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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
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Posted - 2014.11.19 19:51:00 -
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Seriously, it seems like everyone just wants to tell me that I'm a scrub whilst saying how hardcore they are because they don't use a cloak. Not one person has given me a decent reason why they don't use a cloak; it's always 'cloak is for scrubs'. I get sick of this elitist bs. 'Oh, you don't use a cloak? I must avert my gaze, I am not worthy to look upon your clone! #toohardcore4me'. If someone asks me if I use cloak, I know exactly what's coming next: 'I don't use cloak because cloak is for scrubs omg git gud scrub lololololololololol!'. - _ - 'Oh, I'm sorry for using a piece of equipment that was designed for my role, and that I get a bonus to. Guess I'm just an idiot!'
Not using a cloak on a Scout is like not using a SCR/LR on an Amarr Assault, or not using Knives on a Min Scout, because then it becomes EEEEEEEZZZZZZZ mode!
Just please, stop the elitist bs. I use a cloak. Get. Over. It.
/endrant
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
4949
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Posted - 2014.11.19 19:55:00 -
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Scouts receive a bonus to fit cloaking modules... it's kind of their thing.
"Lol only scrubs use things intended for their dropsuit"
They probably only fit sidearms to their sentinels too 
My advice to you, playa...
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
14825
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Posted - 2014.11.19 19:56:00 -
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Issues are still abound with the cloak due to how it functions and how it easily becomes less of a tactical tool (equipment should be this) and more of a Short Range Weapons Delivery System.
Nothing wrong with the cloak itself but depending on who you ask..... but I liked Aeon's suggestion for cloaks.
"The moment passed in thunder and calamitous intent and yet no order was given to retreat or give their ground"
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
14825
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Posted - 2014.11.19 19:57:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Scouts receive a bonus to fit cloaking modules... it's kind of their thing. "Lol only scrubs use things intended for their dropsuit" They probably only fit sidearms to their sentinels too
To be fair though the cloak is the only module/equipment item specifically intended for use by one single dropsuit.
I mean how would a scout like it if Assault got Jump Jets and flew off every time they put one shotgun round into them?
"The moment passed in thunder and calamitous intent and yet no order was given to retreat or give their ground"
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Darrius Smithmage
68
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Posted - 2014.11.19 19:58:00 -
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I just use the cloak to hide and the other slot for a scanner so I can gain Intel and I see a east target I got for it with my bolt pistol
CalFW roleplayer I play for no one but the state. I rep no corp nor channel and they don't rep me Im a solo calfw vet.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
4949
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:00:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:To be fair though the cloak is the only module/equipment item specifically intended for use by one single dropsuit.
I mean how would a scout like it if Assault got Jump Jets and flew off every time they put one shotgun round into them? Then the jet pack would be a bit overpowered. I suggest giving it a 3.0s warm-up time before you lift off.
Cloaks have recently gotten a healthy nerf: the scan radius reduction and cloak delay's effects are tangible. I don't get insta-gibbed nearly as much and *GASP!* I sometimes survive scout encounters, even when they ambush me while cloaked.
If we can fix the dual tanking, wiggle strafe scouts then we will be in a good place.
My advice to you, playa...
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Mike Ox Bigger
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
469
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:12:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Scouts receive a bonus to fit cloaking modules... it's kind of their thing. "Lol only scrubs use things intended for their dropsuit" They probably only fit sidearms to their sentinels too
So am I doing it wrong when I run two sidearms on my Commando? |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
4950
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:14:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:So am I doing it wrong when I run two sidearms on my Commando? No. I call those Fat Banditos.
My advice to you, playa...
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
4630
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:23:00 -
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Because if you only do well with a cloak, you're a scrub.
I'm a scrub, and even I rarely use cloaks. |
Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
1807
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:27:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Scouts receive a bonus to fit cloaking modules... it's kind of their thing. "Lol only scrubs use things intended for their dropsuit" They probably only fit sidearms to their sentinels too
Real Sentinels rock that Tonberry fit. Nova Knives in both weapon slots in case one set short circuits. I lost my left eye to one. 
