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Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 305	Posted - 2014.11.12 14:28:00 - [61] - Quote Forget about what I said about passive reps, I had a longer break from the game, and didn't know, that all suits have passive reps now... Dedicated Minmando Masshole with love for Swarmholing...
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1818	Posted - 2014.11.12 14:31:00 - [62] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Dear Players, As I have heard a lot of complaints about the fitting, I would like reiterate the following: We don't want the best of the best min-maxed PC fittings We want Faction Doctrine over utility, while remaining very useful We don't want triple stacking and penalties We don't want ultra ehp stacking We want to expose players to versatility, so as many weapons as possible We also asked the community, the CPM collected a variety of ideas from Logis/Scouts and we took a lot of ideas from the Faction fitting thread. Please read it carefully, and again if you skimmed. This is all explained in detail in the blog. http://dust514.com/news/2014/11/introducing-apex-series-bpo-dropsuits/ The reason we didn't push them all out at once, was testing and also to be able to collect feedback on the way. Please comment on the fittings found here: APEX Fittings With the "name" of the suit (serpent, etc), the gear and the proposed replacement gear. Thanks! so about the apex having standard mods/equipment you do know that the logi suit is useless as standard logi type equipment is terrible right? its why i run adv equipment on standard suit. [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game RUST415 1485	Posted - 2014.11.12 14:32:00 - [63] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Minmitar scout either needs ZN-28's or the STD NK's need a buff, cause they are TERRIBLE. As a Minja ... I would have to disagree Basic NK wreck other basic suits and all MTL fits... even poor skilled heavies are not impossible kills I think you are too used to having an easy kill via the higher DMG of better tiers... They should not get adv gear, and basic NK can kill at their own level just not far above it
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2830	Posted - 2014.11.12 14:35:00 - [64] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Minmitar scout either needs ZN-28's or the STD NK's need a buff, cause they are TERRIBLE. The fits themselves aren't meant to be highly competitive. That said, normal nova knives may need a bug still. Yeah, if you've ever tried using them, they suck. They are terrible. Id rather have an MLT flay lock with no splash. "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2830	Posted - 2014.11.12 14:36:00 - [65] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Minmitar scout either needs ZN-28's or the STD NK's need a buff, cause they are TERRIBLE. As a Minja ... I would have to disagree Basic NK wreck other basic suits and all MTL fits... even poor skilled heavies are not impossible kills I think you are too used to having an easy kill via the higher DMG of better tiers... They should not get adv gear, and basic NK can kill at their own level just not far above it And a basic SMG or basic SG can kill anything, proto or not... "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game RUST415 1486	Posted - 2014.11.12 14:43:00 - [66] - Quote I run them.. I got tired of cleaning MLT blood stains off my knives so I use basic NK in some pub fits So I am aware they are crappy, but have killing power, just require you to choose targets more carefully I have bashed sentinels with bsc NK it's more like a brawl than a back-stab lol I will agree with you on that though.. Most basic sidearms have good stopping power, except the NK But tbh I can't think of how to change that without leaving OP bsc knives....
XxGhazbaranxX Endless Hatred 1851	Posted - 2014.11.12 14:43:00 - [67] - Quote Most of these fits are fine and dandy but the truth is, unless we can switch fittings out, its worthless to buy these suits at such an expensive range. Newberries wont buy them and you are reducing potential revenue from people who would use the suits if they were permitted to change the layout with other standard gear. Plasma Cannon Advocate [SUPPORT BREACH SHTGUN CHANGES][2]
Pushing Charlie Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 398	Posted - 2014.11.12 14:49:00 - [68] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Cat Merc wrote: >Opens Spartan >Sees 370 armor >Gallente Assault >Laughs uncontrollably Even cats need stay on topic, save the sarcasm for twitter pls Don't think that was sarcasm. It's a laughable fit. Or were you looking for only positive feedback? Skips over mine as well to comment on cat laughing, he doesn't want positive or creative feedback. What did you want him to say? "Well done, here's a gold star"? Knight Soiaire I BELIEVE!
