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Meisterjager Jagermeister Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 368	Posted - 2014.10.27 18:15:00 - [1] - Quote Am I reading the Balance Hotfix Spreadsheet correctly? All dropsuits will now have built in armor repair? It looks like some will have reps as good as a Gallente. What happened to Gal being rep king? I think this will have a major effect on the game. It will free up a low slot used by many players for reps on non gal suits. You can expect more armor tanking as result. AKA - StarVenger
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 18492	Posted - 2014.10.27 18:15:00 - [2] - Quote Fear not Gallenteans, you have an entire 0.5 HP/s more than the others! You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. GM Scotsman is my hero.
Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2360	Posted - 2014.10.27 18:22:00 - [3] - Quote Actually, I think you'll see a lot more shield tanking as a result since it will free up a low slot on Cal/ Min suits for Regs, PG/CPU mods, and biotics. Granted there will probably be an increase in armor taking as well, but honestly they'll still need to fit repair mods since the native boosts are lackluster at best, it will only really just improve on current fittings rather than remove repairs all together. Dust is there! I was real! Dear diary, Rattati senpai noticed me today~
Aria Gomes Wirykomi Wolf Pack 638	Posted - 2014.10.27 18:23:00 - [4] - Quote Well that helps Min Scouts a whole bunch.
Kaze Eyrou Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 782	Posted - 2014.10.27 18:27:00 - [5] - Quote Oh no! An Armor Repair or a Reactive Plate is going to be changed to an.... gasp *ARMOR PLATE!!!* The horror! The horror! Closed Beta Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
Meisterjager Jagermeister Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 368	Posted - 2014.10.27 18:28:00 - [6] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Fear not Gallenteans, you have an entire 0.5 HP/s more than the others! Oh joy! AKA - StarVenger
Meisterjager Jagermeister Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 368	Posted - 2014.10.27 18:30:00 - [7] - Quote Kaze Eyrou wrote: Oh no! An Armor Repair or a Reactive Plate is going to be changed to an.... gasp *ARMOR PLATE!!!* Well when a single enhanced plate adds 110 to your ehp, it's a big difference. AKA - StarVenger
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Capital Punishment. 2210	Posted - 2014.10.27 18:32:00 - [8] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Actually, I think you'll see a lot more shield tanking as a result since it will free up a low slot on Cal/ Min suits for Regs, PG/CPU mods, and biotics. Granted there will probably be an increase in armor taking as well, but honestly they'll still need to fit repair mods since the native boosts are lackluster at best, it will only really just improve on current fittings rather than remove repairs all together. Ehh, most Caldari suits I have seen have a bunch of armor as well as shields. Plate and a Compact Nanohive has been enough for me for a while. Don't know if I will go for a regulator or keep with a Plate and just have a slow repair. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
The Master Race Immortal Guides 183	Posted - 2014.10.27 18:49:00 - [9] - Quote Weak... I picked gk for the repair alone despite the weaknesses of the AR man I should have gone ck or mk. So now I am minus a slot... respec! lol!.../tear This is a well needed plus slot for my commando though.. respec! so I can level my commando. The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
Blueprint For Murder Immortal Guides 184	Posted - 2014.10.27 18:49:00 - [10] - Quote Weak... I picked gk for the repair alone despite the weaknesses of the AR man I should have gone ck or mk. So now I am minus a slot... respec! lol!.../tear This is a well needed plus slot for my commando though.. respec! so I can level my commando. The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk

Forlorn Destrier Havok Dynasty 2832	Posted - 2014.10.27 19:42:00 - [11] - Quote Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote: Am I reading the Balance Hotfix Spreadsheet correctly? All dropsuits will now have built in armor repair? It looks like some will have reps as good as a Gallente. What happened to Gal being rep king? I think this will have a major effect on the game. It will free up a low slot used by many players for reps on non gal suits. You can expect more armor tanking as result. Yes. See here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2416263#post2416263 In another thread, they said this was the goal - this will allow a more balanced approach to shield tanking by allowing the low slot to be used for shield mods and not armor mods, thereby allowing assualt suits to have a better role. I am the Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning
Meisterjager Jagermeister Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 368	Posted - 2014.10.27 19:54:00 - [12] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: In another thread, they said this was the goal - this will allow a more balanced approach to shield tanking by allowing the low slot to be used for shield mods and not armor mods, thereby allowing assualt suits to have a better role. But armor mods > shield mods AKA - StarVenger
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13851	Posted - 2014.10.27 20:00:00 - [13] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Fear not Gallenteans, you have an entire 0.5 HP/s more than the others! Well when you are getting a free Standard Armour Repairer.....for doing nothing...... you have no reason to complain. "We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 18496	Posted - 2014.10.27 20:05:00 - [14] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Fear not Gallenteans, you have an entire 0.5 HP/s more than the others! Well when you are getting a free Standard Armour Repairer.....for doing nothing...... you have no reason to complain. We are? 0.5 HP/s is what a standard armour repper gives now? They must have nerfed it! Disgraceful! You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. GM Scotsman is my hero.