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Leadfoot10
molon labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2217
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:28:00 -
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People rage when they don't have (or haven't figured out) a counter. It's only natural.
Not saying I agree with those who use shame to eliminate a threat, but it's certainly one method to be used. |
Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
593
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Posted - 2014.11.19 21:35:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Seriously, it seems like everyone just wants to tell me that I'm a scrub whilst saying how hardcore they are because they don't use a cloak. Not one person has given me a decent reason why they don't use a cloak; it's always 'cloak is for scrubs'. I get sick of this elitist bs. 'Oh, you don't use a cloak? I must avert my gaze, I am not worthy to look upon your clone! #toohardcore4me'. If someone asks me if I use cloak, I know exactly what's coming next: 'I don't use cloak because cloak is for scrubs omg git gud scrub lololololololololol!'. - _ - 'Oh, I'm sorry for using a piece of equipment that was designed for my role, and that I get a bonus to. Guess I'm just an idiot!'
Not using a cloak on a Scout is like not using a SCR/LR on an Amarr Assault, or not using Knives on a Min Scout, because then it becomes EEEEEEEZZZZZZZ mode!
Just please, stop the elitist bs. I use a cloak. Get. Over. It.
/endrant
I just don't use it because uplinks and reps/ammo are more useful until they implement bandwidth 
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haak-kin kGÇÖlen.
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
2522
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Posted - 2014.11.19 21:43:00 -
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Because a lot of us developed fits and playstyles with the scouts way before they were OP or cloaks were invented.
A cloak is a good tool to use, if you like it use it. Just dont forget that there is possibly a lot more valuable pieces of equipment that you ~might~ want to think about using instead.
Don't worry about elitism, its everywhere.
"Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones"
"Guns for show, Knives for a pro"
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CharacterNameWasTaken
258
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Posted - 2014.11.19 21:56:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Scouts receive a bonus to fit cloaking modules... it's kind of their thing. "Lol only scrubs use things intended for their dropsuit" They probably only fit sidearms to their sentinels too To be fair though the cloak is the only module/equipment item specifically intended for use by one single dropsuit. I mean how would a scout like it if Assault got Jump Jets and flew off every time they put one shotgun round into them?
So darwinism? I would love that.
"Stop it the bouncing is making me uncomfortable" - Senji/Crow
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
2099
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Posted - 2014.11.19 22:14:00 -
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People deride scouts who cloak because it's perceived as OP. It's not REALLY OP. A very annoying power when people just appear behind me after I cleared the guard off a obby and get insta-killed by a invisible human.
If I wasn't a masochist, is run squads, and it wouldn't be a big issue.
Still annoying though. Very
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A hero.
Do you feel like one now?
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Riruodo
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
493
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Posted - 2014.11.19 22:20:00 -
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No cloaks for me. Personally, I think it was kind of a dumb idea for CCP to introduce cloaks (and expect them to be a logistical nightmare from here until Legion for them).
But I've got no problem with other players who use them.
See, the thing is, I die way too easily to people with cloaks. And to people with Proto suits. Or people with Assault Drop Ships. Nova Knives. Tanks. Rail Rifles. Anyone with 10 million sp or more. Squads. Q-syncers. Laser Rifles. Etc etc etc.
I've just come to accept that 1) I am somewhere in the top of the low tier and I'm going to be eaten alive by 85% of the Dust player base.
and 2) I'll never ever catch up to vets.
So I just play, and that's how it should be for most of us. So if you want to use cloaks go for it. Don't let anyone convince you otherwise if that's what you like to do.
but no, I will never use one.
Utena Tenjou is my prince in shining armor.
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
1116
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Posted - 2014.11.19 23:04:00 -
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We're better than you and we know it.
Your game f'ing sucks, but I'll still play it, damn you! Turns out I wont.
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Henrietta Unknown
Kirjuun Heiian
494
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Posted - 2014.11.19 23:14:00 -
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The cloak has its uses and drawbacks, like everything in this game. I find it useful for crossing open ground when there is no other way to reach the objective. It's not like I'm going to give those randomly scattered assaults easy kills.
On the other hand, it serves little purpose in city maps.
