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Bendtner92 wrote:

Himiko Kuronaga wrote:

PS4 is the only thing that can save this game.

Re-inventing it for Legion is too time consuming and resource intensive. Something CCP has never been good at managing for the long haul. It would take them around 7 years minimum, at the rate they work things out. Hilmar will lay them all off by then, because PS3 Dust will no longer be generating income and they will simply be an unattractive money sink at that point. Just like WoD was.

On the other hand, moving Dust to PS4, the actual existing game that isn't vaporware like WoD and Legion, will continue to generate income and draw in a massive playerbase of PS4 owners who want quite literally anything to play that they can get their hands on. That would give them a launch base to do whatever long term stuff they want to do on PC, as well as a stronger system to try out new things on.

Imagine if they had started work on PS4 last year (or a bit later perhaps) instead of deciding to do Legion. Also considering the lack of (great) games on PS4 at this point.

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BAMM HAVOC Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 621	Posted - 2014.11.28 16:15:00 - [61] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: Your theories have little to no solid evidence to back them up. Please read : Solid Proof YOU TUBES BEERCANATER PLUS BACON !
GLOBAL fils'de RAGE Consolidated Dust 57	Posted - 2014.11.28 16:32:00 - [62] - Quote BAMM HAVOC wrote: Immortal John Ripper wrote: Some crazy stuff. Even after fanfest, It still surprises me that a company would so blatantly lie to their customers. little known fact .... The UI designer for EVE : Legion CCP Peanut, no longer works at CCP. This begs the question: What is going on with EVE : Legion ? Nothing. It was always Steam or SONY. A PC shooter based on UE3? Let's get the C# tools out..lol Facebook took Rift? SteamOS is a disaster, nevermind it's controller is MIA. SONY has the DUST servers already in their NOC's, and Morpheaus will soon be here. So the real question is what will dust be like in 1080 VR or 4k? If CCP want's to divest risk, that is a good thing. I won't comment on the cosmetics needed or even if CCP maybe a financial "two bagger". I support DUST financially, because I trully love this game. I also love SONY.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5336	Posted - 2014.11.28 17:38:00 - [63] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: So far, this entire series is extra tinfoily. To me what he is saying is either fairly close to the truth OR CCP is one of the worst companies at marketing in history. I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
BAMM HAVOC Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 638	Posted - 2014.12.07 10:21:00 - [64] - Quote DUST 514 : The 300 000 SP Exploit The Sober Version : The 300 000 SP Exploit YOU TUBES BEERCANATER PLUS BACON !
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact 6332	Posted - 2014.12.07 10:46:00 - [65] - Quote BAMM HAVOC wrote: DUST 514 : The 300 000 SP Exploit The Sober Version : The 300 000 SP Exploit I see no hard math or pic evidence behind the 300k SP claim in one match. You can boost for a lot of SP but claiming 300k is a bit much. NEG1 [Event] Dust Hunger Games PC, ISK,EVE, Corp Services
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2438	Posted - 2014.12.07 13:20:00 - [66] - Quote if you get somewhere around 45k SP in a match (before booster is applied) and have a booster active, then with instant boosters you can get about 200,000 sp 45000sp (original amount) 22500 SP (booster bonus 135000 (level 3 instant booster costing 2100 AUR) = 202500 ide like to note that said instant booster does not count towards your SP cap for the week either.... alowing you to do this a massive 16 and a half times. for 3375000 SP iin a week so Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
RogueTrooper 2000AD Neckbeard Absolution 357	Posted - 2014.12.07 14:18:00 - [67] - Quote What a load of tinfoil crap and hype. Bamm, get a phone that's open to all networks and a few hundred sims each month and be a self made parasite without this. Wansktain @ Rekt
BAMM HAVOC Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 639	Posted - 2014.12.07 14:33:00 - [68] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: if you get somewhere around 45k SP in a match (before booster is applied) and have a booster active, then with instant boosters you can get about 200,000 sp 45000sp (original amount) 22500 SP (booster bonus 135000 (level 3 instant booster costing 2100 AUR) = 202500 ide like to note that said instant booster does not count towards your SP cap for the week either.... alowing you to do this a massive 16 and a half times. for 3375000 SP iin a week so that's sounds about right. in short a new player can reach 240 mil sp in about 3 months, that means they will stomp the bitter vets into the ground, besides have you noticed how many 100mil sp players there are now? And they have only been playing for a few months. YOU TUBES BEERCANATER PLUS BACON !
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2439	Posted - 2014.12.07 14:35:00 - [69] - Quote BAMM HAVOC wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: if you get somewhere around 45k SP in a match (before booster is applied) and have a booster active, then with instant boosters you can get about 200,000 sp 45000sp (original amount) 22500 SP (booster bonus 135000 (level 3 instant booster costing 2100 AUR) = 202500 ide like to note that said instant booster does not count towards your SP cap for the week either.... alowing you to do this a massive 16 and a half times. for 3375000 SP iin a week so that's sounds about right. in short a new player can reach 240 mil sp in about 3 months, that means they will stomp the bitter vets into the ground, besides have you noticed how many 100mil sp players there are now? And they have only been playing for a few months. with omegas you can get 6mil SP in a week Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
slave 43343323 Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.12.07 14:44:00 - [70] - Quote 97 cents a match for 4 matches I can cap out with a buddy? Or does that not effect my cap and I can do that all day long?

Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2439	Posted - 2014.12.07 14:53:00 - [71] - Quote slave 43343323 wrote: 97 cents a match for 4 matches I can cap out with a buddy? Or does that not effect my cap and I can do that all day long? all day long Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2444	Posted - 2014.12.07 17:38:00 - [72] - Quote RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote: What a load of tinfoil crap and hype. Bamm, get a phone that's open to all networks and a few hundred sims each month and be a self made parasite without this. no with dedicated farming its legit. several unanmed PC folks are currently grabbing over 10k WPs in their own districts and pulling 300k-400k SP a game :P Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
RogueTrooper 2000AD Neckbeard Absolution 360	Posted - 2014.12.07 17:46:00 - [73] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote: What a load of tinfoil crap and hype. Bamm, get a phone that's open to all networks and a few hundred sims each month and be a self made parasite without this. no with dedicated farming its legit. several unanmed PC folks are currently grabbing over 10k WPs in their own districts and pulling 300k-400k SP a game :P What I stated was to do with bamms channel and relating to what he can do to boost CPM. And that's not the council I'm on about. Wansktain @ Rekt
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2444	Posted - 2014.12.07 17:47:00 - [74] - Quote RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote: What a load of tinfoil crap and hype. Bamm, get a phone that's open to all networks and a few hundred sims each month and be a self made parasite without this. no with dedicated farming its legit. several unanmed PC folks are currently grabbing over 10k WPs in their own districts and pulling 300k-400k SP a game :P What I stated was to do with bamms channel and relating to what he can do to boost CPM. And that's not the council I'm on about. ah sorry bout that Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact 6335	Posted - 2014.12.07 18:06:00 - [75] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: if you get somewhere around 45k SP in a match (before booster is applied) and have a booster active, then with instant boosters you can get about 200,000 sp 45000sp (original amount) 22500 SP (booster bonus 135000 (level 3 instant booster costing 2100 AUR) = 202500 ide like to note that said instant booster does not count towards your SP cap for the week either.... alowing you to do this a massive 16 and a half times. for 3375000 SP iin a week so To get that 45k original SP you would be required to gain around 20-21k War points. I have yet to seen any of these booster get that high. Do the math is someone got lets say 7k War points along with passive match SP it would come around lets say 16k original SP at end of match. NEG1 [Event] Dust Hunger Games PC, ISK,EVE, Corp Services
Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2444	Posted - 2014.12.07 18:13:00 - [76] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Ghosts Chance wrote: if you get somewhere around 45k SP in a match (before booster is applied) and have a booster active, then with instant boosters you can get about 200,000 sp 45000sp (original amount) 22500 SP (booster bonus 135000 (level 3 instant booster costing 2100 AUR) = 202500 ide like to note that said instant booster does not count towards your SP cap for the week either.... alowing you to do this a massive 16 and a half times. for 3375000 SP iin a week so To get that 45k original SP you would be required to gain around 20-21k War points. I have yet to seen any of these booster get that high. Do the math is someone got lets say 7k War points along with passive match SP it would come around lets say 16k original SP at end of match. i can farm around 100k in a farming match swapping from hacking to repping (repping is more WPs but once you hit the cap you have to swap to 4x complex hack mod rapid hacks) instructions - buy your way into a PC farming match - equip as many complex hacking modules as you can (minscout or logi ftw) and a rep tool - grab 3 partners (or 5 depending on the setup) - find an instalation - 2 hack while 2 shoot and 2 rep, rotate when reppers hit the cap -alturnativly if there is a kill farmer in your group then you just have 2 hack while everyone elsee reps the kill farmer for guarddian points untill they hit the cap then swap) you must be new to this. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
slave 43343323 Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2014.12.07 20:52:00 - [77] - Quote How much to buy your way into a PC Farming match?
BAMM HAVOC Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 640	Posted - 2014.12.07 20:57:00 - [78] - Quote [quote=Ghosts Chance][quote=Viktor Hadah Jr][quote=Ghosts Chance]if you get somewhere around 45k SP in a match (before booster is applied) and have a booster active, then with instant boosters you can get about 200,000 sp 45000sp (original amount) 22500 SP (booster bonus 135000 (level 3 instant booster costing 2100 AUR) quote] SP farming is not new, you have missed the point by a fair bit. what I am saying is that you can gain 300000 sp per match everymatch for 3 months and gain all the sp dust has to offer, therefore a new player can cap out dust and stomp the rest of the player base. YOU TUBES BEERCANATER PLUS BACON !
BAMM HAVOC Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 640	Posted - 2014.12.07 20:58:00 - [79] - Quote slave 43343323 wrote: How much to buy your way into a PC Farming match? 2100 AUR grants you access YOU TUBES BEERCANATER PLUS BACON !
Kalante Schiffer Ancient Exiles. 833	Posted - 2014.12.07 21:15:00 - [80] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: PS4 is the only thing that can save this game. Re-inventing it for Legion is too time consuming and resource intensive. Something CCP has never been good at managing for the long haul. It would take them around 7 years minimum, at the rate they work things out. Hilmar will lay them all off by then, because PS3 Dust will no longer be generating income and they will simply be an unattractive money sink at that point. Just like WoD was. On the other hand, moving Dust to PS4, the actual existing game that isn't vaporware like WoD and Legion, will continue to generate income and draw in a massive playerbase of PS4 owners who want quite literally anything to play that they can get their hands on. That would give them a launch base to do whatever long term stuff they want to do on PC, as well as a stronger system to try out new things on. Imagine if they had started work on PS4 last year (or a bit later perhaps) instead of deciding to do Legion. Also considering the lack of (great) games on PS4 at this point. i know right there is like no good interesting games in ps4 right now. AE.