RayRay James Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION 583	Posted - 2014.10.27 20:11:00 - [15] - Quote So, let me get this straight. CCP is adding native armor reps to all suits and Gallente's BIG BOUNS and whole reason to exist is going to be .5 HP/Sec? Someone needs to get me some of the stuff they're smoking in Iceland/Shanghai.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13851	Posted - 2014.10.27 20:11:00 - [16] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: True Adamance wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Fear not Gallenteans, you have an entire 0.5 HP/s more than the others! Well when you are getting a free Standard Armour Repairer.....for doing nothing...... you have no reason to complain. We are? 0.5 HP/s is what a standard armour repper gives now? They must have nerfed it! Disgraceful! I've made it clear that I am not a fan of native reps at all..... your assault suits get what? 2.5-3.0 total? (Varying between 1.5-3.0 for the others) That's a small repper right? "We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
postapo wastelander Wasteland Desert Rangers 396	Posted - 2014.10.27 20:14:00 - [17] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Fear not Gallenteans, you have an entire 0.5 HP/s more than the others! If gallenteans have this Mataris should be 1.0 hp/s more "Nanohives, repairs or droplinks, just ask me on field i can tink anything"
Meisterjager Jagermeister Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 368	Posted - 2014.10.27 20:18:00 - [18] - Quote Why are commandos getting more reps than assaults? Another missed opportunity to give assaults an advantage over other suits. AKA - StarVenger
Joel II X Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4091	Posted - 2014.10.27 20:18:00 - [19] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Fear not Gallenteans, you have an entire 0.5 HP/s more than the others! I'm still pretty bothered about that.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 18497	Posted - 2014.10.27 20:23:00 - [20] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Fear not Gallenteans, you have an entire 0.5 HP/s more than the others! I'm still pretty bothered about that. DW, if you convert to Amarr you can have 30 extra armour HP instead. Also a good assault bonus. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. GM Scotsman is my hero.

Chief-Shotty WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 335	Posted - 2014.10.27 20:45:00 - [21] - Quote So im fitting a basic kincat on my standard min assault. (kincat is replacing my usual reactive plate) This will be awesome! People were brick-tanking anyway. If a merc wants to fit nothing but armor plates and completely forgo an armor repair for a compact or some triage hive.....they do it now....they can still do it then.(still need to anyway) The commandos could use them..Im thinking of new ways to fit my min commando now. Speed tanked min commando???? Every-time i see an armor tanked caldari....they're an automatic tryhard/superscrub. This will just showcase how many there who secretly wanted to but didn't want to labeled as such. An obvious scrub is obvious. 8-Time New Eden Mass Driver Champion Min Commando Combat Rifle and Mass Driver = FUN and Tears OMG the Tears!! :)
Doyle Reese OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 518	Posted - 2014.10.27 20:58:00 - [22] - Quote hey at least your suit didn't get a 50% nerf to it's armor reps
Dreis Shadowweaver Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 486	Posted - 2014.10.27 21:02:00 - [23] - Quote I think either all suits should have native armour repairs or no suit should have it. The reason being that atm, it's like the Gallente are getting a free extra low slot, but aren't being penalised in other areas for it, giving them an unfair advantage. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel I've only ever known 1.8... Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3
Forlorn Destrier Havok Dynasty 2833	Posted - 2014.10.27 21:08:00 - [24] - Quote Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: In another thread, they said this was the goal - this will allow a more balanced approach to shield tanking by allowing the low slot to be used for shield mods and not armor mods, thereby allowing assualt suits to have a better role. But armor mods > shield mods Not if you are shield tanking. Freeing up a low slot (the one used for armor repairer by every shield tanker out there that cares about the extra buffer) so that we can use regulators instead is a big thing to make shield tanking more viable. As a shield tanker, I hate giving up that low slow to ensure my armor regens. I am the Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning
Blueprint For Murder Immortal Guides 185	Posted - 2014.10.27 21:09:00 - [25] - Quote Bro we are penalized pick up an AR lol. Other classes have other things though to like ak armor/mk speed/ck shield regain. The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
The Master Race Immortal Guides 186	Posted - 2014.10.27 21:09:00 - [26] - Quote Bro we are penalized pick up an AR lol. Other classes have other things though to like ak armor/mk speed/ck shield regain. This change would increase our deficiency... why ccp why do you hate the gk. so much your racists. The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1847	Posted - 2014.10.27 21:12:00 - [27] - Quote I don't really see how such a small amount of armor repping will make any difference in gameplay.