Give the Magsex some love.
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Lloyd Orfay
SHAKING BABIES
FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE
223
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Posted - 2014.11.19 23:36:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Seriously, it seems like everyone just wants to tell me that I'm a scrub whilst saying how hardcore they are because they don't use a cloak. Not one person has given me a decent reason why they don't use a cloak; it's always 'cloak is for scrubs'. I get sick of this elitist bs. 'Oh, you don't use a cloak? I must avert my gaze, I am not worthy to look upon your clone! #toohardcore4me'. If someone asks me if I use cloak, I know exactly what's coming next: 'I don't use cloak because cloak is for scrubs omg git gud scrub lololololololololol!'. - _ - 'Oh, I'm sorry for using a piece of equipment that was designed for my role, and that I get a bonus to. Guess I'm just an idiot!'
Not using a cloak on a Scout is like not using a SCR/LR on an Amarr Assault, or not using Knives on a Min Scout, because then it becomes EEEEEEEZZZZZZZ mode!
Just please, stop the elitist bs. I use a cloak. Get. Over. It.
/endrant
It's a simple change, but in dust when people can see nearly forever, no cloak can get pretty hard.
Though, Amarr Assault and Min scout, SCR/LR Knives or not is generally easy mode.
A lot of scouts at advanced, same for assaults are easy mode.
A simple change like not exploiting a suit skill bonuses doesn't mean you are some gamer plebian, because even when no cloak use does get hard don't forget scouts can excel in nearly anything they want to.
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Forlorn Destrier
Havok Dynasty
3013
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Posted - 2014.11.19 23:40:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Scouts receive a bonus to fit cloaking modules... it's kind of their thing. "Lol only scrubs use things intended for their dropsuit" They probably only fit sidearms to their sentinels too To be fair though the cloak is the only module/equipment item specifically intended for use by one single dropsuit. I mean how would a scout like it if Assault got Jump Jets and flew off every time they put one shotgun round into them?
Not exactly right.
A cloak can be used on any suit that can fit it (I've seen logi and assaults use it). That said, an HMG or Forge can only go an heavy or sentinel suits.
I am the Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
2099
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Posted - 2014.11.19 23:59:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:True Adamance wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Scouts receive a bonus to fit cloaking modules... it's kind of their thing. "Lol only scrubs use things intended for their dropsuit" They probably only fit sidearms to their sentinels too To be fair though the cloak is the only module/equipment item specifically intended for use by one single dropsuit. I mean how would a scout like it if Assault got Jump Jets and flew off every time they put one shotgun round into them? Not exactly right. A cloak can be used on any suit that can fit it (I've seen logi and assaults use it). That said, an HMG or Forge can only go an heavy or sentinel suits.
You got 160 CPU lying around on any suit you have?
Because you wanted to be something you're not.
A hero.
Do you feel like one now?
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
17770
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Posted - 2014.11.20 00:04:00 -
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1.6 scouts had a level of pride due to the amount of suffering they went though.
150 hp
perma scanned
no cloaks.
Yet there were still scouts that stabbed their ways through entire masses.
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
6006
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Posted - 2014.11.20 00:10:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:1.6 scouts had a level of pride due to the amount of suffering they went though.
150 hp
perma scanned
no cloaks.
Yet there were still scouts that stabbed their ways through entire masses.
And often died many many deaths...
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
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Thokk Nightshade
Montana Militia
700
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Posted - 2014.11.20 00:15:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:We're better than you and we know it.
Do you work for GloboGym?
I hope that is a reference to Dodgeball at least. 
Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
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Mike Ox Bigger
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
472
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Posted - 2014.11.20 00:33:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:1.6 scouts had a level of pride due to the amount of suffering they went though.
150 hp
perma scanned
no cloaks.
Yet there were still scouts that stabbed their ways through entire masses.
Back then most good scouts would go like 30-15. It wasn't very profitable. Running scout was more like showing off. |
LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
861
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Posted - 2014.11.20 00:41:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:1.6 scouts had a level of pride due to the amount of suffering they went though.
150 hp
perma scanned
no cloaks.
