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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
7078
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Posted - 2014.10.27 21:28:00 -
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Meisterjager Jagermeister wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:In another thread, they said this was the goal - this will allow a more balanced approach to shield tanking by allowing the low slot to be used for shield mods and not armor mods, thereby allowing assualt suits to have a better role. But armor mods > shield mods
Not if you run 2x regulators.
A fully maxed shield suit is actually pretty incredible at burst tanking. Deal some damage, sit behind cover and you can destroy slow-rep suits easily.
My Min Assault runs about 480 shields with pretty insane shield recovery and regen, AND it sprints at 8.77 m/s.
Take THAT you stupid Amarr Assaults (Except for your QQ Scramblers >_>)
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Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
185
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Posted - 2014.10.27 21:34:00 -
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I still don't like how gk bonus is now vastly inferior.. it was already a pretty much an ooc (out of combat) bonus. so what are we looking at are rep of .5 more compared to every other suit gaining a slot... jesus and retaining current attribute? 4.5 rep/s? typo?
The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
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The Master Race
Immortal Guides
186
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Posted - 2014.10.27 21:34:00 -
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I still don't like how gk bonus is now vastly inferior.. it was already a pretty much an ooc (out of combat) bonus. so what are we looking at are rep of .5 more compared to every other suit gaining a slot... jesus and retaining current attribute? 4 rep/s? typo?
Edit: There must be some info that we don't have that counter balances this.
The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
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postapo wastelander
Wasteland Desert Rangers
398
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Posted - 2014.10.27 21:43:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:I think either all suits should have native armour repairs or no suit should have it. The reason being that atm, it's like the Gallente are getting a free extra low slot, but aren't being penalised in other areas for it, giving them an unfair advantage.
And i will be useless like logi 
"Nanohives, repairs or droplinks, just ask me on field i can tink anything"
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
18500
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Posted - 2014.10.27 22:04:00 -
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Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:I think either all suits should have native armour repairs or no suit should have it. The reason being that atm, it's like the Gallente are getting a free extra low slot, but aren't being penalised in other areas for it, giving them an unfair advantage.
All the races have an advantage in some way.
The Amarr get extra armour and stamina.
The Caldari get extra shield regen and reduced regen delays.
The Minmatar get extra speed and extra stamina regen.
The Gallente previously got a small innate armour repair of 1-3 HP/s (although any repair fitted dropsuit will quickly render that negligible as 2 HP/s in 30 HP/s is practically irrelevant).
Now, the Gallente advantage is 0.5 HP/s.
All of the other races trump this bonus hugely.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Meisterjager Jagermeister
Red and Silver Hand
Amarr Empire
368
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Posted - 2014.10.27 22:08:00 -
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^ This
AKA - StarVenger
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Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
185
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Posted - 2014.10.27 22:11:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:I think either all suits should have native armour repairs or no suit should have it. The reason being that atm, it's like the Gallente are getting a free extra low slot, but aren't being penalised in other areas for it, giving them an unfair advantage. All the races have an advantage in some way. The Amarr get extra armour and stamina. The Caldari get extra shield regen and reduced regen delays. The Minmatar get extra speed and extra stamina regen. The Gallente previously got a small innate armour repair of 1-3 HP/s (although any repair fitted dropsuit will quickly render that negligible as 2 HP/s in 30 HP/s is practically irrelevant). Now, the Gallente advantage is 0.5 HP/s. All of the other races trump this bonus hugely.
And our assault have enate range limitations.... I think I am having a heart attack lol
The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
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The Master Race
Immortal Guides
186
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Posted - 2014.10.27 22:11:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:I think either all suits should have native armour repairs or no suit should have it. The reason being that atm, it's like the Gallente are getting a free extra low slot, but aren't being penalised in other areas for it, giving them an unfair advantage. All the races have an advantage in some way. The Amarr get extra armour and stamina. The Caldari get extra shield regen and reduced regen delays. The Minmatar get extra speed and extra stamina regen. The Gallente previously got a small innate armour repair of 1-3 HP/s (although any repair fitted dropsuit will quickly render that negligible as 2 HP/s in 30 HP/s is practically irrelevant). Now, the Gallente advantage is 0.5 HP/s. All of the other races trump this bonus hugely.
