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Dreis Shadowweaver
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
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Posted - 2014.11.19 19:51:00 -
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Seriously, it seems like everyone just wants to tell me that I'm a scrub whilst saying how hardcore they are because they don't use a cloak. Not one person has given me a decent reason why they don't use a cloak; it's always 'cloak is for scrubs'. I get sick of this elitist bs. 'Oh, you don't use a cloak? I must avert my gaze, I am not worthy to look upon your clone! #toohardcore4me'. If someone asks me if I use cloak, I know exactly what's coming next: 'I don't use cloak because cloak is for scrubs omg git gud scrub lololololololololol!'. - _ - 'Oh, I'm sorry for using a piece of equipment that was designed for my role, and that I get a bonus to. Guess I'm just an idiot!'
Not using a cloak on a Scout is like not using a SCR/LR on an Amarr Assault, or not using Knives on a Min Scout, because then it becomes EEEEEEEZZZZZZZ mode!
Just please, stop the elitist bs. I use a cloak. Get. Over. It.
/endrant
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
Dreis - pronounced like 'maize'
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
4949
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Posted - 2014.11.19 19:55:00 -
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Scouts receive a bonus to fit cloaking modules... it's kind of their thing.
"Lol only scrubs use things intended for their dropsuit"
They probably only fit sidearms to their sentinels too 
My advice to you, playa...
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
14825
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Posted - 2014.11.19 19:56:00 -
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Issues are still abound with the cloak due to how it functions and how it easily becomes less of a tactical tool (equipment should be this) and more of a Short Range Weapons Delivery System.
Nothing wrong with the cloak itself but depending on who you ask..... but I liked Aeon's suggestion for cloaks.
"The moment passed in thunder and calamitous intent and yet no order was given to retreat or give their ground"
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
14825
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Posted - 2014.11.19 19:57:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Scouts receive a bonus to fit cloaking modules... it's kind of their thing. "Lol only scrubs use things intended for their dropsuit" They probably only fit sidearms to their sentinels too
To be fair though the cloak is the only module/equipment item specifically intended for use by one single dropsuit.
I mean how would a scout like it if Assault got Jump Jets and flew off every time they put one shotgun round into them?
"The moment passed in thunder and calamitous intent and yet no order was given to retreat or give their ground"
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Darrius Smithmage
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Posted - 2014.11.19 19:58:00 -
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I just use the cloak to hide and the other slot for a scanner so I can gain Intel and I see a east target I got for it with my bolt pistol
CalFW roleplayer I play for no one but the state. I rep no corp nor channel and they don't rep me Im a solo calfw vet.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
4949
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:00:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:To be fair though the cloak is the only module/equipment item specifically intended for use by one single dropsuit.
I mean how would a scout like it if Assault got Jump Jets and flew off every time they put one shotgun round into them? Then the jet pack would be a bit overpowered. I suggest giving it a 3.0s warm-up time before you lift off.
Cloaks have recently gotten a healthy nerf: the scan radius reduction and cloak delay's effects are tangible. I don't get insta-gibbed nearly as much and *GASP!* I sometimes survive scout encounters, even when they ambush me while cloaked.
If we can fix the dual tanking, wiggle strafe scouts then we will be in a good place.
My advice to you, playa...
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Mike Ox Bigger
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
469
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:12:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Scouts receive a bonus to fit cloaking modules... it's kind of their thing. "Lol only scrubs use things intended for their dropsuit" They probably only fit sidearms to their sentinels too
So am I doing it wrong when I run two sidearms on my Commando? |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
4950
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:14:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:So am I doing it wrong when I run two sidearms on my Commando? No. I call those Fat Banditos.
My advice to you, playa...
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
4630
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:23:00 -
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Because if you only do well with a cloak, you're a scrub.
I'm a scrub, and even I rarely use cloaks. |
Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
1807
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:27:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Scouts receive a bonus to fit cloaking modules... it's kind of their thing. "Lol only scrubs use things intended for their dropsuit" They probably only fit sidearms to their sentinels too
Real Sentinels rock that Tonberry fit. Nova Knives in both weapon slots in case one set short circuits. I lost my left eye to one. 
Kills:21, Deaths:5, KDR: time for a smoke.
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Leadfoot10
molon labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2217
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:28:00 -
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People rage when they don't have (or haven't figured out) a counter. It's only natural.
Not saying I agree with those who use shame to eliminate a threat, but it's certainly one method to be used. |
Stupid Blueberry
Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm
593
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Posted - 2014.11.19 21:35:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Seriously, it seems like everyone just wants to tell me that I'm a scrub whilst saying how hardcore they are because they don't use a cloak. Not one person has given me a decent reason why they don't use a cloak; it's always 'cloak is for scrubs'. I get sick of this elitist bs. 'Oh, you don't use a cloak? I must avert my gaze, I am not worthy to look upon your clone! #toohardcore4me'. If someone asks me if I use cloak, I know exactly what's coming next: 'I don't use cloak because cloak is for scrubs omg git gud scrub lololololololololol!'. - _ - 'Oh, I'm sorry for using a piece of equipment that was designed for my role, and that I get a bonus to. Guess I'm just an idiot!'