Yet there were still scouts that stabbed their ways through entire masses. Back then most good scouts would go like 30-15. It wasn't very profitable. Running scout was more like showing off.
Lol sike.
Even I did better, and I never ran Proto or Galscout, I can guarantee ShottyGoBang, Lightning, musturd, and many others could do better regularly.
Quafe
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
1117
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Posted - 2014.11.20 00:51:00 -
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Thokk Nightshade wrote:Henchmen21 wrote:We're better than you and we know it. Do you work for GloboGym? I hope that is a reference to Dodgeball at least.
Yes I am glad somebody got it, otherwise I just sound like an ass. 
I do dislike cloaks on scouts but not to that extent.
Your game f'ing sucks, but I'll still play it, damn you! Turns out I wont.
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Michael Arck
6063
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Posted - 2014.11.20 01:03:00 -
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Add 1 teaspoon of annoyance
Add 3 tablespoons of group think
Add 2 tablespoons of adaptability refusal
Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah
*Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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VikingKong iBUN
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
218
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Posted - 2014.11.20 01:06:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Scouts receive a bonus to fit cloaking modules... it's kind of their thing. "Lol only scrubs use things intended for their dropsuit" They probably only fit sidearms to their sentinels too To be fair though the cloak is the only module/equipment item specifically intended for use by one single dropsuit. I mean how would a scout like it if Assault got Jump Jets and flew off every time they put one shotgun round into them?
Jump Jets to fly away from scouts? We need this. |
Mike Ox Bigger
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
473
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Posted - 2014.11.20 01:16:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Mike Ox Bigger wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:1.6 scouts had a level of pride due to the amount of suffering they went though.
150 hp
perma scanned
no cloaks.
Yet there were still scouts that stabbed their ways through entire masses. Back then most good scouts would go like 30-15. It wasn't very profitable. Running scout was more like showing off. Lol sike. Even I did better, and I never ran Proto or Galscout, I can guarantee ShottyGoBang, Lightning, musturd, and many others could do better regularly.
You're talking about some of the best scouts in the game. I said most good scouts not the elite :) I know all those guys were good but scouts were extremely hard mode back in the day. |
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
5985
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Posted - 2014.11.20 02:42:00 -
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No cloak elitism is actually a response to scout elitism which became majorly popular after the cloak was released because then everyone who had sucked with the scout suddenly became decent and these new scouts thought themselves better than other suits because they still thought that scouts were hard to use because of old Dust history. Even though now scouts are easily the easiest suits to learn how to use.
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And wave them side to side.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
the unholy legion of darkstar
DARKSTAR ARMY
101
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Posted - 2014.11.20 03:48:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Seriously, it seems like everyone just wants to tell me that I'm a scrub whilst saying how hardcore they are because they don't use a cloak. Not one person has given me a decent reason why they don't use a cloak; it's always 'cloak is for scrubs'. I get sick of this elitist bs. 'Oh, you don't use a cloak? I must avert my gaze, I am not worthy to look upon your clone! #toohardcore4me'. If someone asks me if I use cloak, I know exactly what's coming next: 'I don't use cloak because cloak is for scrubs omg git gud scrub lololololololololol!'. - _ - 'Oh, I'm sorry for using a piece of equipment that was designed for my role, and that I get a bonus to. Guess I'm just an idiot!'
Not using a cloak on a Scout is like not using a SCR/LR on an Amarr Assault, or not using Knives on a Min Scout, because then it becomes EEEEEEEZZZZZZZ mode!
Just please, stop the elitist bs. I use a cloak. Get. Over. It.
/endrant
You answered your own question. Cloak is for scrubs. You and just about anyone that wants to bother can easily do sh*t with it. Nothing special, fundamentally changes the kind of game this is otherwise attempting to be and rewards lazy, power playing ret*rds. The game was fine without it. Plenty of people were willing to run ninja tactics. It is as if Goodwill provided free shipping and a pickup service for your used, unwanted crap instead of you driving to dump it yourself.
I have no respect for that kind of person. Hopefully, this player base can be quality enough to agree with that and be a cut above the trash.
