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BAMM HAVOC
Carbon 7
Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2014.11.25 10:11:00 -
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IGÇÖd like to point out that weGÇÖre not doing this to pick on CCP Games, or continue the barrage of useless doom-and-gloom, that has infested the forums for so long GÇô WeGÇÖre doing it because weGÇÖre sceptical, and concerned, and scared by the nature of CCPGÇÖs communication (hint: It is still insufficient). We truly want DUST514 do to well, to hold its own, and to evolve into EVE:Legion; some of us are actually even buying PCs just to play EVE:Legion on!
It has been more than 2 years now, and CCP is still just throwing crumpets at us, and expecting us to be well-pleased that we get anything at all. In this age, where other companies are engaging their customers much more frequently and direct, especially in the F2P area, we are getting the odd bit of information, with nothing to support it or any explanations, and weGÇÖre just here to say that CCP Games can and should do better.
WARNING Mind Blow Inbound:
DUST 514 : The Dust Players Count
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Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.11.25 10:22:00 -
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There's a reason they threw a rather meaningless number of unique monthly players at us instead of something more relevant (because such a number wouldn't be great to show off).
Also, that 100k daily players statement was indeed questionable, as as you said, it took 18 days to even sell 100k Dropsuit Command skillbooks following a reset.
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BAMM HAVOC
Carbon 7
Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2014.11.25 10:24:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:There's a reason they threw a rather meaningless number of unique monthly players at us instead of something more relevant (because such a number wouldn't be great to show off).
Also, that 100k daily players statement was indeed questionable, as as you said, it took 18 days to even sell 100k Dropsuit Command skillbooks following a reset.
There is more ...
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Operative 1174 Uuali
the unholy legion of darkstar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.11.25 10:44:00 -
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BAMM HAVOC wrote:IGÇÖd like to point out that weGÇÖre not doing this to pick on CCP Games, or continue the barrage of useless doom-and-gloom, that has infested the forums for so long GÇô WeGÇÖre doing it because weGÇÖre sceptical, and concerned, and scared by the nature of CCPGÇÖs communication (hint: It is still insufficient). We truly want DUST514 do to well, to hold its own, and to evolve into EVE:Legion; some of us are actually even buying PCs just to play EVE:Legion on! It has been more than 2 years now, and CCP is still just throwing crumpets at us, and expecting us to be well-pleased that we get anything at all. In this age, where other companies are engaging their customers much more frequently and direct, especially in the F2P area, we are getting the odd bit of information, with nothing to support it or any explanations, and weGÇÖre just here to say that CCP Games can and should do better. WARNING Mind Blow Inbound: DUST 514 : The Dust Players Count
They did engage their customers more frequently and directly. We got DUST and then the DUST keynote at fanfest. We got only a part of what was marketed. They are keeping their mouths shut on Legion for good reason.
EVE connection anyone? The biggest feature that DUST was marketed with and largely non-existent.
I'm glad they're keeping their Incarna/DUST mouths shut for once.
I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
5073
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Posted - 2014.11.25 10:59:00 -
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PS4 is the only thing that can save this game.
Re-inventing it for Legion is too time consuming and resource intensive. Something CCP has never been good at managing for the long haul. It would take them around 7 years minimum, at the rate they work things out. Hilmar will lay them all off by then, because PS3 Dust will no longer be generating income and they will simply be an unattractive money sink at that point. Just like WoD was.
On the other hand, moving Dust to PS4, the actual existing game that isn't vaporware like WoD and Legion, will continue to generate income and draw in a massive playerbase of PS4 owners who want quite literally anything to play that they can get their hands on. That would give them a launch base to do whatever long term stuff they want to do on PC, as well as a stronger system to try out new things on.
It's my fault FA exists. Direct your rage to me.
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Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.11.25 11:05:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:PS4 is the only thing that can save this game.
Re-inventing it for Legion is too time consuming and resource intensive. Something CCP has never been good at managing for the long haul. It would take them around 7 years minimum, at the rate they work things out. Hilmar will lay them all off by then, because PS3 Dust will no longer be generating income and they will simply be an unattractive money sink at that point. Just like WoD was.
On the other hand, moving Dust to PS4, the actual existing game that isn't vaporware like WoD and Legion, will continue to generate income and draw in a massive playerbase of PS4 owners who want quite literally anything to play that they can get their hands on. That would give them a launch base to do whatever long term stuff they want to do on PC, as well as a stronger system to try out new things on.
Imagine if they had started work on PS4 last year (or a bit later perhaps) instead of deciding to do Legion. Also considering the lack of (great) games on PS4 at this point.
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Nirwanda Vaughns
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Posted - 2014.11.25 11:10:00 -
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I wish DUST players got the same level of respect from CCP that EVE does. its such a huge contrast between the two games, it feels like a difference of shopping in Harrods (EVE) to shopping in Wal-Mart (DUST514) i'm hoping that once its on PC and the hassle and redtape of developing for a consoles online store is removed the game can actually be freed up and allow to progress. For games liek this Consoles are nothing but a restriction, Microsoft and Sony and even Nintendo really lack a sense of adventure when it comes to independant devs on the online stores and lack a bit of imagination. i know a lot of people think Legion is death of the FPS side of EVE but i think it'll be theonly time we'd actually see more rapid progress without CCP having to run to sony for clearence on a patch. least with EVE and Legion on the same infrastructure it should be a helluva lot more smooth sailing.
one thing though is i think CCP need to limit their development, i think they spread themselves too thin by workign on EVE, then DUST514, then World of Darkness and then Valkyrie, for such a small company 4 games was too much and i often imagine what DUST514 would have turned out like with that extra $20m and extra 56 staff working on it that was wasted with World of Darkness
Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
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Mad Syringe
ReDust Inc.
345
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Posted - 2014.11.25 11:29:00 -
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Why would I play Dust/Legion on a PC?
If I have to buy a PC, I could play Star Citizen instead...
I know it's not the same, but from what I gathered, SC will do a lot of the stuff that was promised Dust/EVE wise back in the days...
Dedicated Minmando Masshole with love for Swarmholing... Not playing logi that much anymore... which is a shame...
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Sigberct Amni
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
800
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Posted - 2014.11.25 11:56:00 -
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Bamm, I'm a fan of your videos normally but this is just peterwhocares.mp4.
Why care about how CCP spins its numbers to generate whatever BS stats? I enjoyed my year-ish here and spent my share but that's all over now. If CCP wants to fix it, they will fix it and no scathing ~video game journalism~ will matter. If they want it to stay bad, let it be bad and just let go.