Ghosts Chance Inf4m0us 2452	Posted - 2014.12.08 11:55:00 - [81] - Quote BAMM HAVOC wrote: [quote=Ghosts Chance][quote=Viktor Hadah Jr][quote=Ghosts Chance]if you get somewhere around 45k SP in a match (before booster is applied) and have a booster active, then with instant boosters you can get about 200,000 sp 45000sp (original amount) 22500 SP (booster bonus 135000 (level 3 instant booster costing 2100 AUR) quote] SP farming is not new, you have missed the point by a fair bit. what I am saying is that you can gain 300000 sp per match everymatch for 3 months and gain all the sp dust has to offer, therefore a new player can cap out dust and stomp the rest of the player base. its not the new players that will be doing it :P its the "overcompensating for something" vets with acess to those juicy PC farming runs that will. the vets get meaner and the new players still dont know how boosters work so wont figure this out to join them. Minmatar is Winmatar Creed of the Minja - "I'm a leaf on the wind" I am Chances Ghost
BAMM HAVOC Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 640	Posted - 2014.12.08 12:18:00 - [82] - Quote Ghosts Chance wrote: BAMM HAVOC wrote: [quote=Ghosts Chance][quote=Viktor Hadah Jr][quote=Ghosts Chance]if you get somewhere around 45k SP in a match (before booster is applied) and have a booster active, then with instant boosters you can get about 200,000 sp 45000sp (original amount) 22500 SP (booster bonus 135000 (level 3 instant booster costing 2100 AUR) quote] SP farming is not new, you have missed the point by a fair bit. what I am saying is that you can gain 300000 sp per match everymatch for 3 months and gain all the sp dust has to offer, therefore a new player can cap out dust and stomp the rest of the player base. its not the new players that will be doing it :P its the "overcompensating for something" vets with acess to those juicy PC farming runs that will. the vets get meaner and the new players still dont know how boosters work so wont figure this out to join them. they will soon enough YOU TUBES BEERCANATER PLUS BACON !


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