I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
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Finn Colman
Immortal Guides
60
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Posted - 2014.11.20 04:00:00 -
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I've never done this directly, personally I just feel that there are better uses of the CPU and PG for me. The cloak just isn't for me.
The little Min with the little voice.
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Pvt Numnutz
Prophets of the Velocirapture
1975
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Posted - 2014.11.20 05:56:00 -
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Probably because all the good scout players used scouts when they were more scout and less assault and didn't have cloaks. Could also have something to do with how bs remotes are and if your not fitting them your a scrub. I dunno, take your pick.
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Kaalaka dakka tamer
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Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
345
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Posted - 2014.11.20 06:16:00 -
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Despite changes, the cloak is just broken in different ways people that do not use it play the same game as everyone else while cloak users do not.
Side note: all of the changes meant to effect scouts have been not only ineffectual, but seemingly counter productive worse their are more to come. I wouldn't worry though the added shield penalty might finally kill no cloak scouts and in turn side arm scouts. So instead of restricting scouts to side arms everyone gets to play scout how they want if they are cloaked shotguners.
The Impossible Dream-Wizard Talk @MMoMerc
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The Master Race
Immortal Guides
347
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Posted - 2014.11.20 06:16:00 -
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Despite changes, the cloak is just broken in different ways people that do not use it play the same game as everyone else while cloak users do not.
Side note: all of the changes meant to effect scouts have been not only ineffectual, but seemingly counter productive worse there are more to come. I wouldn't worry about it to much though the added shield penalty might finally kill no cloak scouts and in turn side arm scouts. So instead of restricting scouts to side arms everyone gets to play scout the way they want as long as what they want is to play a cloaked shotgun scout.
The Impossible Dream-Wizard Talk @MMoMerc
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Vicious Minotaur
1362
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Posted - 2014.11.20 06:39:00 -
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I don't see any of this elitism. Maybe my missing eye has something to do with it.
Regardless, I have stated and will continue to state that I run all of my scouts without a cloak, not out of some elitist attitude, but rather context. There is a distinct difference between those that cloak and those that do not, just like there is a difference between running two sidearms vs. running a rifle/sidearm combo.
Contrary to popular belief among many here in GD, fittings matter. And last I checked, cloaks are something you fit.
I am a minotaur.
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Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
1015
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Posted - 2014.11.20 07:07:00 -
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Remember mgs 2 when you had to getting 198 unique I.d tags to unlock stealth camouflage? By the time you unlocked it you were so familiar with the game and its nuances you were basically using it for fun? Intro cloak field: the scout tool that good scouts don't need and that pissy scouts use to keep pace.
Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
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Jathniel
G I A N T
1277
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Posted - 2014.11.20 07:39:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Seriously, it seems like everyone just wants to tell me that I'm a scrub whilst saying how hardcore they are because they don't use a cloak. Not one person has given me a decent reason why they don't use a cloak; it's always 'cloak is for scrubs'. I get sick of this elitist bs. 'Oh, you don't use a cloak? I must avert my gaze, I am not worthy to look upon your clone! #toohardcore4me'. If someone asks me if I use cloak, I know exactly what's coming next: 'I don't use cloak because cloak is for scrubs omg git gud scrub lololololololololol!'. - _ - 'Oh, I'm sorry for using a piece of equipment that was designed for my role, and that I get a bonus to. Guess I'm just an idiot!'
Not using a cloak on a Scout is like not using a SCR/LR on an Amarr Assault, or not using Knives on a Min Scout, because then it becomes EEEEEEEZZZZZZZ mode!
Just please, stop the elitist bs. I use a cloak. Get. Over. It.
/endrant
The best one is "No cloak! Only nova knife! Thuggin'4life! Word!"
get real
Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
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Ryme Intrinseca
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
2048
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Posted - 2014.11.20 07:46:00 -
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You get two SG blasts off while you're still cloaked, which is contrary to Rattati's stated intentions and obviously broken. It is similar to running people over in a LLAV in 2013 - yes it is effective, but it is also scrubby. |
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
2649
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Posted - 2014.11.20 08:26:00 -
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Because being the Scout that flanks the opponents and shoots them is objectively easier with a Cloak than without one. That is why people will say they are better because they don't use one. It is the same concept behind the person that doesn't use power tools to build a desk because "it just makes it easier." To paraphrase Preacher: "we are going to do it the easy way, not because we are lazy but because we are smart. Morons do things the hard way just because they are harder."