The best part of this video is the end where you go 'amorti, morti, *mouth fart noises* say that 10x fast' Keep doing those videos and save your serious business effort for games that aren't abandoned. |
BAMM HAVOC
Carbon 7
Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2014.11.25 13:05:00 -
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Sigberct Amni wrote:Bamm, I'm a fan of your videos normally but this is just peterwhocares.mp4.
Why care about how CCP spins its numbers to generate whatever BS stats? I enjoyed my year-ish here and spent my share but that's all over now. If CCP wants to fix it, they will fix it and no scathing ~video game journalism~ will matter. If they want it to stay bad, let it be bad and just let go.
The best part of this video is the end where you go 'amorti, morti, *mouth fart noises* say that 10x fast' Keep doing those videos and save your serious business effort for games that aren't abandoned.
Oh don't worry, "BAMM's WAR STORIES" are coming and soon.
Just bare with me here dude, I don't like making these sorts of serious videos, I have to get this information off my chest and stop certain folks spouting nonsense about this game with there bias pro-Dev agendas , these are the facts in black and white. I am telling it how it is.
The beer will flow through these veins soon enough, that I can promise you 
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Immortal John Ripper
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Posted - 2014.11.25 14:56:00 -
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Some crazy stuff. Even after fanfest, It still surprises me that a company would so blatantly lie to their customers.
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General John Ripper
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Posted - 2014.11.25 14:56:00 -
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Some crazy stuff. Even after fanfest, It still surprises me that a company would so blatantly lie to their customers.
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BAMM HAVOC
Carbon 7
Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:35:00 -
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Immortal John Ripper wrote:Some crazy stuff. Even after fanfest, It still surprises me that a company would so blatantly lie to their customers.
little known fact ....
The UI designer for EVE : Legion CCP Peanut, no longer works at CCP.
This begs the question: What is going on with EVE : Legion ?
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
5061
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:40:00 -
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BAMM HAVOC wrote:The UI designer for EVE : Legion CCP Peanut, no longer works at CCP. And he was the last UI designer in Shanghai!  
BAMM HAVOC wrote:This begs the question: What is going on with EVE : Legion? Damn good question. Fanfest 2015, if we don't hear anything by then, well, we won't ever.
My advice to you, playa...
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Fleen Costell'o
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC
Steel Balls Alliance
471
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:57:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:BAMM HAVOC wrote:The UI designer for EVE : Legion CCP Peanut, no longer works at CCP. And he was the last UI designer in Shanghai! BAMM HAVOC wrote:This begs the question: What is going on with EVE : Legion? Damn good question. Fanfest 2015, if we don't hear anything by then, well, we won't ever.
Legion - Alienware Alpha Steam OS
http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-alpha/pd?oc=dkcwa04&model_id=alienware-alpha
EVE+VALKYRIE+LEGION IN ONE BOX
BUGS514 Find all.
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Immortal John Ripper
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:58:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:BAMM HAVOC wrote:The UI designer for EVE : Legion CCP Peanut, no longer works at CCP. And he was the last UI designer in Shanghai! BAMM HAVOC wrote:This begs the question: What is going on with EVE : Legion? Damn good question. Fanfest 2015, if we don't hear anything by then, well, we won't ever.
he doesn't work there anymore because OBVIOUSLY he finished the ui and legion is prepped for release. Right CCP? We all know how hard you work...
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General John Ripper
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:58:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:BAMM HAVOC wrote:The UI designer for EVE : Legion CCP Peanut, no longer works at CCP. And he was the last UI designer in Shanghai! BAMM HAVOC wrote:This begs the question: What is going on with EVE : Legion? Damn good question. Fanfest 2015, if we don't hear anything by then, well, we won't ever.
he doesn't work there anymore because OBVIOUSLY he finished the ui and legion is prepped for release. Right CCP? We all know how hard you work...
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
5061
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Posted - 2014.11.25 16:59:00 -
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That is not something I would blow $900 on. Why not just buy a PC?
Interesting concept though.
My advice to you, playa...
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Fleen Costell'o
Vacuum Cleaner. LLC
Steel Balls Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:07:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:That is not something I would blow $900 on. Why not just buy a PC? Interesting concept though.
Fanfest 2014 Alienware logos....and concepct EVE Online - One Ticket // 3 Games
BUGS514 Find all.
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Kalante Schiffer
Ancient Exiles.
821
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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:10:00 -
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Fleen Costell'o wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:BAMM HAVOC wrote:The UI designer for EVE : Legion CCP Peanut, no longer works at CCP. And he was the last UI designer in Shanghai! BAMM HAVOC wrote:This begs the question: What is going on with EVE : Legion? Damn good question. Fanfest 2015, if we don't hear anything by then, well, we won't ever. Legion - Alienware Alpha Steam OS http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-alpha/pd?oc=dkcwa04&model_id=alienware-alphaEVE+VALKYRIE+LEGION IN ONE BOX And buy 100 000 skill books in market Now Of course it supports the xbox controller. Companies need to learn that pathetic people like me who have wasted more than half their life playing playstation for the past almost freaking 20+ years prefer to play with the playstation controller. Come on its not really hard to give us options. Unless there is software for it that lets us use our ps controller. And no im not using a keyboard just so i can get carpal tunnel syndrome.
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SILENT GIANT
FATHERS-AND-SONS
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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:36:00 -
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BAMM HAVOC wrote:Sigberct Amni wrote:Bamm, I'm a fan of your videos normally but this is just peterwhocares.mp4.
Why care about how CCP spins its numbers to generate whatever BS stats? I enjoyed my year-ish here and spent my share but that's all over now. If CCP wants to fix it, they will fix it and no scathing ~video game journalism~ will matter. If they want it to stay bad, let it be bad and just let go.
The best part of this video is the end where you go 'amorti, morti, *mouth fart noises* say that 10x fast' Keep doing those videos and save your serious business effort for games that aren't abandoned. Oh don't worry, "BAMM's WAR STORIES" are coming and soon. Just bare with me here dude, I don't like making these sorts of serious videos, I have to get this information off my chest and stop certain folks spouting nonsense about this game with there bias pro-Dev agendas , these are the facts in black and white. I am telling it how it is. The beer will flow through these veins soon enough, that I can promise you
Well what are you waiting for! Start chuggin and let it flow
Interesting video, Im curious to skip to the last chapter and see where it all winds up. I stumbled into the EVE/DUST world about 10 yrs too late I guess, and as a newcomer its disheartening to hear that "things aren't going so well". Looking into Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous, CCP has some seriously stiff competition. It makes me a little reserved in deciding to spend money on something that is in all possibilities "circling the drain". If EVE is "dying out" why would I want to make such a risky investment when there are other options that seems to be offering more? Just to help keep the boat afloat?