Meisterjager Jagermeister Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 368	Posted - 2014.10.27 21:13:00 - [28] - Quote Forlorn Destrier wrote: Not if you are shield tanking. Freeing up a low slot (the one used for armor repairer by every shield tanker out there that cares about the extra buffer) so that we can use regulators instead is a big thing to make shield tanking more viable. As a shield tanker, I hate giving up that low slow to ensure my armor regens. Yes, I understand, this is a good point. But what feel may happen, when put into practice an enhanced plate will outperform a shield regulator; faster shield regen wont help if you can't survive the encounter. AKA - StarVenger
Meisterjager Jagermeister Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 368	Posted - 2014.10.27 21:17:00 - [29] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: I don't really see how such a small amount of armor repping will make any difference in gameplay. Suddenly those dropsuits I wouldn't spec because I had to forfeit a low slot for regen (I'm not the best player, I need me some regen) are now looking viable. So it already as affected my game and it hasn't even dropped yet. I'm sure other players, especially the vets, will find all sorts of new fits they hadn't considered before. Take the cal scout for instance..... AKA - StarVenger
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 5064	Posted - 2014.10.27 21:19:00 - [30] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: I don't really see how such a small amount of armor repping will make any difference in gameplay. It might not. Then again, I didn't think the PG reduction on Knives would be that significant either (it was just a 1 PG drop), yet it proved to be hugely significant to my fittings. Sometimes small changes can have big effects. We just won't know until we see it in action. You can always tell a Millford Minja

Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 7078	Posted - 2014.10.27 21:28:00 - [31] - Quote Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote: Forlorn Destrier wrote: In another thread, they said this was the goal - this will allow a more balanced approach to shield tanking by allowing the low slot to be used for shield mods and not armor mods, thereby allowing assualt suits to have a better role. But armor mods > shield mods Not if you run 2x regulators. A fully maxed shield suit is actually pretty incredible at burst tanking. Deal some damage, sit behind cover and you can destroy slow-rep suits easily. My Min Assault runs about 480 shields with pretty insane shield recovery and regen, AND it sprints at 8.77 m/s. Take THAT you stupid Amarr Assaults (Except for your QQ Scramblers >_>) Bullet Hell and Duct-Tape? Count me in! FA recruits get free officer BPO's. Enlist today. Must be a scrub to enter.
Blueprint For Murder Immortal Guides 185	Posted - 2014.10.27 21:34:00 - [32] - Quote I still don't like how gk bonus is now vastly inferior.. it was already a pretty much an ooc (out of combat) bonus. so what are we looking at are rep of .5 more compared to every other suit gaining a slot... jesus and retaining current attribute? 4.5 rep/s? typo? The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
The Master Race Immortal Guides 186	Posted - 2014.10.27 21:34:00 - [33] - Quote I still don't like how gk bonus is now vastly inferior.. it was already a pretty much an ooc (out of combat) bonus. so what are we looking at are rep of .5 more compared to every other suit gaining a slot... jesus and retaining current attribute? 4 rep/s? typo? Edit: There must be some info that we don't have that counter balances this. The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
postapo wastelander Wasteland Desert Rangers 398	Posted - 2014.10.27 21:43:00 - [34] - Quote Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: I think either all suits should have native armour repairs or no suit should have it. The reason being that atm, it's like the Gallente are getting a free extra low slot, but aren't being penalised in other areas for it, giving them an unfair advantage. And i will be useless like logi "Nanohives, repairs or droplinks, just ask me on field i can tink anything"
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 18500	Posted - 2014.10.27 22:04:00 - [35] - Quote Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: I think either all suits should have native armour repairs or no suit should have it. The reason being that atm, it's like the Gallente are getting a free extra low slot, but aren't being penalised in other areas for it, giving them an unfair advantage. All the races have an advantage in some way. The Amarr get extra armour and stamina. The Caldari get extra shield regen and reduced regen delays. The Minmatar get extra speed and extra stamina regen. The Gallente previously got a small innate armour repair of 1-3 HP/s (although any repair fitted dropsuit will quickly render that negligible as 2 HP/s in 30 HP/s is practically irrelevant). Now, the Gallente advantage is 0.5 HP/s. All of the other races trump this bonus hugely. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. GM Scotsman is my hero.
