ADS is like a sports car in this way.
A shadow clad in duct tape, waiting for the moment to strike.
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Dergle
Fatal Absolution
55
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Posted - 2014.12.01 19:31:00 -
[52] - Quote
Dust User wrote:LUGMOS wrote:You're pretty good... In pubs. This. Last couple times I saw this guy in PC he did absolutely nothing as I sent his ADS into flames many times over.
Last time I saw you on the other side, y'all had 4 people on constant AV. If I remember correctly we won the match... Probably had something to do with how much AV you guys were fielding
Dipped in Sauce
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2634
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Posted - 2014.12.01 19:38:00 -
[53] - Quote
I do.
Perhaps I have to recall every now and again because of too much AV (or a single swarmer), but I've still been able to turn the tides of battles. Destroying links up high, placing my own, killing/chasing off vehicles (thought it's pretty tough now), forcing half of the enemy team into AV suits or just chasing off enemies with the sight of my shiny white death machine.
Even in PC I usually do well, losing only about 2-3 ADSs conservatively (mainly due to my own mistakes or misjudgments). I like PC better because I can order hits on targets much easier ("Hey [forge gunner], there's an Incubus on my tail, bringing him to you now" or, "I need someone to hop in my dropship to drop onto a forge gunner on the tower." Etc.)
There are just a few things I want changed then I think ADSs will be in a good spot.
Dust is there! I was real!
Dear diary, Rattati senpai noticed me today~
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Sir Snugglz
Red Star. EoN.
919
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Posted - 2014.12.01 19:48:00 -
[54] - Quote
Spkr4theDead wrote:SirSnugglz
What?
-Pro AFKing LVL 5
-Luck is just one of my skills
-Just because I make flying look easy doesn't mean it is
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Dust User
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1149
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Posted - 2014.12.01 19:48:00 -
[55] - Quote
Dergle wrote:Dust User wrote:LUGMOS wrote:You're pretty good... In pubs. This. Last couple times I saw this guy in PC he did absolutely nothing as I sent his ADS into flames many times over. Last time I saw you on the other side, y'all had 4 people on constant AV. If I remember correctly we won the match... Probably had something to do with how much AV you guys were fielding
lol That was Viktor and myself. It may have seemed like 4 but it was only 2.
You might want to take some Ginkgo Biloba if you remember winning that match.
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Jammeh McJam
F0RSAKEN EMPIRE. Smart Deploy
135
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Posted - 2014.12.01 19:49:00 -
[56] - Quote
tbh i think swarms and the ADS need to be returned to how they were pre 1.9.
either that or give ADS counter measures, swarms shouldn't be unavoidable, otherwise an ADS pilot needs extreme skill to survive and the swarmer hardly has to aim.
"We may be small and disorganized, but we're still gonna kill you" - Intergalactic Super Friends
MAG ~ Raven vet
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Dergle
Fatal Absolution
55
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Posted - 2014.12.01 19:54:00 -
[57] - Quote
Dust User wrote:Dergle wrote:Dust User wrote:LUGMOS wrote:You're pretty good... In pubs. This. Last couple times I saw this guy in PC he did absolutely nothing as I sent his ADS into flames many times over. Last time I saw you on the other side, y'all had 4 people on constant AV. If I remember correctly we won the match... Probably had something to do with how much AV you guys were fielding lol That was Viktor and myself. It may have seemed like 4 but it was only 2. You might want to take some Ginkgo Biloba if you remember winning that match. https://twitter.com/DUSTAlerts/status/537476353981812737
Assuming you 2 were Forging, you had a swarmer and I think your ADS kept switching from missile to rails.
My priority is to destroy uplinks, so I do my best to avoid AV and kill the links. Because as stated by many other pilots, 1v1ing AV isn't a good idea.
Dipped in Sauce
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Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
3105
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Posted - 2014.12.01 19:58:00 -
[58] - Quote
I can't do any good. I really suck.
God and Empress kill me, I'm a level three forum warrior.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
17911
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Posted - 2014.12.01 19:58:00 -
[59] - Quote
As a terrible pilot I have been removed from god hood.