I'm completely down for that though, because I do like the game. Although, I am starting to understand why so many long time CCP customers are so upset with them now. CCP almost seems like they are some sort of shady investment broker, and take your money and then leave you in the dark so they don't have to tell you how much they screwed up with it. A little transparency would go a long way right about now. Something, anything hinting at projected future goals for the CCP games in question. Article? Screenshots? (pushing my luck) video trailer?, Would do more to draw investors (customers) than apparently CCP realizes.
The thing has me "in awe" sort of speak, is the 10+ yrs of history and lore, and what they have to build upon. The EVE world is so vast and rich in history, I would hate to see it end just as I'm beginning to get interested in it.
Hey thats my luck though. I'd love to see more, but when you look into games like Elite Dangerous, and there's actual joystick flight, space piracy, exploring an actual galaxy. Heck, it seems like how EVE was supposed to be.
Now if only CCP could put up EVE, Legion content showing what we all want/ hope for in these games, I believe CCP could bring something that makes Elite Dangerous look too simple. But they need to hurry up and do it already. They are going to miss their moment and be stuck in the same rut it seems they've been in for years, if they don't give the last of their audience and the few they've drew in recently some kind of content if they expect to go anywhere with the little momentum they've gained recently. |
Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
5103
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Posted - 2014.11.25 17:52:00 -
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If you are going to claim that 300,000 unique account logins per month is more than EVE has, then please tell us how many unique account logins per month EVE gets, and tell use where you got that number.
I am fairly sure that EVE has a lot more than 300,000 unique account logins per month.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2230
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Posted - 2014.11.25 18:12:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:It is 300,000 unique PSN accounts.
Source?
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BAMM HAVOC
Carbon 7
Iron Oxide.
617
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Posted - 2014.11.25 18:34:00 -
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[quote=Fox Gaden]
as long as it is a least paying its own way, they are not likely to pull the plug on DUST 514.
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Very astute as always Gaden, all will be explained soon, the plug has already been pulled and DUST514 died at the end of ccp's FY of 2013.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
5106
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Posted - 2014.11.25 18:46:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:It is 300,000 unique PSN accounts. Source?
The DEV blog. The meaning of "unique accounts" is very specific. There is not a whole lot of room for misinterpretation.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
5065
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Posted - 2014.11.25 18:46:00 -
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Translation: my website needs more hits/Youtube vid needs more views so I'm splitting my conspiracy theories into two parts.
My advice to you, playa...
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Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.11.25 18:49:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:The DEV blog. The meaning of "unique accounts" is very specific. There is not a whole lot of room for misinterpretation.
Devblog wrote:WeGÇÿre very happy to see that our player base remains both stable and active. In fact, we are currently seeing the highest engagement numbers in over a year, averaging around 300.000 Monthly Active (unique) Users over the last few months.
No mention of "accounts" in the devblog. It says "users" which could mean both accounts and characters.
Edit: And when companies publishes numbers like this it's usually just characters unless stated otherwise as that implies a bigger playerbase.
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CrotchGrab 360
Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase
1528
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Posted - 2014.11.25 18:51:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:PS4 is the only thing that can save this game.
Re-inventing it for Legion is too time consuming and resource intensive. Something CCP has never been good at managing for the long haul. It would take them around 7 years minimum, at the rate they work things out. Hilmar will lay them all off by then, because PS3 Dust will no longer be generating income and they will simply be an unattractive money sink at that point. Just like WoD was.
On the other hand, moving Dust to PS4, the actual existing game that isn't vaporware like WoD and Legion, will continue to generate income and draw in a massive playerbase of PS4 owners who want quite literally anything to play that they can get their hands on. That would give them a launch base to do whatever long term stuff they want to do on PC, as well as a stronger system to try out new things on.
so you think that porting to ps4 won't also be time consuming and resource intensive? it has been said by the developers that those are the reasons for which not to port dust to ps4.
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Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.11.25 18:54:00 -
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CrotchGrab 360 wrote:so you think that porting to ps4 won't also be time consuming and resource intensive? it has been said by the developers that those are the reasons for which not to port dust to ps4.
I don't see how it wouldn't take less time than making a completely new game. Porting to PS4 instead of doing Legion (on PC) likely wouldn't have alienated a good part of the DUST playerbase as well.
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Vell0cet
Vengeance Unbound
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:03:00 -
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CrotchGrab 360 wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:PS4 is the only thing that can save this game.
Re-inventing it for Legion is too time consuming and resource intensive. Something CCP has never been good at managing for the long haul. It would take them around 7 years minimum, at the rate they work things out. Hilmar will lay them all off by then, because PS3 Dust will no longer be generating income and they will simply be an unattractive money sink at that point. Just like WoD was.
On the other hand, moving Dust to PS4, the actual existing game that isn't vaporware like WoD and Legion, will continue to generate income and draw in a massive playerbase of PS4 owners who want quite literally anything to play that they can get their hands on. That would give them a launch base to do whatever long term stuff they want to do on PC, as well as a stronger system to try out new things on. so you think that porting to ps4 won't also be time consuming and resource intensive? it has been said by the developers that those are the reasons for which not to port dust to ps4.
The two systems have completely different architectures. The Unreal 3 engine running DUST right now has been heavily modified. This means it will have to be massively overhauled to work on the PS4. That is a HUGE deal (like redesigning/rebuilding your car's engine while it's driving down the road). This is basically what they've been doing for Legion, and what I suspect they've spent 90%+ of their time working on since Fanfest. The difference is that they have a lot more flexibility on the PC, can get a test server going, and don't have to push changes through Sony which slows everything down. Once they can get Legion sorted on the PC, porting to PS4 is not nearly as difficult. As much as I wish it wasn't, Legion on the PC first truly is the right call.
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Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:03:00 -
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I wear tinfoil underwears!
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Feldt-Grace
Anaheim Electronics Manufacture Company
34
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Posted - 2014.11.25 19:36:00 -
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In the German Store ist Dust not F2P~ =ƒÿ¦
TRANS-AM!
Gundam, DUST and more Gameplays
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BAMM HAVOC
Carbon 7
Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2014.11.26 11:04:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:BAMM HAVOC wrote:The UI designer for EVE : Legion CCP Peanut, no longer works at CCP. And he was the last UI designer in Shanghai! BAMM HAVOC wrote:This begs the question: What is going on with EVE : Legion? Damn good question. Fanfest 2015, if we don't hear anything by then, well, we won't ever.
Fanfest of 2015 will be an interesting time for ccp, I for 1 hope they show us there legion beta !
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Sir Petersen
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.11.26 11:16:00 -
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BAMM HAVOC wrote:Fanfest of 2015 will be an interesting time for ccp, I for 1 hope they show us there legion beta !