Meisterjager Jagermeister Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 368	Posted - 2014.10.27 22:08:00 - [36] - Quote ^ This AKA - StarVenger
Blueprint For Murder Immortal Guides 185	Posted - 2014.10.27 22:11:00 - [37] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: I think either all suits should have native armour repairs or no suit should have it. The reason being that atm, it's like the Gallente are getting a free extra low slot, but aren't being penalised in other areas for it, giving them an unfair advantage. All the races have an advantage in some way. The Amarr get extra armour and stamina. The Caldari get extra shield regen and reduced regen delays. The Minmatar get extra speed and extra stamina regen. The Gallente previously got a small innate armour repair of 1-3 HP/s (although any repair fitted dropsuit will quickly render that negligible as 2 HP/s in 30 HP/s is practically irrelevant). Now, the Gallente advantage is 0.5 HP/s. All of the other races trump this bonus hugely. And our assault have enate range limitations.... I think I am having a heart attack lol The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
The Master Race Immortal Guides 186	Posted - 2014.10.27 22:11:00 - [38] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: I think either all suits should have native armour repairs or no suit should have it. The reason being that atm, it's like the Gallente are getting a free extra low slot, but aren't being penalised in other areas for it, giving them an unfair advantage. All the races have an advantage in some way. The Amarr get extra armour and stamina. The Caldari get extra shield regen and reduced regen delays. The Minmatar get extra speed and extra stamina regen. The Gallente previously got a small innate armour repair of 1-3 HP/s (although any repair fitted dropsuit will quickly render that negligible as 2 HP/s in 30 HP/s is practically irrelevant). Now, the Gallente advantage is 0.5 HP/s. All of the other races trump this bonus hugely. And our assault have enate range limitations.... I think I am having a heart attack lol The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 13859	Posted - 2014.10.27 22:12:00 - [39] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: I think either all suits should have native armour repairs or no suit should have it. The reason being that atm, it's like the Gallente are getting a free extra low slot, but aren't being penalised in other areas for it, giving them an unfair advantage. All the races have an advantage in some way. The Amarr get extra armour and stamina. The Caldari get extra shield regen and reduced regen delays. The Minmatar get extra speed and extra stamina regen. The Gallente previously got a small innate armour repair of 1-3 HP/s (although any repair fitted dropsuit will quickly render that negligible as 2 HP/s in 30 HP/s is practically irrelevant). Now, the Gallente advantage is 0.5 HP/s. All of the other races trump this bonus hugely. Personally I am all for you Gallente being the Rep kings. In my mind that's great but your bonus, should significantly impact your selection of modules, increasing your rep rates more and more as you stack reppers while minimising stacking penalties. IMO if these passive reps are to occur they should only rep to the suits unmodified base armour value. E.G- Gallente 275 (343 with skills) Caldari 155 (1194 with skills) Amarr 315 (394 with skills) Minmatar 190 (237 with skills) Then cap off. This gives the Shield suits the greatest benefits of the native reps as is CCP Rattati's intention but does not make armour suits significantly better, only receiving (or boosting if you will) to increase repairs until their drop suits armour values have repaired. Further more it does not deviate from established armour mechanics any more than necessary. "We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 18501	Posted - 2014.10.27 22:13:00 - [40] - Quote Blueprint For Murder wrote: And our assault have enate range limitations already. Alternatively you could bypass this issue entirely by using a rail rifle. It's not like the Galassault bonus makes the AR worth using over it. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. GM Scotsman is my hero.