The other is the concept of "I did this for so long and now that it is the popular thing, I look like I am getting in on the bandwagon." This happened in the change to 1.7 from 1.6; "I have been Tanking for a year but now that it is so much better everyone is doing it and I look like a FotM chaser! Uhh, real Tankers don't use Blasters!" Wait, Railguns are getting all the hate? "Real Tankers don't use Railguns!"
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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The Master Race
Immortal Guides
347
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Posted - 2014.11.20 08:35:00 -
[42] - Quote
Cheat codes and hacks are pretty easy also, but why don't we use them? It is easier isn't it.
The Impossible Dream-Wizard Talk @MMoMerc
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Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
347
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Posted - 2014.11.20 08:35:00 -
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Cheat codes and hacks are pretty easy also, but why don't we use them? It is easier isn't it.
The Impossible Dream-Wizard Talk @MMoMerc
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THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution
1192
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Posted - 2014.11.20 08:39:00 -
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Cloaks don't win matches. Uplinks, nanohives and nanite injectors win matches.
That is all.
Amarrica!
killed again has ebola
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
2650
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Posted - 2014.11.20 08:40:00 -
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Blueprint For Murder wrote:Cheat codes and hacks are pretty easy also, but why don't we use them? It is easier isn't it.
The line originated from one of World of Warcraft's two different play styles of a given class. A was more difficult to do than B but both did X DPS. Ergo, using A was not the lazy choice but the smarter one. Obviously, you can expand it past the argument of 'don't use Cloaks because it is harder' is silly you can get into slippery slope fallacy of "well, it is easier to steal than work so why don't you do that?!"
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
353
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Posted - 2014.11.20 08:42:00 -
[46] - Quote
I only started using cloaks when these elitist attitudes popped up...
Before then I was a light frame w/ shotty. It was easy believe it or not...
"There is only one thing I regret, that is only giving one life to my state." - Viktor Revon
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The Master Race
Immortal Guides
347
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Posted - 2014.11.20 08:43:00 -
[47] - Quote
We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too. - JFK
The Impossible Dream-Wizard Talk @MMoMerc
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Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
347
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Posted - 2014.11.20 08:43:00 -
[48] - Quote
We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too. - JFK
I get it though this nearly skill less play style is not only allowed, but it is promoted for what ever reason so why not.
The Impossible Dream-Wizard Talk @MMoMerc
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
2652
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Posted - 2014.11.20 09:05:00 -
[49] - Quote
Blueprint For Murder wrote:We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too. - JFK
I get it though this nearly skill less play style is not only allowed, but it is promoted for what ever reason so why not.
Yes, I am aware of the quote. The "we do this not because we are lazy but because we are smart" is a reference to that quote. That being said;
Equating using a Scout without a Cloak to Kennedy's declaration about going to the moon is absolutely hysterical.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
6034
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Posted - 2014.11.20 09:14:00 -
[50] - Quote
Why do you care what the people you don't like say about you?
NEG1
EVE 21 Day Trial
Viktor's 3rd Party Services
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Mad Syringe
ReDust Inc.
331
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Posted - 2014.11.20 10:22:00 -
[51] - Quote
Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:Why do you care what the people you don't like say about you?
Most intelligent sentence I've read in this forum so far!
Dedicated Minmando Masshole with love for Swarmholing... Not playing logi that much anymore... which is a shame...
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Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
347
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Posted - 2014.11.20 10:33:00 -
[52] - Quote
Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Blueprint For Murder wrote:We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too. - JFK
I get it though this nearly skill less play style is not only allowed, but it is promoted for what ever reason so why not. Yes, I am aware of the quote. The "we do this not because we are lazy but because we are smart" is a reference to that quote. That being said; Equating using a Scout without a Cloak to Kennedy's declaration about going to the moon is absolutely hysterical.