First you need alpha.
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Lady MDK
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.11.26 11:44:00 -
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Sir Petersen wrote:BAMM HAVOC wrote:Fanfest of 2015 will be an interesting time for ccp, I for 1 hope they show us there legion beta ! First you need alpha.
Aren't we in effect playing that now?
Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following.
I don't care so neither should you :)
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BAMM HAVOC
Carbon 7
Iron Oxide.
621
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Posted - 2014.11.27 09:37:00 -
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Part 2 :
DUST 514 : The Acquisition And State Of CCP.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
3473
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Posted - 2014.11.27 10:54:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:PS4 is the only thing that can save this game.
Re-inventing it for Legion is too time consuming and resource intensive. Something CCP has never been good at managing for the long haul. It would take them around 7 years minimum, at the rate they work things out. Hilmar will lay them all off by then, because PS3 Dust will no longer be generating income and they will simply be an unattractive money sink at that point. Just like WoD was.
On the other hand, moving Dust to PS4, the actual existing game that isn't vaporware like WoD and Legion, will continue to generate income and draw in a massive playerbase of PS4 owners who want quite literally anything to play that they can get their hands on. That would give them a launch base to do whatever long term stuff they want to do on PC, as well as a stronger system to try out new things on.
Totally agree Himiko.....with this new version of Dust and added improvements for PS4 system, I think this game would be revived.
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ZDub 303
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.11.27 12:04:00 -
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BAMM HAVOC wrote:Fanfest of 2015 will be an interesting time for ccp, I for 1 hope they show us there legion beta !
CCP Frame wrote:Hey guys,
We are not planning to make any announcements about or show anything new for DUST 514 or Project Legion at Fanfest, but CCP Rattati and CCP Rouge will be on hand to talk to attendees and participate in all the usual activities with everyone such as pub crawls and roundtables.
It does make you wonder a little bit.
1 year for beta was too soon imo so I'm not surprised we're not seeing a finished product but nothing at all at fanfest makes me a little concerned. Something tells me Legion is not getting its spotlight at FF2015 due to decisions made by management at Reykjavik and not by management at Shanghai. |
Lady MDK
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.11.27 16:56:00 -
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Calling it now... Legion will be an eve expansion next summer where you leave your ship and go fight on a planet. Or land your ship on a planet and go explore.
Looking forward to seeing drop suits and weapons in the NEX store anyone?
Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following.
I don't care so neither should you :)
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Soraya Xel
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
4838
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Posted - 2014.11.27 17:10:00 -
[40] - Quote
So far, this entire series is extra tinfoily.
CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
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Luk Manag
of Terror
TRE GAFFEL
590
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Posted - 2014.11.27 17:15:00 -
[41] - Quote
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the multi-million dollar write off was for CCP Atlanta's closure and the cancelation of the World of Darkness MMO.
There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
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Avinash Decker
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
154
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Posted - 2014.11.27 17:23:00 -
[42] - Quote
Maybe something you may not have taken in conscideration, but eve got increased subs to 400,000 to 500,000 between late 2012 to 2013. |
Mobius Wyvern
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
5457
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Posted - 2014.11.27 18:33:00 -
[43] - Quote
Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:BAMM HAVOC wrote:IGÇÖd like to point out that weGÇÖre not doing this to pick on CCP Games, or continue the barrage of useless doom-and-gloom, that has infested the forums for so long GÇô WeGÇÖre doing it because weGÇÖre sceptical, and concerned, and scared by the nature of CCPGÇÖs communication (hint: It is still insufficient). We truly want DUST514 do to well, to hold its own, and to evolve into EVE:Legion; some of us are actually even buying PCs just to play EVE:Legion on! It has been more than 2 years now, and CCP is still just throwing crumpets at us, and expecting us to be well-pleased that we get anything at all. In this age, where other companies are engaging their customers much more frequently and direct, especially in the F2P area, we are getting the odd bit of information, with nothing to support it or any explanations, and weGÇÖre just here to say that CCP Games can and should do better. WARNING Mind Blow Inbound: DUST 514 : The Dust Players Count They did engage their customers more frequently and directly. We got DUST and then the DUST keynote at fanfest. We got only a part of what was marketed. They are keeping their mouths shut on Legion for good reason. EVE connection anyone? The biggest feature that DUST was marketed with and largely non-existent. I'm glad they're keeping their Incarna/DUST mouths shut for once.
Let's not forget that CCP has said in interviews that they believe the EVE link to be a MISTAKE.
It appears to be their honest belief that the game should have been launched and spent no less than a year with NO connection to EVE Online whatsoever.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
798
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Posted - 2014.11.27 23:49:00 -
[44] - Quote
if ccp sells i hope its to sony and no one else |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
10323
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Posted - 2014.11.28 00:57:00 -
[45] - Quote
As long as they don't get sold off to EA.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
10323
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Posted - 2014.11.28 00:58:00 -
[46] - Quote
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:if ccp sells i hope its to sony and no one else
Sorry, I don't trust Sony.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Blueprint For Murder
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
410
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Posted - 2014.11.28 00:59:00 -
[47] - Quote
I don't think dust would be considered good investment for any company what grand mechanics the game does have can be reproduced. Even in the respect of PR I spend a ton of time on games pc/xbox/ps3 and I never even heard of this game; I stumbled upon it when checking out defiance. Further still lets say I just missed that memo and those pages in my gaming news along with all of my mmo buddies well I don't think dust is something that people could equate with esports the plague of balance issues doesn't allow for it nor does the name inspire confidence.
If they want to change peoples perception of dust they better act soon because their time is short, but I get the feeling that this crew is just riding a dead horse to the bank; maybe I'm wrong though and the changes they are saving will make legion the competitive mmo shooter that everyone wants.
21 day fast 11/28/14 Life-$
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The Master Race
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
410
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Posted - 2014.11.28 00:59:00 -
[48] - Quote
I think that the connections with the eve universe creates a lot of complications. I don't think dust would be considered good investment for any company, what grand mechanics the game does have can be reproduced. Even in the respect of PR I spend a ton of time on games pc/xbox/ps3 and I never even heard of this game; I stumbled upon it when checking out defiance. Further still lets say I just missed that memo, those pages in my gaming news along, and so did all of my mmo buddies... I don't think dust is something that people could equate with esports the plague of balance issues doesn't allow for it nor does the name inspire confidence.
Even If they want to change peoples perception of dust their time is short, but I get the feeling that this crew is just riding a dead horse to the bank; maybe I'm wrong though and the changes they are saving will make legion the competitive mmo shooter that everyone wants.