Not using a cloak on a Scout is like not using a SCR/LR on an Amarr Assault, or not using Knives on a Min Scout, because then it becomes EEEEEEEZZZZZZZ mode!
Just please, stop the elitist bs. I use a cloak. Get. Over. It.
/endrant
I just don't use it because uplinks and reps/ammo are more useful until they implement bandwidth 
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Haak-kin kGÇÖlen.
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
2522
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Posted - 2014.11.19 21:43:00 -
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Because a lot of us developed fits and playstyles with the scouts way before they were OP or cloaks were invented.
A cloak is a good tool to use, if you like it use it. Just dont forget that there is possibly a lot more valuable pieces of equipment that you ~might~ want to think about using instead.
Don't worry about elitism, its everywhere.
"Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones"
"Guns for show, Knives for a pro"
MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
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CharacterNameWasTaken
258
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Posted - 2014.11.19 21:56:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Scouts receive a bonus to fit cloaking modules... it's kind of their thing. "Lol only scrubs use things intended for their dropsuit" They probably only fit sidearms to their sentinels too To be fair though the cloak is the only module/equipment item specifically intended for use by one single dropsuit. I mean how would a scout like it if Assault got Jump Jets and flew off every time they put one shotgun round into them?
So darwinism? I would love that.
"Stop it the bouncing is making me uncomfortable" - Senji/Crow
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
2099
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Posted - 2014.11.19 22:14:00 -
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People deride scouts who cloak because it's perceived as OP. It's not REALLY OP. A very annoying power when people just appear behind me after I cleared the guard off a obby and get insta-killed by a invisible human.
If I wasn't a masochist, is run squads, and it wouldn't be a big issue.
Still annoying though. Very
Because you wanted to be something you're not.
A hero.
Do you feel like one now?
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Riruodo
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
493
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Posted - 2014.11.19 22:20:00 -
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No cloaks for me. Personally, I think it was kind of a dumb idea for CCP to introduce cloaks (and expect them to be a logistical nightmare from here until Legion for them).
But I've got no problem with other players who use them.
See, the thing is, I die way too easily to people with cloaks. And to people with Proto suits. Or people with Assault Drop Ships. Nova Knives. Tanks. Rail Rifles. Anyone with 10 million sp or more. Squads. Q-syncers. Laser Rifles. Etc etc etc.
I've just come to accept that 1) I am somewhere in the top of the low tier and I'm going to be eaten alive by 85% of the Dust player base.
and 2) I'll never ever catch up to vets.
So I just play, and that's how it should be for most of us. So if you want to use cloaks go for it. Don't let anyone convince you otherwise if that's what you like to do.
but no, I will never use one.
Utena Tenjou is my prince in shining armor.
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Michael Fassbender for male market agent.
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
1116
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Posted - 2014.11.19 23:04:00 -
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We're better than you and we know it.
Your game f'ing sucks, but I'll still play it, damn you! Turns out I wont.
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Henrietta Unknown
Kirjuun Heiian
494
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Posted - 2014.11.19 23:14:00 -
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The cloak has its uses and drawbacks, like everything in this game. I find it useful for crossing open ground when there is no other way to reach the objective. It's not like I'm going to give those randomly scattered assaults easy kills.
On the other hand, it serves little purpose in city maps.
Give the Magsex some love.
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Lloyd Orfay
SHAKING BABIES
FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE
223
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Posted - 2014.11.19 23:36:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:Seriously, it seems like everyone just wants to tell me that I'm a scrub whilst saying how hardcore they are because they don't use a cloak. Not one person has given me a decent reason why they don't use a cloak; it's always 'cloak is for scrubs'. I get sick of this elitist bs. 'Oh, you don't use a cloak? I must avert my gaze, I am not worthy to look upon your clone! #toohardcore4me'. If someone asks me if I use cloak, I know exactly what's coming next: 'I don't use cloak because cloak is for scrubs omg git gud scrub lololololololololol!'. - _ - 'Oh, I'm sorry for using a piece of equipment that was designed for my role, and that I get a bonus to. Guess I'm just an idiot!'
Not using a cloak on a Scout is like not using a SCR/LR on an Amarr Assault, or not using Knives on a Min Scout, because then it becomes EEEEEEEZZZZZZZ mode!
Just please, stop the elitist bs. I use a cloak. Get. Over. It.
/endrant
It's a simple change, but in dust when people can see nearly forever, no cloak can get pretty hard.
Though, Amarr Assault and Min scout, SCR/LR Knives or not is generally easy mode.
A lot of scouts at advanced, same for assaults are easy mode.