Blueprint For Murder Immortal Guides 185	Posted - 2014.10.27 22:14:00 - [41] - Quote I have play with the synergy I am ocd like that. CCP you could have at least lubed the nerfbat after you beat us down with it. The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
The Master Race Immortal Guides 186	Posted - 2014.10.27 22:14:00 - [42] - Quote I have play with the synergy I am ocd like that. CCP you could have at least lubed the nerfbat after you beat us down with it. The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5114	Posted - 2014.10.27 22:34:00 - [43] - Quote Vulpes Dolosus wrote: Actually, I think you'll see a lot more shield tanking as a result since it will free up a low slot on Cal/ Min suits for Regs, PG/CPU mods, and biotics. Granted there will probably be an increase in armor taking as well, but honestly they'll still need to fit repair mods since the native boosts are lackluster at best, it will only really just improve on current fittings rather than remove repairs all together. I would most certainly utilize more regulators if given some passive armor repair. I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 132	Posted - 2014.10.27 22:47:00 - [44] - Quote The native rep they'll give to everybody won't change anything about our current fittings.. Why do you even cry? Do you really think I'll stop using a 9.38HP/s armor rep because I have a 2hp/s native one? No, it will just give a very (very very) small buff to suits, but wont change the way we build them. Sorry for my bad english.
Nestil Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 153	Posted - 2014.10.27 22:50:00 - [45] - Quote wohooo looks like they're nerfing the gal scouts passive armor regen by half...hope it's some kind of typo. :/
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 18510	Posted - 2014.10.27 23:00:00 - [46] - Quote Nestil wrote: wohooo looks like they're nerfing the gal scouts passive armor regen by half...hope it's some kind of typo. :/ Not a typo. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. GM Scotsman is my hero.
Henrietta Unknown Nox Lupos 420	Posted - 2014.10.27 23:37:00 - [47] - Quote I do just fine in a Gallente Assault G-1. Similar to the OP Gal Scout, but you know, is actually made for assaulting? BTW, AR is still beastly. Why not a buff to the other races. I know that the Cal Sentinel could use an innate repper so it can still employ a regulator effectively. Give the Magsex some love.
Ace Boone Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 301	Posted - 2014.10.27 23:45:00 - [48] - Quote This has literally saved Min Scouts. erhmagawd Only loyal to the republic.

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 9352	Posted - 2014.10.28 00:03:00 - [49] - Quote We may add more reps to Gallente next time around, no worries "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

sabre prime Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 682	Posted - 2014.10.28 00:09:00 - [50] - Quote I don't like this turn of events at all. What does this actually achieve; just make TTK a fraction longer? It's just not cricket. The slow blade penetrates the shield.

Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club 5640	Posted - 2014.10.28 00:17:00 - [51] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: We may add more reps to Gallente next time around, no worries How about lower the reps of the other 3. EVE 21 Day Trial Selling Templar BPO's
Vell0cet Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION 2426	Posted - 2014.10.28 00:49:00 - [52] - Quote sabre prime wrote: I don't like this turn of events at all. What does this actually achieve; just make TTK a fraction longer? It's just not cricket. The main advantage is that it frees up suits for more creative fits, especially on the low end, and on shield suits, with limited low slots. Best PvE idea ever!
zzZaXxx Vengeance Unbound 613	Posted - 2014.10.28 01:00:00 - [53] - Quote 1 is a lot more than 0.