And our assault have enate range limitations.... I think I am having a heart attack lol
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
13859
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Posted - 2014.10.27 22:12:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Dreis Shadowweaver wrote:I think either all suits should have native armour repairs or no suit should have it. The reason being that atm, it's like the Gallente are getting a free extra low slot, but aren't being penalised in other areas for it, giving them an unfair advantage. All the races have an advantage in some way. The Amarr get extra armour and stamina. The Caldari get extra shield regen and reduced regen delays. The Minmatar get extra speed and extra stamina regen. The Gallente previously got a small innate armour repair of 1-3 HP/s (although any repair fitted dropsuit will quickly render that negligible as 2 HP/s in 30 HP/s is practically irrelevant). Now, the Gallente advantage is 0.5 HP/s. All of the other races trump this bonus hugely.
Personally I am all for you Gallente being the Rep kings. In my mind that's great but your bonus, should significantly impact your selection of modules, increasing your rep rates more and more as you stack reppers while minimising stacking penalties.
IMO if these passive reps are to occur they should only rep to the suits unmodified base armour value.
E.G- Gallente 275 (343 with skills)
Caldari 155 (1194 with skills)
Amarr 315 (394 with skills)
Minmatar 190 (237 with skills)
Then cap off. This gives the Shield suits the greatest benefits of the native reps as is CCP Rattati's intention but does not make armour suits significantly better, only receiving (or boosting if you will) to increase repairs until their drop suits armour values have repaired.
Further more it does not deviate from established armour mechanics any more than necessary.
"We were commanded to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocents caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
18501
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Posted - 2014.10.27 22:13:00 -
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Blueprint For Murder wrote:
And our assault have enate range limitations already.
Alternatively you could bypass this issue entirely by using a rail rifle.
It's not like the Galassault bonus makes the AR worth using over it.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
GM Scotsman is my hero.
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Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
185
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Posted - 2014.10.27 22:14:00 -
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I have play with the synergy I am ocd like that.
CCP you could have at least lubed the nerfbat after you beat us down with it.
The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
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The Master Race
Immortal Guides
186
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Posted - 2014.10.27 22:14:00 -
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I have play with the synergy I am ocd like that.
CCP you could have at least lubed the nerfbat after you beat us down with it.
The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
5114
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Posted - 2014.10.27 22:34:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Actually, I think you'll see a lot more shield tanking as a result since it will free up a low slot on Cal/ Min suits for Regs, PG/CPU mods, and biotics.
Granted there will probably be an increase in armor taking as well, but honestly they'll still need to fit repair mods since the native boosts are lackluster at best, it will only really just improve on current fittings rather than remove repairs all together.
I would most certainly utilize more regulators if given some passive armor repair.
I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
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Sequal Rise
Les Desanusseurs
132
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Posted - 2014.10.27 22:47:00 -
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The native rep they'll give to everybody won't change anything about our current fittings.. Why do you even cry?
Do you really think I'll stop using a 9.38HP/s armor rep because I have a 2hp/s native one? No, it will just give a very (very very) small buff to suits, but wont change the way we build them.
Sorry for my bad english.
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Nestil
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
153
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Posted - 2014.10.27 22:50:00 -
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wohooo looks like they're nerfing the gal scouts passive armor regen by half...hope it's some kind of typo. :/ |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
18510
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Posted - 2014.10.27 23:00:00 -
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Nestil wrote:wohooo looks like they're nerfing the gal scouts passive armor regen by half...hope it's some kind of typo. :/
Not a typo.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
GM Scotsman is my hero.
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Henrietta Unknown
Nox Lupos
420
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Posted - 2014.10.27 23:37:00 -
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I do just fine in a Gallente Assault G-1. Similar to the OP Gal Scout, but you know, is actually made for assaulting?