Pushing Charlie Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 398	Posted - 2014.11.12 14:53:00 - [69] - Quote Replace basic Knives with SMG, or give the option to change out weapons to different faction variants where available. Knight Soiaire I BELIEVE!
shaman oga The Dunwich Horror 3117	Posted - 2014.11.12 15:00:00 - [70] - Quote On Serpent gal scout, isn't the 3rd dampener almost useless due to penalties? Also flux nades are more gallente style, even if your weapon is anti shield. Join channel: FW Kickstarter More people in = more FW matches

maluble Art.of.Death VP Gaming Alliance 155	Posted - 2014.11.12 15:07:00 - [71] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: Tiger Get rid of a damp, replace with codebreaker No keep damp get rid of 2 shield extenders for percision enhancers and swap locus nade for flux.
Kierkegaard Soren THE HANDS OF DEATH RUST415 542	Posted - 2014.11.12 15:08:00 - [72] - Quote I'm sorry, but the current meta of this game is either min-max or die. Perhaps with the upcoming EWAR changes well see a shift to utility mods in fits as they become viable and/or necessary, but until the a suit that costs that much to obtain needs to be able to get the job done and remain competitive. Dedicated Commando. "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." -Paul Atreides.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property 13639	Posted - 2014.11.12 15:11:00 - [73] - Quote Minmatar 'Renegade' Commando Well for starters, the Swarm Launcher should be removed. Not trying to be inflammatory, but a STD Swarm Launcher won't due much without 2 Damage Modifiers or Proficency, making it useless to new players. Personally, I think the fit should be: LW1: Republic Combat Rifle LW2: Republic Mass Driver H1: Republic Basic Shield Extender H2: Republic Basic Shield Rechaeger L1: Basic Armor Repairer L2: Basic Kinetic Catalyzer E1: Nanohive --- This fitting is much better in terms of practicality and versatility as it can perform close and mid-ranged combat, along with Area Denial. Given how Commandos (or at least the Min) are supposed to be flexible, this fit is optimal. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 562	Posted - 2014.11.12 15:22:00 - [74] - Quote Minmatar Assault should have the Assault Combat Rifle. As the fastest assault suit you want to run in and out of fire spraying bullets. The RE is fine, you usually can't blow up a tank with just 3. There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 4510	Posted - 2014.11.12 15:23:00 - [75] - Quote @Rattati: Arguably the main problem here is that since we don't necessarily know what's going on with ewar it's hard to really comment on some of the modules. For example I would never use a low slot for something other than armor on my Amarr assault but maybe in a month or two that would be terribad, but I simply don't know enough to say. Aero Yassavi wrote: On the Amarr logi swap the nanohive with a rep tool. The Amarr are the most armor heavy race, so wouldn't utility be being able to rep your astute heavy teammates? 1) Seraph Logi: This please ^. My jaw dropped when I saw the Cal logi had a rep tool but the Amarr didn't. Otherwise I think I am pretty happy with the Amarr logi setup for the most part (love the STD AScR). One other thing, on protofits it looked like the suit is listed as having 3 enhancers and no shield extender but maybe it was glitched on my ipad (happens sometimes). 2) As for the Opus Assault, I get you don't want 3 damage mods, which is fine, I completely agree that the 3rd one is pretty low utility. But, as I mentioned in the original FW fittings thread no true Amarr assault user would want to be caught dead using more shield extenders than damage mods so I would say either put a second light damage mod (the penalty for 2 is not so prohibitive) or even a sidearm damage mod. Sidearm is less crucial than if you are using an LR on the assault but still useful when there are a lot of enemies around and heat buildup becomes a problem. (Or, you could always try and make more useful things that go in high slots but that's another issue). 3) SImilarly I think the Dominus sentinel should have a damage mod. I don't really see the utility of a STD shield extender on that suit, it's a drop in the bucket. (The godfather of tactical logistics)
Thaddeus Reynolds Facepunch Security 79	Posted - 2014.11.12 15:53:00 - [76] - Quote 'Seraph' Logi You haven't been looking through my fittings have you? drop the nanohive for a rep tool (unless you want to make it a special version of the repairing nanohives to give keep the emphasis on versatility on the Amarr logi)...considering Amarr's massive Armor buffer, it would make sense for their logi to carry equipment to better support it in-the-field...I would also refit the extender for a damage mod, Amarr don't really dual tank (unless you're one of those peope who shield tanks an auto-cannon punisher for reasons). 'Samurai' While I like the utility that the Swarm launcher provides, I'd agree that unless the caldari suit is getting a bonus to it...stick with the RR or ARR (ARR would be my personal preference in this case) as STD swarms aren't very good...I'd also go with a double damage-mod single extender setup, to better emphasize the current caldari weapon strengths 'Opus' Assault Would like to see double damage mods, single extender...or single recharger...or single precision amp. Scrambler rifle is a weapon that frontloads the majority of its damage (kind of funny considering it is the merc's version of the pulse laser which is opposite of that) so damage mods emphasize that (similar to how they would on the sniper rifle). 'Paladin' Commando ...Looks really good actually...would be better if the laser rifle got a bonus to efficacy against vehicles to give Amarr an AV option (assuming Caldari keeps its swarms...hopefully getting a bonus to their own weapon finally) 'Serpent' and 'Tiger' Please no free REs to go with free LAVs....just please no...think of the children 'Renegade' Commando Swap one of the weapons for a CB rifle...my first inclination is to say the Swarm Launcher...but the AV utility gained from it far outweighs the suppressing power of the Mass Driver...so unless you add efficacy against vehicles to one of the MD variants...I'd say swap the Mass Driver out for a Combat Rifle (Mattari Space side have missiles as a secondary weapons system, so...it works in their racial flavor to keep swarms). Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper. I believe all these roles are support for front line soldiers.