Ikr Pot meet kettle :D I know you were only quoting, but the quote was the reason I posted this. I felt it was a insult to JFK and wanted to make sure everyone was able to read the quote unsullied.
The Impossible Dream-Wizard Talk @MMoMerc
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The Master Race
Immortal Guides
358
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Posted - 2014.11.20 10:33:00 -
[53] - Quote
Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Blueprint For Murder wrote:We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too. - JFK
I get it though this nearly skill less play style is not only allowed, but it is promoted for what ever reason so why not. Yes, I am aware of the quote. The "we do this not because we are lazy but because we are smart" is a reference to that quote. That being said; Equating using a Scout without a Cloak to Kennedy's declaration about going to the moon is absolutely hysterical.
Ikr Pot meet kettle :D I know you were only quoting, but the quote was the reason I posted this. I felt it was a insult to JFK and wanted to make sure everyone was able to read the quote unsullied.
The Impossible Dream-Wizard Talk @MMoMerc
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Sclompton Face-Smasher
uptown456
152
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Posted - 2014.11.20 12:19:00 -
[54] - Quote
sir RAVEN WING wrote:I only started using cloaks when these elitist attitudes popped up...
Before then I was a light frame w/ shotty. It was easy believe it or not...
I had 2 points in scouts when it was brought in.
Playstyle: Scout~Passionate In-bred Sniper~Support~Enemy finder
Weapon: Pro SG~SR~SMG~NK~ScR
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Luna McDuffing
COALICION LATINA
Top Men.
95
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Posted - 2014.11.20 14:09:00 -
[55] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Scouts receive a bonus to fit cloaking modules... it's kind of their thing. "Lol only scrubs use things intended for their dropsuit" They probably only fit sidearms to their sentinels too To be fair though the cloak is the only module/equipment item specifically intended for use by one single dropsuit. I mean how would a scout like it if Assault got Jump Jets and flew off every time they put one shotgun round into them?
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Kaze Eyrou
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
973
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Posted - 2014.11.20 14:44:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:1.6 scouts had a level of pride due to the amount of suffering they went though.
150 hp
perma scanned
no cloaks.
Yet there were still scouts that stabbed their ways through entire masses.
Would you say they were...
Stabbing Westward?
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CIO ("Proto Forum Warrior")
Learning Coalition & RTG
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Maken Tosch
Dust University
Ivy League
10292
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Posted - 2014.11.20 15:14:00 -
[57] - Quote
I only use a cloak if I absolutely have to for a given situation. Thankfully, that situation has yet to present itself. I don't really see it as a scrub tool because the scout suit is designed to take advantage of the cloak.
Anyways, I just don't use it anymore because it has certain disadvantages that don't make it ideal for me anymore. The shimmer it makes when you move at all is the primary reason I don't use it anymore. It's not apparent in a brightly-lit setting, but when you're in a dark area where the shimmer has a high contrast against it then you become lit up like a Christmas Tree in New York City.
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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
675
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Posted - 2014.11.20 16:23:00 -
[58] - Quote
Likes have been dispensed
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Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
Dreis - pronounced like 'maize'
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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
335
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Posted - 2014.11.20 16:42:00 -
[59] - Quote
Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Seriously, it seems like everyone just wants to tell me that I'm a scrub whilst saying how hardcore they are because they don't use a cloak. Not one person has given me a decent reason why they don't use a cloak; it's always 'cloak is for scrubs'. I get sick of this elitist bs. 'Oh, you don't use a cloak? I must avert my gaze, I am not worthy to look upon your clone! #toohardcore4me'. If someone asks me if I use cloak, I know exactly what's coming next: 'I don't use cloak because cloak is for scrubs omg git gud scrub lololololololololol!'. - _ - 'Oh, I'm sorry for using a piece of equipment that was designed for my role, and that I get a bonus to. Guess I'm just an idiot!'
Not using a cloak on a Scout is like not using a SCR/LR on an Amarr Assault, or not using Knives on a Min Scout, because then it becomes EEEEEEEZZZZZZZ mode!
Just please, stop the elitist bs. I use a cloak. Get. Over. It.