21 day fast 11/28/14 Life-$
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
10323
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Posted - 2014.11.28 01:00:00 -
[49] - Quote
Mobius Wyvern wrote:Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:BAMM HAVOC wrote:IGÇÖd like to point out that weGÇÖre not doing this to pick on CCP Games, or continue the barrage of useless doom-and-gloom, that has infested the forums for so long GÇô WeGÇÖre doing it because weGÇÖre sceptical, and concerned, and scared by the nature of CCPGÇÖs communication (hint: It is still insufficient). We truly want DUST514 do to well, to hold its own, and to evolve into EVE:Legion; some of us are actually even buying PCs just to play EVE:Legion on! It has been more than 2 years now, and CCP is still just throwing crumpets at us, and expecting us to be well-pleased that we get anything at all. In this age, where other companies are engaging their customers much more frequently and direct, especially in the F2P area, we are getting the odd bit of information, with nothing to support it or any explanations, and weGÇÖre just here to say that CCP Games can and should do better. WARNING Mind Blow Inbound: DUST 514 : The Dust Players Count They did engage their customers more frequently and directly. We got DUST and then the DUST keynote at fanfest. We got only a part of what was marketed. They are keeping their mouths shut on Legion for good reason. EVE connection anyone? The biggest feature that DUST was marketed with and largely non-existent. I'm glad they're keeping their Incarna/DUST mouths shut for once. Let's not forget that CCP has said in interviews that they believe the EVE link to be a MISTAKE. It appears to be their honest belief that the game should have been launched and spent no less than a year with NO connection to EVE Online whatsoever.
From the looks of it, they were probably right about that. The Eve-Dust connection we have now is absolutely meaningless and has no impact on Eve. Even faction warfare doesn't do much and that is the biggest connection we have with Eve at the moment.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Blueprint For Murder
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
410
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Posted - 2014.11.28 01:18:00 -
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I was shocked when someone described dust as a sandbox game, but then realized after I spent some time with the game that it was because it was so poorly balanced.
"Remember, despite it's overwhelming success in the MMO market, the idiotic 'gaming community' still considers EVE's approach to be a 'niche' design philosophy.
Catering specifically to morons makes one many millions. Not doing so is still considered strange and alien to most any game company. "
lol so much for that ehh ccp.
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The Master Race
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
410
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Posted - 2014.11.28 01:18:00 -
[51] - Quote
I was shocked when someone described dust as a sandbox game, but then realized after I spent some time with the game that it was because it was so poorly balanced.
"Remember, despite it's overwhelming success in the MMO market, the idiotic 'gaming community' still considers EVE's approach to be a 'niche' design philosophy.
Catering specifically to morons makes one many millions. Not doing so is still considered strange and alien to most any game company. "
lol so much for that ehh ccp no need for balance as long as the zombies stay.
21 day fast 11/28/14 Life-$
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
10324
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Posted - 2014.11.28 01:46:00 -
[52] - Quote
Something to read through since we're on the subject matter. Keep in mind that The Mittani website is a very reputable source of information for anything happening with CCP, Dust 514, and Eve Online and they have a good staff from the looks of it.
http://www.themittani.com/news/ccp-reveals-mediocre-2014-financials-layoffs
From the looks of it, CCP may have suffered a lot with the cancellation of WoD, but it's still doing just fine. And since Dust is making money compared to World of Darkness (which never made money), I can't say for sure if this is a sign of CCP ever being sold. At least not yet.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
2662
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Posted - 2014.11.28 02:01:00 -
[53] - Quote
They are selling to Immortal John Ripper!!
Dust Loyalist
Greedy Bastards
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BAMM HAVOC
Carbon 7
Iron Oxide.
621
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Posted - 2014.11.28 09:20:00 -
[54] - Quote
Maken Tosch wrote:Something to read through since we're on the subject matter. Keep in mind that The Mittani website is a very reputable source of information for anything happening with CCP, Dust 514, and Eve Online and they have a good staff from the looks of it. http://www.themittani.com/news/ccp-reveals-mediocre-2014-financials-layoffsFrom the looks of it, CCP may have suffered a lot with the cancellation of WoD, but it's still doing just fine. And since Dust is making money compared to World of Darkness (which never made money), I can't say for sure if this is a sign of CCP ever being sold. At least not yet.
This was in part started by that article, Good find!
YOU TUBES BEERCANATER PLUS BACON !
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Tesfa Alem
Death by Disassociation
457
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Posted - 2014.11.28 12:18:00 -
[55] - Quote
Just purely speculating here, but if i understand the points you made in your past videos that A) Dust has been written off as a R&D project and B) CCP is being sold, so the company is boosting stats about its assests until it can it can find a suitible buyer.
The frustrating part is that CCP has done nothing to attract enough players to dust so they wouldn't have to stat boost. CCP also cut its own financial success when they stopped selling BPOs for over a year and merely relied upon booster sales. And the way the Rouge wedding played out really crippled dust. A lot of people quit playing and/or stopped buying aurum, and quite a few cancelled there eve accounts as well.
They really cut off thier nose to spite their own face and the hotfixes and 1.9 has been that nose badly sticthed back on to show that they could make at least some profit doint things that PLAYERS have been telling them to do for as long as Dust has been around.
Respec for Aurum
Release the old BPOs
Bring back the Package deals
Rework matchmaking
Look after new players
As much as i would like to give the devs credit on coming around to this lately, I cannot. Why give them credit for finnaly doing what is common sense to players who are not running a gaming company. We had to beg for a year for CCP to take our money. Now that they finally are doing exactly what we told them to do to make money they are making sure that it will not be worth it. No dust514 or Legion announcements at fanfest is B.S.
Dust is in steady decline as more and more vets become disillusioned about the future plans of dust and legion and there are fewer and fewer newberries to replace them. Fanfest could have been an occasion to right the ship, get her steady and at least prevent more people from leaving.
- f .u-fanfest 2014,
- throw-some-bones-at-you hotfixes
- oh-yeah-pay-me 1.9
all of which i could have forgiven untill
-who-cares-about-you fanfest 2015
Sorry if its doom and gloom Bamm, but thats all CCP have given me to work with. Fanfest needed a to be the glimmer of sunshine to tide us over, and we are not even getting that.
Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
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Nirwanda Vaughns
1002
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Posted - 2014.11.28 13:01:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:PS4 is the only thing that can save this game.
Re-inventing it for Legion is too time consuming and resource intensive. Something CCP has never been good at managing for the long haul. It would take them around 7 years minimum, at the rate they work things out. Hilmar will lay them all off by then, because PS3 Dust will no longer be generating income and they will simply be an unattractive money sink at that point. Just like WoD was.