Mister Goo Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 60	Posted - 2014.11.12 16:07:00 - [77] - Quote Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: Started looking through the suits. Overall I like the balance of modules One thing though. The Min Commando has MD an swarms. Thats a difficult combination to work well with especially in FW. Swarms are also not a minmatar weapon so goes against the factional theme. A better setup would be the MD + CR. Make enemies dive for cover when they take fire and then flush them out. Im with you on how difficult the MD and swarm set up is +1 I believe they would be better to switch to CR or ACR but leave the swarms as the Min gets the bonus to explosive weapons and it is an awesome AV set up. Closed Beta Vet Minmatar Logistics I Repair, Revive, and Replenish. Leave the slaying for Assaults and Heavies.
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 1863	Posted - 2014.11.12 16:09:00 - [78] - Quote maluble wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: Tiger Get rid of a damp, replace with codebreaker No keep damp get rid of 2 shield extenders for percision enhancers and swap locus nade for flux. ** precision enhancers on a min suit, are you ******? Delt for CPM2 CPM1 MISSION : FAILED Moss-delt on skype
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 18987	Posted - 2014.11.12 16:40:00 - [79] - Quote I see you have put a Caldari weapon on the Galsent instead of the weapon from our allies. Blasphemy. Any ETA on some information about the EWAR changes? I find the notion of EWAR modules on medframes repulsive at the moment, but until more is said there can't really be feedback. I will comment that the armour on the Galassault seems weak, though. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Currently challenging CCP Rattati for the queef
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 10227	Posted - 2014.11.12 17:00:00 - [80] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: The fits are terrible and you should be ashamed. My current understanding is that the fits are based on the upcoming changes to how suits will be rebalanced for ewar and possibly other things. Therefore there is no point in making apex suits based on the current meta of the game if that meta is going to be changed anyways. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.

Vance Vyth G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 95	Posted - 2014.11.12 17:03:00 - [81] - Quote CCP Rattati please consider removing the swarm launcher off the 'Samurai' commando, and replacing it with a regular RR. (a¦ê+ä-£a¦ê) n++Gö¦pâçGòÉGÇö _ - (a¦Ñ_a¦Ñ) "+60"
shaman oga The Dunwich Horror 3120	Posted - 2014.11.12 17:05:00 - [82] - Quote Sidenote: i would keep AV out of all fits, AV requires specific fits to be effective, with STD modules you are basically wasting a weapon slot. Join channel: FW Kickstarter More people in = more FW matches
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 10227	Posted - 2014.11.12 17:07:00 - [83] - Quote shaman oga wrote: Sidenote: i would keep AV out of all fits, AV requires specific fits to be effective, with STD modules you are basically wasting a weapon slot. What if the meta for the anti vehicle weapons changes so you are not forced into a specific fit? On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Liara Kaiba Shadow Broker Wet Squad 9	Posted - 2014.11.12 17:08:00 - [84] - Quote Gallente Serpent Scout : - extender are no use on a scout, plus natural bonus of Gal Scout is dampening and precision so I would put instead 2 precision enhancer - i would replace 1 dampener by a cardiac regulator (experience) - as a a matter of preference, an ion pistol instead of SMG and an uplink or a scanner instead of remotes. Gallente Chiron Logi : - i would put a second scanner instead of the hive. Gallogi is about scanner plus other Gallente suits already have hives.