/endrant
If I don't use cloak and die a lot it's ok because I'm hardcore
The Best Worst game you can't stop playing..... DUST
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Forlorn Destrier
Havok Dynasty
3016
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Posted - 2014.11.20 18:46:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:True Adamance wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Scouts receive a bonus to fit cloaking modules... it's kind of their thing. "Lol only scrubs use things intended for their dropsuit" They probably only fit sidearms to their sentinels too To be fair though the cloak is the only module/equipment item specifically intended for use by one single dropsuit. I mean how would a scout like it if Assault got Jump Jets and flew off every time they put one shotgun round into them? Not exactly right. A cloak can be used on any suit that can fit it (I've seen logi and assaults use it). That said, an HMG or Forge can only go an heavy or sentinel suits. You got 160 CPU lying around on any suit you have?
Yes, it can be done. I've done it, and as I said I've seen others do it.
I am the Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning
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First Prophet
Nos Nothi
1946
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Posted - 2014.11.20 20:12:00 -
[61] - Quote
Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:
Not using a cloak on a Scout is like not using Knives on a Min Scout
As a dedicated Matari Scout, screw using those unreliable, EVE-Mart clearance bin, squid based, grill sticks.
Matari suits should be used with reliable, trustworthy, Matari tech.
My Scout MK.0 don't want none,
Unless it's got rust, hun.
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Kira Takizawa
The Exemplars
Top Men.
238
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Posted - 2014.11.21 11:09:00 -
[62] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:1.6 scouts had a level of pride due to the amount of suffering they went though.
150 hp
perma scanned
no cloaks.
Yet there were still scouts that stabbed their ways through entire masses.
Still have that pride no one will take it away not these new scouts, heavies, CCP, or even musturd! In rust I trust! |
Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
2040
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Posted - 2014.11.21 11:17:00 -
[63] - Quote
Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Seriously, it seems like everyone just wants to tell me that I'm a scrub whilst saying how hardcore they are because they don't use a cloak. Not one person has given me a decent reason why they don't use a cloak; it's always 'cloak is for scrubs'. I get sick of this elitist bs. 'Oh, you don't use a cloak? I must avert my gaze, I am not worthy to look upon your clone! #toohardcore4me'. If someone asks me if I use cloak, I know exactly what's coming next: 'I don't use cloak because cloak is for scrubs omg git gud scrub lololololololololol!'. - _ - 'Oh, I'm sorry for using a piece of equipment that was designed for my role, and that I get a bonus to. Guess I'm just an idiot!'
Not using a cloak on a Scout is like not using a SCR/LR on an Amarr Assault, or not using Knives on a Min Scout, because then it becomes EEEEEEEZZZZZZZ mode!
Just please, stop the elitist bs. I use a cloak. Get. Over. It.
/endrant
tbh cloaks were bad, since the introduction of cloaks the amount of scouts had increased like 4 fold (original number x2 then x2 then x2 then x2)
and only way to combat scouts was more scouts because active scanners had become crap.. the active scanner changes came too late.. and having focused scanner limited to squad only was just because of CCPs favoured child (SCOUTS) being whiney B****es and QQing like hell to have it changed
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Union118
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2014.11.21 16:54:00 -
[64] - Quote
Make it easier to see a running invis scout cuz when they go invis they shimmer for a bit and then completely go invis right infront of me. All traces are lost even when they run in front of me on a open field. Kinda to much of a disadvantage even if they are light on armor n shields.
Starter Fit Suits are OP :-)
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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
1320
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Posted - 2014.11.21 18:20:00 -
[65] - Quote
Cloaks aren't scruby. If they are the same could be said about HMG's and BrAR and Sentinels
Pokemon master and Tekken Lord
Gk0 Scout yay :)
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9242
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Posted - 2014.11.21 19:57:00 -
[66] - Quote
A little experience fitting the scout and playing around with it will tell you why some people think they are superior for not using the cloak. If you get scanned, a red chevron appears over your head (opposed to simply on radar) so the cloak has no use if you aren't dampening as well. But to dampen means removing an armor plate for tank scouts which is the current meta for try hards.
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