On the other hand, moving Dust to PS4, the actual existing game that isn't vaporware like WoD and Legion, will continue to generate income and draw in a massive playerbase of PS4 owners who want quite literally anything to play that they can get their hands on. That would give them a launch base to do whatever long term stuff they want to do on PC, as well as a stronger system to try out new things on. Totally agree Himiko.....with this new version of Dust and added improvements for PS4 system, I think this game would be revived.
couldn't be more wrong. consoles have far too many restrictions for online store games. with PC CCP will be free to do things as and when they like with no one ot answer to but themselves and the players. Also, there are over 500k subs to EVE, not all them have consoles and many wouldn't dream of buying a console. having the oppertunity to download Legion on a machine they're familiar and have a preference too, and that many believe is the 'best' for gaming then Legion is likely to flourish on PC than it would on consoles. I've always been a console gamer all my life but with consoles Sony, MS, Nintendo are quite restrictive about their online markets as well as the security needed for DUST/Legion to connect with EVE, it was one of the reasons reported that MS wouldn't allow it on 360 (same as with the Portal 2 PC to console connections) having both Legion and EVE on the same system with same/similar coding should enable it to succeed and build both playerbase and reputation to then perhaps move over to ps4 and/or XB1 in 3-4yrs time similar to how Planetside 2 is.
Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
proud C-II bpo owner
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BAMM HAVOC
Carbon 7
Iron Oxide.
621
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Posted - 2014.11.28 15:08:00 -
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Tesfa Alem wrote:Just purely speculating here, but if i understand the points you made in your past videos that A) Dust has been written off as a R&D project and B) CCP is being sold, so the company is boosting stats about its assests until it can it can find a suitible buyer.
- f .u-fanfest 2014,
- throw-some-bones-at-you hotfixes
- oh-yeah-pay-me 1.9
-who-cares-about-you fanfest 2015
No, Tess. No need for speculation, this is exactly what I am saying. You sir just have the uncanny ability to break it all down into simpler terms.
YOU TUBES BEERCANATER PLUS BACON !
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Laurent Cazaderon
What The French
Red Whines.
2357
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Posted - 2014.11.28 15:08:00 -
[58] - Quote
Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:PS4 is the only thing that can save this game.
Re-inventing it for Legion is too time consuming and resource intensive. Something CCP has never been good at managing for the long haul. It would take them around 7 years minimum, at the rate they work things out. Hilmar will lay them all off by then, because PS3 Dust will no longer be generating income and they will simply be an unattractive money sink at that point. Just like WoD was.
On the other hand, moving Dust to PS4, the actual existing game that isn't vaporware like WoD and Legion, will continue to generate income and draw in a massive playerbase of PS4 owners who want quite literally anything to play that they can get their hands on. That would give them a launch base to do whatever long term stuff they want to do on PC, as well as a stronger system to try out new things on. Totally agree Himiko.....with this new version of Dust and added improvements for PS4 system, I think this game would be revived. couldn't be more wrong. consoles have far too many restrictions for online store games. with PC CCP will be free to do things as and when they like with no one ot answer to but themselves and the players. Also, there are over 500k subs to EVE, not all them have consoles and many wouldn't dream of buying a console. having the oppertunity to download Legion on a machine they're familiar and have a preference too, and that many believe is the 'best' for gaming then Legion is likely to flourish on PC than it would on consoles. I've always been a console gamer all my life but with consoles Sony, MS, Nintendo are quite restrictive about their online markets as well as the security needed for DUST/Legion to connect with EVE, it was one of the reasons reported that MS wouldn't allow it on 360 (same as with the Portal 2 PC to console connections) having both Legion and EVE on the same system with same/similar coding should enable it to succeed and build both playerbase and reputation to then perhaps move over to ps4 and/or XB1 in 3-4yrs time similar to how Planetside 2 is.
Couldnt be more wrong ? That s arguable.
PC may be all freedom and butterflies but the competition is ferocious. Creating a solid player base there will be a real challenge and even if the entire population of EVE was to play it, it wouldnt be enough.
On the other hand, consoles have pretty much nothing going on that specific MMOFPS thing. And visibility is guaranteed with mainstreamed stores. On pc, not so much.
I just love how the main justification for developping on PC are :
- But what about EVE players, they may not want to by a console
=> Yeah, and so i guess all console players playing DUST 514 just DREEEEEAAAAAM of buying a PC to keep playing.
- But, developping on console is soooooooo hard, and sony's network is sooooo tough.
=> Okay.... Then how come games like destiny, ACU, and such manage to release 3 patches in the course of 2 month ? Damn, that seems very very hard..... And let's not forget Sony put in some efforts to make things easier.
As for the planetside 2 example. It actually took 1 year to develop. The first announcement for PS2 being available on release for PS4 was under the assumption that they would simply port the damn thing. Then they decided to use their brain and revamp the game UI\Control wise. (Which they havent finished yet). Also, PS2 even on PC was optimised like **** so optimising for a unified architecture took time. So again, whoah..... Hard and long...... and also, let's compare developping time with end product quality, and let's laugh.
And maybe we can say a few words on DCU, or warframe ? Those two games are working. No problem. Hell even blacklight is playable now.
At some point, one's got to just stop looking for excuses or justifications and simply admit when there's an obvious lack of competence and gigantic executive management failure in strategic decisions. The simple fact they hired a chinese studio with no experience whatsoever to build dust in the first place should have been a big enough hint to have us all run in the opposite direction.
Anyway, that thread was delicious to my eyes. Never thought i could be even more amazed by the overall lack of professionalism\transparency\decency than i already was.
Farming your likes since 2012
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
1176
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Posted - 2014.11.28 15:53:00 -
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Your theories have little to no solid evidence to back them up.
You point to CCP taking a multimillion dollar write off on Dust which was in all likely hood related to World of Darkness. Why would you even assume it is related to Dust when this filing was made at the same time they shut down another game and laid off most of the workforce for that game.
You quote valuations per player from another game which is not even on the same platform and does not charge players in any where near the same way.
You quote financial data that you obviously did not study very well. If you did you would know that unspent AUR is filed as a liability until it has actually been spent on in game items making even the profit ratios reported versus actual cash reserves to be very different.