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
\\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
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STYLIE77
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
275
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Posted - 2014.12.01 20:39:00 -
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Jammeh McJam wrote:tbh i think swarms and the ADS need to be returned to how they were pre 1.9.
either that or give ADS counter measures, swarms shouldn't be unavoidable, otherwise an ADS pilot needs extreme skill to survive and the swarmer hardly has to aim.
LOL
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Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
1211
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Posted - 2014.12.01 21:12:00 -
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Finn Colman wrote:DUST Fiend wrote: ...I also find it funny how people will say of you don't have the ISK, don't fly, yet the same people will happily tell you that ISK shouldn't be a balancing factor. Forum logic 101, hard at work
That is a fallacy as you are saying that something is such, so that is the way it should be. Essentially the implication of your statement is, "Because ISK is a balancing factor, it should be a balancing factor." If this is not what you meant, you should try to clarify more. It is simple logic to see why people say this. If you don't have ISK, then why waste what little you have for little to no return. An ADS is like a sports car in this way.
except it doesn't preform. It is just an expensive as hell sp and isk wise up link destroyer. If you want to kill, you'll probably be more effective in a militia heavy with HMG. Seriously.
Also isk is a balancing factor. Proto>militia
Proto price> militia
Chocolate Juice
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Sir Dukey
Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance
1211
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Posted - 2014.12.01 21:13:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:As a terrible pilot I have been removed from god hood.
As a terrible swarmer, I am god.
Chocolate Juice
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DUST Fiend
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
15339
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Posted - 2014.12.01 21:49:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:As a terrible pilot I have been removed from god hood. I can assure you IWS, you never once attained Godhood
Flight Academy coming soon(tm) to my YouTube
WoD 514
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Shamarskii Simon
The Hundred Acre Hood RISE of LEGION
8
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Posted - 2014.12.01 21:53:00 -
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I've been quite successful to be honest... I've had a 800k match the other night last week just doing air to air (as that's the only thing I'm skilled at with the ads). Honestly, rule number 1 is you hear swarms? It's time to go, relocate somewhere else for the time being. I know that's not right for instant run away and all but, it's the way the cookie crumbles sadly.
I really need to get on the computer, I'm tired of abridging my posts cause my phone dies lightning quick on data |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
17913
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Posted - 2014.12.01 21:58:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:As a terrible pilot I have been removed from god hood. I can assure you IWS, you never once attained Godhood
Tell that to my 50kdr ads.
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
\\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
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Juno Tristan
Obscure Reference
198
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Posted - 2014.12.01 22:13:00 -
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I don't like to boast but i just went 6 for 2 in my ADS
The payout was 191k for my total 840wp (of which only 500wp was ADS based), so that puts me at about negative 344k for the skirmish
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2379
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Posted - 2014.12.01 22:19:00 -
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Dust User wrote:Lions-Fan
Apocalyptic Destroyer
Vooblylol
Parthok
Pro Tanker
White-Lion
I would say Derrith but I haven't seen him in awhile.
Derrith was on last night.
I'd also add Lowerthan Snakeship. Guy's a heck of an ADS pilot and relatively unknown. |
DUST Fiend
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
15340
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Posted - 2014.12.01 23:10:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:As a terrible pilot I have been removed from god hood. I can assure you IWS, you never once attained Godhood Tell that to my 50kdr ads. Id like to see that. Sounds like meaningless boasting with heavy exaggeration. Ive seen you tank, and if you fly anything like you tank..well...those were some garbage redberries you were facing.
Lets see the footage.
Flight Academy coming soon(tm) to my YouTube
WoD 514
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Dust User
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
1150
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Posted - 2014.12.02 04:12:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Dust User wrote:Lions-Fan
Apocalyptic Destroyer
Vooblylol
Parthok
Pro Tanker
White-Lion
I would say Derrith but I haven't seen him in awhile. That's a good list, I think. Derrith was on last night. I'd also add Lowerthan Snakeship. Guy's a heck of an ADS pilot and relatively unknown. There's also that guy named Dust User, too.
I see Derrith on right now! I messaged the lad on PSN welcoming him back but he must have had them beats up so loud he didn't notice me.
Never seen this Snakeship fellow before. He in Molon?
lol @ Dust User. I'm way better at shooting them down than flying them. |
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