A simple change like not exploiting a suit skill bonuses doesn't mean you are some gamer plebian, because even when no cloak use does get hard don't forget scouts can excel in nearly anything they want to.
You're just being smart player. |
Forlorn Destrier
Havok Dynasty
3013
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Posted - 2014.11.19 23:40:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Scouts receive a bonus to fit cloaking modules... it's kind of their thing. "Lol only scrubs use things intended for their dropsuit" They probably only fit sidearms to their sentinels too To be fair though the cloak is the only module/equipment item specifically intended for use by one single dropsuit. I mean how would a scout like it if Assault got Jump Jets and flew off every time they put one shotgun round into them?
Not exactly right.
A cloak can be used on any suit that can fit it (I've seen logi and assaults use it). That said, an HMG or Forge can only go an heavy or sentinel suits.
I am the Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
2099
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Posted - 2014.11.19 23:59:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:True Adamance wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Scouts receive a bonus to fit cloaking modules... it's kind of their thing. "Lol only scrubs use things intended for their dropsuit" They probably only fit sidearms to their sentinels too To be fair though the cloak is the only module/equipment item specifically intended for use by one single dropsuit. I mean how would a scout like it if Assault got Jump Jets and flew off every time they put one shotgun round into them? Not exactly right. A cloak can be used on any suit that can fit it (I've seen logi and assaults use it). That said, an HMG or Forge can only go an heavy or sentinel suits.
You got 160 CPU lying around on any suit you have?
Because you wanted to be something you're not.
A hero.
Do you feel like one now?
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
17770
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Posted - 2014.11.20 00:04:00 -
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1.6 scouts had a level of pride due to the amount of suffering they went though.
150 hp
perma scanned
no cloaks.
Yet there were still scouts that stabbed their ways through entire masses.
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
6006
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Posted - 2014.11.20 00:10:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:1.6 scouts had a level of pride due to the amount of suffering they went though.
150 hp
perma scanned
no cloaks.
Yet there were still scouts that stabbed their ways through entire masses.
And often died many many deaths...
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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Thokk Nightshade
Montana Militia
700
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Posted - 2014.11.20 00:15:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:We're better than you and we know it.
Do you work for GloboGym?
I hope that is a reference to Dodgeball at least. 
Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
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Mike Ox Bigger
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
472
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Posted - 2014.11.20 00:33:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:1.6 scouts had a level of pride due to the amount of suffering they went though.
150 hp
perma scanned
no cloaks.
Yet there were still scouts that stabbed their ways through entire masses.
Back then most good scouts would go like 30-15. It wasn't very profitable. Running scout was more like showing off. |
LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
861
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Posted - 2014.11.20 00:41:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:1.6 scouts had a level of pride due to the amount of suffering they went though.
150 hp
perma scanned
no cloaks.
Yet there were still scouts that stabbed their ways through entire masses. Back then most good scouts would go like 30-15. It wasn't very profitable. Running scout was more like showing off.
Lol sike.
Even I did better, and I never ran Proto or Galscout, I can guarantee ShottyGoBang, Lightning, musturd, and many others could do better regularly.
Quafe
A question doesn't always have an answer, but a problem does,
So what is DUST? A problem or a question?
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
1117
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Posted - 2014.11.20 00:51:00 -
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Thokk Nightshade wrote:Henchmen21 wrote:We're better than you and we know it. Do you work for GloboGym? I hope that is a reference to Dodgeball at least.
Yes I am glad somebody got it, otherwise I just sound like an ass. 
I do dislike cloaks on scouts but not to that extent.
Your game f'ing sucks, but I'll still play it, damn you! Turns out I wont.
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.11.20 01:03:00 -
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Add 1 teaspoon of annoyance
Add 3 tablespoons of group think
Add 2 tablespoons of adaptability refusal
Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah
*Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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VikingKong iBUN
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
218
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Posted - 2014.11.20 01:06:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Scouts receive a bonus to fit cloaking modules... it's kind of their thing. "Lol only scrubs use things intended for their dropsuit" They probably only fit sidearms to their sentinels too To be fair though the cloak is the only module/equipment item specifically intended for use by one single dropsuit. I mean how would a scout like it if Assault got Jump Jets and flew off every time they put one shotgun round into them?
Jump Jets to fly away from scouts? We need this. |
Mike Ox Bigger
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
473
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Posted - 2014.11.20 01:16:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Mike Ox Bigger wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:1.6 scouts had a level of pride due to the amount of suffering they went though.
150 hp
perma scanned
no cloaks.
Yet there were still scouts that stabbed their ways through entire masses. Back then most good scouts would go like 30-15. It wasn't very profitable. Running scout was more like showing off. Lol sike. Even I did better, and I never ran Proto or Galscout, I can guarantee ShottyGoBang, Lightning, musturd, and many others could do better regularly.
You're talking about some of the best scouts in the game. I said most good scouts not the elite :) I know all those guys were good but scouts were extremely hard mode back in the day. |
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