Blueprint For Murder Immortal Guides 186	Posted - 2014.10.28 02:10:00 - [54] - Quote sabre prime wrote: I don't like this turn of events at all. What does this actually achieve; just make TTK a fraction longer? It's just not cricket. I think it is to increase up time of all the suits, but specifically commando and reduce everyone's abuse of supply stations. Is there a fix for supply stations in the mix or in the future?... lets hope. The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
The Master Race Immortal Guides 186	Posted - 2014.10.28 02:10:00 - [55] - Quote sabre prime wrote: I don't like this turn of events at all. What does this actually achieve; just make TTK a fraction longer? It's just not cricket. I think it is to increase up time of all the suits, but specifically commando and reduce everyone's abuse of supply stations. Is there a fix for supply stations in the mix or in the future?... lets hope. The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
howard sanchez 984	Posted - 2014.10.28 02:19:00 - [56] - Quote sabre prime wrote: I don't like this turn of events at all. What does this actually achieve; just make TTK a fraction longer? It's just not cricket. Honestly it changes a lot - it could break up the fitting meta in a lot of ways. Because the change isn't just a buff or nerf but will have an impact on what modules are needed it could make many alterations viable than we see today. Change is good. Get ahead of the new curve. Show off your Quafe
The Master Race Immortal Guides 186	Posted - 2014.10.28 05:56:00 - [57] - Quote Are there complete notes anywhere? The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
Blueprint For Murder Immortal Guides 186	Posted - 2014.10.28 05:56:00 - [58] - Quote Are there complete notes anywhere? The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
Son-Of A-Gun Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1352	Posted - 2014.10.28 07:15:00 - [59] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: We may add more reps to Gallente next time around, no worries Does that ("next time around") mean that we would have to wait until the next balancing pass, after this one, in order to get the buff to the Gal rep rate? Or will this buff be happening during this balancing pass? If the later, then I am ok with the changes. If the former, I am extremely upset, and feel like grabbing who ever thought that this was a good idea by the shoulders, shaking them violently, then screaming, "for god's sake man snap out of it", in their face. This is bad mojo more really bad. Your about to make ever suit I have nothing but a mediocre piece of crap. {:)}{3GÇó>
Meisterjager Jagermeister Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 377	Posted - 2014.10.29 14:46:00 - [60] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: We will add more reps to Gallente next time around, no worries Fixed that for you. AKA - StarVenger

Commander Noctus Gallente Loyalist 92	Posted - 2014.10.29 15:07:00 - [61] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: We may add more reps to Gallente next time around, no worries Yes, please consider doing so. All suits do need some sort of armor reps, so don't remove their reps. But as the race that is best at repping, Gallente should have just a liiiittle bit more. Gallente User since Jan. 28th, 2013. Touched on every Gallente role since.
Jack McReady Dust University Ivy League 1543	Posted - 2014.10.29 15:15:00 - [62] - Quote wont make any difference at all. if you want to wait ages to regain your armor, well go for it. dont be bad and fit some repairs, or carry a triage hive.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 1314	Posted - 2014.10.29 15:40:00 - [63] - Quote postapo wastelander wrote: Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: I think either all suits should have native armour repairs or no suit should have it. The reason being that atm, it's like the Gallente are getting a free extra low slot, but aren't being penalised in other areas for it, giving them an unfair advantage. And i will be useless like logi How ? There are always things that Logi's can do like scan giving intel , laying hives for support , reaping because now it won't be so hard and locked on each individual and this will help cover your flank and get the troops back into the fight faster ... I don't think that Logi's will suffer , if anything this gives them more " wiggle room " . Don't forget those precious spawns . Thank you Rattati , the DEV crew and the CPM for getting the job of 1.9 done .
Blueprint For Murder Immortal Guides 193	Posted - 2014.10.29 15:42:00 - [64] - Quote 4.5hp a second assault 5.5 hps commando? The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
The Master Race Immortal Guides 193	Posted - 2014.10.29 15:42:00 - [65] - Quote 4.5hp a second assault 5.5 hps commando? The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 1314	Posted - 2014.10.29 15:43:00 - [66] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: sabre prime wrote: I don't like this turn of events at all. What does this actually achieve; just make TTK a fraction longer? It's just not cricket. The main advantage is that it frees up suits for more creative fits, especially on the low end, and on shield suits, with limited low slots. And that was one of my biggest complaints . Change the Caldari Sentinel shield resistance bonuses to laser and projectile and I would begin to think that CCP liked me . Thank you Rattati , the DEV crew and the CPM for getting the job of 1.9 done .
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 1314	Posted - 2014.10.29 15:48:00 - [67] - Quote Henrietta Unknown wrote: I know that the Cal Sentinel could use an innate repper so it can still employ a regulator effectively. But you had so many that were against that and I just didn't understand that one at all . I like competition and if all suits are viable , that makes for a better game with great combat . Now no one can complain about dying easily , if you get killed now .. you just got bested and nothing more , can't blame lack luster suits ( well I can still complain about Cal Sent bonuses , it should be laser and projectile ) or OP weapons anymore . This game is going to be great and I can't wait to see those numbers climb . It's bound to happen . Thank you Rattati , the DEV crew and the CPM for getting the job of 1.9 done .
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1874	Posted - 2014.10.29 15:52:00 - [68] - Quote Armor repping from 0.5 to 3 hp/s? I guess the armor reps are nice, but they are at such a slow rate that I doubt they will have any substantive effect on gameplay...other than reactive plate sales will likely take a dip resulting in even more armor stacked on the battlefield and further contributing to armor tanking's apparent dominance.
