And this is pretty silly.

Heavies have always held the points and ran defense on points since the beginning of PC. they where built to fulfill that role.

If your going to try and push a point as a logi... versus a well defended point that has assigned players and tactics around it? Yah ofcourse your gonna get negative results. You know this as well as anyone these days in the PC game.

Assault suits will again ofcourse struggle to stand toe to toe with heavy frame suits while trying to make ground towards an enclosed point, But that has always been the dynamics of a PC match... And part of the tactics to Whom you send to assault points and HOW you build your PC team.

We have largely established the pushes through Scouts. Even in the Hayday's of Logi slayers ruling DUST, The Heavy still held the point in PC. Even in the height of Assaults from the launch of Uprising... Heavies still held the point. EVEN when heavies where nerfed into the ground... Heavies still held the point.


By Nerfing the HMG your trying to change what exactly? If the HMG was out performing In Medium range engagements versus a Rifle? Sure nerf that. If the Burst HMG is out performing the shotgun as quick burst kills? Sure nerf that.

But Nerfing the HMG because it performs to well at it's intended role is again the one of the STUPIDEST reasons to nerf anything in this game....

Up until 1.8, well after the enclosure meta the rule of the day was assault/logi.

Sentinels were rare.

It was the simultaneous nerfing of rifles and assigning resistance to sentinels that caused the meta to change.

Snipers were merely annoying because they thought they were more important than they actually were.

So no.

Snipers being removed from the objectives didn't cause sentinel spam. Considering the fact that sentinels could soak sniper fire like champs before recent changes if snipers were that big of a problem rather than a nonstop irritation everyone would have run sentinels before then.

Don't assign importance where there is none.

^^^ gets the problem.

What's the solution?

Make Heavies easier to remove from their enclosed areas?

But how?

IMO, it is somehow making the Assault class a more viable counter. The answer is not in Scouts, which have an imbalance of their own.

Like a lot of QQ on the forum it boils down to "it's not my preferred weapon / playstyle and I'm too lazy to properly counter it".

You are officially the second smartest person on the forum now.

Congratulations.

Slight nade buff should be ******* high on CCP to do list. They are nowhere near what they should be and I think everyone would agree.

I have to blame map design for this. If you have a bunch of maps conducive to close quarters then duh your going to have hmg's and shotguns everywhere.