I am all for a good doom story but PLEASE have a little bit of backbone to it. This was a great attempt at being controversial to stir up hits on your blog but the Dust community really is not big enough for this type of activity to benefit you in anyway. All you are doing is spreading more unfounded rumors through out this community that oh so loves to spread rumors. |
Nirwanda Vaughns
1003
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Posted - 2014.11.28 15:53:00 -
[60] - Quote
seeing as DUST was released almost 2yrs ago on a console which has "80million units sold" as CCP loved to tell us and without any game of its kind on any other console, tell me how successful dust514 has been when it had the whole market to itself.
and its not so much developing for a console its all the redtape that comes with it. Timesplitters Rewind had the same issue that the developers had to wait about a year for aproval from both Crytek to allow them to use the Cryengine on PS4 and then Sony to say wether or not they can put it on the PS4 or not. the same also applies to the Unreal engine. its not simply a case of CCP saying "oh hey we're gonna make Legion for PS4 now" they have to meet criteria from both Epic games to allow usage of Unreal engine on a console and then if they get the green light from Epic games they then have to goto Sony as convince them about moving a game which has failed to impress on the PS3 and sell it on the PS4 PSN. PC however they have the licence for the engine to develop it and to release it they just put the EXE on a website and there you go, they can have LEgion out in a matter of a few months
CCP can then work at distancing Legion from DUST514 and the PS3 version, which lets face it hasn't had the most glamourous reveiws in the industry. and begin to establish Legion as an FPSMMO that they originally billed DUST as, once they (hopefully) build up a better reputation and playerbase they can then begin to start approaching Sony and MS again with Legion when DUST has been partially forgotten about as that 'bad' FPSMMO demo on the PS3.
Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
proud C-II bpo owner
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BAMM HAVOC
Carbon 7
Iron Oxide.
621
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Posted - 2014.11.28 16:15:00 -
[61] - Quote
deezy dabest wrote:Your theories have little to no solid evidence to back them up.
Please read : Solid Proof
YOU TUBES BEERCANATER PLUS BACON !
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GLOBAL fils'de RAGE
Consolidated Dust
57
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Posted - 2014.11.28 16:32:00 -
[62] - Quote
BAMM HAVOC wrote:Immortal John Ripper wrote:Some crazy stuff. Even after fanfest, It still surprises me that a company would so blatantly lie to their customers. little known fact .... The UI designer for EVE : Legion CCP Peanut, no longer works at CCP. This begs the question: What is going on with EVE : Legion ?
Nothing.
It was always Steam or SONY. A PC shooter based on UE3? Let's get the C# tools out..lol
Facebook took Rift? SteamOS is a disaster, nevermind it's controller is MIA.
SONY has the DUST servers already in their NOC's, and Morpheaus will soon be here. So the real question is what will dust be like in 1080 VR or 4k?
If CCP want's to divest risk, that is a good thing. I won't comment on the cosmetics needed or even if CCP maybe a financial "two bagger".
I support DUST financially, because I trully love this game. I also love SONY.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
5336
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Posted - 2014.11.28 17:38:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:So far, this entire series is extra tinfoily.
To me what he is saying is either fairly close to the truth OR CCP is one of the worst companies at marketing in history.
I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
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BAMM HAVOC
Carbon 7
Iron Oxide.
638
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Posted - 2014.12.07 10:21:00 -
[64] - Quote
DUST 514 : The 300 000 SP Exploit
The Sober Version : The 300 000 SP Exploit
YOU TUBES BEERCANATER PLUS BACON !
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
6332
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Posted - 2014.12.07 10:46:00 -
[65] - Quote
I see no hard math or pic evidence behind the 300k SP claim in one match. You can boost for a lot of SP but claiming 300k is a bit much.
NEG1
[Event] Dust Hunger Games
PC, ISK,EVE, Corp Services
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
2438
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Posted - 2014.12.07 13:20:00 -
[66] - Quote
if you get somewhere around 45k SP in a match (before booster is applied) and have a booster active, then with instant boosters you can get about 200,000 sp
45000sp (original amount)
22500 SP (booster bonus
135000 (level 3 instant booster costing 2100 AUR)
= 202500
ide like to note that said instant booster does not count towards your SP cap for the week either.... alowing you to do this a massive 16 and a half times. for 3375000 SP iin a week
so
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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RogueTrooper 2000AD
Neckbeard Absolution
357
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Posted - 2014.12.07 14:18:00 -
[67] - Quote
What a load of tinfoil crap and hype.
Bamm, get a phone that's open to all networks and a few hundred sims each month and be a self made parasite without this.
Wansktain @ Rekt
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BAMM HAVOC
Carbon 7
Iron Oxide.
639
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Posted - 2014.12.07 14:33:00 -
[68] - Quote
Ghosts Chance wrote:if you get somewhere around 45k SP in a match (before booster is applied) and have a booster active, then with instant boosters you can get about 200,000 sp
45000sp (original amount)
22500 SP (booster bonus
135000 (level 3 instant booster costing 2100 AUR)
= 202500
ide like to note that said instant booster does not count towards your SP cap for the week either.... alowing you to do this a massive 16 and a half times. for 3375000 SP iin a week
so
that's sounds about right. in short a new player can reach 240 mil sp in about 3 months, that means they will stomp the bitter vets into the ground, besides have you noticed how many 100mil sp players there are now? And they have only been playing for a few months.
YOU TUBES BEERCANATER PLUS BACON !
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
2439
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Posted - 2014.12.07 14:35:00 -
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BAMM HAVOC wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:if you get somewhere around 45k SP in a match (before booster is applied) and have a booster active, then with instant boosters you can get about 200,000 sp
45000sp (original amount)
22500 SP (booster bonus
135000 (level 3 instant booster costing 2100 AUR)
= 202500
ide like to note that said instant booster does not count towards your SP cap for the week either.... alowing you to do this a massive 16 and a half times. for 3375000 SP iin a week
so that's sounds about right. in short a new player can reach 240 mil sp in about 3 months, that means they will stomp the bitter vets into the ground, besides have you noticed how many 100mil sp players there are now? And they have only been playing for a few months.
with omegas you can get 6mil SP in a week
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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slave 43343323
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.12.07 14:44:00 -
[70] - Quote
97 cents a match for 4 matches I can cap out with a buddy? Or does that not effect my cap and I can do that all day long? |
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
2439
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Posted - 2014.12.07 14:53:00 -
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slave 43343323 wrote:97 cents a match for 4 matches I can cap out with a buddy? Or does that not effect my cap and I can do that all day long?
all day long
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
2444
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Posted - 2014.12.07 17:38:00 -
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RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote:What a load of tinfoil crap and hype.
Bamm, get a phone that's open to all networks and a few hundred sims each month and be a self made parasite without this.
no with dedicated farming its legit.
several unanmed PC folks are currently grabbing over 10k WPs in their own districts and pulling 300k-400k SP a game :P
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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RogueTrooper 2000AD
Neckbeard Absolution
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Posted - 2014.12.07 17:46:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote:What a load of tinfoil crap and hype.