Meisterjager Jagermeister Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 381	Posted - 2014.10.29 16:07:00 - [69] - Quote Actually, I've replaced some reps with reactives. I get roughly the same reps as before and now a little boost to armor. AKA - StarVenger
gauntlet44 LbowDeep Heaven84 Devils General Tso's Alliance 163	Posted - 2014.10.29 16:59:00 - [70] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: I think either all suits should have native armour repairs or no suit should have it. The reason being that atm, it's like the Gallente are getting a free extra low slot, but aren't being penalised in other areas for it, giving them an unfair advantage. All the races have an advantage in some way. The Amarr get extra armour and stamina. The Caldari get extra shield regen and reduced regen delays. The Minmatar get extra speed and extra stamina regen. The Gallente previously got a small innate armour repair of 1-3 HP/s (although any repair fitted dropsuit will quickly render that negligible as 2 HP/s in 30 HP/s is practically irrelevant). Now, the Gallente advantage is 0.5 HP/s. All of the other races trump this bonus hugely. dont they have that ewar bonus too also play as strangeland stranger, larlac theest, gauntlett5487, and balacs sixkin

Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 4777	Posted - 2014.10.29 17:34:00 - [71] - Quote Native suit reps will be useless on a suite stacking Plate, as they will not rep fast enough, so you will likely only see Shield suits dropping the Armor Repair mod. It makes Shield Regulators a lot more viable, and Kin Cats. Not to mention the Standard Caldari SentinelGÇª which has NO LOW SLOT! This was very much needed for Cal Sent. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 4777	Posted - 2014.10.29 17:39:00 - [72] - Quote Blueprint For Murder wrote: Weak... I picked gk for the repair alone despite the weaknesses of the AR man I should have gone ck or mk. So now I am minus a slot... respec! lol!.../tear This is a well needed plus slot for my commando though.. respec! so I can level my commando. With 1.9 you can pay AUR to respecGÇª or you can wait a month for them to add more native armor repair to the Gallente suits. CCP is going to make a lot of money off the overly excitable Chicken Little types. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 4777	Posted - 2014.10.29 17:43:00 - [73] - Quote Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote: Why are commandos getting more reps than assaults? Another missed opportunity to give assaults an advantage over commandos. Commandos have more native armor hit points than Assaults. If they had the same rep rate the Commandos would take longer to get back to full health. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Cyzad4 Blackfish Corp. 437	Posted - 2014.10.29 17:53:00 - [74] - Quote Wow with the new rep tweaks and awesome assault bonus we Gal are going to be unstoppable... ... ... wait... ...**** Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.
Meisterjager Jagermeister Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 382	Posted - 2014.10.29 18:15:00 - [75] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote: Why are commandos getting more reps than assaults? Another missed opportunity to give assaults an advantage over commandos. Commandos have more native armor hit points than Assaults. If they had the same rep rate the Commandos would take longer to get back to full health. The way I see it, commandos had no reps before (save Galcom) so whatever reps they have now, even if they swapped rates with assaults, it's a bonus. Commandos get the damage boost, assaults get the reps. Assaults need it more as they have less ehp and weaker skill bonuses.....unless Mr Rattati has something up his sleeve. AKA - StarVenger
Blueprint For Murder Immortal Guides 193	Posted - 2014.10.29 18:24:00 - [76] - Quote assaults also have speed and smaller hb though. The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
Bradric Banewolf D3ATH CARD RUST415 431	Posted - 2014.10.29 21:43:00 - [77] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: We may add more reps to Gallente next time around, no worries Need that asap! "Anybody order chaos?"
Aeon Amadi Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 6822	Posted - 2014.10.29 21:53:00 - [78] - Quote Just spit-balling an idea while the next match loads up. How's about a 0.5 armor repair per second for each level of Dropsuit Upgrades? I mean, it's a useless skill that has absolutely no bonus right now and it wouldn't directly interfere with the Gallente's rep-king potential. If anything, it'd be an SP sink as well, even though it's very small. Important Links: An Argument for Legion Transparency
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 153	Posted - 2014.10.29 22:09:00 - [79] - Quote Being a cal who rarely plates, I LOVE the native reps. How many times have I had 63 of my 200 armor remaining and watched a rep tool run by stuck to a full heavy with no fire on him... Too **** many... Thanks CCP "Tossin uplinks and runnin fer my life" ~ Gunny blownapart "Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever


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