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3469	Posted - 2014.11.12 17:10:00 - [85] - Quote shaman oga wrote: Sidenote: i would keep AV out of all fits, AV requires specific fits to be effective, with STD modules you are basically wasting a weapon slot. Nuuuuuu Galmmando with Plasma Cannon is fine. Hotfix Delta Sentinel eHP Calcs
Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 305	Posted - 2014.11.12 17:16:00 - [86] - Quote Thaddeus Reynolds wrote: 'Renegade' Commando Swap one of the weapons for a CB rifle...my first inclination is to say the Swarm Launcher...but the AV utility gained from it far outweighs the suppressing power of the Mass Driver...so unless you add efficacy against vehicles to one of the MD variants...I'd say swap the Mass Driver out for a Combat Rifle (Mattari Space side have missiles as a secondary weapons system, so...it works in their racial flavor to keep swarms). Absolutely not! The commando would be the only suit with the min special weapon, so do not remove the MD - PERIOD!!! The swarm has to be replaced with the CR and it's fine. The swarm is rediculous in basic form without mods, I even would go so far as to say, pull the swarms of the caldari as well. Everybody has a Militia free swarm he can use to try it out! Cheers Dedicated Minmando Masshole with love for Swarmholing...
Foehammerr OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 105	Posted - 2014.11.12 17:22:00 - [87] - Quote My issue is this: CCP Rattati wrote: We want Faction Doctrine over utility, while remaining very useful You say this, while screwing over the Gallentean dropsuits. Both the Serpent and Atlas suits have Matari SMGs when they should have Ion Pistols. Before anyone says anything, ion pistols are useful. Its my goto side arm and youll get tge aame reaponse from anyone who actually spent the time to master it. Also It's not like you have a problem with putting pistols on a sentinel suit either because the Amarr has a scrambler pistol. Even a magsec would make more sense on the Gallentean suits as its part of Federation doctrine. My second grievance is the fact that the Centurion commando has a burst assault rifle even though the spreadsheet says breach. Not only was this misleading, but the fact that the Burst Assault Rifle is the #1 worst rifle kills the entire fitting. I could live with it having a poorly fitted low slot section, but in combination with the burst ar results in a suit that is big, slow, bright and shiny, can't tank anything at all, and can't dish out any good damage. Also, I tried the spartan assault fitting at prototype, and I'm not impressed at all. I don't know where you're going with the whole ewar thing for assaults but it better be good. So far it feels like a badly wasted low slot. Either way it goes, I'd still take an extra repair mod over a damp every day of the week and twice on Sunday *Rangers Lead The Way!* Beta Vet since 2/5/2013
shaman oga The Dunwich Horror 3121	Posted - 2014.11.12 17:27:00 - [88] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: shaman oga wrote: Sidenote: i would keep AV out of all fits, AV requires specific fits to be effective, with STD modules you are basically wasting a weapon slot. What if the meta for the anti vehicle weapons changes so you are not forced into a specific fit? Too many meta have to change (EW is enough), AV is based on massive damage and mobility, i would keep those apex fit for AI, there is no need to do two different jobs in a bad way, when you can make only one job in a good way. Pokey Dravon wrote: Nuuuuuu Galmmando with Plasma Cannon is fine. PLC is not only AV, i use the same fit on my STD galmando. Join channel: FW Kickstarter More people in = more FW matches
Lazer Fo Cused Shining Flame Amarr Empire 131	Posted - 2014.11.12 17:48:00 - [89] - Quote shaman oga wrote: Sidenote: i would keep AV out of all fits, AV requires specific fits to be effective, with STD modules you are basically wasting a weapon slot. 1. I like a basic FG, cheap and kills things
shaman oga The Dunwich Horror 3124	Posted - 2014.11.12 17:56:00 - [90] - Quote Lazer Fo Cused wrote: shaman oga wrote: Sidenote: i would keep AV out of all fits, AV requires specific fits to be effective, with STD modules you are basically wasting a weapon slot. 1. I like a basic FG, cheap and kills things FG is mainly AV but can be used for AI. I should edit, keep swarm launcher out of the apex equation. Join channel: FW Kickstarter More people in = more FW matches



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