Bamm, get a phone that's open to all networks and a few hundred sims each month and be a self made parasite without this. no with dedicated farming its legit. several unanmed PC folks are currently grabbing over 10k WPs in their own districts and pulling 300k-400k SP a game :P
What I stated was to do with bamms channel and relating to what he can do to boost CPM.
And that's not the council I'm on about.
Wansktain @ Rekt
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
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Posted - 2014.12.07 17:47:00 -
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RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote:What a load of tinfoil crap and hype.
Bamm, get a phone that's open to all networks and a few hundred sims each month and be a self made parasite without this. no with dedicated farming its legit. several unanmed PC folks are currently grabbing over 10k WPs in their own districts and pulling 300k-400k SP a game :P What I stated was to do with bamms channel and relating to what he can do to boost CPM. And that's not the council I'm on about.
ah sorry bout that
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
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Posted - 2014.12.07 18:06:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:if you get somewhere around 45k SP in a match (before booster is applied) and have a booster active, then with instant boosters you can get about 200,000 sp
45000sp (original amount)
22500 SP (booster bonus
135000 (level 3 instant booster costing 2100 AUR)
= 202500
ide like to note that said instant booster does not count towards your SP cap for the week either.... alowing you to do this a massive 16 and a half times. for 3375000 SP iin a week
so
To get that 45k original SP you would be required to gain around 20-21k War points. I have yet to seen any of these booster get that high.
Do the math is someone got lets say 7k War points along with passive match SP it would come around lets say 16k original SP at end of match.
NEG1
[Event] Dust Hunger Games
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
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Posted - 2014.12.07 18:13:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:if you get somewhere around 45k SP in a match (before booster is applied) and have a booster active, then with instant boosters you can get about 200,000 sp
45000sp (original amount)
22500 SP (booster bonus
135000 (level 3 instant booster costing 2100 AUR)
= 202500
ide like to note that said instant booster does not count towards your SP cap for the week either.... alowing you to do this a massive 16 and a half times. for 3375000 SP iin a week
so To get that 45k original SP you would be required to gain around 20-21k War points. I have yet to seen any of these booster get that high. Do the math is someone got lets say 7k War points along with passive match SP it would come around lets say 16k original SP at end of match.
i can farm around 100k in a farming match swapping from hacking to repping (repping is more WPs but once you hit the cap you have to swap to 4x complex hack mod rapid hacks)
instructions
- buy your way into a PC farming match
- equip as many complex hacking modules as you can (minscout or logi ftw) and a rep tool
- grab 3 partners (or 5 depending on the setup)
- find an instalation
- 2 hack while 2 shoot and 2 rep, rotate when reppers hit the cap
-alturnativly if there is a kill farmer in your group then you just have 2 hack while everyone elsee reps the kill farmer for guarddian points untill they hit the cap then swap)
you must be new to this.
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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slave 43343323
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2014.12.07 20:52:00 -
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How much to buy your way into a PC Farming match? |
BAMM HAVOC
Carbon 7
Iron Oxide.
640
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Posted - 2014.12.07 20:57:00 -
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[quote=Ghosts Chance][quote=Viktor Hadah Jr][quote=Ghosts Chance]if you get somewhere around 45k SP in a match (before booster is applied) and have a booster active, then with instant boosters you can get about 200,000 sp
45000sp (original amount)
22500 SP (booster bonus
135000 (level 3 instant booster costing 2100 AUR)
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SP farming is not new, you have missed the point by a fair bit. what I am saying is that you can gain 300000 sp per match everymatch for 3 months and gain all the sp dust has to offer, therefore a new player can cap out dust and stomp the rest of the player base.
YOU TUBES BEERCANATER PLUS BACON !
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BAMM HAVOC
Carbon 7
Iron Oxide.
640
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Posted - 2014.12.07 20:58:00 -
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slave 43343323 wrote:How much to buy your way into a PC Farming match?
2100 AUR grants you access
YOU TUBES BEERCANATER PLUS BACON !
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Kalante Schiffer
Ancient Exiles.
833
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Posted - 2014.12.07 21:15:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:PS4 is the only thing that can save this game.
Re-inventing it for Legion is too time consuming and resource intensive. Something CCP has never been good at managing for the long haul. It would take them around 7 years minimum, at the rate they work things out. Hilmar will lay them all off by then, because PS3 Dust will no longer be generating income and they will simply be an unattractive money sink at that point. Just like WoD was.
On the other hand, moving Dust to PS4, the actual existing game that isn't vaporware like WoD and Legion, will continue to generate income and draw in a massive playerbase of PS4 owners who want quite literally anything to play that they can get their hands on. That would give them a launch base to do whatever long term stuff they want to do on PC, as well as a stronger system to try out new things on. Imagine if they had started work on PS4 last year (or a bit later perhaps) instead of deciding to do Legion. Also considering the lack of (great) games on PS4 at this point. i know right there is like no good interesting games in ps4 right now.
AE.
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Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
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Posted - 2014.12.08 11:55:00 -
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BAMM HAVOC wrote:[quote=Ghosts Chance][quote=Viktor Hadah Jr][quote=Ghosts Chance]if you get somewhere around 45k SP in a match (before booster is applied) and have a booster active, then with instant boosters you can get about 200,000 sp
45000sp (original amount)
22500 SP (booster bonus
135000 (level 3 instant booster costing 2100 AUR)
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SP farming is not new, you have missed the point by a fair bit. what I am saying is that you can gain 300000 sp per match everymatch for 3 months and gain all the sp dust has to offer, therefore a new player can cap out dust and stomp the rest of the player base.
its not the new players that will be doing it :P its the "overcompensating for something" vets with acess to those juicy PC farming runs that will.
the vets get meaner and the new players still dont know how boosters work so wont figure this out to join them.
Minmatar is Winmatar
Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind"
I am Chances Ghost
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BAMM HAVOC
Carbon 7
Iron Oxide.
640
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Posted - 2014.12.08 12:18:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:BAMM HAVOC wrote:[quote=Ghosts Chance][quote=Viktor Hadah Jr][quote=Ghosts Chance]if you get somewhere around 45k SP in a match (before booster is applied) and have a booster active, then with instant boosters you can get about 200,000 sp
45000sp (original amount)
22500 SP (booster bonus
135000 (level 3 instant booster costing 2100 AUR)
quote]
SP farming is not new, you have missed the point by a fair bit. what I am saying is that you can gain 300000 sp per match everymatch for 3 months and gain all the sp dust has to offer, therefore a new player can cap out dust and stomp the rest of the player base.
its not the new players that will be doing it :P its the "overcompensating for something" vets with acess to those juicy PC farming runs that will. the vets get meaner and the new players still dont know how boosters work so wont figure this out to join them.
they will soon enough
YOU TUBES BEERCANATER PLUS BACON !
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