BTW, AR is still beastly.
Why not a buff to the other races. I know that the Cal Sentinel could use an innate repper so it can still employ a regulator effectively. 
Give the Magsex some love.
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Ace Boone
Capital Acquisitions LLC
General Tso's Alliance
301
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Posted - 2014.10.27 23:45:00 -
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This has literally saved Min Scouts. erhmagawd
Only loyal to the republic.
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
9352
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Posted - 2014.10.28 00:03:00 -
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We may add more reps to Gallente next time around, no worries
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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sabre prime
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
682
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Posted - 2014.10.28 00:09:00 -
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I don't like this turn of events at all. What does this actually achieve; just make TTK a fraction longer?
It's just not cricket.
The slow blade penetrates the shield.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Gentlemen's.Club
5640
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Posted - 2014.10.28 00:17:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:We may add more reps to Gallente next time around, no worries
How about lower the reps of the other 3.
EVE 21 Day Trial
Selling Templar BPO's
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Vell0cet
Vengeance Unbound
RISE of LEGION
2426
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Posted - 2014.10.28 00:49:00 -
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sabre prime wrote:I don't like this turn of events at all. What does this actually achieve; just make TTK a fraction longer?
It's just not cricket.
The main advantage is that it frees up suits for more creative fits, especially on the low end, and on shield suits, with limited low slots.
Best PvE idea ever!
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zzZaXxx
Vengeance Unbound
613
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Posted - 2014.10.28 01:00:00 -
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1 is a lot more than 0. |
Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
186
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Posted - 2014.10.28 02:10:00 -
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sabre prime wrote:I don't like this turn of events at all. What does this actually achieve; just make TTK a fraction longer?
It's just not cricket.
I think it is to increase up time of all the suits, but specifically commando and reduce everyone's abuse of supply stations. Is there a fix for supply stations in the mix or in the future?... lets hope.
The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
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The Master Race
Immortal Guides
186
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Posted - 2014.10.28 02:10:00 -
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sabre prime wrote:I don't like this turn of events at all. What does this actually achieve; just make TTK a fraction longer?
It's just not cricket.
I think it is to increase up time of all the suits, but specifically commando and reduce everyone's abuse of supply stations. Is there a fix for supply stations in the mix or in the future?... lets hope.
The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
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howard sanchez
984
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Posted - 2014.10.28 02:19:00 -
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sabre prime wrote:I don't like this turn of events at all. What does this actually achieve; just make TTK a fraction longer?
It's just not cricket.
Honestly it changes a lot - it could break up the fitting meta in a lot of ways. Because the change isn't just a buff or nerf but will have an impact on what modules are needed it could make many alterations viable than we see today.
Change is good. Get ahead of the new curve.
Show off your Quafe
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The Master Race
Immortal Guides
186
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Posted - 2014.10.28 05:56:00 -
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Are there complete notes anywhere?
The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
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Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
186
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Posted - 2014.10.28 05:56:00 -
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Are there complete notes anywhere?
The miracle food of high-energy plankton gathered from the oceans of the world.Wizard Talk
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Son-Of A-Gun
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
1352
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Posted - 2014.10.28 07:15:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:We may add more reps to Gallente next time around, no worries
Does that ("next time around") mean that we would have to wait until the next balancing pass, after this one, in order to get the buff to the Gal rep rate? Or will this buff be happening during this balancing pass?
If the later, then I am ok with the changes.
If the former, I am extremely upset, and feel like grabbing who ever thought that this was a good idea by the shoulders, shaking them violently, then screaming, "for god's sake man snap out of it", in their face.
This is bad mojo more really bad. Your about to make ever suit I have nothing but a mediocre piece of crap.
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Meisterjager Jagermeister
Red and Silver Hand
Amarr Empire
377
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Posted - 2014.10.29 14:46:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:We will add more reps to Gallente next time around, no worries Fixed that for you.
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